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this was handled, at the governmental level. and the doj can, either, bring -- >> i -- i think that's right. >> -- bring down organizers. or show that there were things that were known, that were ignored, that point to a bigger-activity ring. and that, that has to approximatbe looked at, as well. we will see, and we will bring you in all along the way. andrew mccabe, thank you very much, appreciate ya. we'll be right back. >> thanks, chris. i'm searching for info on options trading, and look, it feels like i'm just wasting time.
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your mother loved this park. ♪ she did. we are going to keep watching and following the developments in florida. there is plenty of reason for hope. we have seen amazing things happen, over time. once this delicate work starts going, it takes time. this is not easy. it's dangerous. thank you for watching. don lemon is going to pick up the coverage, with "don lemon tonight," right now. >> in the meantime, for families, it's watching and waiting and agony. but as you said, chris, at this point, we should be optimistic.
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there's -- a long time has not gone by, where people can, still, be okay. they can be beneath -- there's air pockets, and so on. so i -- i remain optimistic, at this point. but, for those families, the family members watching and waiting, 99 people still unaccounted for. wow. >> yeah. and that's an interesting number, right? because we don't know that those are people that, for sure, were all in the building. >> uh-huh. >> maybe, they weren't in the building. there could be other people who are in the building, who weren't registered as such. you know, there is a very transient place. people come, they visit, they leave. you know, especially in this area of florida. but this is, still, early on. in fact, it is very rare that i've covered these situations where you don't have people -- >> exactly. >> -- get pulled out. now, that said, i have not seen anything like this in america, before, since 9/11, which was a much more complicated situation. but it is the last time i have seen a large number of people waiting with the agony of the unknown. and watching the first responders rush in.
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and seeing the clergy come onsite and support them, and support the difficulty of their own angst of wanting to find people. and all of these different families worried about suffering the same fate. these are -- these are hard moments. >> yeah. listen. this is not public accommodations or this is not roads and bridges but it shows the importance of taking care of structures. and making sure that they are up to code and up to par. and i say that, because, you know, we had this deal on infrastructure. so we are watching a lot, chris, i'm going to let you go and i will get to the breaking news. i will see ya, brother. thank you very much. i love you as well. this is d"don lemon tonight." we have another busy night of news on multiple stories. and as chris and i were just talking about, breaking news, the devastating scene down in florida as rescuers are desperately searching nonstop, right now. if you just look at these pictures. they are searching through the night for survivors of the -- of this deadly-condo collapse. surfside, florida, to be specific. just a few miles north of miami beach. at least one person is confirmed dead.
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99 people, still, unaccounted for. though, it is not known, whether all of them were in the building, at the time. the mayor of miami-dade county is saying this, tonight. >> our firefighters, men, and women, are working around the clock. a huge-task force of people, that are continuing there right now. working. they're going to work all through the night. the dogs. they're working in the garage. they're working on the top, so they're visible right now. but they are -- they are proceeding with -- with all of their might. >> we are standing by for any news, and we are going to bring it to you in this broadcast. you know, one fire official, telling cnn that rescuers are working in 15-minute shifts. they're carrying 80-pounds worth of gear, protective equipment, and concrete saws, that have to be used manual because of the
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unstable building. it's a tenuous, tenuous situation that they're in there. at least 37 people have been pulled out of that rubble. it's been about-21 hours since the collapse. hundreds of people, asleep, in their beds, when that building went down. no warning. no warning. no warning. still, no word on the cause. we are going to go, live, to the scene, in just a few moments, and get the very latest update there. so, make sure you stay -- stay with us for that. as i was telling chris, as well. we have some news coming out of washington, d.c., tonight. president joe biden. his big bet on bipartisanship really paying off, with the announcement today, that he, a group of senators, bipartisan senators, five democrats, five republicans, agreed to the framework of an infrastructure package totaling more than $1.2 trillion over eight years. there is, still, a long way to go, to get this across the finish line but i want you to listen to what the president, just last week, on his overseas trip, what he said. he was talking about how democracy can survive and thrive
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here, at home, by delivering for the american people. here it is. >> i pointed out, we have to prove to the world and to our own people that democracy can, still, prevail against the challenges of our time. and deliver for the needs of our people. >> well, today, president biden saying this is a victory for his agenda and for democracy. >> one of the underlying questions is can democracies compete with autocratic enterprises, in the 21st century? and this is a big move toward that. being able to compete. this deal means millions of good-paying jobs. and fewer burdens felt at the kitchen table and across the country, and safer and healthier communities. but it, also, signals, to ourselves and to the world, that american democracy can deliver. and because of that, it represents an important step forward for our country. >> you know what was absolutely lost on no one?
