thank you for the opportunity to be with us tonight and to get after it. it is now time for the big show, "don lemon tonight," and the big star d lemon. >> as i saw you start your broadcast earlier, you said there is lots of big news going on. and there is. we have lots to talk about. we have to talk about crime. we have to talk about what you were just talking about. but i tell you, a really big story today is britney spears. britney spears, in court. not often, do you get a star that big, being as candid and as open. i am traumatized. traumatized. i've told the world i am happy and okay. but i'm traumatized. i'm not happy. i can't sleep. i'm so angry, it is insane. she said that she was forced to use birth control against her will. she wants her father out. and she wants out of that conservatorship. i -- i don't know where we go,

from here. but this is, certainly, something that we should be paying attention to. where does the conservatorship end? and autonomy for britney spears, a fully-grown woman, begin? >> and finding that she can be in charge of her affairs. and she will not be susceptible to undue influence. and that -- this is -- i've never seen another one of these, by the way. yes, it's britney spears. but to me, the issues are more interesting than the person involved because gets kid get. that's why we are talking about it. but the elderly-disabled, get this. an adjudicated, mentally-ill person gets this. not a 40-year-old person, who can speak for themselves and act for themselves. i know she's had problems but this isn't even a limited conservatorship. what happens next is her getting

a day in court where this doctor finding that her mind doesn't work, she can't be in charge of her own affairs, is not accurate. it's got to be litigated. i believe she will win. and then, it's what choices she makes in her life. >> i hope that she's okay. and i hope that she does win and i hope that she is able to be the britney spears -- the person that she wants to be, especially with her kids and with her entire family. but i also think it's important, chris. you know how you and i talk about mental health and taking the stigma off of mental health? there should be no stigma on mental health. everyone in this country went through a traumatic year or 14 months, or however long. still, going through it. some people can't -- some people, having trouble with reentering into society. and you can, certainly, understand. we should give people some time. but i -- i hope that this works out, not only for britney spears. but it helps to take the stigma and lifts the veil on mental health in this country. so that we can, all, talk about

it openly. and people can actually get the help that they need. is that too much to ask? >> no but we also have to be straight about it. which is, you can be mentally ill and in charge of your affairs. >> amen. >> like, 99% of people who are mentally ill. you know, the mentally ill are much more likely to be victims of violent crime than perpetrators of it. so if you're depressed, it doesn't mean they're going to take all your stuff. >> right. >> this is about whether or not somebody is so ill. it's like, yeah, i have cancer but i'm still working. versus, you're in the hospital, on a chemo drip and it's not going to end well. that's what a conservatorship is for. that's nowhere near where she is, by all reckoning, including by her former lawyer that we had on the show tonight. so this ain't about her being mentally ill so you got to lose everything because everybody's crazy, if they're mentally ill. >> no. >> this is a good way to take that down, if she can make the showing in court. >> there are lots of different things that you can, you know, that you can -- when it comes to

me mental illness, right? look at what's happening with the tennis player. all sorts of things, and it can come in different forms. but, yes, you can be in charge of your life. if you should be on medication, do that. if you need therapy, talk therapy, psychotherapy, you should be able to do that. but you know what i think everyone should be able to do? and that's talk just like we do. also, on the "handoff." the "handoff" which is available on apple podcasts. it's chris and i talking even more candidly and openly i think than we do on -- >> we went deep on this one. the one we just did that's coming out. we went deep. >> we talked about crime. we talked about history. we talked about, what? >> we talked about juneteenth. we talked about the supreme court and where the line is between religious liberty and a secular society. and we talked about -- most importantly, i think you guys will love this the most, please,

let us know. let him know on social media more than me. is what is family about? what goes into the decision of whether or not to have kids? what's the up? what's the down? and you heard it from one wisened, old parent, me. and about don who is thinking about sticking his toe in the pool. it's deep but it's real. >> yep. so, a little secret before i go, in two seconds. >> uh-huh. >> with chris this weekend for juneteenth. they are great parents but they don't often feed their kids. so their kids end up hanging out with me to have lunch. >> you know, if it weren't don, i would have been embarrassed because first of all, i swam over to his boat first to mooch a little bit of food. but my son went over to his boat -- >> and ate half of the boat. >> -- and i could see on the faces of don's guests, that they were a little, like, kind of, like, uncomfortable with how much this kid was eating. and then, i don't even think he said thank you.

