time in surfside, florida. let's he had to "ac 360" for that. good evening. we're waiting for a briefing expected shortly from officials in surfside, florida, where at least 99 people are still unaccounted for after parts of a 12-story apartment building collapsed in the early hours of this morning. surveillance video you see captured the moment as one section then the next at champlain towers south, about 55 units in all came down. this was about 1:30 in the morning. crews have been on the scene almost ever since. >> you're good. >> so far, they've only managed

to find a precious few survivors. we know from experience that people can manage to endure for days under the right conditions if they're trapped in the rubble. we also know officials are warning the situation could get very grim as hours unfold. as i said, we're awaiting a press conference from officials any moment. our randi kaye is there for us tonight. >> reporter: anderson, still 99 people unaccounted for but rescuers are not giving up hope. they have been at it for 18 hours. at one point they were working in the parking garage underneath the collapsed building. now they have some teams actually on top of that pile of rubble going through it, looking for survivors. but certainly it has not been easy. there were some heavy rains here earlier today, and every time that building shifts, it has the potential for some small fires. we saw one of those earlier today. but rescuers say, anderson, they will work through the night. in a matter of moments, a huge chunk of the champlain towers

south in surfside, florida, collapses into a cloud of dust. this video appears to show what happened at about 1:30 in the morning as residents slept. >> you don't see buildings falling down in america, and here we had a building literally fall down. just doesn't happen. >> reporter: the 12-story condo tower just north of miami beach was built in 1981. of the more than 130 units inside, nearly half of them are now destroyed. more than 100 people have been accounted for, but officials say nearly 100 are still missing. >> i found out my nephew was here with his wife and three children. you never lose hope. i'm just asking god. >> reporter: whatever brought the building down was so strong, neighbors heard it and felt it next door. >> i was asleep and suddenly a loud bang -- almost like a tremble -- went on.

it woke me up. this rumbling was very different, very strange, and something was not right in this sound. it was too strong, too violent. it almost felt like a shock wave coming from the next building. >> reporter: since long before dawn, search teams have been combing through rubble using concrete saws and other life-saving equipment. search dogs also led the way. rescuers are hoping anyone is still alive trapped beneath the rubble. earlier today they thought they had found someone. >> they heard sounds earlier this morning from what they feel was somebody in the parking garage. so how far the communications were made, people in those type of situations will find items to make noise with because they want to be saved. >> reporter: 35 people were rescued from the structure that was still standing. two more people were pulled from the rubble. at least four were taken to the hospital where one died.

>> the problem is the building has literally pancaked. there's just feet in between stories where there were ten feet. that is heartbreaking because it doesn't mean to me that we're going to be successful -- as successful as we would want to be to find people alive. >> nicholas balboa was out walking his dog when he heard a boy in the wreckage screaming for help. >> he was screaming don't leave me, don't leave me. >> reporter: rescue teams helped pull the boy to safety, but dozens of families are still wondering about their loved ones. >> this is very sad when you are dealing with people that don't know the outcome of their family. they're very worried. they are desperate in the sense that they want to know what's tale taking place. but we continue to try to r rescue. we continue to try to find more

people. >> reporter: tonight, anderson, of course there are many questions about what brought this building down, but officials are saying that is not their priority right now. the priority is saving lives. they don't want to tell all those families that their loved ones didn't make it, so they will continue to search. and the families are staying close. the last community center just a few blocks away. they can leave that center, but they have requested pillows and blankets. they're not moving waiting on word of their loved ones. >> randi, appreciate it. we'll check back with you. we're waiting for a press conference on this collapse. joining us now is josh and kevin speakingle, son and husband of judy spiegel, who is new england missing. gentlemen, function for joining us, so sorry it's under these circumstances. josh, i know you were at the family reunification all day. do you have any update? what have authorities been telling you? >> we don't have any updates at

this time. they've come and told us how many people are unaccounted for and that they have teams underground searching for people. but we don't have any other information other than that. >> but anderson, if you can look right behind us, they are on top of the rubble trying to start peeling it off one by one. we have a lot of hope that judy is still alive -- >> and still there. >> -- and still there. she's an amazing person, a great grandmother, mother, wife. she's just amazing. >> kevin, i know you live in this building with judy. i understand you were on a business trip in california. i cannot imagine to hear this news and then fly back. how are you doing? how are you both doing? >> i mean, it is hard. i was dining hospital turnaround

