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we can't empty the jails and not hold anybody accountable, and then not have a police budge. then we're in chaos. >> reporter: anderson, chaos is really the word. a lot of people would describe the situation in san francisco as chaos. and they're trying to reduce the number of tents in the short-term. they've made some progress, but still hundreds of tents. they're increasing police foot patrols. as for that walgreens shoplifter, police arrested him again, he hit that same walgreens four days in a row. >> appreciate it. the news continues. let's go to chris for "cuomo prime time." chris? >> it sounds good, let's not just lock up people forever. but you do too much, too fast, you get what is happening there, and you get what is happening
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across the country and in new york city. people being arrested, but they don't stay in jail. i'm chris cuomo. welcome to "prime time." i have more evidence that the party of trump has no shame in their game, and they're lying to you about their belief or their suggestion that january 6th is being overhyped. it was a terror attack on the citadel of our democracy, and the justice department wants you to know that. they're releasing footage that shows exactly what happened. you tell me if this looks like people on a tour, or just like angry patriots, if it looks like nothing compared to what you saw with black lives matter. take a look.
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[ yelling ] >> people died for this! >> i can't, buddy. you have to kill me. >> now, look, let's deal with two obvious things, okay? when a white guy says to a cop, i'm sorry, buddy, you are going to have to kill me if you want me to move, they move. a black guy says the same thing, you would have the party of trump going crazy on you about how serious it is. see how the game is being played? this is the reality. the trump supporters, misguided, lied-to individuals, came there looking to kick ass, and that's what they did. and they wanted to do worse. and the same men and women kept them from doing it. and you would never see the members of that party in congress mitigating, playing down anything like this if it didn't play to their advantage or disadvantage, depending on
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how you look at it. the federal judge who handed out the first sentence to one of the rioters today talked to lawmakers who are trying to rewrite history. the guy is a conservative judge appointment. judge royce lamberth. i don't know what planet they were on, he said. utter nonsense is what he called it. to call these people tourists, walking through the capitol. that's a conservative judge, who hasn't been co-opted by something corrupt in the name of trump. this is the reality. and this is what you need to see. and you need to hold them to account for playing a game. meanwhile, 24 hours after the party of trump tanked the most expansive voting rights bill in generations, saying we won't even debate it, we won't amend it. we have no ideas, because there's nothing to fix. however, there may be progress nonetheless. president biden may be close to
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a legislative victory on infrastructure. breaking tonight, there is agreement, we're told, on a bipartisan deal, according to senators romney and manchin. listen. >> republicans and democrats have come together along with the white house, and we've agreed on a framework, and we're going to be heading to the white house tomorrow. >> is it a done deal? no. but it is getting there, according to a source. the democrats will have problems with the progressive/left/fringe part of their party, okay? this does not have, our understanding is, a lot of what they wanted in terms of taxing the rich, and a lot of the things that they call infrastructure that traditional people would not. but they have an agreement with the white house and ten senators. manchin said it's fully paid-for, and offsets the new
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spending. that's different from having additional revenue from tax increases to have additional spending. this is a brokered deal, it's not what you're used to hearing about. it's not going to be as big. what happens if a deal is not finalized ahead of a two-week senate recess? probably nothing. or will democrats try to go it alone? let's turn to the chair of the senate rules committee, key democrat senator, amy klobuchar, minnesota. good to see you. >> thanks, chris. great to be on, i remember when i put my plan out in the presidential campaign and being on your show, and here we are again. it's important to move on infrastructure, and i'm glad the bipartisan group have been working together and with the white house. and at the same time, remember there's a second effort going on, about human infrastructure, and things like child care, making sure there's adequate funding for housing.