he just like jumped off the boat. it was like a seal got on the boat. >> can i have one of those ice cream sandwiches for me and my four friends? sure, take it, mario. >> you are a good uncle. and let's be honest. little less food ain't gonna kill you. >> nor you, fatty. >> i love you, d lemon. >> i love you, too, sir. this is don lemo"don lemon toni we have got a very busy news night. promise you there is a lot going on. the justice department releasing six never-before-seen videos from police body camera and surveillance footage. it shows rioters harassing and attacking police. police are trying to defend the capitol on january 6th. now, these videos are chilling. they are a chilling reminder of just what happened when a trump-supporting crowd fought police, stormed the halls of congress. and i have to warn you, again, as we have been with this -- with these videos -- you're going to see violence. you are going to hear some graphic language. we're not beeping the language because this is the way it actually happened, and we want you to get the full context of

it. now, this video. it shows officers in a skirmish with a man in a red-maga hat. police fall to the ground. and then, the chaos continues with another man yelling, get out. >> get out! get out! >> yelling at officers to get out. and then, there's another video. this one shows a man with a skateboard, who prosecutors say is 21-year-old grady owens of texas, attacking police with it.

>> sickening. sickening. sickening. we have a lot more to come, in just a minute, on these never-before-seen videos. and what they tell us, really, about what happened on one of the darkest days in our history. but i want you to listen to joint chiefs chairman, general mark milley. he is talking, today, about why it is so important to understand -- and i quote here -- white rage behind what happened on january 6th. and why members of the military should study theories, like critical-race theory. >> and it is important, that we

train and we understand. and i -- i want to understand white rage. and i'm white. and i want to understand it. so, what is it that caused thousands of people to assault this building, and try to overturn the constitution of the united states of america? what caused that? i want to find that out. i want to maintain an open mind here. and i do want to analyze it. it's important that we understand that because our soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines, and guardians, they come from the american people. so it is important that the leaders, now and in the future, do understand it. i've read -- i've read karl marx. i have a he read lenin. that doesn't make me a communist. so, what is wrong with understanding? having some situational understanding about the country for which we are here to defend? and i, personally, find it offensive that we are accusing the united states' military, our commissioned, non-commissioned officers, of being, quote, woke, or something else because we're studying some theories that are out there. that was started at harvard law

school years ago and it proposed that there were laws in the united states. antebellum laws prior to the civil war that led to a power differential with african-americans that were three-quarters of a human being when this country was formed. and we had a civil war and emancipation proclamation to change it. brought to the civil rights act in 1964. took another-hundred years to change that. >> hmm. the truth is tough, sometimes, to hear, isn't it? for some folks. and while the chairman of the joint chiefs makes an eloquent defense of the truth and stands up for america's military. embattled congressman matt gaetz lobs a despicable tweet attacking the general and i quote here. with generals like this, it's no wonder we fought considerably-more wars than we've won. gross. it's just gross. and should be expected,

considering the behavior of this, whatever you want to call him. a congressman denigrating our own armed forces. and there's more. gaetz asking defense secretary, lloyd austin, what he thinks of critical-race theory. and claiming that some service members, some, have complained to him about how the military is fighting extremism in its ranks. here it is. >> they say that your standdown regarding extremism did not help our military. it hurt the military. and i -- i want to share, with you, that perspective. that it caused service members to otherize one another. it impaired group cohesion. and interesting to me is that i have heard those sentiments, most frequently from units that are majority-minority. how should the department of defense think about critical-race theory? >> i don't know what the -- what the issue of critical-race theory is, and what the relevance here in with the