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that today's big victory was on infrastructure, right? after years of jokes about infrastructure weeks gone bad. i don't know how many infrastructure weeks we had during the last administration. nothing ever came of it. though, the president, apparently, blew off the first line someone wrote for his announcement today. you see it there. it's highlighted. welcome to infrastructure week. what's ironic, that it is president joe biden who made this deal, and not the guy who thought he was such a great dealmaker. great negotiator. great dealmaker. he wrote the book on that, right? well, he claimed to write that book. we know the truth. he didn't really write it. and in the face of what could be genuine progress on some of the biggest issues facing this country, some, in the gop, are determined to keep revving up that old-outrage machine. this time, with critical-race theory. using it to stoke outrage in schools all across the country. where, it seems, like, it's all anybody is talking about and, well, yelling about. >> shame on you! shame on you!
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shame on you! >> the outrage. the yelling. spreading in congress, today, where someone shouted "racist" at a gop congressman. his name is bob good. while he argued with education secretary miguel cardona over critical-race theory. >> i have confidence in our educators across the country to get it right. and i think this has become -- >> so -- so, you will not challenge it legally? >> i think this has become more politicized than it is about programming. >> okay. i'm going to move on, please. thank you, sir. my home state of virginia, unfortunately, has embraced the biden administration's and the department of education's policies here. and it's proof that that causes all kind of issues. you can just see, this past week, in virginia's loudoun county, one of the largest counties in virginia. the board of education there, rather than face parental criticism, they shut down public comment. they adjourned the meeting and they actually called the police to come in, and arrest parents
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who had gathered or expressed their grievances with government and local-school officials. i -- i hope that you will not nationalize the culture war that started in virginia and -- and bankrupt critical-race theory with hard-earned taxpayer dollars. >> okay. so, listen. you've heard me talk about -- talk to expert, after expert, night after night after night, on this show. critical-race theory is not being taught in grade schools. i will say it, again. critical-race theory is not being taught in grade schools. it's not about hating white people. it's not about studying the fact that, you know, that's right. it is about studying -- excuse me -- it is about studying the fact -- that's right -- the fact that systemic racism is part of american society. and challenging the beliefs that allow it to continue to flourish. but, the fact that so many republicans just keep stoking that outrage, even though their -- their claims have been debunked, over and over and over, again.
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again, it is not being taught in grade schools. so, even though, over and over, again, republicans have this outrage. it's got to make you wonder, whether this is a grassroots movement? or it's a cynical game? hello, everyone? uh, we're losing the suburbs. centrist moms and dads, families, we got to do something to get 'em back from the democrats. let's come up with this critical-race theory thing so we can get them all outraged about their kids, about something that is not even happening with their kids but we can pretend. and they will get all upset about it because they won't read about it and we'll just come up with a name for it. a scary name. that's exactly what's happening. and all of the right-wing propaganda networks. they're doing it because, what? they're a political arm of the republican party. actually, the trump and the republican party. the trump party. the republican party. so you have this echo chamber of misinformation about critical-race theory that's not,
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actually, even being taught. it's another, big lie, just like the whole lie about election fraud. and a stolen election. none of it is true. the critical-race theory thing is not true. yet, they are -- they -- same thing they did with january 6th. stoking people's anger and fear. and then, they're all outraged, all around the country, at these school-board meetings, for no reason because their kids are not being taught critical-race theory. over at the fox-propaganda network. that's happening but over at the fox-propaganda network, mitch mcconnell would have you believe there is no need for the house select committee announced by nancy pelosi today to investigate january 6th. his reason? well, i'll let him tell you. >> nobody's going to get away with anything. and all of those who participated are gonna be punished. >> well, i think, at least one guy who got away with something. can you think of him? i can.
