so here's the breaking news at this hour. there's a desperate search under way right now for survivors who may be trapped in the rubble of a collapsed condo in south florida. at least one person is dead. officials say 99 people are unaccounted for tonight, though it is not known whether all of them were in the building at the time. president biden announcing he has reached a deal with a bipartisan group of senators on a massive infrastructure package worth more than $1 trillion. many hurdles remain, including questions about support at the end of the day from enough republican senators and progressive democrats.

and a bipartisan group of negotiates trying to iron out a policing reform bill saying tonight they're reaching, they've reached an agreement on a framework. but a lot of work needs to be done on that as well and they continue talking over the next few weeks. let's talk about this devastating apartment complex building collapse, a few miles north of miami beach. you see him there on your screen, we'll talk to him in just a moment. 99 people are unaccounted for tonight. charles kessel, commissioner of surfside, florida. thank you for joining us. we have a video of the collapse up on the screen. i can only imagine how painful it is, speaking with families with loved ones still unaccounted for. time is of the utmost importance. are you hopeful about survivors?

>> thank you for this question. it's sad to be meeting under these circumstances. i do have hope. and i think the families of those missing have hope. but realistically, i'm not sure how many or if anyone will be recovered and found alive. it's a tragedy and it's a sad day here in surfside. >> say the last part again. you said you're hopeful but what? >> oh, i said i'm hopeful, but reality is, when we look at the rubble across the street, you know, it's possible that there may not be any survivors, or many. but i remain hopeful. we have to stay hopeful at this time. >> and because the conditions are so awful, so awful. and they're dangerous and difficult, this work is dangerous and difficult for the rescue folks as well. did you want to say something, charles? >> exactly, yes. all day long, i can say, that the support from the county and

our fellow communities in miami-dade county has been remarkable. fire and rescue for miami-dade has been standing by most of the day while the situation was assessed, because the part of the building still standing is in doubt. it's always been a concern and it's hindered any rescue or search effort. we want everyone to stay safe who is in the recovery and certainly those re scuers acros the street. >> can you talk to me about the equipment you're using and what your plan is, the special equipment assets on site to find the survivors and keep the rescuers safe in the rubble, can you talk to us about that, charles? >> i'm not privy to that specific information. that's made at the office of emergency management, miami-dade fire and rescue. and i have my trust and faith in them. i've worked with them as the

liaison via the covid task force here in the town of surfside, which we established to deal with covid. and i have nothing but faith in them. and in terms of the equipment that they're using and their decisions on whether or not the structure is sound enough to continue the search effort that they're doing now. >> okay. there's incredible video we have up on the screen that we're looking at, it is extremely challenging, as i said, extremely dangerous for these rescue and recovery teams. let me ask you, and hopefully you can answer this, maybe it's not in your purview but i'll ask anyway, i understand this building was under scrutiny, charles, because it was going through a w40-year recertification. "the new york times" reports the building was about to undergo extensive repairs for rusted steel, damaged concrete. do you know anything about that,

do you think it has anything to do with this? >> well, yes, sir, i do. if anything, that's what really makes me quite upset and angry, that this catastrophe could happen, because there have been many engineers in this building for the 40-year recertification. and it's been under scrutiny. and while i am familiar with an assessment that was made as part of the plan to go forward for the next 40 years, there has been no indication that the building is unsound or in any way, let alone at risk of a catastrophic collapse like this. so that's what's mysterious to me. and i think that's what needs to be solved. and i know it's a methodical process to determine the cause of this collapse. but at one level, time is of the essence, because if there is

something unknown about something missing in the inspection process, in the structural engineering process, there is a sister building here and there are many other condominiums along this ocean ridge of miami beach, surfside, bell harbor, that will need to be inspected. if there's something going on with the ground and the natural erosion that's been happening with rising water tables and rising sea levels, then we need to investigate that too. and the science is there to make sure everyone is safe and secure in surfside. >> charles kessel is the surfside commissioner. charles, thank you so much, we appreciate it. >> my pleasure, and thank you for your prayers and your hope. >> absolutely. i want to bring in now the former miami-dade fire chief, dave downey. chief downey, thank you. you've talked before, we've

spoken under some other, you know, conditions, nothing this bad. good evening to you, thank you. >> thanks for having me. >> 99 people run acare unaccounr tonight. what's being done to find the people still trapped in the rubble? >> there's established process for any type of collapse search and rescue. early on, as we saw, those victims that were lightly trapped were removed, the surface victims. then we brought in the technical search personnel, highly trained, highly experienced personnel. their team members, miami-dade sponsors one of the 28 national urban search and rescue teams, so they're right here locally. and they are now engaged in what we call the void search. so what they're doing is systematically going across the rubble pile, looking for any indication of life.