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my view of this, you can do both at once. but we need some general agreement on both to move forward. because they're equally important. and i'm glad they're making progress. >> let's simplify this for the likes of me. >> okay. >> there are two paths here. the democrats, especially the left wing of the party, wanted it all in one. is it your understanding that the deal we're hearing from manchin and romney are really just on one aspect of this, not the child care and the other things? >> i know it doesn't make for good tv, but there's three paths. all in one, just doing the infrastructure they're talking about, but then the third path. allowing the bipartisan effort to go forward, and then having a second package that would use reconciliation. that way we can focus on things like broadband. i lead that bill, i'm so glad they put in significant funding
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for broadband. but also we have a second track going on through reconciliation. to me, that's the third path that makes the most sense. >> so your understanding is that what romney and manchin, let's call it roads and bridges. the wi-fi and infrastructure, which i agree with you -- >> no, the wi-fi is in their package, i believe. >> okay. >> and things like ports and waterways -- >> right. >> it's more traditional infrastructure, including broadband. but there are other things that this nation needs right now. >> that's not subject to -- do you have any reason to believe that the conservative -- on that
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second bill? >> i think they will. that's what we need to negotiate. they've done this once before. and they are open to this. and i think we need to go hand-in-hand here, maybe not dot every "i" and cross every "t," but have some general agreement on the funding. and i think we can do that at the same time. >> we'll see on that. this is a good sign of progress -- let me ask you quickly about the video we had at the top. >> yes. >> what do your brothers and sisters on the right side of the aisle tell you in private, don't give their names, obviously. but how do they justify being quiet or selling the tripe that this is just tourists taking a tour, this is not so bad, and it's being overhyped?
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how do they justify it in private? >> in private, they say things that are very similar to what they said that night. that this was an invasion of the capitol, an attack, an insurrection. and what bothers me is the necessary things we have to do right now, not all of them are happening. we should have an independent 9/11-style commission. and i'm glad we did our report, focused on changes we need to see to the leadership of the police, to the line officers, get the respect they deserve, and make improvements. secondly, we should be supporting the efforts of the justice department. doing extensive work on the rise of white supremacists, and all of that should be happening. it was ron johnson in my committee hearing that literally said that i was chairing at that
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moment, that literally said, diminished this, said they were just out for fun, going down, quoting someone saying this, where he clearly was sending the message that he didn't take this seriously. anyone that was here, my staff that was in a closet in the capitol with a fork in their hands when they heard the insurrectionists going through the door only yards away from them. the police officers, many of whom you have interviewed, including the officer that was called the n-word multiple times, and turned at the end and said, is this america? ask them what really happened. they'll tell you what happened. this was an all-out attack, and i'm glad the justice department is strongly pursuing the charges. and i know there's more to come. >> how do you get a deal on infrastructure, but you can't get the same hearts and minds on the deal that protects voting rights in this country? >> that's the third one. when you look at our democracy,
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it's the moment when we brushed ourselves off, stood up, and moved forward. part of that is passing the torch on to understand this is also about our elections and our democracy. 22 laws have been passed in states across the country limiting the right to vote since the last election, with more to come. the governor of texas calling for a special session to force those legislators to try to do something which is unconceivable to me, to make it harder to do early voting and hurt people with disabilities from voting. that's what is happening now. that's why when they blocked us from voting on that package, it was one of the saddest moments for or democracy. they wouldn't let us debate it for a week, three days, or a day. they stopped the debate. but for the viewers that care about democracy, democrats, republicans, independent, i'm not giving up. i'm taking the rules committee.
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we're going to have hearing in georgia. maybe that will change some hearts and minds. at the same time, we need to work on changing the filibuster. i would abolish it. i've come to that decision after seeing all of the gridlock and inability to move on the important issues of our time like immigration reform and climate change. we're not giving up. that's the most important thing for people to know. no one should give up on our democracy. >> thank you very much, senator. i appreciate you. >> thanks, chris. more breaking news. one of the world's biggest pop stars is fighting to get her life back. i don't cover entertainment, and you've never heard me say the words britney spears before. but this isn't just some pop star. this is a real legal battle that is going on.