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the guy, mcconnell voted to acquit in his second-impeachment trial, just a month after the insurrection. and then, there's that guy's former-personal lawyer. rudy giuliani. was suspended, today, from practicing law in new york state, over what an appellate court called demonstrably false and misleading statements about the 2020 election. and that, really, shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone who heard him saying things, like this. >> they only submitted 8,021 ballots from dead people. mail-in ballots for dead people. probably, easier for dead people to submit mail-in ballots than it is to vote in person. >> that piece of misinformation got him in trouble, got him suspended. or what about this? at the infamous four-seasons pressor. remember? the one at the landscapers, not the fancy hotel? >> we cannot allow these crooks, because that's what they are, to
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steal an election from the american people. >> yeah. i forgot about the bronzer or the hair dye or whatever dripping. wow. that was -- that brings back memories. or this. this was on january 6th. >> let's have trial by combat. >> well, for now, anyway, the former president's former lawyer won't be representing anybody. which just shows you how big that big lie was. the big lie we're, still, living under the shadow of today. perhaps, there will be consequences for the big lie of critical-race theory that's not even being taught to children. we'll see. let's get to the breaking news, though. i want to get to surfside, florida, where rescuers are searching all night for survivors of the condo collapse. and joining me, now, surfside mayor, charles burkett. mayor, i am so happy that you are here. thank you so much. absolutely devastating. i am so sorry for what is going on. i know it's a busy time for you.
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it is a race to find survivors so, please, give us the latest on the search and the rescue efforts. >> it -- that's all we're doing. we're -- we're just searching, 24 hours a day, and we are pulling as many people out as we can. that's the whole goal right now. nothing else matters. >> yeah. are you hopeful more survivors will be rescued, at this point? because it's been 21 hours. but still, enough time -- there hasn't been a lot of time that has passed. there could still be survivors. >> absolutely. we -- we're not giving up. we're, absolutely -- that is the one thing we're not doing. we've got hundreds of people at our community center. this is like a missing airplane. they want to know where their loved ones are, and we have a duty to make sure that we do everything, in our power, to find them. we have got the resources. we have no problem with resources. we just have a problem with some luck. we need a little more luck. >> amen. so, firefighters have heard sounds? sounds, like people banging.
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are those noises, still, being heard, mayor? >> we -- we -- you know, listen. i was out there, 2:00, this morning. we got the dogs out there at 4:00. we did have a couple hits. we've had hits during the day. we pulled a little boy out. we pulled his mother out, i think. it -- it's -- it's very touch and go. it's raining, now, which complicates the issue. and that -- that is upsetting me, because it's going to, inevitably, slow down the process. but we are not gonna stop. we have seven-to-seven crews and at 7:00, we will get a new crew and we will just keep going. >> you previously mentioned that there is a sister building, about a block away. is there a concern that the surrounding areas are still in danger? >> you know, in united states, buildings just don't fall down like this. and there's a reason for that. and we've got to get to the reason, and we've got to understand what happened here, because this is not normal.
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but today's not the day for that. today's the day to try to save as many people as we can. there will be a time for that. and as soon as that time comes, we will be on that, like you can't believe. >> yeah. >> so, right now, we're just -- our job is -- is getting people out of there, if we can. >> yeah. i want to talk to you about this coordination. the coordination effort that you talked about, between local, state, and federal authorities. can you talk to us, more, about that? what do you have going on there? >> yeah. it's -- it's been amazing. we've had -- we've had a call from the white house. i i've had calls from both of our united states senators. they have -- senator rubio has been here. governor desantis has been here. debbie wasserman schultz has been here and she's been incredible. we've had our county mayor, mayor cava, who has -- has drowned us in resources here. we just have so many resources, it's unbelievable. all we need to do is get lucky, and start finding as many people as possible.
