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when you hear it? >> pretty chilling. two nights before the insurrection we were in georgia at a trump ral pip pumped up for january ofth saying the election would be overturned, almost an exact phrase, a man there, what happens if on wednesday january 6th the election? nover turned, he said, there could be a civil war. >> doney, thank you for the incredible reporting and thanks to all of you for being with me. "anderson" starts now. good evening from cerfside, florida. i'm john berman if nor anderson tonight. family and friends holding on to hope their loved ones may still be found alive, even as authorities in this beachside community announced a short time ago that an 11th body was pulled from the wreckage of the champlain tower south condo today leaving 150 unaccounted for. almost six days since the tragedy that has touched at least nine countries and
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multiple fates. safety on the minds of anyone in lives in a high-rise or plans to vacation in one this summer. promising rescue ercfforts will grow in intensity and size with few breaks. facing increasing odds. lightning the latest issue with officials telling cnn tonight that rescuers are standing on a giant piece's met. three victims including the latest not named. what we know about the eight other victims. a couple about to celebrate their 59th anniversary. we'll have more on their remarkable story in a moment. hear from their son and grandson later in the broadcast. also 46-year-old anna ortiz and her son, 26-year-old with muscular dystrophy. his aunt said only had movement and use of one hand but used that hand to draw and to paint. also, 80 yard leon and his 74-year-old wife christina, and
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manuel, a 54 father of two who shared a passion for baseball with his son. according to the "miami herald" both children picked up by their mother just hours before the building collapsed. stacy fang, a 54-year-old whose 50-year-oldwhose -- 15-year-old son was pulled from the rubble. the boy wants to know what happened to his mother. we all want to know, she said. that really is the central question this hour. what happened? why did it happen? senior investigative correspondent drew griffin that the latest on the search for answers as hoto how this could have happened to beginry wrt as new evidence emerges of scratches, potential danger, this short surveillance camera video itself remains the best clue so far as to how and why the champlain south tower fell in what forensic engineer joe call as clean collapse.
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>> a pancake effect. almost symmetrical in vertical causing the structure to come straight down instead of collapsing sideways or in any other trajectory meaning whatever caused it, which is unknown at this point, would have caused this structure to have a clean veticcal collapse of those towers. >> reporter: while engineers continue to speculate from afar in reality, the answer lies like the victims trapped under rubble. the 40-year-old structure was due for massive repairs. an alarming 2018 structure report warned of cracking columns in several instances of deteriorating rebar especially on the pool deck and the parking structure garage underneath the building. according to the report failed waterproof causing problems below the pool deck.
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that made several engineers say they did not foresee a collapse and mince before a cons min yum said it appears the building is in good shape. it was in the process of recertification. electrical and structural assessment of any building 40 years. quoting to the condominium association attorney the building had multiple inspections and in the process of extensive work which would have cost $15 million. structural engineer jason borden examined champlain tower just last year. >> i saw thing s i typically se. cracks in the stucco facade, deterioration of the concrete balconies. saw cracks and deterioration of the plaza level and decks but all accustomed to seeing and why
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our job exists. >> reporter: causing alarm in what you saw? >> what i saw, no. >> reporter: lack of alarm sending chills through residents in other aging buildings belong this beach and beyond. inspections under way. a rush to find answers to why this building just fell. forensic engineers caution that answer to yet be months away. andrew griffin joins us now. drew, the town of surfside hired a structural engineer to study this collapse. what's he saying tonight. >> make alan killshimer calling it a huge puzzle he and his firm need to figure out and already begun. visiting the site. looking at plans. collecting all the information he can about what happened, and then he puts this through this meticulous computer-assisted process of elimination, john. ruling in and ruling out various
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possibilities and combination of possibilities that could cause this, but as so many structural engineers have already told us, this is a process that is going to take months. john? >> all right. drew griffin, thanks for looking into this for us. now some photos of the basement-level garage obtained by the miami herald" from a contractors who took them just 36 hours before the collapse and tells "the herd "heherald" he w shocked by the lack of maintenance. >> understanding this is the basement garage under the pool deck. a bunch of standing water and entered the pool equipment room where he saw cracks in the concrete. everything that was just described. that rebar devastated the concrete and thought, wow. why haven't they maintained this building better. >> perspective from asher cohen,
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a forensic engineer who evaluates damaged building and also specializing in high-rise residential developments based in miami. asher, we just showed photos taken 36 hours before this collapse. what did you see in that? >> spaling, well documented, significant spaulding in the south end of the pool structure below that and we saw evidence in other photographs in that inspection report. again, noted and has been noted continuously that the spaling alone doesn't explain this to the degree it was. a real mystery and as we expect pieces get removed from the site and re-examine them, test them, send to laboratories we'll have a better idea. we hope sooner than later we have a more clear idea what factors contributed to his. >> what does your eye tell you about those photos? again, a bit more reporting according to the contractor, a lot of standing water.