department. we do not teach critical-race theory. we don't -- we don't embrace critical-race theory. and i think -- i think that's a spurious conversation. and so, we are focused on extre extr extremist behaviors and not ideology, not -- not people's thoughts, not people's political orientation. behaviors is what we're focused on. and one, final point, and thanks for your anecdotal input. but i would say that, i have gotten ten-times that amount of input, 50 times that amount of input, on the other side. that have said, hey, we're -- we're -- we're glad to have had the ability to have a conversation with ourselves and with our leadership. and that's what we need. >> well, he said that's what we need. but people have said, in the military, i want you to hear their perspective because you are teaching critical-race theory. and then, he says, no, we don't teach critical-race theory.

matt gaetz, come on. okay. and while the chairman -- so, listen. he -- it's exactly what we need in the military in this country. we need to talk to each other about the problems that we face. we really do. but republicans, like matt gaetz. they just want to sweep it all under the rug. distract you from revving up the old outrage machine. it is an outrage machine. they are using this, as a boogieman. critical-race theory. and i'll -- going to talk in a second about how it's not even taught to young kids. we said that last night. it's not -- they are -- they are -- they're trying to -- they want you to fall for the okeydoke. there's no there, there. outrage machine. that's what they're doing. ginning it up. first, it was masks. then, it was the big lie of nonexistent-election fraud. and now, this new boogieman is critical-race theory, which has been around forever.

they just picked something out of a hat and said this sounds ominous. so, let's use this. this word sounds ominous. antifa! sounds ominous. right? the new black panthers. that sounds ominous. acorn. sounds ominous. now, critical-race theory. the new, ominous, boogieman word. straw man. nothing there. they are using it to stoke outrage in schools across the country, even though, as i said, it is not even taught to kids. a school-board meeting in virginia erupting in chaos, last night, over critical-race theory. which the superintendent says they don't even teach. >> shame on you! shame on you! shame on you! shame on you! >> sh -- again, falling for it.

and the people who are pushing it should be ashamed of themselves. because they are exploiting the lack of information that people have. they are exploit -- you're being exploited. it's not being taught to your kids, i'm sorry. that's the truth. it is such a cynical game. they take one, little grain of truth. school districts in the country. that's becoming more and more diverse. doing a long-overdue reset of how they teach history. and they blow up that grain of truth, with lies about critical-race theory. preying on parents' fears that the world is changing around them. that's all it is. fear. they want to -- they -- they're preying on your fear. c coopting you and that fear and the division. and that is all happening while there is a very real problem in

this country that we have been talking about on this program. we have police chiefs from all around country, during the middle of the pandemic, talking about this problem. it's not something new to us, especially on this program, if you have been watching. it's the spike in crime. violent crime. spreading all across the country. the major cities' chief association has found that homicides in the first quarter of this year are up over last year across this country. from portland and l.a. to chicago and louisville, baltimore, and philadelphia. yes, we were dealing with a pandemic last year. but a lot of people feel that that's exacerbated the issue. here's the president of the united states today. >> crime is historically rises during the summer. and as we emerge from this pandemic, with the country opening back up again. the traditional summer -- summer spike may even be more pronounced than it usually would be. >> so, the president vowing to crack down on gun dealers, who break existing laws. and making it clear that, he

wants to invest in, not defund, the police. the fbi director, christopher wray, attributing the surge in crime, in part, to bail reform. that is a conversation we have had on this show, as well. former-new york city police commissioner talked about that. other law-enforcement folks have been on talking about bail reform moving too fast. police departments around the country, doing too much, too fast, when it comes to bail reform. the exact quote from the former-commissioner bratton is that, what people need to realize, especially those who are around the, quote/unquote, defund the police movement. some people need to be in jail. so, this bail reform, according to law enforcement and the fbi, that is what's preventing people accused of crimes from being incarcerated before going to trial. >> do you believe that one of the reasons crime is on the rise is that certain jurisdictions

