handled right and they don't get a commission and they don't have discipline and they don't bring in all the assets and marshall it, it's going to be ugly and that isn't right. so let's be together. that's what being an american is all about. we can be better and we will be better if we are together. thank you for the opportunity. the big show, "don lemon tonight" with the star d. lemon. >> an interesting conversation i had with the daughter of one of the people missing. she said we're realistic. there is so much smoke. there's fire. chances are, we know, not good, but we just want closure. and i thought about that a lot over the last 24 hours, about what they want and what is needed. remember, chris, we both covered 9/11. the last person just being honest was pulled out 27 hours after the towers fell. it's been -- >> alive. >> alive. it's been six days.

and i would hope that there are people there, but you speak to every single expert, and the possibility is just not there. >> listen, we all get it. here is my head space on it. i'll hold out for a miracle because there is no downside to doing it. >> hold out for a miracle. i agree. >> i don't think that's being abusive of the victims. they hold their own head and heart. i'm not holding out am miracle for answers. that is about pressure and time and we are learning there were things to know, and there is a system at a minimum that did not work well enough here about inspections, safety, and forcing the hand of a building to do what it may or may not deem cost effective in the moment. >> i agree. i think that -- >> that we have to do. >> i do. i think the folks there need something and i'm just repeating what he said. she wants something.

she wants either her loved one to be found. that would be the ultimate alive, and to go on and lead a fulfilling life. >> would be a miracle. >> would be a miracle. she also if that doesn't happen, she wants to be able to have something so that she and her family can come together and celebrate the life that once was. >> there are 200 people on that building right now. >> trying to do it. >> what's left of it trying to give her exactly that and they are working their butts off. i know it for a fact. >> i just said -- she said to me in the commercial breaks and other folks said to me, you guys don't have to be on television to give us false hope and they're happy we're at least trying to give them some answers about what is going on and the process and what could happen. so yes, we would all love a miracle. at this point, it has been six days, and it is time for the folks there to either celebrate a life that has been found or to

be able to celebrate a life that has been lost. >> yeah. >> and so, you know. >> look, there is a dignity in that they are due. again, i'm not in control of that. >> yeah. >> what i'm in control of is slapping at every door that we can and make sure that people are doing this. i'll tell you, i don't like hearing government officials say we need answers but they haven't put anything in process yet to get answers. >> to get any answers. >> and it has to start and it has to be done the right way and it has to happen soon so we'll stay on it. >> i got a lot of people there from down in that community to talk to tonight. i have great guests. i have dr. anthony fauci to talk about the delta variant. >> d. lemon, i love ya. >> good night. a dangerous day and night in surfside. our hearts are with the folks there. they want some -- they want to know something. i hate the term closure but

that's kind of what they want. rescuers are ducking falling debris there. there is rain forecast for every day for the next several days, lightning a constant risk as they are essentially standing on a huge piece of metal, lightning rod, right? they're still out there digging around the clock. more than 3 million pounds of concrete already removed from that site. more than 800 responders from 60 agencies assisting with the search for any sign of the 149 people still unaccounted for as the death toll rises to 12 tonight. dispatch audio coming out of a first responder, a first responder, not the first responrespond er arriving on the scene. people still standing on balconies begging for help. the first responder saying it almost resembles the trade center. >> we have a 13-story building with host most of the building . this building does not look

stable. we have people standing upstairs that need to be evacuated. i see many people on the balconies. the building is gone. there is no elevators. there is nothing. i mean, it almost resembles the trade center. >> there you go. rescue teams looking for clues in the rubble to where the bedrooms might be assuming that residents would have been sleeping at the time of that collapse. they're looking for carpet since the bedrooms were carpeted. they are also finding personal items in that rubble. >> i was talking to one of the first responders and they found a birthday card. nobody is going to let that get lost. >> in the midst of this tragedy, the questions are more and more urgent tonight. what caused this? who is responsible? who is in charge. the mayor of miami-dade county would support the opening of a grand jury invest st vgages inte

collapse and causes. a structural engineer hired by the town of surfside has 30 theories what could have triggered the condo to collapse. joe and jill biden expected to travel to surfside on thursday. that as the president made a trip to wisconsin today to promote his bipartisan infrastructure deal calling it a generational investment, one that proves democracy still wo works. >> this deal is a signal to ourselves and to the world that american da emocracy can come through for the people. >> that deal is not at the finish line yet as joe biden's former boss is speaking out today warning about the dangers of the spread of misinformation in america that can agree on basic facts. >> but to see not only a riot in