they'll use k9s, they'll use search cameras they can put into small spaces. they'll use listening devices. anything available to them to try to locate any survivors. and they're going to do this as a step by step process. many of the people, you know, see this collapse and they say, why aren't the big, heavy equipment out there, why aren't the cranes out there? first and foremost, we don't want to disturb this rubble. we have part of a building that hasn't collapsed, that's unsupported. there's a lot of debris hanging off of the unsupported building. and so the rescuers are in tremendous danger in some of the areas that they're working. so it has to be a very methodical process to go through this search. >> chief, there are structural engineers embedded with these rescue teams, but you're talking about why you're not bringing out the heavy equipment and how tenuous it is, because this stuff is -- you know, one thing

is resting on top of something which is not secure which is resting on something else which is not so secure. what are you doing to make sure these teams are okay, and just how dangerous is it for these first responders? >> it's certainly a dangerous situation. the rescuers, you know, assess the risk. they rely heavily on their training, their experience, and these structural engineers who are very experienced in these types of structural collapses. they're the ones that are going to tell us it's a go, it's a no-go, or you need to stabilize the area before you can move in. they're constantly monitoring the building for the slightest movement that would indicate that there's a potential for another collapse. >> chief downey, thank you so much. i appreciate it. i'm sure we'll have you back on cnn. but you guys be well. we're thinking about you. thanks so much. >> thanks for having me. this shows you just how important it is to have

buildings be secure, our infrastructure secure, even though this is a building that people lived in, it doesn't really have much to do with the government, but it sort of brings home what can happen if you let these things, possibly, in this case, go too long without being recertified and so forth. let's turn now to that bipartisan breakthrough for the biden administration on infrastructure and police reform as well. jon afvlon and alice stewart, i'll say from the onset, our prayers are with the folks and the families of people who may be trapped there, so let's discuss this as we're thinking about the folks in florida. good evening. jon, a bipartisan deal for infrastructure and a framework for a deal on bipartisan police reform. there's a long way to go before this crosses the finish line, but is biden's bet on

bipartisanship paying off at this point? >> looks like it. he took a lot of heat that folks were skeptical or cynical that this was even possible. but biden put his faith in the ability of people to reason together and his years in the senate. during the obama years, mcconnell and co. blocked a $60 billion infrastructure bill from president obama. so this is a very big deal, even if it's less total dollars than a lot of democrats might wish. it is evidence that after all the promises of infrastructure week we heard over and over again from donald trump, that maybe joe biden and a centrist group of senators can get it done. that's a big deal. >> well, here's the thing. let's be practical about this. i'm sure democrats in the progressive wing of the democratic party would like to have a whole lot more money, maybe they're banking on the next round to get more money.

but when you're negotiating, you have to compromise, you don't get everything you want, and after you negotiate, you negotiate a little bit more, you develop confidence with people. let's hope that's the atmosphere that will start to spread itself around washington, d.c. i'm hopeful. who knows. >> i think so too. i agree with jon and i'm sure you agree as well. >> alice, i can hear all the folks out there going, oh, right, don, that will never happen. >> it's nice to have an infrastructure week actually last more than five minutes. look, the president said it today and everyone will agree, bipartisanship is the way to move forward and the way to make progress in washington, d.c. and it's been so refreshing to see the give and take and the back and forth by democrats and republicans and this president. and while bipartisanship is the path forward, bait and switch is a path to stalemate. the problem we had today, we had a tremendous victory when we

said we have a deal on infrastructure. but when the president and the gang of ten came out and spiked the football and two hours later we hear they have moved the goalposts, it's really not a victory. when we have that contingent on a progressive wish list, i see it being very difficult to move forward with this successful infrastructure package if there's going to be that companion bill that progressives want to be attached with it. >> they said they had a deal, so let's see. who knows? this is a first step. i want to play this, though, alice, the former vice president, mike pence, pushing back on criticism that he didn't go along with attempts to overturn the 2020 election. this is what he said at the ronald reagan institute tonight. here he is. >> the truth is, there's almost no idea more un-american than the notion that any one person could choose the american president. the presidency belongs to the american people and the american

people alone. [ applause ] and i will always be proud that we did our part. on that tragic day, to reconvene the congress, and fulfilled our duty under the constitution and the laws of the united states. now, i understand the disappointment many feel about the last election. i can relate. i was on the ballot. but, you know, there's more at stake than our party and our political fortunes. in this moment, if we lose faith in the constitution, we won't just lose elections. we'll lose our country.