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unusual amount of standing water in that area? >> you know, i read the report and the water is very, very concerning, and in the report is a sentence that states that maybe this event is actually in other locations in the building. for example, if the waterproofing has failed where the pool deck is, has the waterproofing also failed where the roof? what happens then is, were there connections over time that failed? in this event it did not happen in the past 24 hours or the past 24 months. it took time to be done, and nobody was working on the building in the middle of the night. so if the event really happened in the past 24 hours, the past 24 months, the failure could have been on top. could have been in the middle or could have been on the bottom. nobody really knows. it's purely speculation. >> the photos we saw in the "miami herald" are actually from a spot that didn't collapse. the collapse happened in a
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different spot, but there is one sentence in this article which makes you wonder. the question is, was that more widespread across that whole level? if it had been, how much of a concern would that be to you? >> yeah. again, it was. we saw evidence of spaling throughout the parking garage. again, it's well documented that at this point we recognized there was spaling, to the extent we saw below the south end of that pool structure, maybe not to that extent. again, we did see evidence of that in that 2018 report. as we said, something that occurs over many, many years. when we see failures we see progressive failures of concrete structure give you plenty of time to understand, hey we have a serious issue. so puzzling here is the fact it happened so rapidly with, again, a lot of engineering eyes on it, at least over the last self years. plenty of experts who have come by and we just don't understand what other factor the a this point. >> what about that? how does it go from major structural damage as we saw in 2018 report to major structural damage you need to fix today?
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>> look, this building is not old. this building is young. i was in high school when this building was being built. what's interesting here is when we design buildings we design everything slope to drains. so the water runs out. especially here. the aware has salt in it, salinity. we try to get the water away and drained away from the structure, from the steel as fast as possible. but like the engineer said. if this really was a waterproofing issue where the water continuously was able to percolate into the concrete and into the steel, then it's like a cancer. it grows and keeps on growing and extending. the point of arrival could have been someplace from the top, someplace at the bottom. we just don't know. but this goes against anything that we do in maintaining these buildings. we need to maintain these buildings and if we do not maintain waterproofing maintain the structure, it's not lock maintaining ourselves. we will fail. >> one point, going on, search
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and rescue effort going on right behind this building we see here. the mayor of miami-dade county pounded out, yes, a search and rescue but also an evidence gathering operation. trying to piece it together to analyze forensically what's happening. what are some of the things the engineering that looked at the collapse, video of the collapse and different pictures we've seen, like the ones today, told the "new york times" and the "miami herald" they're of the mind this collapse started in the bottom. maybe in the garage or the pool level. what do you make of that? how do the new photos contribute to your theory? >> i don't know about -- when we look at that video we can see the central portion of the building collapses and we look at that column support at the south end of that central portion and it appears, given what we can see. again, remember, we're just looking at the south side. the important thing to remember what if we had video from the north side? that's the limiting factor here. mind you, we have video alone is telling. i strongly suggest to everyone
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that what we will do is when we examine all of the information the physical evidence we're going to start to see better, much more clearly, what specifically, what factors and multiple factors, likely, contributed to this issue. and, again, you know, it's not to say that we're not looking at corrosion. trying to say, oh, spaling happens. it's not something to be concerned of. of course it's a concern. spaling alone and the extent here is a puzzle. still have to examine it and look at it. >> what if it was a column what could cause that? >> standing on two legs. one leg i get a nail in my knee and cannot stand on that, i can try to balance, but when i'm a building i cannot. i have to follow the motion of the weakness. the direction of the failure. and what asher is talking about is how the building collapsed on to itself. yet the front facade was
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standing, and thenmoved back. pure speculation, others ask me, how could it be that i don't see any material of the roof material that was being placed, on the existing building? the building is still standing. yet if it was placed where was it placed? places on the building that failed, and if so, wasplaced on the joint where it failed? gets back to what asher is saying. some folks say, no, the failure is down below. some people saw a sinkhole. some people saying maybe the materials were not spread around and they were loaded and people thought was safest, which is by the shear wall and maybe that's the weakest point because the water membrane was not protecting it for years, and maybe that's where the failure was. then you start to look at it from a different perspective, like he said. maybe you need to look from the north, rather than from the south. it's like an accident and four people on four corners see the same accident in four different