the capitol around what historically had been a routine process of certifying an election but to know that one of our two mayor political parties, a strong majority of people in those parties actually believed that in a falsehood about those election results the degree to which misinformation is now desi deda sim -- disseminated in warp speed and the guard rails i thought were in place around many democratic institutions really depend on the two parties agreeing to the ground rules, those guard rails and one of them right now doesn't seem as

committed to them as in previous generations. that worries me and i think we should all be worried. >> the former president is right. we should all be worried at this point if you haven't seen the impact of misinformation from the pandemic to the insurrection then you haven't been paying attention really. we seen what happens when misinformation who know it's all a lie those people do nothing until it's too late. people like the then attorney general who went along with the big lie for months. >> there is no motive no surprise it but my suspicion was there was nothing there. spreading the big lie and let it

happen the speed. the storm the seat of the gover government. >> we have seen what happens when the elected representatives whitewash even our own lives were in danger. >> it was no insurrection to call it an insurrection propaganda and lies at the national security state as a result of the d orkoj. >> supporters who lost their lives who were taking the lives of others.

>> there have been things worse than having firearms coming into a building. >> i mean, they should be ashamed of themselves. we've heard from the american heroes and what they think. >> i'm not a politician. i'm not an elected official. i don't expect anybody to give two shits about my opinions but i will say this, you know, those are lies and peddling that bullshit is an assault on every

officer that fought to defend the capitol. it's disgraceful. >> and that is indeed why that vote tomorrow to establish a select commit tee to investigat january 6th is so important. americans need to know the truth about what happened on one of the worst days in this country's history. that's right. one of the worst days in this country. we can't let republican deniers sweep that truth under the rug like they tried to do when they refuse to debate and now gop leadership is claiming the select committee will be partisan. you know what? you had your chance. you did. you chad your chance to vote fo an independent commission and guess what? you didn't want the truth to come out. the american people can't handle the truth. so stop whitewashing. stop misinforming.

stop upholding. start upholding your oaths i should say and do your damn jobs. so next we're going to go to florida where the search and rescue mission is going on around the clock right now and the mayor of surfside says they're not giving up hope. >> a woman was pulled from the ruins of a factory in bangladesh 17 days after it collapsed. so i think as the governor said earlier, nobody in the area is giving up hope here.

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tonight, the death toll from the catastrophic condo collapse in florida rising to 12. local officials say 149 people still unaccounted for and six days after the collapse, full search and rescue operations continuing but we're learning there were plenty of warning signs about the building's physical condition. i want to bring in mayor charles of surfside, florida. thank you so much. how are you doing? >> happy to be here. a little tired. >> i can only imagine. again, appreciate you're here. rescue teams are painstakingly searching through the rubble and the missing is 149. doesn't mean that many were there. just unaccounted for. we just don't know. we're at the end of six days of day six, you say no one is

giving up hope but are you worried, though, it may be false hope for these families after so many days? >> i'm not really worried it would be false hope. we have an obligation and duty to get them out of the rubble. you know, whether that's right or wrong, i think that's not productive. i think the only thing to do is to focus on bringing them out now and focus on that for the next day and the next day and next day until they're all out. >> amen. you said right from the beginning that buildings just don't fall, they don't just fall down in america. when you see this letter sent a few months ago warning that damage in the building had gotten significantly worse since the 2018 inspection, were these warnings not taken seriously? >> they obviously weren't taken seriously. and i think, you know, i think more over, i'll venture to bet

that no one ever thought if the maintenance wasn't done on the buildings they wouldn't fall down like that but i'm sure we'll never think that again. >> listen, we don't know, right? we don't know. i think the main thing we don't know is, you know, we have the inspection and whatever people can say, looks like the medal was rusting and the concrete, you know, was damaged and all of that. but we don't know what's going on beneath the surface there if there is -- what kind of emotion there could be. you have hurricanes. you have erosion, all kinds of things happening beneath the building. that's certainly a huge factor and it is an unknown at this point. >> it really is and i think that, you know, that is one thing, one of many that the engineers will look at. they will look at what the condition of the pilings were in because those pilings are the legs that hold the building up and if those legs are weakened