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this conservatorship in her life demands explanation. this is very, very rare what has been done to britney spears. i understand this area of law very well, and in truth, i've never seen anything like this exactly. she's lived under more than a decade of being told what to do by her daddy. forced to perform, drugged against her will, mandatory birth control, kept from having relationships. this is what she says. very disturbing as a matter of law. then we get to the fact that it's britney spears. and wait until you hear what she told the judge. we have her former lawyer, next.
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usually for the mentally disabled or the elderly and disabled. i've never heard of one like this. her father, jamie spears, and others, have controlled her estate since 2008. that's 13 years ago. you will remember, she did suffer a mental health crisis. was there any kind of due process to have her removed of her rights to run her own choices? this was reawaken because of a documentary that shined a light on this, fueling a movie to free britney, quote-unquote. she called her conservatorship abusive. she said she's traumatized, not
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happy, can't sleep because of it. she alleges she was put on lithium against her will. it's about emotional or mood disregulation. it's a very strong drug. she also revealed that she wanted to have another child, and she's right now on a form of contra contraception, and wanted to take it out. but the team won't let her go to the doctor to do so, they don't want her to have more kids, and they don't want her to get married. this is a very interesting legal question. this is about best interests of this individual. this is about whether or not she's been found mentally fit or not. so what is going to happen here, and how did we get here? joining us now, britney spears' former attorney, adam streisand. good to see you. >> thanks. >> to our understanding, was ms.
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spears ever adjudicated mentally ill, or not competent mentally to run her own affairs? >> the proceedings have been closed and sealed, which raises an important question as to why. but i don't think so. as far as we know, she never was adjudicated as being mentally incompetent. and, look, you and i can't decide on this program what, if any, problems britney has. but what we can decide, there's been a terrible miscarriage of justice. she's really been deprived of her rights, in particular because she's never had anyone who has advocated for her. she has a court-appointed lawyer, and you'll remember in a prior hearing, the judge asked, what does britney spears think about this conservatorship? and he said, she's like a
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comatose patient. britney blew that out of the water today. >> is that your understanding as well, that she's had her ups and downs, she's had struggles with mental health. but that she's not some vegetable, not able to think and do for herself? >> it's really fascinating. because when i met with her a couple of times, we spoke on the phone, when she retained me, i thought she was making sound judgments. clearly there were issues. but she understood that she had these issues, that the conservatorship on a temporary basis may come to pass. the one thing she was clear about was that she did not want her father to be in control of her life. and one thing we've seen in leaked court documents and certainly her statements today, this is not somebody where a
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conservatorship is appropriate. >> sometimes with kids, minors, we'll see this, or severely mentally disabled or elderly, past the point of being able to run your own affairs. i can't find an analogue, she will be 40. you hear the rumors, she's not all there. that's not the standard. that takes us to the father. what is your understanding about his good faith in this situation? >> about jamie spears? i think there are real questions about whether he's simply trying to control his daughter for his own profit. he's profiting enormously, as are everyone involved in this, from britney. while britney, by the way, is not even allowed to see what is being filed in court. it's really unprecedented. >> what is the standard necessary for britney spears to
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undo this legal arrangement? >> right. so she's got to show that she's able to manage her affairs or that she can resist undue influence. but the key is, under law, you can't have a conservatorship except as a last resort. if there's any less restricted means of being able to help and protect her, a conservatorship can't stand. and the judge has an independent duty to review that and to terminate it. and certainly her lawyer, when she says to her lawyer, i want this thing over, he can give her advice, but it's go time. you go and you seek to terminate the conservatorship, and in 13 years she's never done that. >> why didn't you do it, and why aren't you still with britney spears? >> i didn't do it because when i showed up in court, the judge refused to allow me to represent her.
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under california law, the law says if she's unable to retain counsel, the court can appoint counsel for her. it's really unclear what that means, unable. is she able to articulate -- >> didn't you say, i've been retained, here's the proof of that? >> yes, and the judge said, i have a medical report that says she is mentally incapable of retaining you. i'm not going to show you that report. but i'm telling you, she's mentally incapable based on the evidence i have. >> but she was not adjudicated as tosuch. this is the judge relying on a single opinion about her. >> exactly. could i have tried to obtain another opinion that cont contradicted the doctor? yes.