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ways. >> one of the questions is, as we're hearing from reporters and from you and other engineers too took a tour of the building. i talked to 0 guy who looked tat last year. they saw thing, nothing they saw then was alarming to them then. what are the chances, asher, one of the things that emerging from this, people like you and people like you designing these buildings look at things differently? start to see evidence like this and maybe worry more now because of it? do we need to change wait we look at things? >> goes without saying. we're absolutely going to look at things with more scrutiny. especially once we start to uncover things. forensic, we look at all and go into whatever failed. put together a hypothesis and examine and test it. now contributing information, significant information as we learn what happened. that absolutely will be incorporated into the engineering community, the architectural community and the inspecting community as a hwhol.
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what we see from here i hope will be improvement and this never happens again. absolutely. >> the thousands that live on the coast of florida and up the east coast, too, want to know and appreciate the work you're doing. appreciate you joining us tonight. thank you both very much. we're going to continue to cover this observation after the break with the mayor of surfside, charles burkett with the latest on their investigation into the collapse. later a profile of the couple we found earlier found in the rubble. you'll hear from the husband and grandson of a husband and wife about to celebrate 59 years about to celebrate 59 years together. ♪let's make lots of money♪ ♪you've got the brawn♪ ♪i've got the brains♪ ♪let's make lots of♪ ♪uh uh uh♪ ♪oohhh there's a lot of opportunities♪ with allstate, drivers who switched saved over $700.
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the engineer already has begun the investigation and cautioning the review could sake some time. i'm joined by the mayor of surfside. thank you for joining us. one of the first thing us said speaking to the push lick was buildings just don't fall down like this. they just don't fall count like this which is why the investigation is so important. can you give us the latest on where that investigation is? >> well, as i've said repeatedly, you know, as far as i'm concerned, the number one priority here is pulling these people out of the rubble, and we're going to focus only on that. the second priority is supporting the families. with respect to the investigation, we're, what we're doing right now. staff, i've directed staff to pull out every scrap of documentation that we have, which includes going through our boxed files in storage, bring them back. scan them. put them on our website and put them out for the toward see. you know, we're going to start to piece together exactly what
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happened. that will be, you know -- there's plenty of time for the investigation, but there's not plenty of time to save lives. that's where i'm mostly focused today, tomorrow and the next indefinite tinchts how long do you think that transparency will take? >> i said to the mayor of miami-dade county an article about survivability in building collapse situations. it was 17 days. >> right. >> we're not anywhere near that. so -- and, limp, i'm not saying 17 days is the limit. my position will be, and i'm not the decision-maker here, but if someone asked me for my opinion it's going to be like we need to pull everybody out of there and be sure that we've got everybody, and then we can close the case and move on to the next phase. >> i understand saving lives possibility inside is "the" priority and families may be trapped there, these priorities -- >> you can't walk away from possibly saving somebody. >> but, there's a safety issue for other people living in some
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of these towers now. >> let me tell you. the first night i way out here when i was told there was a building collapse and expected to see a balcony down and half the building was down, those rescue guys and gals were out here. they told us to move back, because there was a danger of the rest of the building falling down. as i moved back and followed instructions, they surged forward, went into the building and brought more people out. >> and their courage is -- it's amazing. and they want to save lives thp their job is to save lives and i know it's frustrating for them that it is what it is right now in terms of that. again, though, part of your job isn't just nor the people who are trapped in that building but for the other people who live in these other buildings who want to know that we're safe today. >> muy main my main priority is people in that building. and we have a building identical
