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learn the identities of the victims. before we leave you tonight, we want to take a moment to remember some of those lost in this truly horrific disaster. and you can see the names and the ages of those who have been identified by the authorities. our deepest condolences to their families, may they rest in peace and as we say, may their memories be a blessing. "outfront" next bill cosby is breaking his silence as a freeman tonight after a pennsylvania court over ruled his sex assault conviction. one of cosby's accusers joins me. >> the trump organization and a top trump executive who worked for the trump family for nearly 50 years facing criminal charges tomorrow. what does this mean for former president trump? new video of the moments just before the florida condo
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collapse showing water and debris in the garage, what it tells us about a possible cause. let's go "outfront". good evening, i'm poppy harlow in for erin burnett. bill cosby breaking his silence speaking out hours after he became a freeman when his sexual assault conviction was overturned. cosby tweeting quote i have never changed my stance nor my story. i've always maintained my innocence. thank you to all my fans, supporters and friends that stood by me through this ordeal. special thanks to the pennsylvania supreme court for upholding the rule of law. cosby's tweet after he was silence at a press conference tonight where his legal team hailed the decision. >> we said from day one we just didn't think he was treated fairly and that -- the system has to be fair. and fortunately, the supreme court agreed with us. he's happy. his wife is happy. the system only works if it's fair to all sides.
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that's the bottom line. >> the disgraced actor released from prison earlier today after a stunning ruling from the pennsylvania supreme court his sexual assault conviction violated his due process rights. now, despite the fact that cosby admitted during a 2005 civil lawsuit that he did give queue l quaaludes to women he wanted to are sex with. cosby was sentenced from three to ten years in 2018 for drugging and sexual assaulting andrea constand at his home in 2004. it was the first major case of the me too era and a major fall from grace for the man once considered america's dad for the role on the "cosby show" he played. more than 50 women accused cosby of sexual assaulting or raping them. including 35 accusers who agreed to sit down, talk and be photographed for this powerful cover of "new york magazine" in a few minutes i'll speak with lisa, one of the women who accused cosby of drugging and
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sexual assaulting her. she testified at his trial but first, jason carroll is out front and jason, a stunning turn of events today. >> yeah, absolutely stunning, poppy when you consider it was last month that cosby was denied bail after serving some three years in prison. his attorneys, those who represent him came out here a short while ago earlier this evening basically saying that his conviction was really all about the court of public opinion and politics. also saying that what happened with the state supreme court was a win not only for cosby but for anyone that's been wronged by the legal system. walking free, bill cosby leaving prison after pennsylvania's highest court vacated his sentence after being released this afternoon, the court deciding prosecutors violated
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his due process right writing the subsequent decision by successor d.a. to prosecute cosby violate the the rights and he must be discharged and any future prosecution on these particular charges must be barred. according to the court, cosby was originally promised immunity in exchange for testimony in a civil case a decade later, a different prosecutor used that testimony against him in his criminal trial. >> we said from day one, we just didn't think he was treated fairly and the system has to be fair, and fortunately, the supreme court agreed with us. >> in 2018, cosby was sentenced to three to ten years in state prison for drugging and sexual assaulting andrea constand. that conviction came after a mistrial on the same charges. cosby once known as america's dad has long fought for his release being denied appeal in 2019 and denied parole just last month. his conviction was the first
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high profile scelebrity case in the me too era. >> guilty, guilty, guilty! >> and his release dealing a blow to the multiple women who accused him of sexual assault. a lawyer for three of the accusers tweeting he is not released because he is innocent. he is released because a prosecutor promised him years ago he would not be brought to justice. andrea constand the woman at the center of the criminal case and her lawyers releasing a statement saying in part today's majority decision regarding bill cosby is not only disappointing but of concern. despite the ultimate outcome, which resulted from a procedural technicality and we urge all victims to have their voices heard. but cosby does have some support in former co-star felicia rashad that tweeted finally a terrible wrong is being righted. a miscarriage of justice is corrected. again, cosby is at home resting with his supporters, his wife
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camille is resting with him, as well. we're also told that earlier today out here not just those people supporting bill cosby. there were a number of folks out here also who were supporting the accuseders. they were vocal and one saying poppy that what happened. >> thank you very much. lisa and a suite to the las vegas hilton in 1999 was one of five women that testified during cosby's trial in 2018, cosby has denied all of these allegations. thank you for being here this evening. >> thank you, poppy. >> look, you bravely came forward with your accusations against cosby. you took the stand. you testified. you were so nervous in doing so. you sat in your trembling hands i remember that and today he is
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a freeman, the pennsylvania supreme court says that he cannot be tried again in this case. what did you think when you heard that? >> honestly, it's of course devastating. it doesn't make him innocent. so this is something i had a conversation with my husband for the past six months that there is a possibility that he could get off on a technicality, which we've seen this in the past before. a technicality doesn't make you innocent. it just means that something went wrong in the system. and this is a part of why we fight to change laws to change statute of limitations. why would anyone even have a statute on personal harm? you know what i'm saying? it doesn't make sense. everything is from an old way of thinking. you know what i mean?
