tv Don Lemon Tonight CNN June 28, 2021 7:00pm-8:00pm PDT
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all right. thank you for the opportunity tonight. it is now time for the big show "don lemon tonight" and the star d. lemon. >> thank you, sir. man, down in florida, boy, oh, boy, oh, boy. they're dealing with a mess, and it's hard not to think about them right now and all these new -- i saw the report about the pool and, you know, the maintenance under the pool and we'll talk about it. >> it's a mess. it's a mess. >> the worst part is there is this looming agony of the unknown. we're all holding up hope for miracles and they do happen. looking for 150 million people introduces realities to these
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people, these families, the extended families and -- >> 150 people. >> 150 at least. >> you said 150 million. >> i'm sorry, no, 150 people at least. we'll see. we'll see what the number is. it would be great to have miracles. i know the people doing the search haven't given up hope but in circling back with some of them this weekend, we got to be careful, legal analysis is subjective to speculation. norm eisen is a great legal mind and you need to know here is a potential avenue. it could go this way, that way. that's legal analysis. factual analysis of what happened does not bode well for suggestion by speculation and i think that what i heard, i don't think. what i heard from these guys is it hurts. they don't want to hear 100 different architects and engineers tell them could have, should have, would have, this cracked, that cracked. the state needs to get with the feds, put together a team.
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get the answers, put them out and have accountability. these people deserve that and these piecemeal stuff isn't working. >> absolutely. >> right now task force three is all over that. we have three different task forces on that florida is blessed to have as many task force as it does. the best search and rescue people we have. >> you and i talk about how tenuous life is. when your dad died a few years ago and we talked, my sister died. i just before i came on the show, i got a -- i had a lot of folks at the house this weekend or whatever and i didn't see a text from my high school buddy i graduated college with. our families are good friends. his mom and my mom went to school together. known each other forever. his dad died. he found him this weekend. he said i saw the text and talked to him just before air and no day is promised. no time is promised. no moment is promised.
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while we have each other here, we should love each other and spend as much time with each other and figure out what is important in life. i want him to know, author, your entire family if you're watching, my hearts are with you and the service will be this weekend. my family will be here visiting me and i'll hug them up and love them up as much as possible as much as i hugged you and loved you this weekend. thank you for showing up at the house and celebrating pride with me and my family. >> we have ever reason to be proud for the diversity of who we are and how lucky i've been to have you in my life as my friend and you are going to celebrate your friend's father by loving your own family and that's what i'm sure he would want. i love you d. lemon. >> i love you, too. get to the families in florida. thank you, sir. see you later. this is "don lemon tonight." as we have been talking about, this is ourbr breaking news tonight. the country and world watching
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the desperate search and rescue effort still going on at this very moment. more than 116 hours after that condo collapse in surfside, florida. more than 400 rescuers assigned to this search. about 200 on the wreckage at any given time. a state fire marshal is warning that they're standing on a giant piece of metal with lightning and constant threat. okay? families trying to hold out hope, really but it gets harder and harder at every moment goes by and night after night after night after it goes by, look, i can't even imagine. i had loss in my life but i can't imagine the agony and this kind of waiting. they are hoping, praying they won't get the terrible news that every family is dreading so tonight, this is where the death toll is. it is rising to 11. >> in total, the number of people accounted for now stands
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at 136 with 150 unaccounted for. the number of confirmed deaths is 11. tragically, 11. >> listen, i don't know if you ever want to imagine that but if you will put yourself in these folks' shoes but imagining what it's like not knowing what happened to your mother or grandmother or tell your 6-year-old son what happened. >> very difficult not knowing and really the only hope i have is that they find them. we can have some kind of proper burial and closure and hope that they investigate this and the people responsible are held to be responsible. they're held to be accountable. so that this never happens again. >> amen. imagine what it's like for a child afraid she's lost her mother or father. >> it was a little girl, she's about 12 years old and she was sitting by herself and i know this little girl because i had
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met her and she had told me that either her hmother or father wa in that building or either or mother or father lives in another building a couple streets down. so she had a mom here and dad there and one of them is gone now. and she was sitting there by herself with her cell phone reading prayers. all by herself. and that broke my heart. >> so, amid the hope and grief, the question everyone is asking tonight is what caused this? what caused this? a structural engineer hired by the town of surfside said he's begun examining that building. that as a contractor servicing the pool at the condo 36 hours before the collapse, by the way, telling "the miami herald" saw standing water, cracks in the concrete pool equipment room. much more on that in a moment. we have someone that can talk about that. right now, there are more questions than answers. how many other buildings were
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vulnerable? will it take to protect more residents from a collapse? all of that to come in the next two hours as i carry you through and much more on cnn with live coverage after that and a republican party we need to talk about going on right now. still under the spell of a disgraced twice impeached one-term president. the big liar and his big lie. nearly six months since trump supporting rioters ran wild at the united states capitol beating police and hunting lawmakers, more than five months since joe biden took the oath of office, the former guy still raging and obsessed with his own lies and his party can't move on when its leader is still pushing his position and now bombshells from three new books revealing just how deep his delusions go. he was obsessed with conspiracy theories and sure rourounded by who knew he was delusional so excerpts of his book. it's called betrayal of this book called betrayal.