in watsonville, california. i got woken up in the middle of the night. you go look at your email and i saw the emergency notice on my phone, and that's when i notified all the kids and it was on the news. it was very unfortunate. >> yeah. as soon as i heard, i drove immediately down from orlando. we're here with my sister, rachel, and my brother, michael. the rest of the family is all here. we're hoping and praying that they are able to find my mom. >> you know, i spent time in places where buildings have collapsed. obviously in haiti and we saw people being pulled from the rubble days and days after a building has gone down, so it is certainly possible. i understand holding on to hope because we've seen it in the past. kevin, do you have any idea what happened? have you ever had any concerns about this building in the past?

>> no. i think, you know, surfside is a wonderful town. i think that the building did put off some of the repairs that it needed to do. but they were on track to start moving on things and most recently started to do the necessary requirements for the 40-year certification on the roof. and we were moving and the main lobby was the whole design of the modernization plan. so we were on track. it was actually moving forward, but maybe covid slowed it down. >> josh, we see and we've been told search and rescue teams will be working through the night. the mayor said they're not lacking when it comes to resources, which is a blessing, the fact that there are incredibly skilled first responders who are at this

moment and throughout the night are going to be working. i assume that gives you some amount of hope as well. >> yes. as coming from a health care-based family, we're very proud and we're very hopeful that the community here will be able to find our loved ones. and i just want to say that my mom is an absolutely amazing person. she's a fighter and she fights for every single one of us, and we won't stop until -- we won't stop fighting until we find her. >> josh and kevin spiegel, thank you so much for talking with us. i hope you get good news. i hope to be able to share that with you. thank you so much. i'm praying for you. >> anderson, god bless you. god bless everybody. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. >> stay strong.

more now on the people who will be on the scene for as long as this operation takes, the first responders who are doing incredibly delicate and life-saving work in the rubble. joining us, district chief jason richard of miami-dade fire rescue. chief richard, i appreciate you being with us. i can't imagine what this has been like. you ran the overnight search and rescue operation at the site and have been searching since 1:00 a.m. it's it like working this site? >> the site has been a difficult challenge for us. there's lots of hazards in the building. but we're continuing our efforts searching for survivors and doing our best. >> we saw the video released by miami-dade fire rescue showing rescue crews -- i believe it was in the parking garage. there's water on the ground. you can see supports, i guess, that you have put in to keep the structure that you're working under to keep you all safe.

can you explain -- i mean, in a thing like this, i mean, if you move one piece of metal, it's like a jigsaw puzzle, isn't it? you have to constantly be aware of how one piece affects another piece. >> that's correct. as we move into the rubble piles or, in this case, a parking you can't do we have structural engineers as part of the our urban search and rescue teams and teams that help us determine what's safe to go in and where we need to put shoring and other materials to make sure that the building doesn't shift or come down on our rescuers. so as we move through the building, we constantly monitor, making sure that there's no movement. every piece of rubble that we move, we have to take -- make efforts to stabilize the building inch by inch. there was a lot of water inside the structure due to broken pipes. that was one of the issues that we had to mitigate, all the utilities in the building, electric, gasoline from the

vehicles, propane and natural gas, water. so that was part of our operations overnight, was mitigating those hazards to us and any potential survivors. that was part of what we did overnight also. >> at this stage, are you using canines? are you using sound devices in the rubble to hear anything? i'm not sure what the chronology of how you work is. >> so yeah, we're using canine assets from miami-dade fire rescue and florida task force one, as well as other equipment. we stop and hail callout in the rubble pile, listening for sounds, tapping, voices, anything we might hear. occasionally we'll stop all of our operations and just have everybody go silent and listen. that in conjunction with the dogs moving about the rubble

pile constantly as well as listening devices. we have cameras that we can bore holes in into slabs of concrete and put into our spaces in order to see around corners and in small areas also. >> we heard from one official earlier talking about how the building -- not why, but sort of just structurally how it went down, that essentially it has pancaked. is that true for the entire structure, that it went down and it is just on top -- each floor is on top of the other? or is there -- is it possible there are spaces underneath? >> so in this type of collapse, even though it is a pancake collapse, as the slabs of concrete slide, they create voids. there are definitely voids. so we are hopeful that we will find patients in those spaces. we have identified voids and

those are the areas that we're focusing our efforts. >> obviously crews are going to be working through night. how difficult -- i mean, obviously you can bring in light. does it make it exponentially more difficult working at night? or can you light it up sufficiently that it's close to the same as day? >> so throughout the day we've been planning for this phase of the operation. once nightfall came, all day long we've been bringing in resources such as light carts. we have lighting that we're able to elevate 10, 15, 20 feet in the air in order to help out. so we have light carts, towers. our lard trucks have our ladder trucks have powerfully lights to help light up the scene. >> chef richard, i appreciate what your team is doing, incredibly skilled and brave. thank you. thanks for the update. >> thank you.