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again, he's still profestsing he's innocent but he's not innocent. he's a notorious rapist and he just got away with it and this just sets back victims for wanting to come forward and give their voice because they feel like if you have enough money and you have enough time and money to work with someone that will help you and you can pay them, you can get off just about on anything. so it's just a new fight that we have to go back to. >> i wonder then because for you it must have been scary to come forward in the face of all of that and i wonder seeing what has happened now and you talk about what this will mean for victims in the future, are you still glad you came forward? >> absolutely 100%. laws have been changed in the state of nevada. we've inspired the laws changed in california, and it was abolished in colorado.
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the women work together to do all this. all of us worked together. we've made change but there is more change to be made and this is just another platform that we have to get over and hopefully, we can get america, we can get people out there outraged with this to come together and start making these changes. >> what resource do you believe you have because again, it was so clear in that opinion from the pennsylvania supreme court that he cannot ever be tried again on this case? >> yes, but bill cosby is not the bill cosby he was before. he did spend time in jail. time is time. he can never get that back. he has become this infamous person versus a famous person and he's going to have to deal with that. his consequences aren't over. he still has to walk through all of this shame and all of this
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people's feelings and emotions that are related to this and hopefully, this is just the beginning of him having to deal with the consequences. changing more laws. getting more situations, you know, out into the open. victims coming forward in outrage and saying their truth and allowing people to make changes so they can be heard and have their rights. this just tells you again that we still have this some of these people still have this small thinking and again, it's just a technicality. it does not make him innocent in any way whatsoever. he did what he did. he admitted what he did on tape. you guys played that. used it in court. he did it. he's just walking around acting like he's innocent to everything and he's not. >> he didn't speak in that press conference tonight, but he did release a tweet and let me read it and get your thoughts. he said i never changed my stance or story. i've always maintained my
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innocence. thank you to my fans and supporters and fans that stood by me throughout this ordeal and thanks to the pennsylvania supreme court for upholding the rule of law. when you hear those words, what do you say back? >> this is why i go to the legislator and i fight for laws to be changed. the they're making changes based on information from a good ol' boys of old school type of situation and that needs to change. that doesn't help prosecutors. it doesn't help detectives. it doesn't help the police force. it doesn't help victims. the bottom line is we are more massive in numbers as survivors of these situations. and if we can collectively g get-tog get together we can make changes. it may not be a change to his lifestyle.