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published in the atlantic. jonathan karl writes about what happened when bill barr admitted in an interview with the doj he uncovered no evidence of wide spread voter fraud and the then president quote and i'm quoting here, how the f could you do this to me? why did you say it? barr, because it's true. the president responding quote you must hate trump. you must hate trump. barr telling carl quote my attitude was it was put up or shut up time and there was evidence of fraud i had no motive to suppress it. if there was evidence of fraud, i had no motive to suppress it but my suspicion all the way along was there was nothing there. it was all bullshit. now as a former attorney general laundering his reputation here, yeah, it's true, after all, this is a guy who told our very own wolf f blitzer in september they indicted someone in texas for collecting 1700 ballots and
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filling them out himself. spoiler alert, that was not true. >> we indicted someone in texas, 1700 ballots collected from people who could vote. he made them out and voted for the person he wanted to. okay? that kind of thing happens with mail in ballots and everyone knows it. >> okay. so again, spoiler alert, that was not true. that was actually a local case and the ada who prosecuted it told "the washington post" that's not what happened at all. the voter said those ballots were legit. so yes, this is reputation laundry but this doesn't mean that bill barr isn't telling the truth now, does it? both things can be true. then there is the crowdedness of mitch mcconnell. you'd think he'd be embarrassed by this if he were capable of being embarrassed. mcconnell believed if he openly
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declared biden the winner, trump would be engaged and likely act to sabotage the republican senate campaigns in georgia. look, we need the president in georgia mcconnelled to barr so we cannot be frontally attacking him right now but you're in a better position to inject reality into this situation. you're really the only one who can do it. so he knew it was wrong. he let it go on while pushing barr to take a stand when he himself was too chicken to do it. and then there is michael wolff's new book and it called "landslide" the final days of the trump presidency. he writes that trump's senior advisors knew mike pence wouldn't go with the scheme to overturn the results of the election and here is another quote. the president's 's aides and fy understood, too, he was the only one with rudy giuliani, it doesn't say his whole name that only made the situation more alarming and any professional
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political spear to believe this hence although they did not call it such and try to see it as more der ranangement and says frankly, we did win this ele election. that's the name of the book he describes a shouting match between the joint chiefs of staff, mark milly and president donald trump that wanted to invoke the insurrection act and used the military to stop social justice protests last summer. like i said, that's how deep his delusions go pushing the big lie again and again and again. and then there is a former president president bush presid -- president barack obama that warns it could happen again and be worse the next time. >> in this election, what we saw waswarns it could happen again be worse the next time. >> in this election, what we saw was musiy successor count the vs
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and declare a winner and fabricate and make up a whole bunch of things so that as bad as january 6th was, if we had to repeat in future elections in which, let's say, the republican controlled pennsylvania legislature decided we're not going to certify all those votes coming out of philadelphia because we think that those urban votes are shady. imagine what would have happened. we would have had a worse constitutional crisis than we did. >> that's actually the perfect word to describe it, hughie. i want to go to the condo collapse and what a pool contractor saw in the poolroom. thank you for joining us. appreciate it. this is very important stuff
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we're talking about because you spoke to a pool contractor that took those photos in the garage area 36 hours before that building collapsed. tell us what you are learning and what these photos show exactly. >> sure. thank you so much for having me. we spoke to a contractor who was working for a company that was bidding to renovate the s champlain tower south pool as for the of the 40-year recertification process and on tuesday, two days before the collapse, he did a walk through of the property. initially walked through the lobby. walked through the pool area. didn't notice anything particularly alarming. he was being escorted by a building employee who then walked him down stairs to the north part of the building in the garage below. and that's where he told us that he saw deep standing water in the parking garage, that he
