we are going to talk to people who have faith and they always say, you know, religion doesn't keep bad things from happening, but faith can often help you get through what does happen. that's certainly the case for this family. thank you for watching. d. lemon, don lem on tonight right now. >> there are beautiful stories there. the stories they're telling

about their loved ones, heart wrenching and much needed. we need to hear about the lives of the folks. but i have some breaking handoff news i want to talk to you about because you're an attorney. talk to me about what's happening with weisselberg and the trump four. because supposedly this is over tax crimes in connection with an array of perks and benefits awarded to employees. >> right. >> so weisselberg is supposedly charged now, indicted, i should say, and the trump organization. what gives? what's going on? >> indicted, charged, same thing. he's in the same position. he's supposed to surrender himself tomorrow our reporting. here's the bad news for trump people, okay. we've never seen a former president connected to this kind of criminal prosecution. this is his company, it was just indicted for alleged criminal behavior. more troubling is, the man that they have fingered for this, we weisselberg, now is in a jam because the only way out of it,

he obviously couldn't convince them that they had the wrong guy or it wasn't worth what they think, he may be able to convince a jury otherwise. but if these benefits, ill gotten gains, as prosecutors will call them, extended to his kids, and they can say to him, we're going to charge your kids, mr. weisselberg, and you're going to go away and so might they, unless somebody else knew. somebody told you do this. then you need to tell us. that can be very powerful medicine. what's the minus? any day in prison is a bad day, don't get me wrong. but these are not heavyweight charges. >> that's where i was going. aren't they going to say that most companies, most people do this, it's not a chargeable offense, why are you charging the former president's company and the person who ran or signed the checks? are you treating him any differently than you would treat anyone else if you look at any

company and their perks? >> they can, but i don't think that gets you very far in a court of law. you only know what they show. and if they know that the tax code or any statutes were violated, it doesn't matter how you feel about the violater, they violated the law. and now it's up to the zwror decide -- jury to decide whether it meets the burden and the judge to figure out what the punishment is. i don't think that argument is very strong. the problem for prosecutors will be, you know, one, can they make the case against these people? we're put an expectation that they want to get trump. that's politics, that's media. we don't know that. they want to go with the evidence lies. but if weisselberg, as barbara, long time trump employee said on the show today, he knew, he knew. they only did what he told them to do. if that's the case, we could see a former president of the united states indicted. >> i think that's the last word on that. we have lots of breaking news. i wanted to clarify that with you because we're going to be

talking about that and other things as well. i shall see you tomorrow. >> don, i'm going to give you my legal advice for free because i love you. >> i appreciate your perspective and your legal advice and that goes double. thank you, sir. all right. i'll see you soon. so that's the breaking news. this is don lemon tonight. obviously i'm don lemon. we have other breaking nulgs as -- news as it comes to this, the insurrection and so forth. we're going to talk about bill cosby tonight. bill cosby is a free man and the women who accuse him and spoke out about what they say the star who was once known as america's dad did to them, many of whom i spoke to over the years are shocked tonight wondering how this could happen. he is back at his pennsylvania home thanks to a surprise ruling from pennsylvania supreme court vacating his 2018 conviction for sexual assault. cosby had been sentenced to up to ten years in a state prison

for drugging and sexually assaulting andrea constand at his home 14 years ago. he said nothing at a press conference outside his home today, just nodding his head as his publicist called his victory for americans treated badly by the judicial system. that's how his publicist described it. cosby later tweeted he has always maintained his innocence and thanked his fands. andrea was mentioned in statement calling the decision not only zoimtdisappointing but concerned and that it may discourage those who are sexually assaulted from participating in the prosecution of the sale anassailant or may them to file either a criminal or civil action. so the fact is, the court didn't say cosby's accuser weren't telling the truth. they didn't say he's innocent,

despite cosby's claims. this was strictly procedural. but so many women who accused him of raping and assaulting them, at least 50 of them by cnn's count, it leaves them in shock. they're stories are devastated. >> ybut i could not move. i couldn't respond. and i remember feeling something warm hit the side of my leg. and when i woke up, i just had the hilton hotel robe on and no clothes. >> yeah. >> but before that, i had on clothes. it changed my whole life. and i got a piece of it back and the only thing that i have left is to confront him. and i would love to see you in a court of law. i want to see you in a court of law. i'd like to see you eye to eye. i want him to be the man he was when he took away my youth and

september accept the woman i am now and ready to take him on. >> i remember both times. i remember having one blood by mary topped with beer, as i said, he called it a red eye. and i woke up i don't know how long later with him taking off my clothes. and you don't pass out from one small drink. >> so i'm going to speak -- you're going to hear tonight from those two women, that's going to happen in just a moment so make sure you stay tuned. so how exactly did this happen? we're going to go through it for you. according to the court, then district attorney made a deal not to prosecute cosby for the indictment involving constand, forcing him to testify under oath in a civil case. years later, though, a different prosecutor used that testimony against cosby in his criminal trial. and who was that original district attorney? a guy named bruce castor. sound familiar? wondering where you've heard that name before? well, this might jog your

memory. he's the guy who delivered a rambling defense, heavy on the rambling, light on the defense, of then president and his second impeachment trial. >> when i was growing up in suburban philadelphia, my parents were big fans of senator dirksen from illinois. and senator dirksen recorded a series of lectures that my parents had on a record. and we still know what records are, right? on the thing you put the needle down on and it played. >> okay. well we got a whole lot more to come on this over the next two hours, so make sure you stay tuned. we've also got a lot more on our breaking news to be the that i spoke with chris just moments ago, a manhattan grand jury indicting the jump organization and its chief financial officer alan weisselberg. that according to people familiar with the matter, those charges expected to be unsealed tomorrow. we're going to be bringing you