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there may be someone assaulted by him and hasn't come forward yet and still within the statute of limitations. if that person came forward, we would have another running chance at making sure that he pays even more for what he's actually done. because he is not innocent. he is far from innocent. but if someone is out there, maybe they're willing to come forward knowing there is hundreds and thousands of women and victims and men that have been assaulted and people who don't believe in this and want change to support that individual because i will. they can get ahold of me. i will. i will talk to every woman i know that's been a part of this and put in everything that we can to make sure that this situation gets resolved in an appropriate manner where the actual perpetrator is held responsible and accountable for every single act. that's what we need to do. >> thank you and i know you're a teacher and you have two teens at home and you said at the beginning of this your fight and
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working to change laws and protect you and you have done some of that already. thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you very much, poppy. appreciate it. >> of course. "outfront" now areva martin. good to have you. your legal perspective on this ruling from the pennsylvania supreme court. >> first, poppy, i was shocked like so many people expressed throughout this day with the ruling particularly since a prior appeal by bill cosby and his team was denied. at the heart of this court's opinion is this agreement that former d.a. made with the cosby team apparently, agreeing to not prosecute him and allowing him to move forward in a civil deposition and give testimony under oath. we know that agreement was highly disputed. the current prosecutor that actually prosecutor that prosecuted bill cosby took issue with the fact such a contract or agreement existing.
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we know the supreme court ruled in a way with respect to the contract that is contrary to two other courts in pennsylvania. look, this is a supreme court. they have spoken. i don't agree with the decision and i worry about the implications it might have bon victims. >> do you think -- that can be maintained. your point is an important one. however, do you see a legal ground for this decision based on the agreement that was made? >> i do not and i think it's bad precedent. we don't want prosecutors making side deals with defendants, deals that are not sanctioned by courts, deals that are not shared with victims, deals that are not shared with the people that elect -- >> no, i understand that. i'm saying based on what happened, do you believe there is a legal basis, precedent for the way the pennsylvania supreme court came down on this one.
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>> i think the trial judge allowed the testimony in from the trial judge. >> clear in reading the opinion tonight and no more trial. not really at the end of the road for cosby facing criminal charges at least in the case of andrea constand? >> oh, absolutely as you stated the supreme court in this 79-page opinion there are no more trials to be had with these allegations involving bill cosby. the question remains if there are other victims but the reality is 83 years old and served time but we will not see
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the prosecutors moving to trial with respect to miss constand's allegations. >> thank you. >> thanks, poppy. "outfront" next the january 6th insurrection with two republicans voting for that. joining democrats. this as jim acosta asks former president trump this today. >> will you apologize -- >> and the trump organization and top executive allen weisselberg facing criminal charges tomorrow from the manhattan district attorney plus breaking news from surfside, there are two children among the 18 now confirmed dead this as we have dramatic new video revealing the moments before and after the collapse. we made usaa insurance for members like martin. an air force veteran made of doing what's right, not what's easy. so when a hailstorm hit, usaa reached out before he could even inspect the damage.
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january 6th? >> jim acosta is "outfront" tonight in mcallen, texas. the former president still refusing to accept responsibility for the deadly insurrection smiling and giving a thumbs up in response to your question. >> reporter: yeah, absolutely. i mean, poppy we spent a day trapped in trump's alternate reality about the 2020 election. he was down here to meet with governor greg abbott of texas to talk about abbott's plan to spend $250 million on the boarder wall to fill in gaps in trump's border wall that weren't completed during the trump administration. trump used the day to continue spreading the big lie saying he was cheated out of the 2020 election and so on and abbott's people went to great lengths to keep reporters from asking questions of the former president and so at this event at the border wall it got quiet for a few seconds and i tried to ask the question do you apologize for what happened on january 6th? trump knew what was going on. he looked right at me and did not respond. that is when we heard boos from the crowd but keep in mind, this
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is not a crowd of trump supporters. this was a crowd of republican members of the house who skipped out on the vote today for the january 6th select committee that nancy pelosi, the house spoke speaker proposed instead they were down in texas kissing trump's ring. another example how we're not seeing profiles encouraged up on capitol hill on the republican side. we're seeing profiles in terms of what we saw today, poppy. >> it's such a telling picture, right? such an image representative of what is going on being with trump and the former president and carrying on the big lie and voting with this critical measure. >> reporter: absolutely. we know how they would have voted anyway. they would have voted no. i talked to congressman madison and considered trump to be a leader of the republican party and claimed to me at one point during the back and forth that
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yes, trump was cheated out of the 2020 election. so they're all parroting the big lie and another point, another congresswoman lauren bobert of colorado shouted out you won to donald trump. it was as if all of these republican members of congress would continue to live again in this alternate universe and reality that's been created by the former president that he in fact won the 2020 election. of course, we know there is nothing further than the 2rtrut. that is the continuation of the big lie. >> a dangerous one. look at dhs and the fbi are warning right now. jim acosta, thank you. >> reporter: absolutely. >> very much. >> reporter: you bet. >> let's get more and bring in jamie gangel. good evening to you. two house republicans voting in favor, liz cheney who did not hold back in a statement before the vote saying since january 6th, the courage of my party's leaders faded by the fate to the republic has not.