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found odd and concerning. he asked the employee what it was about at the time and the employee said it was probably a waterproofing issue that was going to be fixed. then he was led over to the south side underneath the pool area still in the garage to where the pool equipment room was and inside that room he saw major concrete spaling, exposed rebar in one of the beams there. he found it alarming enough he snapped photos and sent them to his boss at the time to say, you know, this project might actually cost a little more than we initially thought. that particular area was actually not what collapsed, but what experts tell us is that the photos looked quite bad and could be indicative of significant issues in the rest of the building and we know from a 2018 report that walter
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proofing issues from the pool deck that were affecting the concrete in the garage were significant concerns at least three years ago. >> yeah, i think that they said that this person was told, aaron, that the -- they had so much water they had to pump it out so much that the change the water pumps every two years because it was so bad, the standing water? that's right. the employee suggested this was a significant problem that people knew about. there was another new report tonigh "usa today" where they received an email from the president of the condo association from just this past april who suggested that these issues of -- in the parking garage had gotten significantly worse since 2018. so, you know, all of these things, their concerning.
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we're speaking with experts who say that they are caused for concern. obviously, we don't know and we're not going to know for quite sometime exactly what caused this catastrophe but it important to gather whatever facts we can at this point. >> aaron, appreciate you and your reporting. thank you, sir. >> thank you. hundreds of rescuers combing the wreckage of the collapsed condo while desperate families cling to hope. we'll have an update from officials on the scene. other buildings in the area safe? >> right now, our top priority is search and rescue and find the people. this may look like a regular movie night. but if you're a kid with diabetes, it's more. it's the simple act of enjoying time with friends, knowing you understand your glucose levels. ♪
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so rescue teams discovered another body today. there are 11 people confirmed dead, 150 others remain unaccounted for. the search and rescue operation continuing at this hour. i want to talk to nelly, the commissioner of surfside, florida, thank you, commissioner, thank you. appreciate your joining us. i know you had a long day and you've had a long, you know, weekend and since thursday.
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u you just left a vigil, we're at the end of the day day five. the good news is not coming. what are you hearing from families and the community? >> we still have hope we'll find someone alive. that's the last thing we want to lose and, you know, the families are getting together in one of the hotels in town. we had several briefings with our county mayor, our fire department chief and police chief and they are getting information periodically. >> so at some point the decision has to be made from rescue to recovery. how and when does that happen? >> that's something the county
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mayor could call. we don't handle that part within our town. so that information i really wouldn't have. >> listen, we know the rescue effort is slow, sadly, they got to be very careful because they say they're standing on this bible o pile of rubble, metal and it's lightening. to anguishing families, it's not fast enough. tell us more about the support people are getting right now. >> i know that it's very -- it's a lot to take in when you're waiting and it z feel like it eternal but i can assure everyone that there is a lot of rescue crew on that mountain trying to get it out as quick as possible but they have to be careful as we don't want to cause any damage or anything
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to -- any of the family members and so in terms of the families, they've been patiently waiting for news and we're trying our hardest to get some positive things out there. >> i want to talk about the building. the condo owners were facing $50 million worth of repair it reported that and it was part of the county's four-year recertification process. the building is 40 years old. does examination and recertification of buildings like this need to happen more often? >> absolutely. i think they need to happen at least every ten years. think after seeing something like this we can't wait 40 years. at first the 40-year recertification and then every ten years and as we can see, maybe things need to take place