>> wow. that's quite a statement from the vice president. the truth is powerful, alice. >> it certainly is. that was a very delicate line for him to walk with regard to making that a bold statement, without going too far and really standing up against the former president. but i think what's really important is you have to give mike pence credit for the january 6th action that he took. as president of the senate, when he was being requested by the former president to stop the certification of the election, and mike pence said i can't do that, i'm not going to do that, my role is to preside and not change the outcome of these elections. and so i applaud him for that. but i think the most important thing, what he said, is not only do we need to stand by our constitution, we need to stand by the integrity of our elections, and that's what needs

to be translated across the board. >> last word, quickly, please, jon, if you will. >> there can be no compromise with lies. this is as close as he's come to actually speaking clearly on the subject. you shouldn't have to walk a line. i understand the politics of it. but what he said was right. he should say it consistently and loudly and sooner, because it's important. >> thank you both, i appreciate it. see you soon. it's all anybody's talking about, the gop outrage machine in high gear over critical race theory. and wait 'til you hear who is piling on over the latest big lie. ious scramble was microwaved? get outta here. everybody's a skeptic. wright brothers? more like, yeah right, brothers! get outta here! it's not crazy. it's a scramble. just crack an egg.

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kindergarten to be ashamed of their skin color. it represents a full-throated assault aimed at the heart of the american experiment. and it's nothing short of state-sponsored and state-sanctioned racism. our party must ensure that critical race theory is expelled from our schools, our military, and our public institutions. >> and they just can't help themselves. okay. let me say this. and tell everyone you know. put it on the internet. what he just said is not true. critical race theory isn't being taught to kindergarteners. it is something law students study. unless you have, you know, kindergarteners in law school. it's not about shaming white people.

critical race theory is a legal theory that has to do with systemic racism. again, law schools, not kindergarteners. that is a bald-faced lie, an outright lie. joining me now, cnn political commentator amanda carpenter. i guess you would call that gaslighting, right? >> yeah, there's a lot going on with this. i think the first thing for people to understand is that the in the post-whatever this post-trump-ish era is, this is a massive political media and activist infrastructure that needs things to get mad about, to get people to fund raise after. that's where you're seeing all this flash in the pan culture war stuff which got really hot than goes away really fast. you saw that with the campaign

against dr. fauci, the lockdowns. >> dr. seuss. antifa was at january 6th. people are flipping out, crashing school board meetings, amanda, even getting arrested over critical race theory, and it's all based on these lies that you just heard mike pence pushing. why is this new right wing obsession so successful in revving people up? it's almost like the insurrection at school board meetings, right? this isn't just trump supporters. >> because it has to do with kids. when you push that -- >> and they're trying to win back the suburbs, is that what's happening? >> absolutely. steve bannon thinks this can be the tea party to the tenth degree or something like that. and i do think there's a point to that, groups like the heritage foundation can talk to people in the suburbs, get them organized and activated extremely quickly and go out to these school boards and crash these meetings much like the tea

party people did in 2009 when they show up to these candidates and elected official. i think this one is a little different. yes, people get animated quickly because it does have to do with children. people think their kids are being indoctrinated, being taught things they don't understand and don't like. but you know what people also don't like? their schools becoming a hostile zone. the idea of sending your kids to a place where parents are fighting. the pictures coming out of the county last night where somebody was arrested, he had his shirt off, his face was bloodied, the state police had to be called in. i don't know how that's a net win for the republican voters. but maybe people like steve bannon are telling people that. mike pence, i was fairly alarmed with what i just heard when he's talking about state-sanctioned racism, that is hot, hot language. >> and it's going to go on for a bit. amanda, unfortunately i have to run, there's so much more to