>> we're awaiting a press conference from other officials on the ground there any moment. we'll bring that to you live. joining us is congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz. have you been provided information about what may have caused this? >> because they really are, anderson, still in the midst of this heartbreaking, painstaking rescue operation, they're not even approaching being a little bit figure that out. it is the most bizarre -- just unbelievable situation, especially in a community like this one in south florida where we have such stringent building codes, 40-year inspection requirements. this building was 40 years old and about to go under his inspection and they haven't been able to sport that out. >> i believe an attorney for the condo association was on with

erin burnett saying in preparation for that 40-year update, they had had an engineer or multiple people looking at the building, coming up with a list of things they needed but didn't have any indication at this stage that. >> no, sir, things may have related to this, but obviously, as you said, the focus is really on the recovery efforts right now. what have you been told about -- >> right, and family zblebz what have you been told? we talked to the chief there. what's the plan for the coming hours? >> so over this period of time, they just shifted the crew here, the search and rescue is continuing. i've been working since i got on the ground and before i left washington this morning with the white house and with our state emergency management officials here to make sure that all the requests that are made by miami-dade county and surfside are able to be granted.

the white house has confirmed that whatever is asked for is going to be granted in terms of the longer-term housing assistance, debris removal, the expenses that are obviously massive that no budget this small like the city of surfside is or miami-dade county can handle. as to say unexpected. the key thing is here is that we have dozens and dozens of families whose hearts are broken, who are desperate to get information about their people. i'm working through my district office, anderson, to try to get visas processed quickly so that we can get family members -- because there's a lot of international families here, and we need to get their loved ones here who have people who might have been in the building or who we think were in the building, and we want to make sure we get their loved ones close. this is the most bizarre, freakish, chaotic situation, but we have the best search and rescue team in the country here, our search and rescue team goes

to disasters around the country and the world. unfortunately right now the disaster is here at home for us. >> congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz, thank you for your time. sorry for the circumstances. >> thank you. >> coming up next, we'll talk to a structural engineer and what may have been the cause of this and why in this country at least incidents like these are rare. senator bernie sanders joins us later in the big bipartisan infrastructure deal announced by the white house today, but the less bipartisan spending deal both he and the president want to go along with it. more ahead. there's a world where every one of us is connected. everyone. everywhere. where everyone is included. where everyone has access to information, education, opportunity.

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search for what may have caused the disaster is only getting started. in a moment, we'll talk with a leading structural engineer. joining us now is florida international university's sha moan da vinski who did the study of the building last year that determined for at least a portion of its life it had been sinking. professor, first of all, the idea that this had been sinking, can you explain what that actually means, how much you noticed that, how much was it sinking, and what more do you know about the condition of the building? >> okay, so it was -- we looked at it as part of a study when we monitor subsiding of miami-dade county. we use satellite data from space. we looked at the movement of the earth surface of the building. we don't like the term "sinking" because sinking something that sinking into liquids. we use the term subsiding.

>> subsiding. >> what we notice is the building was subsiding at the rate of 2 millimeter per year, which is pretty small. but it was noticeable because the rest of the area was pretty stable. >> you say it was noticeable. it's not noticeable to the human eye, 2 millimeters a year, it's noticeable through your instruments? >> exactly, and observation from space. so it's noticeable. other places moved, but in particular area, other building did move. it was a localized area of subsidence. we used the european space agency between 1993 and 1999. what we could report is about movement that happened during that period. and we saw that the building was moving. so it's not clear if the land