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this is a very highly regarded doctor. but let's assume i got another opinion. which opinion do you think the judge would believe? i didn't want to make it about me. if the judge had questions about why i was being involved, who was behind me being involved, okay. appoint a lawyer. i'm not the only lawyer around. but this lawyer has really fallen down on the job. >> adam, thank you very much. i appreciate this. again, it finds its home in a major celebrity's life, but this is a legitimate legal issue. i've never seen anything like it. this is not what a conservatorship is meant for. and it is what our legal system is supposed to be able to distinguish. this is really weird what is happening, and it's worthy of our attention. now, there's another legal case very different, also very
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worthy of attention. a high school cheerleader has just taught us something about this supreme court. she's certainly got a lot to cheer about, though many people may not like how she cheers. she just got the supreme court so to say, yup, she can curse until her face is blue, and you can't do anything about it, high school. i thought it was so conservative. this is a great indication of what conservative means to jurisprudence versus politics. we'll talk to her about what this means, next. in his room. ♪ dad, why didn't you answer your phone? your mother loved this park. ♪
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snapchat to about 250 friends. their middle fingers were raised, and the post was loaded with f-bombs. school officials learned of it, suspended her from cheerleading for a year. it is now four years later. the decision of scotus, 8-1, that the pennsylvania school went too far when it punished her for an off-campus rant. she joins me now. your life as moved on, you're now in college. but this mattered. and when it happened, did you think that it was something that the school could police when you went on snapchat with your friend? >> when all of this first
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happened, i sat in my room after and i thought to myself, how they were able to do that, since i wasn't on school grounds. and not once did i use the school's name specifically in the post. >> now, we know about other things about how culture is evolving in high school. if you were bullying somebody else, schools can be more aggressive about it. but that's not what this was. what did it mean to you, when the supreme court, 8-1, decided, no, you can't go after her for her free speech, whether parents liked it or not, you have a right to say it. what did that mean to you? >> it meant a lot that the supreme court ruled in my favor. and it was, i feel like it wasn't only a win for me, but for 50 million other students. because i was frustrated at the
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time. i was 14 years old. and i expressed my frustration the same way teenagers do today. i feel as if young people need to have the ability to express themselves without worrying or being scared of being punished by the school. >> yup. >> we have a two-step test, right? do you have the legal right to say it, and is what you say right or wrong? when you found out about the decision, did you take to social media and go off on an f-bomb laden rant. >> no. >> good, make your parents happy. counselor, what do you think about the decision? >> the supreme court has never before ruled on school districts' right and authority to punish thing that kids say outside the school.