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podcast. he's on the record now apologizing for how he treated the pop star in the past. perez, thank you for joining. it takes a big person to apologize. you say you carry deep shame and regret knowing you contributed to her pain. there's no two ways about it, you were a bully, perez, you've been open about the fact that you said -- what you said and did, it was some very mean thing. you were known for scribbling nasty things on photos. why did you say those things about her and what has changed since then? >> i said those things for attention. and at the time i didn't care if it hurt britney spears. how cruel is that? i now realize there are way more important things than just getting attention, and you can do that in other ways, ways that aren't nasty, mean, cruel,

hurtful or bullying. the thing that hurts me the most is, at the time i knew what i was doing was wrong. it's like a drug addict who might steal from a loved one or just does something that they know they shouldn't do but they do it anyways. and that's something i will carry with me forever. >> so you've apologized. i'm not sure if you can call it directly, because you haven't -- >> i have as well. i've apologized privately to britney spears. last year was very challenging for all of us. and i went through a severe depression which led me to do a lot of soul-searching. i reached out privately last year to many people from my past, celebrities and noncelebrities, that i also thought i should apologize to and britney spears was one of those. i know people very close to britney, and that person told me that they sent her and she saw

my private email to her. and they didn't reply back with if she had a response to me or not. they just said, i showed her your email. >> what did you say, perez? >> how deeply sorry i was. i don't remember everything i said in it. i thanked for her for graciousness in the past because after everything that i had done during those very turbulent years in her life, she asked me to be a part of her circus tour. i was in the opening montage. then she was equally kind and gracious when i went to her las vegas residency, she invited me up on stage and put me in one of her bits. that goes to show you that she is just so -- i don't want to say forgiving because that's for her to speak on. >> she's a bigger person than you at the time. >> yes. >> let's get into what she said. britney spoke out against what

she describes as an abusive conservatorship. she said, my precious body has worked for my dad for the past f-ing 13 years. and, she explains, being afraid to speak out because she thought no one would believer her. she said, i've never said it openly and mainly i didn't think to say it openly because i honestly don't think anyone would believe me. to be honest with you, the paris hilton story on what they did at that school, that's why i didn't want to say in this, people would make fun of me or laugh at me and say she's lying. so she said the last time that she spoke to the judge, that she felt like she was dead, that she didn't matter. is she right? why do you think her voice was ignored all this time? >> people dismissed her.

you know, they -- the judge said -- i don't want to speak for the judge, i'm not sure, but it's really frustrating because we're in 2021 now, and two years ago, britney previously went to this same judge asking to make changes to the conservatorship. even last year, once again, asking to make more changes to have her father removed completely, and that wish was not granted. there is another court hearing scheduled for next month. it's my sincere hope that britney's able to live her own life now, and enjoy it however she wants, mistakes or not. she says that she's traumatized, that every day she cries. she wants to have another child but this conservatorship has control over her body, forcing her to use this contraceptive device that won't allow that to happen. that does not seem like a way to live to me. >> you are a celebrity blogger

and a reporter on the entertainment industry. do you think others owe an apology to her like justin timberlake, personally? >> i think the world owes an apology to britney spears. i'm not here playing a victim. i will call out that, you know, since the court appearance on wednesday, i've been getting so much -- more than hate, i've been having people daily, hourly, and every minute tell me to kill myself, saying i look disgusting and the most awful things. and it's very hypocritical of those people to bully me for my past bullying behavior. and everybody who took part in the past, i think we're all to blame. the world, the legal system, her family, her manager, everybody failed britney spears. >> listen, this was earlier, justin put out something after this, but earlier in the year,

we saw that britney spears -- he apologized to her and janet jackson as well. but man, britney, it's a lot. i think this story, actually, perez, is going to open up a lot of issues that we have with conservatorships, with mental health, the way we look at people, how we treat people, with the entertainment industry, how people report on it. and quite frankly with the legal system and judges as well. thank you. >> britney said that herself, she said the concept of conservatorships, that there's so many people under them being abused. so i think like we've seen with paris hilton, we might see britney become an advocate for others that have experienced what she has. >> thank you, perez, i appreciate it. >> thank you. possible breakthrough on police reform, negotiators in congress say they've reached the frame for an agreement.