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the select committee is the only remaining option. very simply, jamie, what are her republican colleagues so afraid of? >> they're still afraid of donald trump. they're afraid of looking back and i think if you look at some of them, kevin mccarthy, the republican leader, he's afraid of being called to testify. but one of the things that i really found remarkable today even by washington standards was the excuse that many republicans gave for not voting for this was that it would be partisan. well, we know a couple weeks ago they could have voted for a bipartisan commission. they don't care if it's partisan. they don't care if it's bipartisan. they don't want it poppy and just one note, i spoke to several republican sources who said to me they thought it was very smart and nancy pelosi invited members of the capitol
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hill police and metropolitan police to sit in the gallery as her guests today. they also told me it was very embarrassing. >> very telling. >> right. >> jamie, you know, speaking of speaker pelosi, she'll get to pick eight members of this commission, house minority leader kevin mcelderryccarthy w to pick five. she hasn't said if she'll pick a republican or republicans. you would think one of them, do you know any insight into that? >> so my understanding from a senior democratic source with knowledge is that nancy pelosi is seriously considering picking one republican and to your point -- >> just one? >> just one. let me do the math for you because several people said to me why not two? why not pick both of them? there were 13 members. that means if she picks --
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>> i see. >> two, then there are seven republicans and six democrats. so that's not -- that's not going to happen but i think it is very likely that she will do it and it's quite apparent since only adam kinzinger and liz cheney voted for this select committee, it will be one of them. >> jamie, it's not going to happen but i mean, it would fend off any attacks on this is more democrats. >> 100%. i agree. it would be the ultimate maybe power move but what did we see today again? such a polarized political situation that only two republicans voted for. >> right. and a lot of others left town and went to the border with the former president, jamie, thank you. >> sure. "outfront" next the trump organization and trump's right hand man expected to be criminally charged tomorrow.
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whether appropriate taxes were paid on them. cara, you have two sources saying weisselberg is expected to turn himself in tomorrow. what more do you know? >> good evening, poppy. sources telling myself and my colleague that allen wise l burg will turn himself in tomorrow to authorities where he will later tomorrow face these criminal charges that have to do with benefits and compensation. in addition to weisselberg, the trump organization sources tell us will also be charged tomorrow with these tax related cases. this is -- this stems from this broad investigation that the manhattan district attorney cy vance and james started years ago and is focused on the compensation and whether the company and weisselberg paid the appropriate taxes on benefits including rent free apartments, company cars, school tuition and bonuses. this investigation is still on going, but tomorrow will be the
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arrangement for the company and alle allen weisselberg. weisselberg's attorney refused to comment. the trump organization will enter a plea of not guilty. poppy? >> any indication what this would mean or could mean for the former president? >> this investigation is still on going this is perhaps the first step. it possible this will be the only charges that come from this. but the investigation is on going. weisselberg will be indicted tomorrow sources tell us and that will only add to the pressure that he's facing. we'll know a lot more when we see the charges and what pressure that is if he decides to cooperate and has any information to share that could change the course of this investigation. >> cara, thank you for the reporting. let's bring in our senior legal analyst and the author of the very relevant new book on former attorney general bill barr. thank you for being here. let's start here. prosecutors incite tdict the tr organization, how much of a concern is that for donald trump? >> poppy, if you're donald trump
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this is a good news, bad news situation. the bad news is your company is about to get indicted. that means they're going to have a long, expensive difficult legal battle and if convicted they could have to pay major fines, restitution and could spend the end of the trump org. the good news is you're not going to jail based on an indictment of the trump org. no individual can go to jail based on an indictment of a corporation and if you're donald trump, it's reasonable to conclude at this point prosecutors don't believe they have enough or they're not ready to indict donald trump individually. i think it's a bit of a mixed bag for donald trump. >> prosecutors are expected to charge one person and that is as we said the cfo of the trump organization allen weisselberg. what does it say to you about this broader picture if after more than two years of investigation it could end with one indictment. again, of weisselberg over taxes paid on employee perks? >> this tells me prosecutors are