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a lot earlier and definitely we need to add also a testing to these inspections. >> commissioner, look, if i live there or anyone that lives there, anywhere near that area would be concerned about their buildings, as well. how are you dealing with that? people are turning to you and others for questions and how are people feeling about their safety in their own buildings? >> yes, i know. we have a lot of residents that are concerned. we also addressed with the other two buildings developed by the same builder that did the champlain south to see if they wanted to be evacuated and relocated to other locations
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while we looked at the building and made sure it's structurally sound. the good thing is that there is only 14 families and they're at the moment in one of these buildings. most of the apartments are snow birds. so we're waiting to see what these families want to do, whether they want to be evacuated or not. and in terms of the rest of the buildings in town, we definitely will be requiring a gio technical to mike sure things like this never happen again. >> thank you so much. again, it's been a long day, a long couple of hours, couple days for you. we appreciate you joining us. best of luck to sgyou. >> thank you. 150 people still unaccounted for including judy spei gle. her daughter speaks out here, next. e created a brand-new
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crews tonight search and rescue efforts tonight in surfside, florida. families of the 150 people still unaccounted for holding on to hope tonight. i want to bring in rachel spei gle. she's the daughter of judy still missing. thank you for joining us. sorry this is happening to you. if i ask you anything else, what do you want to say? >> i just want to say i love my mom and we're not giving up hope. we're there every day. we're working tirelessly to bring awareness about what is happening and about our mom and, you know, we're going to do everything we can to fight. >> yeah. what else?
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because i always sit here in these situations, quite ho honestly, right, rachel and ask people all these questions and i don't want to do tv talk with you. i want to know how you're doing and what you want to let people know how you're dealing with it and your daughter. go on. what do you want to say? >> i mean, it j's just so hard. i mean, i got the call from my dad in the middle of the night on thursday morning. we ran over and, you know, i think the team is working as hard as they can but i feel like there are so many odds against us. i can't really understand why there hasn't been more discussion about the fires and i think personally for me, like i'm really hung up on that and nervous about it and that's a lot of my anxiety is that i have been there every day. so, like, i understand the
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extent of the smoke that was in the air. and so yes, there could be pockets and yes, there could be people but we're approaching day six, you know, it's day five, almost day six but the amount of smoke that's in the air and i imagine the heat of the fire, like those are things that concern me and keep me up at night. and, you know, i'm very worried. i'm very optimistic with the idf team, the israelis, the mexicans, i think there are so many people that -- there are so many teams from other countries coming in and coming to help us, which is fantastic, but i'm concerned that it's been five, almost six days and we found 11 people and there are still 150 people missing. >> uh-huh. why are you in your daughter's
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room? >> i'm in the play room now. both my daughters are sleeping. my husband is sleeping. i'm just trying to -- >> you haven't slept. >> be a little more remote so i don't wake everybody up. i've been missing a lot in my family's life the past few days because my efforts have been 100% dedicated to my mom. >> you haven't slept? >> barely. >> yeah. can i ask you about your mom? did she ever talk about the building or ever -- did she ever have any concerns or anything about the building? >> you know, i've asked my mom so many times to move a little closer to me to stay at my house more. she really, really liked it there and she really liked surfside. she never voiced concerns to me about the building itself. i probably raised more concerns
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to her. i mean, we spent the day there on saturday and i was listening to the previous interviews, you know, through this call and this interview and i personally -- i noticed the water in the garage. like, i saw it, but every time i asked my parents because i was with both my parents. you have to understand my dad left to go to california on monday morning. my parents were supposed to be away in new york this weekend. like, i don't understand the timing of this and why my mom was there, like it's very confusing to me but going back, i even said on saturday, i was like there are a lot of puddles in here. did it rain? and i just don't know about it? and, you know, my mom is like it's just always like this. it just rains in florida and, you know, it's -- the driveway is a downward slope so she's like it's just like that. it just always like that.