have, basically, eliminated bail? you catch 'em on monday morning. and they are out on the streets monday afternoon? >> well, i guess, i would put it this way. i think there is nothing more disheartening to a law-enforcement officer, to see somebody that you worked hard to arrest, promptly, back out committing a crime, again. >> yeah. >> and enough people to go after the first time -- over and over and over again. >> it's also disheartening to the people in the community when they see that happen, as well. because then, their communities are not as safe as they should be. so, i mentioned the former-police commissioner of new york city, nypd commissioner, bill bratton, he is going to be on in just a moment. you don't want to miss that. and we are going to have a candid conversation about what's going on in this country with crime. that, as the world is watching a courtroom in l.a. chris and i just talked about this. where britney spears is pleading to be removed from the

nearly-13-year conservatorship that gave her father control of her finances, and a whole lot of her life, still. still. this is far beyond. chris is right. this goes beyond britney spears. that's why we talk so much about it. this is about what happens to people, in this country, when they have issues with mental health. as many, many people do. should be -- should not be a stigma. and what we're learning about her testimony is really shocking. britney spears speaking for more than 20 minutes as she read from a letter beginning this way, quote, i haven't been back to court in a long time because i don't think i was heard, on any level, when i came to court the last time. she says that she was put on lithium, forced to use birth control against her will, and she was, quote -- she says, quote, i have told the world i'm happy and okay. i'm traumatized. i'm not happy. i can't sleep. i'm so angry, it's insane. a lot more to come, on this, later on in the show. and everyone should pay attention to this because we, all, have someone. and maybe, it's even ourselves,

who are dealing with issues in our family. and we are going to talk more about that. britney spears and the broader issue. and like i said, a lot more news tonight. want to bring in cnn's paula reid with more on these never-before-seen videos from the capitol insurrection. paula, good evening to you. thank you for joining us. you had new videos last night. you had new videos last week. and now, these new videos are showing rioters -- more, new videos -- harassing and attacking police. the violence and what we can see and hear on these videos. it is absolutely chilling. go on. what do you have for us? >> it is completely chilling. and what's so extraordinary about these never-before-seen clips is that many of them are from the viewpoint of police as they were overrun. the footage has come from body cameras and surveillance cameras. it's the latest, chilling, frame-by-frame account of how these pro-trump supporters broke into federal buildings as the police just tried to protect themselves and the capitol. now, don, you and i have talked before, on this show, about why it's so important for the public

to see these videos. especially, as some lawmakers and right-wing outlets continue to try to shift blame, away from the former president and his supporters. by distorting what happened that day. but videos like this. they leave no doubt. but these videos are only available to the public, because over a dozen outlets, led by cnn, fought to make them public. now, i want tos toss to one of the clips. again, this is an extraordinary moment where you have rioters clashing with police, while chanting, usa, usa. let's take a look. >> usa! usa! usa!

usa! usa! usa! >> got to get out. >> hey, i got you. i got you. i got ya. >> i mean, it's absolutely incredible. these videos have been used in court in the cases against defendants charged in the attack but they have not been made public. which is why news outlets have been fighting for them to be released. now, the specific clips that we have seen throughout your show. they are from the case against a man named grady owens. he is accused of attacking officers with a skate board, after he and his family allegedly came to d.c. to support the former president's efforts to overturn the election. now, owens has been charged with six crime, including assaulting

officers with a dangerous weapon, impeding passage through the capitol, and other violence on the grounds. but, don, he has pleaded not guilty. >> paula, thank you for your reporting. we will see ya soon. thanks so much. the traditional summer spike in crime may be worse than usual, this year. and the director of the fbi says that he is concerned about that. can it be fixed? and how long will it go on? that is next. >> we, absolutely, are concerned about the rise in violent crime. specifically, the most dangerous type of violent crime, namely, the homicide rates all over the country. tex-mex. tex-mex. ♪ termites. ♪ don't mess up your deck with tex-mex. terminix. here to help.