for any reason, that present as gigantic problem and as we could see something gave way from the bottom and i think that's going to be one of the first places they're going to look. >> there was construction next door that had recently been completed. any concerns about that? >> yeah, you know, i've got concerns about everything. i mean, but, you know, construction next to existing buildings is quite typical. it's not unusual. i know that the units in that building, the owners reported lots of vibration. i think we all heard that. i'm not sure if that's unusual, either, but i'm going to be listening very carefully to what the engineers have to say about that. i know the dade county mayor said that she's convening tomorrow i believe it is, a meeting with state federal and local officials to go over an immediate checklist for buildings in the area put

together a prescription for people to go through their buildings to ensure minimum safety standards and i support that. >> the president of the united states joe biden planning to visit surfside on thursday and going to visit with families and first responders. are you planning to meet with him and what do you hope to hear? >> i'm looking forward to thanking him for calling me early in this crisis. i'm looking forward to thanking him for cutting the red tape and i'm looking forward to thanking him for making all of the resources available that he did. you know, i'm going to tell him that we don't have a resource problem anymore but we just have a luck problem. we just got to start getting a little more lucky pulling people out of the rubble. >> for transparency, i want to tell viewers at home we were talking in the break you're going to get a little sleep, as much as you can and you're back at it first thing tomorrow. >> 6:00. >> mayor, thank you. really appreciate your time and

greatw work. >> appreciate you getting the word out. weeks ago the champlain towers board president said extensive roof repairs are needed. i'll speak with someone that owns a condo in the tower about what he saw and what they were told. ves the table until your finished. fine, we'll sleep here. ♪ it's the easiest because it's the cheesiest. kraft. for the win win.

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tonight a structural engineer hired by surfside, florida telling cnn he and his colleagues are looking for what he calls the trigger event that brought the tower down also saying the investigation will take a long time and that engineers will look at all possible scenarios for what may have caused the collapse. john torres joins me now. he is an owner at a condo in the condo building but he wasn't there. he was here in new york. his unit is still standing but everything around it is gone. john, thank you. sorry about your neighbors and friends there. appreciate you join us this evening. you've had this condo for, what,

16 years now? >> 16 years in may. >> you were down there when you got the april letter from the condo board talking about the damage to the building accelerating and explaining there was going to be a $15 million assessment. was it clear to you between the letter and what you seen firsthand that the building was in bad shape? what did you think? >> yeah, i really thought the building was in bad shape. new year's eve of 2018 it was brought to my attention by somebody that said it was a contractor and showed me structural cracks on my side of the building. he blamed it on the building next door when they were putting pilings in. he showed me there was cracks on the side wall on the side of the pool and he was mapping this out for me in the sand. it was new year's eve and that was the last time i saw this guy. >> he said it was a building next door. this is -- listen, this is what he believes and not been

investigated or confirmed or anything but because of the pilings next door he believes that it undermined the structural integrity of that building? >> well, at that time on december 31st, 2018, that was his spin on it and when we were there for the week and a half for the holiday weekend, every time these guys would pound, we had shaking because i was right next to it because my unit is in the nine line where they were putting up the building next door behind the pool. but when we got there on april 17th, the first thing we saw was an envelope under my door and that was the envelope everybody is talking about with the assessment and when i went to the manager and i says what's this about? he says well your share is $115,000. you can pay now up front or take 15 years at $948 a month to pay off the loan. >> wow. wow.

wow. wow. that's a big assessment. that is a big assessment. >> very big. that $948 plus the $850 a month in maintenance, i had no mortgage but i told this guy this is like having a mortgage. >> yeah, it is. for some people in america as you know that's like having a number of different mortgages. a couple different mortgages. let me ask you, so the garage in the building is underground, right? >> yes. >> okay. now was there always standing water? was there always water in the garage from the time you were there or something that was recent? >> i would say the last ten or 12 years i always noticed there was water. i was telling somebody that there was big fans from like years ago that you haven't seen were going 24 hours a day. i assume it was to have the place dried, but that was going on for a long time. i mean, i parked my car and half the time i came down it was always wet. there were pipes leaking. the ceiling was leaking.