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so, we've got the commitments. we've got the backing. we've got the resources. we've got everything we need. we just need that luck. >> is it so weird that just one portion of this building collapsed. and you said, look, now is the time for rescuing. the cause, we'll get to. and i think, you're exactly right on that. and that's what you are devoting your time and attention to. you just said -- you also told my colleague, wolf blitzer, earlier, that you are not lacking any resources. you just said you are drowning in resources. but is there anything that your community needs that it's not getting, while you have the attention of people watching? >> no, no. we really just need some prayers and luck. that's all we need because we've got -- you know, we got guys that ran into the building, just like in 9/11. that building was in danger of collapsing but they just ran right in. and they went and they grabbed the few people that were left over, that couldn't walk out on their own and that was amazing. so, there is a major, silver lining to this very, very dark cloud. and those guys will be recognized, when the time is right, as far as i'm concerned. and i have said that to the
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senators. i've said that to the congresswoman and they've, all, agreed that we've got incredible people working on this. and it's -- it's as good as it can be right now. but we're not going to stop. and it's, you know, we just keep going. >> mayor, what do you want -- >> we just keep going, now. with respect to the collapse, you know, you -- you mention the collapse. yes, we -- it's -- it's more than a little bit of the building. it's, probably, about half of the building that we lost. and we just don't understand why. >> yeah. what do you want people to know about the community? and also, family members, as well? because it's probably not just family members there in florida. they could be watching from all over the country. what do you want folks to know? >> that's -- that's -- well, there actually -- i was just on with the -- the president of paraguay who has people in that building and they are arriving tomorrow. so, this is a worldwide situation and it -- it's a catastrophe. so the only thing that we can do is just stay focused. and get as many people out, as -- as possible. and we will not stop looking,
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until we do. that's -- that's our focus. that's all we're going to do. we're just going to focus on -- on bringing people out of that rubble, if we can. nothing else to talk about. >> mayor of surfside. charlie burkett. mayor, thank you so much. again, i know, it's a very trying time for you. we appreciate you joining us. if you get an update, please, come back. all right? we will be talking about this and informing people. thank you so much. thank you. >> pleasure. bye-bye. we have got much more to come from surfside, florida, as rescuers work through the night tonight, trying to find survivors of the condo collapse. um, i'm going to ask an expert what could have caused a tragedy like this. but again, over time, we should find out what happened here. but right now, trying to get those people out. the folks who were in there, that they may have heard tapping or what have you. um, i think that they're -- the mayor is right. their attention and resources should be dedicated and focused, exactly, on that. and, as he said, prayers. send your good thoughts and your prayers to the folks in florida.
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we have been following the breaking news for you here on cnn all day. one person is confirmed dead. 99 others, unaccounted for, while investigators are trying to figure out how this could have happened. let's discuss, now. glen bell. he is the former president of the structural-engineering institute and the director of collaborative reporting for safer structures u.s. glen, thank you for joining. you know, we just had the mayor on. the mayor said, you know, they are focusing on trying to rescue people. which is completely understood. well -- and we could sit here and talk about what could have happened because this building stood for decades. what could have caused this to happen, very simply? >> well, there could be a lot of factors. and it's going to be some time, before we sort it out. we, typically, when doing investigations like this, we are looking at construction issues, design issues, engineering materials, operation-and-maintenance questions, alterations. as you said, the primary question that the investigators
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are going to be focusing on is why did this building stand for 40 years, and then collapse, suddenly, just this morning? you know, why -- what changed? what changed, in the condition of the structure? what changed in loading and other-environmental factors that were impinged on it? we've heard a lot, today, in the news about some of these potential changes. we've heard about deterioration. reinforcing rusting and the concrete. that, certainly, should be looked into. could've been a factor. we heard about settlement of the foundations that, perhaps, could have been a change factor. had there been alterations of the building done, over time? we don't know. was there some, extraordinary load on the structure, recently or at the time of the failure? we don't know that. >> what about gas? >> ga -- an explosion with gas?