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this is important for everyone. okay? everyone watching. president biden, warning the traditional-summertime jump in crime may be even worse this year, with crime already spiking across the country. the president unveiling a strategy to reduce violent crime with a focus on getting more guns off the streets. and sending additional resources to local-law enforcement agencies. so i want to discuss now with bill bratton, former new york city police commissioner. also, the author of "profession" a memoir of community, race, and the arc of policing in america. commissioner, it's good to have you on. thank you so much. listen. i just want to lay it out here, what the president is proposing. and then, get what you think about the strategy. the strategy is to tackle the surge in violent crime, by cracking down on illegal-gun trafficking and rogue-gun dealers using american rescue plan dollars to hire more law

enforcement and other policing efforts. will that help, commissioner? >> well, actually, is only a portion of the strategy that the president discussed today. more details, hopefully, will be coming. but i was very surprised to see how comprehensive that strategy was, and the various tactics within it. i'm encouraged by it. that this is something we've obviously been working on for a while. not talking about only refunding the police, who desperately need that funding. we are down from over 800,000 police officers in the '90s. i think the latest count is about 675,000 in police departments around the country are losing additional officers, every day. he is talking about refunding to hire more police, in the short-term, to give overtime money to cities to put officers on overtime in the summer months. but the comprehensive aspect of this plan is that he is, also, talking about other efforts to

prevent crime. the whole idea of putting money into things that we know do work in many cities around the country. the idea of street work is going into various communities to deal with the gang violence. because most of the violence in most cities around this country is gang violence. people who have access to guns. the police executive resource forum, yesterday, did a town hall with police chiefs from around the country. and five of those chiefs talked about the situations in their city. new york, portland, louisville, baton rouge, and baltimore. they were, all, very pessimistic about the summer. about the levels of violence. and their inability to slow down the trend of that violence. well, the president's actions, today, are very important because it showed, at a national level, this thing has risen to the level of a national crises. and before you can fix a crises,

you have to admit that you have one. finally, we are recognizing that, as we are dealing with the coronavirus, we let another crisis grow, unimpeded. and, in fact, facilitated it with bail reform, criminal-justice reform. and unceasing attacks on american-law enforcement. american-law enforcement. there's a lot that you can criticize it for. but the attacks were so comprehensive that, it undermined confidence on the part of the public. and undermined morale with policing and we are seeing some of the effects of that impact, if you will. >> so, listen. and i -- i want to continue on to -- to discuss this, because over -- during the quarantine and during the pandemic. we had -- i'm sure we reached out to you and to others. but we had police commissioners on from different cities around the country. and they talked to us about this issue, as we were dealing with the coronavirus. and people were at home. see these major spikes in crime in new york, in los angeles, and

chicago. they have increased -- look at -- want to put these numbers up. homicide rates in these cities have increased, from the same point last year and even the year before. there they are, before you. and you mentioned bail reform and you mention some other things. and last time you were on, you said that -- that -- that cities were moving too quickly with some of these reforms. and they were, actually, hurting. what can you attribute these -- this rise in homicide rates to, commissioner? >> a number of things. and we're still not certain, in terms of some of the things that may have caused the rise. certainly, one of them was, during the coronavirus year, the american criminal-justice system shut down. the court system shut down. and at the same time, we were releasing, across the country, tens of thousands of people from our state prisons and our jails. those coming out of the state prisons are particularly problematic. 80% of the people in state prison are in there for violent

crime. the jails, offetentimes, peoplen there for a minor crime. but state prisons. you don't go to state prison easily. you go for major, violent crime. so, as we emptied out the state prisons, new york city. new york state is a prime example. we had no resources to deal with those people, as they were released. usually, to deal with the overcrowding and to, basically, try to deal with the covid crises. but they come out into the streets with no place to go, no-support services, no supervision. and at the same time, our courts shut down. that you make an arrest, you might get an arraignment. but effectively, there are no trials. new york city, currently, has 5,000 individuals who have been arrested on serious-gun charges. who have been arraigned. but the vast, vast majority of them are out in the street. and new york, to date, has had one murder trial this year. so the idea is the cause of some of what you are seeing is so many violent people, let out of