there was water on the floor. these maintenance guys are running around trying to fix it but they were just maintenance guys. >> yeah. >> i'm not sure they know where this water was coming from. >> that was happening for step years even before the construction? >> correct. >> you say there was a constant turnover with the condo board and friction how to deal with everything. do you think that contributed to things not getting fixed sooner? >> absolutely. it was almost like, you know, i'm here from new york and every -- it was condo board here seems to be very strict. the condo boards down in florida don't seem to be as strict as here. i'm not quite sure why. i know i only went -- >> there is no place in america that's as strict as new york city condo boards. you know that. maybe that's a good thing now that we're thinking about it. >> exactly. there was one meeting and one meeting only i went to and everyone was yelling and

screaming and i said i don't know, this ain't for me. i says let me pay my maintenance and keep my mouth shut and go about my business and go down seven, eight times a year and enjoy myself. it was a constant turnover every time i went down there was a new manager, always somebody new like what happened to what's his name? >> what happened to what's his name? what do you mean? >> you go down and see somebody you know and come back and you vaguely remember who the guy was and so you just used to kid around and say i'll never forget what's his name? >> got it. i get what you're saying. one quick question before you go, do you think that other folks, other buildings in the area should be concerned about -- or do you think this was specific to that building? >> i really don't know. i would think because there was three schamplain tower building built around the same time, i've never been in any of the other

buildings. from the outside they seem to be -- it was more up to date than what we had but i couldn't tell. i mean, i never went inside these buildings. from the outside, there was more improvements done there than being down in our building. >> did you lose anyone you know that's unaccounted for? >> i lost a lot of people. there was a lady right across from me in 4 11 i used to talk to her and when i see these photos, the terrance is still standing, she's not there. there was this little girl emma whenever i used to walk my dog she would come running out of the pool and grab my dog and hug him and i understand they just found her father and i'm afraid what happened to her, her sister and mother. she is 4 years old. i mean, that's not right. >> john, thank you so much. so sorry and i hear your wife, somebody in the background talking to you, give my regards. thank you so much. >> thank you very much. president joe biden is trying to get a deal across the

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house republicans not whipping tomorrow's foovote to investigate the capitol insurrection however, big however, the office of congressman steve scalise will send gop members a leadership recommendation to vote no. will any republicans vote for the come hitty -- commicommittee? with me now john kasich. how are you? >> don, you know, all of these discussions on politics and i know you agree with this seem so trite when you thuink about wha is happening in miami. people waiting, people grieving, it's just -- and everybody can

relate to this, right? we all go into buildings. we all have loved ones that, you know, one minute they're fine and we worry what will happen the next minute. it's just a terrible situation. >> it is a terrible situation but you know what? this is what happens when people, as you heard, the man john torres who owns a condo in the building, he says according to him, nobody could ever agree on anything. everybody was talking over each other. that is what is happening in washington. nobody is listening and talking at each other instead of with each other. look, republicans could have an independent bipartisan commission but republicans sabotaged it from get-go so now have they forfeited the right to complain about this one that the select one that they're trying to come up with? >> i think they're going to complain. the interesting twist on this i saw were nancy pelosi was actually thinking about appointing a republican to the

commission. i don't know what they'll do. the whole commission should have been approved from get-go and, you know, pa loelosi made it cl i'll create a select committee. there was an effort to make it a bipartisan committee and bipartisan investigation, which should have occurred and, you know, the fact that the republicans are getting exactly what they asked for. >> well, and steve scalise said he wants people to vote no. listen, i just want to read an excerpt from an article by john at the national review. okay? it's titled "biden is blowing a golden political opportunity" and he writes, president biden had an opportunity this week to lead his party back to a productive political path by calling out the democrats excesses speaking on the issue of rising crime and holding the cards to cut a bipartisan deal on infrastructure. he could have broken away from the radical defund the police crowd and challenge voices in his own party who oppose any

compromise on spending legislation. now, listen, i get the crux of it and i want to ask the question but what he's actually saying, his premises is not true. joe biden is not a defund the police person. not the position of the party. not joe biden's position. it not any political leader i had on. when i had ayanna pressley on last week she wouldn't embrace defund the police. the idea of biden breaking away from the defund the police crowd is a false premise on this. listen, i know you haveinfrastr come together and still on track but are you concerned about the way biden is handling this? >> well, first of all, don, i think the gentleman's point on this the police need bucked up a little bit in this country. we need police reform and better training but i got to tell you, law enforcement people feel they're not getting the support and i think the joe biden and very clear terms should have