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to the one that fell down. same contractor, same name, presumably same plans and presumably the same materials and the clock is ticking on that ed building too. we sent our building inspector in there with an inspector we hired, an eminent inspector. the inspector who actually did the pentagon after the 9/11 attack. and who also did the fiu bridge when it fell down. so he's one of best in the business, and he went into that building will people were fearful because they were calling me saying, limsten is m building safe jie couldn't tell them their building was safe. did a cursory inspection. walked through. called me, mr. mayor, we didn't see anything that jumped out at us that gave us the impression this building was going to fall down tomorrow, but having said that, we need a full-blown sort of investigation. >> you read the 2018 engineering report. >> i have. >> what were your feelings? >> listen, there are finding there's. there are serious, significant
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issues in that report that should have been addressed. now, it probably should have never gotten that bad prior to 2018. >> should never have gotten that bad? >> probably -- you know, again if it had been maintained correctly it probably wouldn't have gotten that bad. >> i want to ask you obviously you spent so much time on site and with the families. you had an experience where you saw a 12-year-old girl in this, and this moved you. tell me about that experience as your contact. >> i do three pass as day at the site. i do one first thing in the morning. i do one around midday and one end of the day. whatever that time is. the other night it happened to be 9:00 or so. as i was doing my pass, i noticed this beautiful, beautiful little girl sitting there looking at her phone. and she -- i recognized her, because a couple days before i had talked to her, and i didn't remember which parent was in that building but i knew she had a parent in that building and i
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said to her, are you okay? and she said, just looked at me. like she was psort of lost. i said what are you doing? she said something -- you know i could see it was hebrew on the, on the screen. and she named the prayer in hebrew and i didn't get it. she said it three times and finally said, it's a prayer. and it hit me. i mean, she was sitting there praying about, now i know her father, who's in that building. and her uncle, who's in that building. so as i you know, i told her, i said, listen, i'm here for you. we love you. we're supporting you, and if there's anything you need, you ask for the mayor of surfside and i'll come make it happen. and i walked away, and i got home and i felt worse. because i could have done more. and as i was driving around with my police escort today, i told the story to the police officer and said, well, do you want me to find her? i said how are you going to do that? i'll look. i came back from a meeting, and
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she had the little girl's name on a piece of paper. at the is a imtime someone called into city hall and said i know where she is too. at the community center eating lunch. i walked ober from town hall. sat down next to her and we started talking and we had lunch together, had french fries together. exchanged numbers. turns out her mom is in financial distress because the father was supporting -- the mother lived in a building just down the street and they were separated. so the little girl was going back and forth between the mom and the dad. thank god she was with the mom that night, but the mom needs help, and we've set aside some money already. i put her in touch with our save our support surfside.org site, and her mom's going get the help she needs, and the little girl's going to get the things she asked me for, which was a comfort puppy. >> ah. >> so, you know, listen. it's just -- you see this little girl. she's beautiful. she's kind.
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she's sweet, and you know what? she doesn't say a word. she sits there in silence and prays for her dad. >> listen, i can tell how much this meant to you. >> no. it's the face of this -- >> think what it meant to her. >> no. you know what? listen -- it's the face of this crisis. a little girl who's lost her dad. it's tragic. she hasn't locht her dad yet. i told her, we're going to do everything we can, but she's missing her dad. >> yeah. >> so -- you know. i'm hoping for a miracle. what, you know -- >> we could use one. >> we could use many. we're praying and hoping, mayor. >> i appreciate you being with us. i'm sure that girl appreciates it also. thank you for the work you're doing, my pleasure. up next, a son's heartache. he lost both his mother and his father in the condo collapse, lived in champlain towers just across the way from his parents and could see into their apartment from his balcony. what happened when he discovered their apartment was gone when
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their dream and one of their sons lived in a complex in another tower with a view of his parents' apartment. he talked with "360"'s randi kaye and what he shares is just incredible. here's her report. >> reporter: antonio and gladys live and the ninth floor at the champlain towers in surfside, florida. it had been antonio's dream to live on the beach. their son sergio had dinner we them at their condo just houred before the building collapsed. >> after dinner, i had, i had to work early in the morning, and i hugged my mom good night. kissed my dad. no more. >> reporter: never matching that would be the last time you saw them. >> no. nope. >> reporter: sergio returned to his condo in champlain east, the same complex but two blocks away to be awakened at 1:30 in the morning by a terrible noise. >> i that it was a tornado.