prison. so many others, who have been arrested for violent crime, for which nothing has happened to them. and i will make a prediction for you. in new york city, i can guarantee the district attorneys in new york city, because they're not able to meet the speedy-trial mandate. many of those thousands of people who were arrested for gun violence. their cases will be dismissed. and what's gonna happen? they are going to be back out on the street. don -- john -- don, there is a national crisis in our criminal-justice system at the moment that is not being acknowledged or recognized. and to fix a lot of what the president is proposing is going to help because he is talking about money to be poured into all these issues. including, not just the police and the courts. but also, into a lot of the social needs, the emotionally disturbed, the homeless, and the drug addicted. the -- the -- the loss of lives in the drug-addicted population is still continuing.

opioid crisis is phenomenal. talk about the homicide rates. everybody focuses on the homicide rates. i am focused more on the shooting rates. become so adept in our trauma hospitals, at dealing with shooting victims. homicide rate would be a lot higher but for the medical expertise in our hospitals. but let's pay a little more attention to the shooting victims because those numbers are much higher than the homicide rate. >> commissioner, you know, as always, i am grateful to have you on to talk about these issues. and i know it's tough and there are people -- especially, in the reform-the-police movement who may not want to hear your words. but people are feeling this in their lives. and they are seeing it. it's personal, especially when you lose someone or someone in -- is affected by gun violence or crime in -- in your neighborhood. commissioner, please, come back. we are going to continue to talk about this problem, highlight it, and try to make it beater. thank you so much. we will see you soon. thank you very much. so, um, let's talk about, now. you know, the former-police

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okay. now, to britney spears, who is pleading with a judge today to end her court-ordered conservatorship. which she calls, and i quote here, abusive. telling the judge, again, i quote, i just want my life back. more on this story, now, from cnn's stephanie elam. ♪ hit me baby one more time ♪ >> reporter: britney spears is angry. she wants her life back. and she wants the world to know it. speaking remotely to a los angeles county courtroom, the pop singer saying her wish and dream is for the conservatorship to end. a legal arrangement she's been living with for nearly-13 years. in the hearing, spears

expressing frustration over the lack of control of her own life saying, quote, i'm traumatized. i'm not happy. i can't sleep. i'm so angry, it's insane. even adding, she wants to marry and have another child. both, major-life moments, she says the current conservatorship doesn't allow. her father's only response to the artist's stinging criticisms was that he loves and misses her. the trouble for britney spears began in 2007. her girl-next-door image unraveling in front of the paparazzi, who were always chasing her. capturing her every move, especially the uncomfortable moments in the singer's personal life. the following year, multiple health and psychiatric issues landed spears in the hospital, in january. her father, jamie spears, filed a petition with the los angeles county superior court, that february, to place her under a temporary probate conservatorship. jamie spears and attorney becoming permanent co-conservators of the estate in october, 2008. her father getting control of her medical care. something, spears spoke,

emotionally, about. saying, quote, i want to be able to get married and have a baby. i was told i can't get married. i have an iud inside me but the so-called team won't let me go to the doctor to remove it because they don't want me to have any more children. this conservatorship is doing me way more harm than good. >> usually, most conservatorships in probate court are for the elderly. people that have -- have, um, exhibited memory deficits. or judgment deficits that are pervasive. and most likely, going to endure for the rest of their lives. >> reporter: but through all this, britney spears kept working while under this conservatorship. releasing several albums. two that went platinum. >> what's up, vegas? >> reporter: holding down her "pieces of me" las vegas residency and serve as a judge on the x factor. the attorney resigned in the spring of 20 # 19 leaving

spears' father in control of just about every aspect of her life. in legal documents, her court-appointed lawyer stating, quote, brittany is strongly opposed to have her father as conservator and requested that jamie be removed. instead, a judge added a private wealth and investment management firm as a co-conservator to oversee her estate. now, spears wants to pick her own lawyer and as she said in court, quote, i just want my life back. stephanie elam, cnn, los angeles. >> stephanie, thanks so much. strong words from britney spears. but will the judge grant her request to get out of her conservatorship? an here. and you need it here. and here. and here. which is why the scientific expertise that helps operating rooms stay clean is now helping the places you go every day too.