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and that was the answer. it really wasn't a topic of discussion. it wasn't debated. it just was that was how it was and it probably was like that for a long time and, you know, sometimes when you see things over and over, it's just the reality. >> you get used to it. yeah, you get used to it. that's just the way it is. the driveway goes down what have you. >> right. >> your brothers were on with wolf f ttoday, right? >> yes, yes. >> so this is an entire family effort. do you think that you're getting -- is your family getting the information you need? >> i think information we need and information are different things. i think -- i don't think that the team is withholding information. i think they are communicating everything they can. as a family and as someone
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that's going through this and as someone that's missing their mom who is their best friend and everything in the world to not only me but my poor dad who tonight after the wolf interview and we had a little dinner of whatever we could eat who is weeping in my arms and that's not my dad's personality. like, weeping. information is an interesting thing. you know, we've talked about it. you know, we pray and hope that my mom is alive under the rubble but we know that the odds are against us. we know there is fires. we know there is smoke. we know there is rain. we know that there is time. there is thunder. there is so many things that are against us and we're keeping up hope and we will keep up hope until we have an answer but the reality is if we need to consider that things are really
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bad, we want a body. we want -- we want confirmation. i don't think that it's -- that the city or the team is withholding anything. i don't. i just think they don't have it. and, you know, but that's what we want as a family and in order to grieve, like, we want something confirmed. >> before i end this interview, let me ask you this because we're always sort of talking and how is it going? what do you think? when people die or they're in need you say oh, if you need anything, just let me know. what can we do for you guys? is there anything? >> that's like been the topic of discussion that i've been having with my rabbi, you know. it's a really weird thing. this is not a typical -- this is not like when someone dies, you
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know. my mom is missing. you know, we are on pins and needles. we are working tirelessly. we're not really able to grieve because there is no confirmation. it very confusing on what to do. we know that time is of the essence, you know, everybody can follow me on social media but, you know, we're going to create a fund, you know, my dad lost all his belongings, he has no clothes. he went on a business trip. he has a small carry on suitcase. all of our family belongings, heirlooms. i really wanted to wear the dress my mom wore to my wedding at some point in my life. i can't do that. i can't give things to my kids from my mom. so we're going to create a fund. it should be live tomorrow, actually, and, you know, that is what we can do right now because we need to rebuild something but
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there will be a time where we'll be able to figure out more. we're just in this really weird waiting period. >> well, we'll say your name so people know. judy spei gle, everyone is wishing the best for you and rachel. your mom is a beautiful lady and we're certainly hoping for the best for you and if there is anything we can do, rachel, just let us know. i don't know. i'm just the news guy but if there is anything that anybody out there can do, we'll certainly get it to you and you just let us know. okay? i'm so sorry. >> thank you. >> so sorry. thank you. >> me, too, thank you. >> your entire family, okay. for ways you can help surfside in this building collapse, the victims, go to cnn.com/impact. cnn.com/impact. and we'll be back.