was moving tor the building was moving into the land, but obviously the building itself moved, very small portion, which is about -- over the measurement pert of 60 years, half an inch. >> you were studying this in the '90s over the course of some six years and you're talking about millimeters. is there any -- there's no evidence at this point -- because, frankly, we do not know what caused this tragedy -- whether any kind of movement of a few millimeters each year would have had any kind of impact on what actually happened, correct? >> well, the thing is that we had the measurement in the 1990s. we did a study just a few years ago and we reported it last year. because we were concerned about the rising sea level. but we need to look at more data and to see if the rate of

subsidence accelerated, changed, or stopped, because we cannot say. the thing is that the building moved at a very slow rate, but still moved. usually the things associated with some cracks in buildings and structural damage, it's hard to say because we never went over there >> yeah. >> we just noticed that and we reported that in our study. >> it's also interesting because you were saying that this was very localized, meaning that it wasn't -- this wasn't happening to all the buildings around it, correct? >> that's correct. in other places we saw more diffuse pattern. over there it was localized. that's why it's most likely sink that happened to the building, whether it's the ground movement with respect to the ground, whether the building -- but it's not of the building around it. >> professor, i appreciate your time tonight.

thank you very much. >> thank you very much. we're going to officials on the ground there holding a press conference. >> we snand solidarity once again to tell you we're working around the clock to search and rescue people in this rubble, and we did identify and declare as safe 102 people, and 99 we still cannot account for, some of whole may not have been in the building. so our firefighters, men and women, are working around the clock, a huge task force of people that are continuing. right now they're working, the dogs are working in the garage, they're working on the top, so they're visible right now. but they are proceeding with all of their might. i can assure you these fire

rescue are the best in the world, the ones called upon during crisis everywhere. they are so motivated to bring people out safely and restore them to their loved ones. so we just wanted to let you know as the day comes to an end that their day does not. but we will be back bright and early 7:30. what's our time for our press? approximately 8:00 we'll be here to report after our morning briefing, and we will report on what has happened throughout the night. we're very pleased that we're joined by our senator, marco rubio, our congresswoman, desh wasserman schultz, our chairman of the commission and vice chairman of the commission. we just wanted to be sure that we could close out the day for you and you could all take a rest and come back refreshed in the morning. [ speaking spanish ]

>> listening to the mayor of miami-dade county. not much new information, pointing out that the latest from officials on the ground, 99 people still unaccounted for tonight in surfside. though it's important to point out, as she said, that's 99 people they can't account for. doesn't mean it's known that 99 people were in that building and they haven't accounted for those people who were in the building. they're not sure that some of those 99 people may have been out. this occurred at 1:30 in the morning, so they're trying to get in touch with anybody who may have lived there but not actually been there to try to figure out exactly how many people it is that they are searching for right now. the operations are under way and will continue throughout the night. joining us now is a structural engineer, kit miyamoto, california seismic safety commissioner. kit, thank you so much for being with us.

i'm wondering just what you make -- first of all, we just had a guest on who said the building had been subsiding in the time frame they were studying it in the 1990s. is that significant? >> yeah, most definitely. well, first of all, this collapse is a classic column failure. which means the building itself was supported by a series of pillars. if the pillars fail, everything fails. that's exactly what looked like that. i've seen failures in earthquake country, hundreds of them like that. now, so the failures of the columns or pillars have potentially three reasons. one is potentially as the professor was talking about, accessible compromise of the column capacity. that's one. two is the potential corrosion of the steel.

as you noticed, this is right next to the ocean, and also the area of clollapse, is the ocean side. so corrosion of the reinforcement will compromise the capacity of column. if the column fails, everything fails, essentially. and the third reason potentially is something that compromised the columns, pillars. highly unlike. those are three potential reasons why this thing collapsed. >> it's interesting that you point out, which i had not realized because i did have a sense that the side that collapsed you're saying was the side that faces the ocean. >> yeah, exactly. usually you see more corrosion in seaside because that's where the salt exposure is higher than the other side. >> an attorney for the condo association had been on scene and saying that they had had an engineer looking at the place and that they had -- in order for the 40-year certification

and that they had a list of things they were going to be working on. how significant is it to find out exactly what it is that that engineer saw or what anybody studying this building saw? because would corrosion -- as the columns gave way, is corrosion like that very visible to the human eye? >> yeah. well, i mean, first of all, it's a 40-year recertification safety by the county in miami. it's one of the best practices in the world, by the way. you don't see that so often. >> these are tough standards that miami-dade county has? >> oh, yeah, most definitely. i think it's a really great practice. now, when you see that the major corrosive things going on in reinforcement, you're going to see the cracks in the concrete. the reason is the rebar gets rusted, so it expands a little bit. the rust itself expands and