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>> yeah. could that have -- >> it -- it's happened in other structures. um, in fact, it happened in a very famous progressive collapse, like this in 1968, a structure in london. there was a gas explosion that caused a progressive collapse like this. >> the reason i am asking is because you see the -- you know, right through the middle. if we can show that video. and i'm sure you -- if you have done this, you probably studied that video to try to figure it out. but if -- if you look at it. i don't know if it's an explosion. you do see something, right about there. where it's, you know, that could be an explosion from the collapse. i don't know. i don't know what happened. i'm just asking questions here. and you see it. you know, you see several, sort of, sparks in the top-left of your screen, behind the building. but i would imagine, if a building collapses like that, there's lots of gas and all kinds of electricity. and -- and things going on. but -- >> absolutely.
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at this point in time, nothing can be ruled out. and what the competent investigators do is create hypotheses. and at the beginning, you have to imagine anything, and everything, that could have happened. and keep turning over, you know, the evidence. and studying and proving, or disproving, different theories until you are down to one. exactly, what happened. it's painstaking work. it takes a long time. >> what do you see, when you look at it? >> the fact that this building stood for 40 years and fell today is going to be the focus of a lot of the investigation. why? >> if you are looking at this video, because that's part of the investigation, is this video. are you seeing anything, in that, glenn? >> i don't -- i don't see the video right now, on my screen. >> but i mean, have you -- have you seen it on the air, or no? >> i have watched lots of videos today. are you referring to the one that shows the collapse? >> the one that shows the explosion. it's from fox sports 640 south florida and it looks like it's some sort of tower cam,
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possibly. but -- >> uh-huh. okay. i don't have that up on my screen right now. >> yeah. >> but certainly, gas explosion is something. it's happened before. it's one of many factors that the investigators will be looking at. >> yeah. >> and i'm sure that nobody has imagined, yet, that need to be thought about and investigated, as well. >> so, what happens, once this search -- because they've got to do the search and rescue, first, obviously. >> exactly. right. >> when that is finished, what happens? what's the focus? >> the investigative teams come in. the first thing they're going to be looking at is the -- the condition of the debris. and you are really focused, in the beginning, in evidence that could disappear. so, after the search-and-rescue operation is done, there is an interest in preserving evidence until you have the information that you need. so the investigators will be very interested in the way that the pancaked parts are lying.
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the way that they're broken. the configuration. it's sort of, like, taking a broken jigsaw puzzle and trying to put back together. and the structure will talk to you. and the trained eye of -- of a good investigator will allow you to imagine what that configuration tells you about how the -- how it initiated. and how it progressed. the failure. >> yeah. >> so there will be a lot. they'll be digging through debris to find details, like, how things were put together? was there deterioration? there will be samples removed. >> i just got -- i just have one very important question for you, before i let you go here. a researcher at the florida national university's institute of environmental -- excuse me -- environment told cnn that a recent study he found in a recent study he found that this condo showed signs of sinking in the '90s. i am wondering if that could be a factor here? but aren't there redundancies built into buildings, in case there is some sinking or whatever? but what do you make -- what do you think of that?
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>> absolutely. it's, certainly, nothing we can rule out but you can't make too much of it, early on. for a couple of reasons. almost every building settles, to some extent. it's just a matter of, you know, the soil picks up load and it starts to strain with that. you expect something. so that, in and of itself, isn't unusual. the other factors to think about is, generally, just a uniform-vertical movement of all the foundations really doesn't stress the building. >> uh-huh. >> it's -- it's the differential movement. it's the shearing motion that causes -- that causes strain. that causes the stress in the structure. so, we really don't know, to the extent there was any settlement, whether it was uniform or whether it was differential. that's really an important factor, as well. and different structures have different tolerances to foundation settlement. more flexible ones can absorb those very well. stiffer ones will have more distress. so, there is a lot to look at when we talk about settlement.