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joining me now to discuss, samantha is director of the documentary "framing britney spears." i love the doc, by the way, samantha. it was really, really great. so thank you for that. and cnn legal analyst, joey jackson. a criminal-defense attorney. joey, always a pleasure to have you on. good to see you, as well. joey, so, britney spears wants to end her conservatorship. she's been under it for nearly-13 years. she doesn't want to have a clear -- she doesn't want to have a clear-health evaluation. she is 39 years old. she's incredibly successful. will it happen? what's going to happen? >> so, it could, don. good evening, to you. so, what happens is we obviously know that she's had her share of issues, right? she had some mental-health problems. a lot of people do. that is a thing. and so, unfortunately, with that and some alleged-drug use, what have you, about-13 years ago, her father thought it was appropriate to act as her guardian. lot of things at stake, lot of assets at stake. lot of decisions to be made and lot of predators, quite frankly, as relates to all of her moneys

and all of her income. and so, there was this conservatorship and i think, at that time, perhaps for very good reason and that's continued over the course of the years to guide her, to look over her to ensure things are as they should be. but now, as she apparently gets better. she is in court, indicating that she's competent. she is able. she's responsible. and that she wants back in. and so, look. we live in a society where all of us should be able to tend to our affairs if we are competent and able to do so. and the argument she's making is that she is. and so, to your question, in the event that she can demonstrate to a court's satisfaction, after psychiatric and other evaluations happen, that she should be in place and that everyone else should be removed. i think that's exactly what should happen. we are a ways from that but i think, certainly, that's what the movement is that she would like to see moving forward. >> so, samantha, britney spears didn't hold back today. she talked about not being able to get married or have a baby. her so-called team won't let her get off birth control. i mean, you really opened a lot of people's eyes to what she is going through in

>> i'm absolutely not surprised, because we knew most of it from our investigation that we published yesterday about how britney has been wanting to get out of this for so long. i also have to disagree with my fellow panelist's position that, you know, i think a lot of people assume, just say oh, she needed it, like it really helped her and saved her life, but now it's a different story. this woman was guest starring on national tv, releasing an album and doing an international tour of 100 shows within one year of being put thisin this conservatorship. that's part of what she's expressing. i'm bringing in all the money and paying all of you, to the lawyers and everybody around her. she said she felt forced into a mental health facility and forced to perform. she said she would be retaliated

against with visits from her kids and visits from her boyfriend taken away if she didn't agree to these performances and tours that she felt too tired to do. she didn't want to do it anymore, and forcing someone to work and forcing someone into a mental health facility. and she said they forced hadar to her to take lithium, which she had never taken before. she told the judge, i told you all this in 2019 and it felt like you didn't listen to me. i felt like i was dead, i felt like i didn't matter. those are strong words from a strong situation. i mean, this woman was completely cognizant and had so many points about how she was taken advantage of, she also said she was abused. >> i'm out of time. i literally have five seconds left if that much. so what's next? >> so, what's next is i think

she has to demonstrate she's competent and able. at the end of the day it's up to whether she's compa competent. we have to be objective in our evaluation. many of the documents are sealed. what we do know is a judge felt it was appropriate to be in place. the judge will make the decision as to whether it will be removed. it will be up to her and whether she's competent and able. >> we appreciate having you on. we'll continue with this. thanks, we'll be right back. way for you to sell your car. whether it's a year old or a few years old. we wanna buy your car. so go to carvana and enter your license plate answer a few questions. and our techno wizardry calculates your car's value and gives you a real offer in seconds.

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