pressures the concrete around it and causes cracks. if you suppose concrete, you can see the cracks. you start seeing it, then you know there's something wrong in that reinforcement. yeah, so it's that report by structural engineer, that's a critical one. >> when it's just part of a building collapsing, does that tell you a story? does that tell you something? obviously you talked about it's the side facing the water and that's more likely to have the corrosive effects of salt. but, i mean, say it was partly the settlement of the soil. if only part of the building is settling into the soil, that would obviously cause stresses as well. >> that's right. it's called differential settlement, if a certain area of the building settles more than others, then the column gets pulled in and causes distress there.

but collapse initiate from the right and center, and north side also collapse right after. but again, usually the corrosion doesn't affect uniformly. you can see certain elements structural elements are worse than others because of corrosion and stuff like that. >> for search and rescue teams right now, we talked to the chief there a little bit earlier who said they have structural engineers with them just to keep the site safe. that's got to be an extraordinarily delicate operation? >> most definitely. those search and rescue team, you know, the members are definitely risking their lives. that's an extremely dangerous condition. as you said, structural engineers, they attach to that and ensure, at least reduce the risk of the rescuers.

i was in mexico city earthquake in 2017 assisting the search and rescue team, same thing, to provide safe access to the firefighters getting to the people. now, but there's definitely still hope, though. even the concrete floors collapse each other, usually there's some air gaps caused by the concrete debris and so on. so, you know, as we saw, and i did too in haiti and mexico to nepal to everywhere, when a building collapse happens, in many cases, days after, you can find some people still alive. there's still hope. >> it absolutely happens. i mean, we've seen it. i really appreciate your time. thank you. thanks for your expertise. it was a significant day as well in washington. coming up next, we'll talk about the new bipartisan deal on infrastructure and possibly on police reform and the challenges that remain. senator bernie sanders joins us next on "360." rful long-lasting relief with a revolutionary, rollerball design.

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safer and healthier communities. but it also signals to ourselves and to the world that american democracy can deliver. because of that, it represents an important step forward for our country. >> the package agreed to with the democratic and republican senators, five each, calls for $1.52 trillion, less than half would be new spending of over and above current levels. however, the president also signaled held not sign it on its own, but only if aleccompanied with measures. the senator working on that measure, senate budget committee chairman, bernie sanders. senator sanders, thank you for being with us. i didn't want to say whether you would support it. since then i know the white house released a breakdown of the bill, how it's funded. can you say if you'll support it? >> what i can say is that where the spending is going makes a

lot of sense to me. it's directed toward bridges, roads, water systems, waste water plants, broadband, heavily funded. that's the good news. we need to spend money in that area because our infrastructure is crumbling. on the other hand, some of the pay-fors i have concerned about. but what is most important, anderson, is what is not in that bill, which is why the president said he would not sign that bill unless we move forward with another major piece of legislation under what we call reconciliation, and that is to finally address the long-standing crises facing working families in this country. i think everybody knows people on top are doing well, corporate pockets are soaring, but for the average worker, things are pretty rough. so what we have got to do is now invest in making sure that we have affordable housing in this

country, that we have home health care for an aging population, that we're able to expand medicare so that we finally can cover dental care and hearing aids and eyeglass, that we deal with the crisis in child care where working families cannot afford child care, and that in addition to all of that, it's absolutely imperative that we deal with the -- i would say existential threat to this plant of climate change. when we invest in health care and an education, making higher education affordable, when we transform our energy system, we'll create more good-paying jobs. that's what the president wants, that's what i want, and that's what we'll see. >> he's pointed out that he won't sign this bill unless it's accompanied by this larger package you just talked about. how will that impact the chance

of the bipartisan bill paragraphing? will it convince progressives to vote yes, and might it erode public support? >> i think at the end of the day, my guess is both bills will pass. i just want people to know, because i think there is a lot of alienation, disenchantment on the part of american workers with what goes on in washington. and i think what we are finally doing is listening to the pain of low-income and middle class families and instead of worrying about the rich and powerful, we're going to focus on the needs of working families. and i think what we're looking at in my view, anderson, if we pass what i would like to see us pass, it is probably the most consequential piece of legislation passed since the great depression. >> i don't want to put words in your mouth. you seemed to suggest you would