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putting a lot of stock in their ability to flip allen weisselberg. he would be the perfect person to flip if you could because he's an insider. he's the chief financial officer for decades. this is a financial case. that said, allen weisselberg halz has not cooperated so far and he will not however, poppy, i had cases as a prosecutor where the defense lawyer said he'll never flip or cooperate. when the indictment comes down and says united states versus allen weisselberg, that can change. >> feels different. >> things change quickly when someone gets charged. >> we'll see and see what the charges are. before you go, if weisselberg and the trump organization are indicted on criminal charges, then what? then what happens? >> first thing they're going to do is seek to have the charges dismissed and argue these are politically motivated charges and there is a way to argue that to a court. if they don't get the charges dism dismissed, they will plead guilty or go to trial. we could see a trial of the
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breaking news the search and rescue mission continues for any possible survivors of that deadly building collapse in florida nearly seven days ago. tonight, officials say two additional bodies have been recovered that brings the death toll to 18 officially. two children ages 4 and 10 are among the dead. 145 people still unaccounted for and tonight, we've obtained new video of the moments right before and right after the collapse moments before the building came down water pouring into the garage underneath and this video taken moments after
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the collapse complete and utter devastation. boris sanchez is "outfront" with much more on the new video. boris, good evening. you just spoke with the couple that took the video. >> reporter: that's right, poppy, and they are traumatized. they were tourists here on vacation and they were standing steps away from the champlain tower south moments before it collapsed. actually, interacting with residents that were on their balconies trying to figure out what led to a large thumping sound moments before the building came crashing down. they're now dealing with the impact of that. there is a silver lining, though. some of the footage they captured just before the collapse could i'mlluminate potentially the causes. new glimpses tonight of the scene at champlain towers south moments before it collapsed. >> oh my god. >> reporter: video captured by a couple staying nearby showing debris and water gushing into
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the underground garage, an area inspectors said needed repairs years earlier. a 2018 inspection report warning the pool slab right above the garage had major structural damage. the couple said they were on the pool deck of the hotel next door last thursday when she heard a loud crash. she says she became alarmed when their building shook and she say pieces of concrete on the ground. she told roberto the tower would collapse. >> i never thought that it really was going to collapse because in america, that never happen before. i said don't worry about it. it's not going to collapse. >> reporter: the couple watched as champlain residents rushed to the balconies. she and roberto scrambled into the street to wave to residents to evacuate. the couple has trouble recalling what happened next remembering only flashes. >> dust and then glass drop and
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then i start running for my life. >> reporter: it took a few minutes to realize what happened. >> get the fire truck's attention. [crying] >> oh my god. >> reporter: bruised and bloodied, the couple in disbelief. >> i said where are the people on the balcony? i didn't realize the balcony was not there. >> reporter: that image remains in my mind. for me, it's been very difficult thinking of everyone who lived there. minutes later, emergency crews began arriving on the scene with new dispatch audio revealing immediate calls for extra help. >> we have multiple victims outside of the building. we need resources. about 40 rescues, we got two coming from miami beach and we'll use any additional resources. >> reporter: rescue workers have not stopped working the scene since and with the search soon entering the eighth day, exhaustion is setting in. >> they're running on adrenaline
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right now and we had one member of one of the fire rescue teams who got a little exhausted yesterday. he needed to go get i.v.ed up and got into a hospital. fill him up with iv and saline and he's good to go back on si site. >> reporter: poppy, we confirmed today federal investigators will be looking into the cause of the collapse. the national insurancetitute of standers and technology will launch the fifth investigation of this kind in the agency's history. of course, getting answers is going to take along time potentially even years, poppy? >> boris sanchez, thank you for that reporting tonight. it adds to the tragedy of this. let me bring in the mayor of miami-dade county. mayor thank you for being here this evening. >> thank you, poppy. >> let's begin again with this new video we obtained and part of it you see the water gushing
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into the garage and debris into the garage and there were complaints of structural damage and the letter three months ago the damage in the garage got worse. do you believe there was criminal negligence here? >> this is obviously a tragedy beyond tragedy and there seems to have been signs of concern. we're obviously going to be part of the investigation, the county is going to be doing everything in our power to make sure that we learn from this and we do all -- everything we can with the county, properties and we'll be looking, as well, as to what the county can do across cities because cities are responsible for their own building inspections and recertifications.