said we're for the police. and all this discussion about defunding or cutting departments, they did cut -- >> johnny has said he's for the police. >> yeah -- >> he said that numerous times. >> i agree with him. i don't think he's been very strong about that. he's not been as tough as eric adams that might be the mayor of new york. in terms of this, in terms of the infra stustructure deal he a deal and then it's tied to another deal. i've been disappointed in what i've seen and look, he ran as a guy to bring us together. and he ran as a guy to not try to promote some sort of extreme agenda and i think he should embrace this infrastructure deal and negotiate. there are other parts of the big deal that has merit and he ought to sit down with republicans and give a little bit like they have an infrastructure.

>> one day because i have to go, one more thing, this is -- we're talking about this policing bill. the last day in june, the second deadline to get a policing bill done. the first was the anniversary of george floyd's killing. cnn says there is a new timeline that goes through august. is this a bad sign for all of the other agenda issues for joe biden that this policing deal is not actually coming through in a way that he wanted it? >> i think he should weigh in and make sure that we get a deal and don, what this is all about is training. you talked -- you know this. you talk to law enforcement people. a lot of them are leaving, retiring, quitting and that doesn't mean we don't need cleanup with police in many cases -- in some cases and that gets down to training and holding them accountable and so i think he ought to really put his or in the water and let's get a police bill done so that police can continue to do their job and we also are in a position of holding those accountable who have abused their position. so i think biden needs to be

stronger on this. that's my view. >> all right. thank you very much. that's why we have you here for your view. john, aprapreciate it. see you next time. the most populace county says mask up because of a contagious variant that makes up 26% of cases in the u.s. dr. anthony fauci is here to tell us what he recommends, that's next. ake you leave your acne alone. but we can help get rid of the spots that your acne left behind. differin dark spot correcting serum has the maximum-strength dark spot-fading power you can get without a prescription. do things differin.

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new concerns able the spread of a more dangerous and ch transmissible strain of the coronavirus, the delta variant making up more than 26% of cases in the country. the rapid spread prompting officials in los angeles county to recommend masks inside even

if you've been vaccinated. it's an important night to speak with the country's top infectious disease expert none other than dr. anthony fauci. thank you. so glad you're here to discuss this. appreciate it. >> thank you, don, good to be with you. >> we have been told by modmode, both moderna and pfizer vaccines work against these new strains like the delta variant so why are places like l.a. county recommending masks again even if you've been vaccinated? >> well, first of all, the cdc recommendation remains the way it is if you are vaccinated, and you are in the situation where you know you're protected against delta by about 88% against symptomatic disease and over 90% against severe disease for the most part you can feel safe about a mask indoor or outdoor. you're going to find some local groups understandably who might have a degree of viral dynamics

that they want to be doubly sure and do that but from the standpoint of the country as a whole, we should feel good about that. now there will be some people and they may be people who just don't really want to take any kind of a risk because remember, not every vaccine, the two mrna vac vaccines, they are about 88% effective against clinical disease and over 90% effective against severe disease so novak seen is 100% effective. so i believe there are going to be states and cities and counties who may on their own say the better part is to be more cautious but as a general recommendation, the cdc feels we should keep things the way they are. if you're vaccinated, you're safe. it highly unlikely we'll get infected and certainly very unlikely you'll get seriously ill if you do get infected so they have not changed the original recommendation. >> help me understand this.

you said they're not changing. you don't think the mask guidance will change. is l.a. county going against the cdc guidance or they're just being overly cautious in an abundance of caution? >> yeah, you know, don, i don't think we should be thinking of going against the guidance. i think there is a degree and there should be a degree of flexibility and discretion distributed against the country. there will be some regions that feel given the dynamics of the state, city, county that they just want to be extra specially careful. they want to go that extra mile of care. you got to separate what the broad erier recommendations are there will be varying eligibility. that's fine. there is nothing about that that's bad. the country looks for the broad er recommendation and some will follow it exactly and some will adhere from it a bit. that kind of flexibility is okay. >> all right. i got it. i got it. i understand now.