be able to lower it to $6 trillion but acknowledged of you to work with 49 other members of the democratic caucus. can you say what you're willing to compromise on or what you see this actually coming as? >> for a start, if the bipartisan bill is passed, and that will have, i think, new money, those are pretty much the programs we were going to put into reconciliation. so that's a heck of a lot of money. we're not going to build the same bridge twice. so you can deduct some of that from what we're trying to do. look, what the process, as you well know is about, i got to deal with 49 other people. somebody says you should spend more on this, spend less on that, you know. and my job is to kind of work it all out so that at the end of the day we are dealing with the crises facing working families. for the first time we will finally have paid family and medical leave. we're the only major country on earth where if you have a baby

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saying that he had made, quote, false and misleading statements a new york court today expended the law license of rudy giuliani, the president's former personal attorney. the former mayor of new york city and once-feared government prosecutor. in a ruling after a disciplinary hearing, the court said his statements in defense of the former president, immediately threatens the public interest and warrants interim suspension from the practice of law. he can appeal the decision but disbarment is a possibility. joining is george conway who has vocal in his opposition to the former president. mr. conway, should anyone be surprised this happened? >> no, not at all. because this was a story about completely relentless, representative, incessant,

intentional lying, and we all saw it unfold in real time and the court recorded in its opinion saying this, under the disciplinary rules, under the rules of professional conduct is impermissible. we can't have lawyers lying in their representation of clients, and the court found that giuliani has done both. and i have to say, based on what i saw in this opinion, even though this is only an interim ruling and interim suspension, it's pretty clear that giuliani doesn't have much of a defense and he's entitle today a hearing, but unless he comes up with something, and i don't think he will, we're never -- he's never going to see the inside of a courtroom again other than as a defendant. >> you really believe he'll be disbarred? >> or he'll at least receive a suspension that's long enough that given his advanced age, he's not going to be practicing again. and i don't know, frankly, who would ever retain him given his record. >> giuliani said tonight on another channel, quote, there's

no doubt if i was representing hillary clinton i'd be their hero. i represented my clients so effectively that they're trying to get me to shut up, end quote. you're not allowed to represent your client and lie brazenly, are you? >> that's exactly the point. it isn't about who he was representing. this was about the line, the incessant lying, saying that thousands of people voted in georgia, dead people voted in georgia, and, in fact, only two were found voted that way. and saying that thousands of underaged voters in georgia voted, in fact, there was a full audit in georgia and it was found that zero people had voted. he lied to a court about the claims that were actually being litigated in the court. his client -- the campaign withdrew its claims of fraud, and yet giuliani stood up before a federal judge and said we're asserting these claims of fraud

and his cocounsel had to stand up and say no, we're not. he lied to courts and the public and in the context of how important and how significant and the poison, the poisonous effect of these lies, the court said it had no choice but to suspend him even before having a full hearing. >> do you know much about his business? will this affect his bottom line? i don't know if giuliani and associates is still around, but he used to -- which was sort of consulting, lobbying, i'm not sure exactly -- i think they did a wide range of security related and other services. >> i don't know that he's got that business going anymore. i mean, from everything i read, he seems hard up for money after a costly divorce. i can't imagine anybody's going to be hiring him for anything. he just came off last year not only just with the dishonesty but the world's worst lawyer.

his main client was president of the united states, and other than donald trump himself, no person on this planet did more to cause donald trump to be impeached not once, but twice, than rudy giuliani. remember, it was rudy giuliani running around ukraine trying to get the ukrainian government to conduct and remember, it was, of course, rudy giuliani who pushed these ridiculous claims of fraud and stood at that podium on that platform at the ellipse on january 6th at that stop the steal rally saying we need to have trial by combat to determine whether the president of the united states lost the election. it's incredible. it's conduct unbecoming a lawyer. >> it's like a fever dream when you say it. >> it's -- it's nuts. it's nuts. i think his best defense would be some kind of an insanity defense. >> today is the 35th anniversary to the day that roy cohn, the

disgraced attorney for mccarthy was disbarred by the state of new york. actually an attorney that used to work with roy cohn was my mom's attorney and she did her -- and she got him disbarred as well. his name is tom andrews, he's dead now. but how eerie and satisfying is that coincidence? it's one of those fascinating historical coincidences. >> it is one of those fascinating things. there are incredible similarities. roy cohn was a very talented man but a very, very dishonest man and that's why he was disbarred. he was also one of donald trump's favorite lawyers. >> yeah. >> and donald trump, remember, when he was -- he was mad at jeff sessions for being ineffectual for his view attorney general and said where is my roy cohn? roy cohn was the model attorney to donald trump and look where it got him. >> george conway, appreciate your time tonight.