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we know this is something we have to do together so we reached out to the cities. we're creating a working group with experts to explore everything that we can do to improve this in the future. >> one of the big concerns that victims' family members have and one of them told erin on this show this week and it's basically lay people that run these boards of these buildings that make decisions in terms of when to fix something. does that need to change? >> i think condominium law is an area the state will look at. right now that's the state's province. they do not allow us to regulate at the local level, which i wish they would. >> right. >> definitely need greater accountability, reporting requirements, transparency about these critical decisions. >> tonight, when you had to announce that two children were among the dead, 4 years old, 10 years old. i remember the morning of the
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collapse being on the air and seeing that image of those two bunk beds and i knew, i mean, you just know as a parent, you know as anyone in that moment they were kids and tonight, you had to confirm that. what was that like for you pers personally? >> horrific. it was just horrific. nothing worse than burying children and we know for the first responders on the pile, it's horrific for them, as well. we know when you talk about they're suffering and the physical suffering but the emotional, as well and for the community watching and the family members, there is no consoling this pain. >> no. there's not. but the president will come tomorrow and he knows what the pain is like and the pain of losing a child and losing a
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loved one. what do you think families want from the president? >> well, i think that the families want to share their pain and their grief and ask the president to make sure that everything that can be done at the federal level is done. we have this study that will be conducted and it will take awhile as was explained but there are going to be consulting experts all along the way. there are things i'm sure that can be done in the short term and these families are going to want to be sure that what happened here teaches the world that we can take steps to avoid problems in the future. >> right. mayor danella lavine cava thank you for joining us on a night like this. we appreciate your time. >> thank you. thank you so much. "outfront" next an engineer takes a frame by frame look at the collapse and tells us what he sees.
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tonight as rescuers continue to dig through the rubble in a desperate attempt to locate any survivors, experts are searching for clues to explain how a t 13-story residential building partially collapsed on itself. >> reporter: this is the first time engineer greg batista has looked at this video in slow motion. he used his decades of experience as a structural engineer in south florida to tell us what he thinks went wrong. >> go to that first frame where it begins to fall. there was something here at the bottom that gave way, and this is why this entire piece is just starting to come down. as i progress the frames, you'll see that there is a second that remains behind it or just to the north of it. now, obviously when you have this kind of -- this kind of collapse, obviously it's going to try to bring down everything that is around it. basically on this side, on this side and of course the back
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side. now, the back side as we see here starts to come down almost immediately with the front side. i was able to get my hands on the original plans, and the original plans, as this goes down, shows that there was a shear wall. that wall when we looked at the original plans was right there in that section. so that's why it didn't fall immediately. if that shear wall was not there, then this portion that's here would have pancaked also. >> hanging on by a thread really. >> it's basically hanging on by a thread. due to its loss of equilibrium and the momentum caused by the collapse of the other structure, inevitably it's -- it gave way and just collapsed on itself. >> reporter: as the collapse was unfolding, the "miami herald" reports casey stratton called her husband to tell him the pool was caving in. then the line went dead. the call is a critical piece to understanding what happened.