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the house is set to vote as soon as wednesday for nancy pelosi's felonplan to investigae january 6th insurrection. there will be eight. republican congressman adam kinzinger saying i prefer this to be bipartisan and a january 6th commission. you know my party blocked it so joining me is matthew the former chief sftrategists for former president. i got to be honest. glad you're on. hard to conduct an interview after that last one, you know. just so -- it's just so sad. >> i'll hold your hand. i'll hold your hand. >> i know. let's go on and talk about this because this is important. it's what happened to the country, as well. republicans can complain all they want but as kinzinger
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points out, they rejected a bipartisan commission. if speaker pelosi appointments a republican, something she's considering someone like kinzinger or cheney, what kind of message would that send? >> well, you know, it's interesting to me and as i was listening to that very powerful interview you just did, i was thinking about this symbolically. obviously, the tragedy in florida with the building falling down but we actually have the same situation on democracy here, right? because we haven't tended to the structures and do what we need to do to build it up in the ways we could have done and had an incident that happens on january 6th and like you would do in florida when a tragedy happens, you want to investigate and make sure it doesn't happen again. we're not even doing that related to democracy in the u.s. constitution and what happened on january 6th or the rep republicans don't want that done. it compounds the tragedy and
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actually makes it even worse because now we know there is a warning signal. republicans, a few, a very few that don't represent republicans anymore is important to keep in mind is those people like adam kinzinger and others don't represent the republican party anymore and i think they know that so we have a legacy party that has no interest in investigating why this structure of our democracy fell down in the midst of that tragedy. >> the former president barack obama also bringing up january 6 th push for voting rights and i want to talk about those comments again and then we'll talk about it. here it is. >> as bad as january 6th was, if we had a repeat in future elections in which, let's say, the republican controlled pennsylvania legislature decided we're not going to certify all those votes coming out of philadelphia because we think that those urban votes are
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shady. imagine what would have happened. we would have had a worse constitutional crisis than we did. >> so, matthew, to his point, what happens next time if there aren't election officials willing to stand up for democracy? look at these laws being passed around the country where they can select the legislators, can select whoever they want and decide the election. >> well, don, to me, of all of the things and there are so many bad parts of these bills getting passed from election restrictions to impediments making it all bad but this is the worst part and this is the part we have to fight the most, which is basically election null null -- nullification.
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they can go to a court to throw it out or state legislature to throw it out. that to me is the -- all bad, that's the worst part of this and that's the scariest part of this that we get in a situation. they could do it in 2022 elections in the midst of this and definitely do it in ele electoral college vote and presidential elections and that's the part we absolutely have to fix because once that happens, don, we don't have a democracy anymore. >> right. >> we no longer have a democracy and that's why i've said this is the most perilous moment since 1861. i believe that. i'm a zen person and i'm not being dramatic. we're at that kind of point in our country's history. >> i don't disagree with you. as i said before, break glass moment. just real quickly, i just want to get to you, what do you think about -- i have a short time left. sorry about that. the infrastructure talks.
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what do you think will happen? >> i think the president will get a bipartisan package. the only question is if he'll get the second package. my worry and i'll connect these, my worry is that this gives people an out not to do what we really need done and i agree with the infrastructure part. i think it needs to be done but it's to me secondary to what we need to do to fix our democracy and protect voting rights and make sure that doesn't happen. if by passing that gives people an escape valve not to do the voting rights, the infrastructure thing is a mistake if that happens. >> thank you very much, sir. appreciate it. >> thanks, don, take care. >> you, as well. a joint chief screaming match, a top donald trump official blew up on donald trump in a fight full of obscenities. why? we'll tell you next.
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starting at $39.98*. so take this. new reporting says the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, general mark milley, got into a screaming match with then-president trump over a military campaign to quash last summer's racial protests. axios obtained information from an upcoming book by "the wall street journal"'s michael bender. president trump wanted to put general milley, quote, in charge. it escalated to a screaming match between the two that went down like this. i said you're in f-ing charge, and milley yelled, that's not the case.
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the former president denies the exchange ever happened. just last week general milley became a target of the gop for rebuking the bad faith effort by republicans to make critical race theory a wedge issue. >> on the issue of critical race theory et cetera, i'll have to get much smarter on whatever the theory is. but i do think it's important, actually, for those of us in uniform to be open-minded and be widely read. and the united states military academy is a university, and it is important that we train and we understand. and i want to understand white rage. and i'm white. and i want to understand it. so what is it that caused thousands of people to assault this building and try to overturn the constitution of the united states of america? what caused that? i want to find that out. >> and now general milley is getting attacked from the right, including by tucker carlson, who called him a "pig." hmm. so much for respecting the
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rescue teams discovering another body today in the rubble of a collapsed condo building in florida. 11 people now confirmed dead. 150 others remain unaccounted for. the search and rescue operation continuing at this hour. and also tonight, as president biden calls for a federal investigation into the deadly collapse, the town of surfside, florida hiring a structural engineer to begin examining the evidence to get to the bottom of the disaster. and it turns out an engineering firm wrote a report on the building, this was back in 2018, warning of major
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