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more now on our breaking news from florida. as you heard earlier in the program, officials say they're working around the clock to rescue any survivors from that apartment building collapse. these are new aerials giving you a sense of the scale of this and the difficulty of operating at night. these are live pictures. there have been some dramatic rescues, most overnight. most notably a boy lifted to safety by first responders. nicholas balboa happened to be passing by and helped rescue the boy. nicholas joins me now. you were walking your dog overnight and felt the ground shake. tell us what happened then.

>> well, first, anderson, let me say it's an honor to be on your show. i appreciate you taking the time to have me. yeah, this morning i'm here visiting from phoenix. my father and my family. so i was walking my dog this morning. but at first felt the ground shake and what sounded like thunder. i thought honestly like a storm was rolling in. we've had storms all week. but about 30 seconds to about a minute later it happened again but a lot more pronounced as the rest of the building collapsed. so i brought my dog back upstairs to the apartment, came back down and sought other individuals that were starting to come out to the street to see what happened. so we made our way down to the building. i could see that some of the balconies had fallen, some of the debris but it wasn't quite clear. fire crews showed up, emergency services. they started making a perimeter,

pushing us all back. it was at that time i went north and went around one of the other apartment buildings to the back side of the buildings along the beach and was walking along till i could get to a better -- a better spot to see kind of what happened. i could see that literally the entire building had fallen, had just sheared and split off. >> and you heard someone under the rubble, actually saw fingers wiggling, is that right? >> yeah, it was eerie back there, it was silent, quiet. there was no fire, there were no police. there was nobody back there except for just a handful of people. so i went to take a closer look. as i got close to the building i could hear it sounded like somebody yelling. i went to go investigate and it became more and more clear the words i could understand and it

was somebody saying "i'm here, i'm here, can you see me?" and i saw little fingers through the rubble. >> that's incredible. and you led rescuers to him? >> i did. i tried to make my way up to him. i was wearing flip-flops at the time so i wasn't equipped to make the climb but i got close enough to see him and let him know that we were there and that we were going to get him out. >> so you were talking to him while he was still in the rubble. >> correct. >> how was his voice sounding? he must have been terrified. >> absolutely. from what i could tell because the debris that was around him was a bed frame and a mattress, so i imagine that that might have been his bed possibly. he was in his pjs. so he was -- he might have been asleep and literally the apartment gave way and down they went. he told me it was him and his mother in the apartment and i could see him but i couldn't see

his mother or hear her. and at this time from what i gathered from the crews and stuff like that, they still haven't been able to find her yet. >> so he didn't know where his father was or how she was? >> no. >> how old was he, do you know? >> he's 10 years old. >> wow. >> i mean just an extraordinary thing that even though there's crews there, you go to the back and walking around in your flip-flops and hear this voice. i mean it's an extraordinary, extraordinary moment. thank goodness you were there. >> i guess, you know, the universe works in mysterious ways. here i am all the way from phoenix just at the right place at the right time. we were just there. >> nicholas balboa, i really appreciate you talking to us and thank you for all you did. i really appreciate it. >> thank you for having me. >> that's it for us. we'll continue obviously to follow this ongoing search and

rescue effort. the news continues, let's hand it over to chris for "cuomo prime time." >> we have to be hopeful we hear a lot more stories like that in the hours to come. thank you very much for setting the table. i am chris cuomo and welcome to prime time. it is 9:00 p.m. in surfside, florida. we are in the midst of the agony unknown. we haven't seen anything like this since 9/11. nearly 20 hours since half of a high-rise building went down on top of itself. and we are on the clock here and time is of the essence. nearly 100 people are missing. age ranges varied. families, kids. again, authorities are still tracking down the last known location of those 99 people who are unaccounted for. at least one person has been confirmed dead after this event. 11 so far hurt. look at this as a before and after just to see what we're dealing with here. the building is 12