the "wall street journal" is reporting about half of those infected with this delta variant in israel were fully vaccinated. what's going on with that, doctor? >> yeah, be careful. you got to know what the denominator is, don. if you have a very, very high you're going to get people infected because as i mentioned it's 88% effective against clinical disease and probably less against asymptomatic disease. so when you have the majority of the population vaccinated, when you have infections, it's going to look like, wow, 50% of the infections were vaccinated. that doesn't mean the vaccine is losing its efficacy. it just means the denominator of vaccinated people is so large that when there are going to be infections they likely will be among vaccinated people. but you're still having a vaccine that's 88% effective against clinical disease and 98%

effective against severe disease. >> how effective are each of the three vaccines in the united states against the delta variant? i don't know if you can tell us specifically. and the more contagious variant doesn't create a viral load enough to infect people? >> well, first of all, the three being used are the two mrna vaccines, the moderna and the pfizer. those are very likely going to be around 88% against clinically apparent disease and a bit above 90% effective against severe disease. j&j we don't have formal data yet to say that they're in that high category, but there's circu circumstantial evidence that suggests it will be okay because the j&j vaccine when it was tested against variants that were in southern africa, in

south africa did really quite well against a variant that is probably as bad or even worse in many respects than the delta variant. also and probably the most important explanation, don, is that the astrazeneca vaccine, which is used in the context of the delta variant, was shown with two doses to be about 88% effective. the vaccine of j&j is just about the same type of vaccine. it's the same type of a platform, an anti-virus vector as the az. so you can make a reasonable assumption if the az is good against the delta, the j&j even if you haven't formally proved it is highly likely going to be just as good against the delta variant. >> okay, so i was kind of joking

with some guys as we were walking to work today and we were talking about the delta variant. and i said i'm just going to get another pfizer shot and i'll be doubly vaccinated, just kind of -- in all seriousness is there some truth to that? people who have taken the j&j vaccine might some of us need a booster for this delta variant? >> don, that's a great question. and in fact some people are doing that. some very competent physicians, health care providers are recommending that. the problem is at this point in time we don't have formal scientific evidence or data to say that it's safe and effective. from the standpoint of what we know about these vaccines it's likely that it is. it's likely it is safe and it's likely going to need to a boost. in order to get a formal recommendation from a regulatory

agency from the fda or an agency like the cdc you want to get data in a clinical trial, and we don't have that yet. that's the reason you're not seeing formal recommendations about boosting mrna super imposed upon a j&j. >> doctor, i want you to standby because we're going to take a quick break. we're going to have more from dr. anthony fauci right after this. way for you to sell your car. whether it's a year old or a few years old. we wanna buy your car. so go to carvana and enter your license plate answer a few questions. and our techno wizardry calculates your car's value and gives you a real offer in seconds. when you're ready, we'll come to you, pay you on the spot and pick up your car, that's it. so ditch the old way of selling your car, and say hello to the new way at carvana.

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back now with dr. anthony fauci, director of the national institute ofurgy and infectious diseases. doctor, let's talk about young people now. these hot spots in missouri, younger people are being hospitalized much more than we saw during the winter surge. do people need to rethink the dangers of this virus for children now that this delta variant is here and kids under 12 have no protection since they can't be vaccinated yet? >> don, you hit it right on the head. that's exactly what we need to

be concerned about. we're seeing more and more younger people getting infected and even getting significantly ill. still the statistics tell you that it's much more likely for an elderly person or someone with an underlying disease to get seriously ill. but this vaccine, this virus -- excuse me -- infects young people. clearly when you look at the infection rate among young people in a virus that we've been dealing with prior to the delta, it looks like it's considerably more. one of the reasons for that is we know as a fact, not conjecture but as a fact that this virus spreads more efficiently from person to person. and it also leads to more severe disease. so it is not surprising that we're seeing more younger people not only getting infected but getting seriously ill. >> dr. fauci, should vaccinated parents feel confident that they can't get a low level infection

with the delta variant and potentially pass it to their kids? >> no. actually, it is possible that you will see people who are infected get break through infections despite the fact that they're vaccinated. in general when you have a break through infection with a vaccinated person, the level of virus in the nasal pharynx is lower if you have an asymptomatic infection with someone who's not vaccinated. we haven't proven yet how much diminution there is in someone else including children. that's one of the reasons why you've got to be careful when you're dealing with something like the delta variant, you want to make sure you get vaccinated. if your children are not old enough to get vaccinated, when they're out there in the community, they should be wearing a mask if they're too young to get vaccinated. >> s