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i opened the door, i told my wife. oh, my god -- it's not there. she goes what do you mean? the building's not there. what do you mean? my parents' apartment's not there. >> reporter: through tears he said that his parents' apartment wasn't there, that the building was gone. sergio says he used to be able to see into his parents' kitchen from his own apartment. >> i could see my mom cooking from my apartment, when night would fall. their kitchen where my dad would sit and watch tv. it wasn't there. it's just like -- i don't know. >> reporter: as the search continued do you have any hope that they would be found alive? >> i didn't. i was just praying to god that
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they went quick and that they were together. >> reporter: when officials told him his parents had died in the collapse, he says they told him they were found together. >> was told they were in bed together. that's the end of the romantic story. >> reporter: they had been married 59 years, antonio was 82. gladys was 80. they first met in cuba at 8 years old. after antonio came to the united states he sent for gladys and they got marry and miami beach. antonio later become a successful banker. their son says they often joked about who might die first. >> my dad would say to my mom, if you die, i don't even know how to fry an egg. i'm going to die. and my mom would say that if my dad would die, i don't know how to pay the bills.
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i always told my mom. don't worry -- i'm going to do it -- but they died together. it's not fair. to be crushed. being destroyed. it's not fair. >> reporter: next month would have been gladys and antonio's 59th wedding anniversary. instead of planning a celebration, their son sergio is planning a funeral. now more than ever he's grateful for happier times. like when he took his parents to europe and how his mom cried visiting the vatican. sergio's son is cherishing the time moments remembering one of the last things his grandfather told him, that he was proud of him. >> you hear that in the same day, it's just -- it's unimaginable.
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unimaginable. >> reporter: the lozano's leave behind two children, seven grandchildren and two great-grandchildren. a family in pain but as peace knowing antonio and gladys are still together. >> they're just two amazing -- important, amazing people. >> 59 years and they're still together. randi kaye joins me now. randi, that -- that's overwhelming. it's overwhelming to hear him talk about his parents. >> yes. >> they were found together. he had such joy. they had such joy in their life and clear that sergio is still dealing with their death. has he been back to his own apartment yet? i mean, what is he going through having looked out his window and seeing the building gone? >> and raced down to the street and was stop pptd police on the scene saying, no, no, no.
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it's not safe. he had run down to the street after seeing it was gone. he has not been back to his home in the east tower. it's too emotional. saw his parents' building was gone, having terrible flashbacks and now planning their funeral as i said instead of a celebration for their anniversary and all of their belongings are gone in addition to their clothes and doesn't have a dress or suit. he tells me had has to now go shopping to bury his parents in some beautiful. it's unimaginable. >> the memories, at least he has the memories, though, and they're remarkable memories to have. what a story. randi, thank you so much. please, if you talk to sergio, give him our love. >> i will. >> and that we're thinking about him. we're going to have more on the condo collapse coming up. stay with us. discomfort back there? instead of using aloe, or baby wipes, or powders,
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former attorney general bill barr is quoted in an upcoming new book saying the former president's claims of widespread election fraud were nonsense, although he use add much stronger word. in at book called "betrayal" barr says he went ahead with what he said were unofficial inquires. barr said, karl said that barr
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knew trump would ask pimm an the allegations and he wanted to be able to say he looked into them and they weren't true. a remarkable turn from what barr was saying while all this was going on. here's a sample. >> the elections that have been fond with mail have found substantial fraud and coercion. we indicted, for example, someone in texas. 1,700 ballots collected from people who -- could vote. he made them out and voted for the person he wanted to. okay? that kind of thing happens with mail-in ballots and everyone knows it. >> in fact, you have no evidence that foreign countries can successfully swear elections with counterfeit ballots, do you? >> no i don't. but i have common sense. i think there's a range of events so many occasions for fraud that cannot be policed. i think it would be very bad, but one of the things i mentioned was the possibility of counterfeiting. >> did you have evidence to
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raise this specific concern? >> no. it's obvious. >> during your ten years at attorney general of the united states how many indictments have you brought against people committing voter fraud? >> i couldn't tell you off the top of my head. but several i know of. >> like a handful? >> i don't know. >> several doesn't sound like too many? >> i don't know. i don't mow how many we have i know there are a number of investigations right now. some very big ones in states. >> some perspective now from cnn chief legal analyst jeffrey toobin. as you heard many times from the former attorney general indulge election conspiracy theories leading up to the election. in this except of john karl's book he's quoted saying, my attitude was it was put up or shut up time. if there was evidence of fraud i had no motive to suppress it but my suspicion all wait along was there was nothing there. it was all bullshit. we realized from the beginning it was just bullshitt.