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>> glenn bell, thank you, so much. i appreciate you coming on. thank you. >> happy -- yes, thank you. president biden announcing a bipartisan agreement over infrastructure. but it's not a done deal. will enough senators get onboard to overcome a filibuster? ♪ it's velveeta shells & cheese versus the other guys. ♪ clearly, velveeta melts creamier.
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a major-bipartisan agreement on infrastructure is one step closer to reality with president biden telling the american public, and i quote, we have a deal. but there are a lot of hurdles to jump over, before the $1.2 trillion plan ever becomes law. president praising the work of a bipartisan group of senators. saying, bipartisanship is how things get done on capitol hill. but, will republicans, and even some democrats, vote for a final deal, at the end of the day? i am joined, now, by anita dunn, a senior adviser to president biden. and i'm sure, she'll say, yes, don't jinx it, don. it's going to get done. thank you, anita dunn, for joining us. so, president biden's words.
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it's his words. we have a deal. he is sounding pretty optimistic. we haven't seen this sort of bipartisanship in a long, long while. but, we all know the margins on capitol hill are tight. i don't know. is -- is -- do you think this is going to happen? what happens, next? >> all, great questions, don. but as we'd like to say at the white house today, it's infrastructure week in washington, finally. so, you know, what happens next? you had something that's very unusual today. five democrats, five republicans. who, both, gave up some things they cared about in this package to come together. and it's really an historic package. it's probably the largest investment, in our nation's infrastructure, in our roads, our bridges, our public transit. and making sure kids aren't drinking water out of lead pipes, any longer. and electric-vehicle charging stations. the largest investment since we built the highway system, back in the 1950s.
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so, we believe that, this package working, in tandem, with another package that will have most of what president biden proposed in his families plan. and this is what we would think of as the human infrastructure. this is, you know, the childcare and education, paid leave, the care economy. and other things, as well. the children's tax credit. the -- that will move, in tandem, with this infrastructure package. and that, these are things democrats can unite behind. and as -- and with the bipartisan-infrastructure package, a package that, we believe, republicans can vote for, as well. people have talked about infrastructure for decades in washington. now's their chance to actually vote on it. >> yeah. listen, i remember the discussions. especially, at the -- around 2006, 2007. remember, the minneapolis bridge collapse? or the minnesota bridge collapse? >> oh, yeah. >> i want to play something the president said. and then, i want to continue. this is what we heard from president biden today.
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>> when's the last time, if you had asked me whether or not i'd be able to get passenger-rail service for $66 billion worth, largest investment, ever, since amtrak, came about. i'd ask -- got 66 billion. talk about public transit. 49 billion. $49 billion for public transit. electric buses, 7.5 billion. i asked for 15. i could -- couldn't get all of it but i -- we compromised. electric infrastructure. that is, charging stations along the roads. i -- i asked for 15. i got 7 and a half. >> so, anita, what the president is describing there. asking for 15, getting half and so on. that's how a lot of people think about negotiating and getting to a compromise. but what do you say to those, in your own party, who think not big enough? >> well, i think, if you had said to anybody in my, own party a year ago, that we would be
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talking about a $1.2 trillion infrastructure package. that they would have been pretty darn happy. and i think once they look at the details of this, they'll see a lot to before. nobody is going to get everything you want when they have to compromise but this is historic set of investments in america's future, jobs, in good-paying union jobs jobs that allow us to compete with china and global economies. and jobs that will help us build the clean-energy future that we know this country has to start working on yesterday, don. we should have been doing this a long time ago. >> uh-huh. >> you know, when the president announced he was going to run for -- for president back in april, 2019, he talked about compromise. and he said he believes in it. he believes it's how you get things done. but he, also, knows there are times when you can't find common ground with the other party. and at times like that, you have to go it alone. that's what we did with the american rescue plan. that passed without one-republican vote. so, in this case, we would see