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so congressional negotiators have reached a framework agreement for policing reform with talks continuing over the next few weeks. but key negotiators tell cnn they still have a long way to go to get a final deal. the months-long negotiation happening as president joe biden is addressing a nationwide spike in crime. let's discuss with sondra samuels, president of a nonprofit that works with thousands of families in the most underserved communities across minneapolis. i'm so glad you're here, thank

you for joining us. so listen. amid this crime spike across the country, including minneapolis, there's a big split in the country on what to do to reform policing. some are saying defund. some are saying that we need more police officers. you say you fall somewhere in the middle. so what's your solution? >> that's so good. first of all, i have to say, i'm talking to don lemon! hey, don. >> how are you, sondra. >> so excited. i'm doing great, thank you. don, yeah, so i am in the middle and we need some middle of the road people, because we have people on two extremes. and it's all -- and by the way, nobody is an enemy of mine, i'm not a hater, but we have extremes because we are in a country that is a mess right now, okay? we don't even what to do, in terms of policing, in terms of so many areas of discrimination. and so you have the far right and the far left. and the far left is defund, get

rid of, demolish, dismantle. and on the far right you have, our police officers are so great, how can anybody say anything bad about 'em. and then, don, there are people like me who are right in the middle who are demanding, demanding radical reform of our broken police system. but also understanding that we have to have a both/and approach. every police officer is not officer chauvin. i live in one of the most high crime neighborhoods in minneapolis, north minneapolis. i can't live here without police. so we need radical reform. we need the social support, don, and more than social supports, we need to get at the discrimination and racism in education and housing and health. >> let me ask you this. this goes to what you're saying. the gunshot victims in

minneapolis are up 123% from this time last year. there are fewer cops on the street. you sued the city for failing to keep its residents safe. who is hurting the most here? >> convey, so i was going to say the "and" is, we have to have sufficient staffing levels. i'm not talking about more cops. i'm talking about just sufficient staffing for a city that has 422,000 residents. and so yes, don, to your point, around who is getting hurt, yes, shooting victims are up. shootings are up just astronomically. we've had 288 this time this year. last time this year, 179. and here is the crux of it, getting at what you just asked. black lives matter. when george floyd was murdered, don, we all know that, you know, that was the tip of the racist ice iceberg. there is an iceberg.

that's not the only racism in terms of policing. under the iceberg, so many other things. anyway, that catapulted this movement in earnest, right? it was really leading up to that. but brother george really took us over the edge, around all black lives matter. so the very people we want to probate from the police are the ones who are being most harmed by this defund rhetoric, right? and the demonization of all police officers. >> i've got to run. >> and saying we don't need them. so that's where we are. we're getting hurt the most. >> i agree with you. listen, we need police reform, no doubt, but we also need police. thank you very much, sondra, it's a pleasure meeting you. >> you too, don. we'll be right back.

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wonderful writers. by that, i mean people who use the language beautifully and elegantly, which was almost the direct opposite of jackie. >> is it exhausting? >> what? >> doing research for your books? >> joining us, now, is jackie collins' daughter tiffany. tiffany, thank you so much. i mean, huge fan of your mom. i'm so grateful that you're doing this. she was a superstar. she's glamorous. she's sexy, sophisticated, influential. you must get asked, all the time, but what was it like having jackie collins as a mom? >> i do, don. i do get asked, all the time. and it's funny, because people are always surprised by my answer. i always tell them, it was very normal. we -- we had a completely normal upbringing. there were no chauffeurs. there was no cooks. there were no full-time staff. she was just completely present, full of love, full of laughter,

in our lives. she would wake up. every morning, she would make us breakfast. she would drive us to school. she would go home. she would work, all day. and then, at pick-up time, she'd come and pick us up. make us dinner. i mean, she was completely present. and everybody's so surprised to hear that because they see this -- this glitz and this glamour. and that was the jackie collins' persona. but the mother, at home, was completely different. >> well, and it's interesting, because she considered herself a feminist, and correct me if i'm wrong, but critics often dismissed her and her books. what did she teach you about a woman's place, in the world? >> well, like i say in the movie, her motto was, girls can do anything. and she saw, from a very early age, the double standard in her own household. also, in hollywood as she, you know, tried to be an actress early on, before she became an author. and she didn't like what she saw. she was so ahead of her time because she -- she knew there was something wrong with it. she didn't understand why women couldn't be as equal as men. and so, that's what came into

her writing. that's what she wrote about. she wrote about these strong-female characters. and she taught my sisters and i to be strong, too, which is a great lesson to have learned from her. >> tiffany, thank you, so much. i really appreciate it. best of luck to you. thank you, thank you. be sure to tune in. the all new cnn film. it's called "lady boss: the jackie collins story" premieres sunday at 9:00 p.m. only on cnn. we'll be right back. people everywhere living with type 2 diabetes are waking up to what's possible with rybelsus®. ♪ you are my sunshine ♪ ♪ my only sunshine... ♪ rybelsus® works differently than any other diabetes pill

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