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so now -- a long way from the theories stoking over the summer. what do you make of this? >> you know, donald trump among other things was the great rep trep reputation destroyer. everyone in his administration came away with a diminished reputation and that goes triple for william barr who had a tenure as attorney general under george herbert walker bush. not as people's lawyer but donald trump's lawyer throughout think tenure. when donald trump was starting the conspiracy theories based on nothing, on no evidence that mail-in ballots were froaud, th
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attorney general was spec speculating. now, at least the decency confronted with an actual election with actual votes cast to point out to the president there was nothing here. that there was no fraud, but, you know, he is trying to repair damage that he in significant part caused himself. >> how much of it do you think is reputation rehab? >> i think it's a lot, but, you know, he has a long way to go, because he has a lot to answer for. not just about the election, but about the way he misled the public about the mueller report. the way he interfered in the cases of donald trump's friends, like roger stone. and asked, and asked to give them special leniency. you know, his reputation took, fraps, the biggest hit of anyone associated with donald trump. so the fact that he and his justice department at long last did the right thing on the postelection period, you know, that's better than nothing,
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but -- he has a long way to go. >> will this play any role in the various legal investigations under way? there's a criminal case still in georgia looking at president trump's looking into georgia's, what do the former attorney general's comments what might they have? >> i trust the line prosecutors in the justice department to do the right thing which is to investigate that and see if there is a crime there, and then prosecute them if there is a case to be brought. the tragedy of bill barr's leadership of the justice department is that it wasn't people with integrity leading these investigations. it was partisans like barr himself, and from everything i can tell, the good guys are back in charge. that is, the career people, the people with integrity are back in charge in the justice department, and i think they'll wind up doing the right thing.
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today former president obama stepped up his criticism of republican attempts for not only attempting to surtail voting rights but punic election officials for sticking to the rules. via zoom at a democratic political fund-raiser. >> and rather than supporting the secretary of state of georgia or the, you know, commission in, you know, arizona that had done the counting and performed their duties properly, et cetera, what you saw was republican elected officials all side with the president out of fear, i guess. leave many of these folks who were republicans themselves and who had just, were just doing their jobs, hanging out to dry.