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they have a lot of authority inside the school, but this is the first ruling from outside the school. and this will impact 50 million students. they rejected a very aggressive ask by the school here that they be given the same power outside of school to regulate what kids say inside the school. and the supreme court in an 8-1 decision said, no way. free speech is much more important. there are other interests at stake. the parents' rights. kids need to have someplace where they can speak freely. and schools need to teach about free speech and model it. >> and people heard this, they thought conservative judges would say, cursing, that's a bad value. you shouldn't do that. that's not how the law works. either you have the right to say it or not. whether people like it or think it's right, a very different
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determination. is there any concern for you about what this could mean going forward? >> so we think it's hugely helpful. and, look, this is not the last word on what the law is going to be about, what young people can say outside of school. it is only the first word, but the supreme court set down a very important marker by saying that when schools regulate what students say outside of school, they have a heavier burden to justify that. and they made a note of saying, if that speech involved political or religious topics, they have a heavy burden to be able to justify that. at the same time, i want to be clear that the supreme court did not foreclose other -- >> right, because there were other people involved, they have
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an action in terms of the people it was delivered to. counselor, thank you very much. i know it's important to the aclu. and brandi, do you want to be a lawyer now? >> no. >> good. >> i feel like it's a lot of work. >> it's an important thing. you're young in life, but now you've had an impact. it's a good instruction, that everybody's life can have meaning. i know you don't want to be known forever as the f-bomb person. but having the right to speak freely in a society matters, even if people don't like it. good luck. counselor, appreciate you. >> thank you. president biden is taking on the fact that crime is up. deadly summer, yes, crime goes up in summer. but is this really about summer? he has a plan to take on a surge in violent crime across the
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the director of the fbi was on the hill today talking about the staggering rate that americans are killing americans. listen. >> i think one of the causes of the violent crime spike are certain kinds of prosecution practices. i think there's nothing more disheartening to a law enforcement officer to see somebody that you worked hard to arrest promptly back out committing a crime again. there's enough people to go after the first time without the same person over and over again. >> he's talking specifically about a law in new york that you will see gathered under the idea of bail reform. so as we examine the surge in murders happening in cities across the country, let's focus
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on the nation's biggest city, and one i know very well. joining me now, terrence mo monahan, thank you for joining me. >> good seeing you, chris. >> as i told you once before, we don't fake the funk on this show. my brother is the governor of new york, he worked with the legislature, the democrats, to get bail reform. and the criticism now is that it went too far. and police are being blamed for not doing their jobs because of the blue lives matter, black lives matter, but cop after cop tells me that's not true. and people are not being kept in jail. how big a reason for the reality is the law? >> 100%, this is what is behind it. it's a combination, it's a law,
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and the court system moving at a snail's pace because of covid. it was not operating quickly. so with bail reform, people locked up with a gun were able to get out under least restrictive bail. it didn't matter if they were dangerous or not, if they had a dangerous past, a judge could not use that to determine whether or not to hold this individual in. i think we're the only state in the union that does not give a judge discretion on dangerousness to keep an individual in. and the court system is already overwhelmed because it wasn't operating during covid. >> how do you balance the two, just to give people some perspective? we had some reporting tonight on san francisco. they're dealing with a similar dynamic, but their judges still have discretion. they've emptied the jails also. there has been a problem with people who can't make bail, they
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languish for months, sometimes longer before getting a court date. that was wrong. the correction is, did the fix go too far? how much of this is pandemic, the court system was backed up, people couldn't be kept on the inside because of worries about contagion? >> absolutely. and those cases are no longer a priority. in new york, we have 4,500 open gun cases right now, 3,600 have been indicted. 85% of those individuals are out on our streets right now. guys caught on the street with a loaded gun. that's how you prevent shootings. you keep people who are willing to carry illegal guns on the street, you make them accountable for what they do. >> now, if the court gets back up to speed, and there's no longer the social distancing standards of putting people back inside, will that fix the problem?