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his jobs plan, the infrastructure plan, moving forward in a bipartisan way. and the bulk of the families plan would move forward, probably through a reconciliation process. >> okay. >> we'd hope republicans would vote for it. >> president biden talked about this agreement as being a signal to the world that democracy can, still, deliver. but when you look at republicans using a filibuster to block something as, you know, fundamental as voting rights, and block a january-6th commission. is -- is democracy, still, at risk at home? >> no. i think the president biden has spoken about democracy as always being at risk. and something that we always have to be defending. you know, as a young senator, he actually fought, successfully, to get the voting-rights act extended for an additional-25 years. but, as he would be the first to tell you, these aren't new issues. at the same time, in the aftermath of 2020 and those
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elections, what we are seeing in this country. the attempts to suppress the vote. to write rules to decide who gets to vote. to make it easier for some people, harder for others. is wrong. and he's used language, like atrocious, and it is atrocious. so, we're going to figure out a path forward. he's not going to stop fighting for voting rights. he's not going to stop working for legislation. we're not going to looking for ways, in states, to try to make sure that people's rights are protected. and, i think, you will be hearing more from him next week on these issues. >> anita dunn, always a pleasure. come back, early and often. or, in our case, late and often. thank you so much. >> late. don, thank you for having me. >> absolutely. thanks, anita. she did stress late there. rudy giuliani spent months spreading lies about the 2020 election. now, a court has suspended him from practicing law in new york. it was a life changing moment for me. i had no idea that my grandfather
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a major smackdown today for rudy giuliani. the former-personal lawyer for president trump, who was, once, a top-federal prosecutor in manhattan. suspended from practicing law, in new york state. an appellate court ruling giuliani made demonstrably false and misleading statements about the 2020 election. and that, his conduct threatens the public interest. cnn's tom foreman has more. >> the president of the united states says i didn't. >> truth is a truth. mr. mayor, do you realize -- i -- i -- this is going to become a bad meme. >> reporter: long before a new york appellate court suspended his legal career -- >> wait. wait, let me finish. >> reporter: america's mayor was melting. >> and the reason i keep all these things together is precisely to avoid what the democrats did.
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>> reporter: from the outset of donald trump's tumultuous term, rudy giuliani was a prized player around the oval office. >> rudy's a very straight shooter. >> reporter: but others saw him differently. >> he is the political henchman for the president. >> you are just repeating spin. the prosecutor -- >> oh, but you don't, right? you're not spinning anything. go ahead. >> i'm not spinning a damn thing. >> the chief problem? giuliani was neck deep in the ukraine scandal from the get go. despite evidence that he was part of trump's effort to secure foreign help in the 2020 election. giuliani insisted, with no proof, that democrats were trying that trick. >> in fact, i'm a legitimate whistle-blower. >> he seemed in lockstep with all the president's denials. >> he didn't do anything wrong. i mean, he didn't obstruct. >> reporter: all the time. >> no collusion and no obstruction. >> reporter: and if anyone doubted his closeness to the commander in chief -- >> you can assume that i talk to him early and often.
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>> reporter: soon, whenever accusations arose of any wrongdoing in trump land, the president's lawyer started swinging. >> shut up, moron. shut up. shut up. you don't know what you're talking about. >> chris, chris, chris. >> you don't know what you are talking about, idiot. >> reporter: and when trump decided to dispute his clear-and-fair loss in the election, giuliani was right there, too. >> dead people voted. over 3 -- 300,000 ballots were counted, in secret. >> reporter: pressing the case at the four seasons in philadelphia. not the hotel, the landscaping firm. and anywhere else, anyone would listen. >> we cannot allow these crooks, because that's what they are, to steal an election from the american people. >> reporter: for a long time, a lot of trump's critics have felt that giuliani has been running dangerously wild with his claims, and should be shut down. now, the court has granted their wish. saying, before the new york bar, at least for now, the former-mayor has been muzzled.