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>> specifically republican lawmakers targeted arizona secretary of state katie haas and georgia's secretary. >> reporter: it's a power grab. advancing a measure to strip secretary of state katie haas, instead, that power could wind up with the republican attorney general. >> we're certainly considering legal options, but what this is is nothing more than a partisan blatant retaliation against my office, coming from folks who are, you know, basically leading by conspiracy theory. >> the partisan play in the battleground state of arizona just one of a host of provisions allowing legislatures and others in republican-run states to seize power. extraordinary lengths in 2020 to ensure americans could safely vote during a pandemic but also to stand up to attempts from
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former president trump and his allies to overturn the election results. >> these kinds of efforts to have partisan bodies, state legislatures, take away decision-making power from election professionals of both parties is really a hangover from donald trump's big lie in the 2020 election. >> hobbs stood by the results showing joe biden won arizona in 2020, rejected unfounded claims of election fraud, and has criticized the half hazard gop led count. now she's facing the fallout from the republican legislature. the move to limit her powers only proposed to last until january 2023, when hobbs' term ends. >> if there was any question whether or not this is a blatantly political move, that expiration date should tell you that it is. >> reporter: in georgia republicans already passed a bill taking aim at another election official, brad
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raffensperger. >> we made sure we ran an honest and fair election. >> reporter: and then the legislature passed a measure removing raffensperger as a voting member of the state elections board. >> i believe it's bad policy. at the end of the day we need to be able to hold counties accountable, but the challenge is when you have unelected chairmen of the state election board, who's going to hold them accountable? they don't report to the voters. >> reporter: republicans say they protect election integrity and ensure election officials don't overstep authority. but to some advocates, that explanation rings follow with still no evidence of widespread fraud. >> it has nothing to do with election integrity and everything to do with the opposite. it's an attack on our democracy. >> and sara murray joins us now. so, sara, arizona's governor who i should point out say republican. is he expected to sign the bill? >> they do expect he's going to
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sign it. this is part of a broader budget bill. when i was speaking with katie hobbs earlier today, she said she is fully expects the governor is going to move forward with that. they're already thinking about their next options. essentially she said all legal options are on the table as of now, john. >> sara murray, terrific report. thank you so much. up next the urgent building inspections prompted by this disaster here in surfside, florida. here, if you already pay for car insurance, you can take your home along for the ride. allstate. better protection costs a whole lot less. click or call to bundle today. i always had a connection to my grandfather... i always wanted to learn more about him.
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tonight, as crews search the rubble of a condo collapse here in surfside, florida, there is urgent work being done at other buildings in florida to make sure it doesn't happen again. cnn's brian todd joins us with that. brian, you were in sunny isle up the street from here. you were going on some of these initial inspections. what were they looking for? >> they were looking for cracks in the foundation, compromises in the rebar. they were finding a lot of it at this complex, the winston towers. it's a complex of seven buildings, many of them with a similar layout to the champlain south complex where the pool is on the side of the building, the garage is underneath the pool. and these buildings were about the same age if not older than the champlain towers complex. there was a ton of cracking, exposed rebar, exposed post-tension bars which take the place of rebar.
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they're steel bars that reinforce the concrete. when those get exposed, especially when there's salty air coming in from the sea, that's a problem. they've got to replace it. some of this looks horrific to us. but the building inspectors say it's not enough to worry about the building come down but it's got to be addressed. they're being very transparent about the process. it takes two to three years more -- they started this process of identifying this and repairing this building six months to a year before this happened. it's going to take them another two to three years to complete that work. you figure that's going to go on for thousands of buildings in south florida now. >> it's building after building. just drive up the coast here, it goes on forever and forever. i'm curious though, you saw stuff with your own eyes that looked bad. and they were showing you things, but they basically said it's not so urgent they have to fix it immediately or the building will come down. what would concern them? >> you know, look, you get the
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expression that exposed rebar is really a telltale sign. these thin beams of metal inside the concrete columns. when those get exposed and the sea air gets to them, they get corroded. they get rusted. that's a problem. again, they have to get to it quickly, but they have to be meticulous and they have to look at every inch. >> they do this. what happens now with this information. they looked. >> yes. okay. so, they've got to then bring the structural engineers. the inspectors look first with city officials right next to them. then they bring structural engineers in who really give them the meticulous, okay, this needs to be repaired in this time frame. the structural engineers are really who know the business. but it's the condo owner who is have to foot the bill for this. and this complex we were, $20,000 per unit. you're going to have to pay 25 grand for your share of these repairs. some people don't have that money. >> we have about five seconds
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left. do they have the sense they're looking at things differently than before? >> absolutely. and they're going back to buildings they've already re-inspected to do it again now in the wake of this. >> really interesting to be part of this inspection, this new phase for the condos that line the coast in florida. really appreciate it, john. the news continues now. let's head it to chris for let's head it to chris for "cuomo prime time." -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com i'm chris cuomo and this is "cuomo prime time." this is the fifth day and it is agonizing and very difficult for those doing the search. the death toll has climbed to 11. we know that number is going to change. we know it's going to be difficult and the dread is looming around the number of 150. that's how many people they're still looking for. old, young, parents, grandparents. so, we went down to florida. cnn has had a presence there all throughout. and on friday i got to see the devastation up close. i was given the access to th
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