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>> we don't know. we're going to have to see. bail reform took place in january of last year. and three months later, less than that, we were into covid. so we hadn't seen the uptick in violence. actually, we started seeing the uptick in violence right after the protests. you have to add in the animosity towards police, a belief in some neighborhoods that police aren't a true authority, and people are willing to go against that authority. and you start seeing the shootings go up, people arrested with guns coming right back out on the street. if one gang member gets arrested with a gun, and he's right back out, his opposition will say, it's better for me to have a gun because it's more dangerous not to have one. >> assuming he even stays in jail right now. quickly, before i let you go, if you could change one of the
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three tentpoles, the noise about policing, the noise about the pandemic, and how it's slowed down the courts and getting rid of cases, and the law, which would you change? >> i'd change the law. i'd give a judge discretion. let him keep some dangerous individuals behind bars. we know it's a small percentage of people who do the violence. you keep the bad guy in, it sends a message to everybody, hey, there's a consequence for my actions. >> i'm trying to get the current mayor of new york city on to discuss this and why he is or is not in favor of this change. i agree with the men and women on the job, and those in the prosecutors' offices who are telling me the same thing. c chief, thanks very much. >> thanks, chris. >> be well. our next guest was arrested
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you see what happened in congress? the senior general in the u.s. military smacking down this republican who was questioning the defense department's diversity efforts. watch this. >> how should the department of defense think about critical race theory? >> can i make a comment, secretary, i'm sorry? >> i'll very limited on my time. >> i want to make a comment. >> i know. but i've asked the question to secretary austin. >> i do think it important, actually for those of us in uniform to be open minded and be widely read and the united states military academy is a university, and it is important that we train and we understand and i want to understand white rage and i'm white and i want to
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understand it. so what is it that caused thousands of people to assault this building and try to overturn the contusion of the quit united states of america? what caused that? i want to find it. it's important we understand that because our soldiers, sailors, airmen come from the american people so it's important the leaders now and in the future do understand it. i've read miles say tongue, i've read carl marks. i've read lennon. that doesn't make me a communist. so what is wrong with understanding have some situational understanding about the country for which we are here to defend? i personally find it offensive that we're accusing the united states military, general officers, commissioned officers of being quote woke or something else because we're studying theories out there. that was started at harvard law school years ago and proposed there was laws in the united states, prior to the civil war
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that led to a power differential with african-americans with three-quarters of a human being when this country was formed and had a civil war to change it and brought it up in 1964 and took another 100 years to change that. look, i do want to know. >> damn. now, i show this to you because not of the genius of the general making points but seeded game for what it is. gates and trumpers want critical race theory to be a fog horn. they don't want more dog whi whistles. this is about the woke left making the white man pay for things. it not what it is. that's the ugly side. let get the truth. joining us now, reverend william barber, co-chair of the poor people's campaign. reverend, tank youhank you for us us. >> amen. my dad would have loved to hear
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him say that like that. >> we need to hear it from all corners. you didn't come here to talk about critical race theory. you came here to talk about something that is a theory, which is that there is a very critical moment for race in this country, which is if you don't stop these laws from abridging the right to vote and there is almost none of them that makes it easier to vote, you're going to take us back to 1960, 1961, 162 161 162. what do you want people to know? >> it was about the law. you use the critical word bridge. white people from west virginia z and kentucky and black people from the hood came here and started in west virginia by the hundreds today to say listen, s 1 is what we want.
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minimal standards these states have to oa bide by and they cannot continue to abridge. this is not just a black issue. it not even jim crow pure because when you start rolling back same day registration and early voting, undermining mail in ballots, putting limits on people even being able to get water. doing racist jerry bandering, you hurt black people. you hurt white people, asians, natives, latinos, young people and the disabled and so that's why we came in moral fusion to say this should not even be an issue, the 15th amendment is the law of the land. nobody has the right of state to abridge or deny the right to vote. we need same day registration and early voting and people to vote freely and fairly so the
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people led us today and they said since mansion and mcconnell wouldn't answer them for a meeting, they wanted a meeting with their religious leaders and voting rights lawyers and they said we're willing to put our bodies on the line. this is not optional. this is not optional. we cannot have suppression in this country and especially when we know the voter suppression are the same one that suppress us passing $15 living wage. they suppress health care. they suppress infrastructure that reaches all the way down and lifts up poor communities and they end up hurting the 140 million poor and low wealth people in this country the most and the 65 million poor low wealth people who are eligible voters in this country. merely 30% of the electret. >> they want to make sure that people in schools, maybe even just college get to learn how it's connected and part of s
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thank you for the opportunity to be with us tonight and to get after it. it's now time for the big show "don lemon tonight" and the big star, d. lemon. >> you said there's lots of big news on and there is. we have to talk about crime and what you were just talking about, but i tell you a really big story today is britney spears in court. not often do you get a star that big being as candid and open, i'm traumatized, tratraumatized. i told the world i'm happy and okay. i'm not happy. i can't sleep. i'm so angry. it is insane. she said she was forced to use birth control against her will. she wants her father out and she wants out of tha
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