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don. >> tom foreman, thank you so much. rudy giuliani's suspended from practicing law in new york state, after all his election lies. and he's not the only lawyer close to trump, who's facing problems. ? get outta here. everybody's a skeptic. wright brothers? more like, yeah right, brothers! get outta here! it's not crazy. it's a scramble. just crack an egg. go with simparica trio it's triple protection made simple! simparica trio is the first and only monthly chewable that covers heartworm disease, ticks and fleas, round and hookworms. dogs get triple protection in just one simparica trio! this drug class has been associated with neurologic adverse reactions, including seizures. use with caution in dogs with a history of these disorders. protect him with all your heart. simparica trio.
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. okay. so let's talk about rudy giuliani, the man formerly known as america's mayor and president trump's former personal attorney suspended from practicing law in new york state over false and misleading statements about the 2020 election. a court saying his conduct threatens the public interest. threatens the public interest. i want to talk to cnn's senior legal analyst laura coates about that and other things. she's also a former federal prosecutor. laura, wow. here we are. before we get to this, did you ever think we would get to this point with rudy giuliani, considering his behavior over the last couple of years? >> well, if you look at the last couple of years, perhaps that this was already maybe inevitable. but you're talking about the
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scope of his entire career? this is somebody who was known as america's mayor. we remember the infamous hard hit photograph of him approaching the scene of 9/11. we also recall that he was a top federal prosecutor in the sdny, the southern otherwise known as the sovereign district of new york. that's how he became the mayor, because he was in a position of public trust. up until now, according to this board and the appellate court, had not violated that trust. >> yeah. all right. let's go through what the court says. the court's ruling today, laura, says, we conclude that there is uncontrovertible evidence -- is that the right thing i said? yeah. wait. can we back up because i think i have two different things here. back up to the beginning of this. there we go. we conclude that there is uncontrovertible evidence that respond end communicated demonstrably false and misleading statements to courts, lawmakers and the public at
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large in his capacity as lawyer for former president donald j. trump. these false statements were made to improperly bolster respondent's narrative that due to widespread voter fraud, victory in the 2020 united states presidential election was stolen from his client. we conclude that respondent's conduct immediately threatens the public interest and warrants interim suspension from the practice of law. i have too many notes and too many statements, so thank you for being patient with that, laura. okay. so false statements and a threat to the public interest and pushing the big lie. this is the attorney who served as a lawyer for the president of the united states, and he is in disgrace. >> he absolutely is. and of course i hear all of that, and i think about the umbrella term "a duty of candor." you know, lawyers have the obligation -- i know people oftentimes consider lawyers to be oftentimes the underbelly of society. i know they can have different
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roles that sometimes are championed and other times are vilified. but ultimately lawyers are supposed to exercise this duty of candor and honor, meaning they can't just tell lies to the court. they're supposed to obviously put up a defense, put forth a case, but they've got to be honest, and they cannot be misleading. notice the first term, misleading the courts, the public, legislators. there's a reason it was in that record, because he's unlike perhaps a politician who's only exercising in the court of public opinion or in legislative activities. he actually was trying to present false statements to the court. remember, it's not just that oath you must take if you're testifying. when a lawyer comes into the courtroom and is before a judge, they are expected to put forth statements that are honest and truthful. they may have some distinctions and nuances based on their case. but if he's making statements that are directly contrary to the facts, meaning, remember, at one point in time, his actual client, the campaign, i believe, was saying they weren't putting
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forth some certain statements. he came up and had the opposite thought and had to be corrected in the courtroom. this misleading nature undermines his credibility in the courts. it smacks of a lack of ethics, a lack of integrity, a lack of honesty. and most important here, don, they associated that with what happened on january 6th in terms of the immediacy of the threat of allowing him to continue in that role. this was the former mayor of new york city, the former sdny top prosecutor, and the former president of the united states' attorney. this is extraordinary. >> yeah. hey, laura, i've got to go. i'm already over time. you know because you sit in this chair, so you know what i'm deal with, and i'm really bad because i get in trouble a lot. they're in court today. i'm talking about sidney powell and the my pillow guy, mike lindell, defending themselves against dominion. i guess their defense is that what they said about the election is protected speech. yes or no? is that a winning argument? >> no. you're over time.
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