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>> if there was a hole anywhere right before the collapse, it would have been right at the area where the collapse commenced, where that first domino fell. >> reporter: he says the call gives merit to the theory of a potential sinkhole. but what's more likely, he says, is a confluence of factors, including spalling, or rust to the steel rebar caused by the ocean sea saltwater and how well engineers glued the building's columns to its concrete flat plate slabs. >> if i used some sort of very bad low capacity glue, of course. if i press down a little bit, it's going to go through. however, if i take precautions as an engineer and say, look, i'm going to use super gorilla glue, then as i press down by finger on it, it's going to keep it that way. >> reporter: batista believes if this particular building didn't have this super glue system, then that could have contributed to it going down so easily. he says the era it was designed and constructed in in the '80s is also relevant.
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>> the design codes are not the same today as they were in the '80s. there's this whole process on the modern -- in our system today that's baked into the system where you have these different layers of overview. >> and this building would have been grandfathered into this evolution of codes? >> yes, absolutely. >> reporter: sadly, batista says there's a chance forensic investigators may never pinpoint what went wrong or ultimately who is to blame, but he hopes that once it's discovered that this collapse is a catalyst for change. >> you know, i've seen lots of accidents before. when you're on construction you see death, people falling from buildings, i've seen a lot. when i went there the first day, i had to -- i had to go home after i was there. it's horrible. >> reporter: batista says that many engineers agree that the cause of this collapse is complex and likely involves a variety of factors. among those factors includes the
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action or inaction of the condo board. did this condo board push back potentially against maintenance suggestions made in a 2018 report? batista says if the price tag is high enough and it raises expenses for residents, in his experience there often is push back. what we don't know is if there was pushback in this case and, sadly, if there was, how that might have contributed to what happened here in surfside. >> nick valencia, thank you for the reporting tonight. also breaking tonight, this deadly heat. more than 50 million americans from maine to washington state under heat alerts right now. boston hitting 100 degrees for the first time in a decade. laguardia airport also touching at least 100, breaking previous records of 97 degrees set in 1964. it is causing hundreds of emergency room visits and dozens of deaths. i want to go to the west side of
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new york city where, boy, can we feel it. we all heard that alarm go off on our phones, this emergency alert to new yorkers to conserve power. >> reporter: that's right, poppy. we've had a lot of science fiction movies, surreal moments in this city over the past 18 months. today was one of them. i was on the subway when the phones all around me starting buzzing with that emergency broadcast system. officials saying turn off your appliances because they're worried that the electricity system can't handle the taxing of this record heat wave. those surreal moments are not just here in new york. we're seeing them all across the country, specifically in that northwest region of the united states and neighboring areas of canada where we've seen record numbers of temperatures and hubs of deaths reported amid those record numbers. now, it's not just over there, it's over here on the east coast where as you mentioned we're seeing record temperatures all up and down the east coast. 45 million americans in this region currently living under heat advisories. that means other officials in
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other cities are worried their systems might be taxed. people worrying that the system may not be able to handle this kind of heat. >> what about new york city? the pools just opened this week, so you've got that. but what other sort of respite? >> reporter: well, people are hoping that they can go inside some places that there are air conditioning and hoping other places they can get help. but the reality is that when heat rolls through a place like this or these other cities, there's just a lot of places where people are worried there aren't the kind of support people need. that's why we see the calls to turn off electricity and try to conserve it. but it really is a concern about what this actually means. when you look at these numbers, this is real dangerous stuff and stuff we need to think about when we think about the future of this country and what we need to think about next. >> thank you, evan, for the reporting tonight. thanks to all of you for joining us. don't forget to watch outfront any time anywhere.
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"ac 360" starts now. a very busy night. every house republican but two voting against a select committee to investigate the january 6th attack. criminal charges expected tomorrow against donald trump's company and one of his top corporate soldiers, long-time chief financial officer allen weisselberg. the death toll climbing in the surfside, florida, apartment collapse as more bodies are found in the rubble and sadly the number includes children. john berman in for anderson. there's all that and then there's this. bill cosby out of prison, back home tonight after pennsylvania's supreme court overturned his conviction for drugging and sexually assaulting andrea constand in 2004. now, he did not speak at a brief news conference today, but he did say this to abc news about his prosecution and trial. >> and nobod
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