all the latest on that as well. and there is the house -- the house that voted tonight create a select committee to investigate the insurrection at the capital on january 6th. the vote to absolutely no one's surprise, almost entirely along party lines. just two republicans, liz cheney, adam kinzinger voting with democrats to learn the truth about what happened on one of the darkest days in american history. the rest of the gop trying to sweep everything under the rug as they have been doing lately, just sweeping it on to a big memory hole, just like senate republicans did last month, claiming the select committee would be partisan, which is garbage. gop deniers don't care about bipartisanship at all. if they did, they would have voted for that independent bipartisan commission last month. see that commission had the name in it, bipartisan. but they didn't vote for that. republican sources telling cnn

they were embarrassed that some of the police officers who risk their lives defending the capital were there to see their coward cowa cowardice today. one them said he's shocked but not surprised that 190 republicans voted no today. he'll be here tonight and you'll want to know what he says. you'll want to hear it, so he'll be here. we have a jam-packed two hours for you on all of this news, the breaking news on all of these subjects. so let's get straight to the bill cosby release from prison today. joining me now, two of cosby's accuser, joan and their attorney. thank you all for being here. i appreciate it. hi, joanie, how are you? >> hi, donny, i'm fine. how are you?

>> full transparency, joanie and i have become friends over the years and i'm happy to have her here to discuss this. so thank you. to see this conviction thrown out, i know it's devastating to you, but how are you feeling? >> a friend of mine called me from italy this morning and said, did you hear the bill cosby news? and i said what? and then "the new york times" came in over my phone. and i was shocked. i mean, you know, i don't think prison helps anybody. i would have liked to have seen him in a group therapy session with men that have done the same thing. that's what i think might have helped him. maybe. you know, he's in such -- he's going to say i didn't do it, i didn't do it, i didn't do it. you know, until his dying days,

which probably is sooner than you might think. he didn't look good. so, i mean there are was horrible what happened to me. i'm writing about it in my book. it was really horrific. but it was a long time ago. when i was writing about it, it brought feelings up. and when i go back and do the rewrites, it will bring feelings up. but it was like 1970, 1969. i mean, i moved forward. i mean, i feel that you can't keep living in the past because you have to move forward that. you have to exercise things from your life. and you can't stay there. you can't stay in the grief. you can't stay in the horror of

things that happen to you in your past. a lot of other ugly things happened to me in my past. but i'm not there anymore. i don't know whether that makes sense. people are probably going to say, no, no, no, he should be in jail. he should be -- you know, strung up by his thumbs. what good is that going to do me? >> well, i got to tell you, joan, i know that sheldon feels differently than that. we remember the emotional testimony that you described what you say happened to you when you were 17. you know, you said that you were drugged and assaulted. how do you feel? what do you think about that? >> i -- i'm overwhelmed. >> go ahead, shellen. >> i'm totally overwhelmed. when i got the call this morning, i felt like i was hit by a train. you know, you deserved to get

what he did because he did it. he's out on on a technicality, but that doesn't change the fact that he's a predator. all of us girls are still suffering, some more than others, but it's a travesty to justice to me. >> yeah. joanie says -- joan says she's moved beyond it. it's been tougher for you? >> it's been tougher for me. i go to counseling. i see psychiatrists. i've been seeing them for years. and it's hard for me every day. it's even hard even being married and being sleeping and i have nightmares of him to this very day. and it's hard on me. >> chelan, when you address the court, you directly addressed bill cosby from the stand. and you said, you remember, don't you, mr. cosby. do you think he still remembers? >> yes, i do.

he looked directly at me. when i said my grandparents names, he looked directly at me and it came out as if they were saying it themselves. i knew he did and he smiled at me. so i know he recognized me. >> listen -- >> i can say something? >> go ahead, joan. >> i think -- i don't know how many women he remembers because he's done this to so many people. i mean, i was in my 1970. one woman came up that was earlier than that. i mean, he's probably been doing this since he was on "i spy ". >> i personally say he was a visitor in my home. my grandmother used to cook meals for him when he came to vegas. so i know he remembers me. when i said my grandparents' name, i knew he remembered me. when he looked at me for a woman whose house that you came to,

you had all the children in my neighborhood enamored with him. he remembered me. >> that's a -- that's not what i'm talking about. i'm talking about the girls that he didn't just. [ lost audio ] you were different. >> yeah. >> joan, chelan, i want you to stand by, mark as well. i'm going to take a quick break. but when we come back, i want to get your reaction to bill cosby tweeting today that he's always maintained his innocence. how do you feel about that? we'll talk to these two women and their attorney -- one of their attorneys tonight. we'll be right back. oh! don't burn down the duplex. terminix.

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bill cosby a free man tonight, released from prison after a stunning decision from pennsylvania supreme court overturning his sexual assault conviction, ruling his due process rights were violated. back with me now, cosby accusers, joan and also chelan. mark is with us as well, that is -- he is ms. lasha's attorney. so, again, it's good to have all of you on.

chelan, let me start with you. i'm thinking back to that powerful new york magazine cover featuring 35 cosby accusers. >> yes. >> do you remember that cover? >> yes. >> so what does today mean for women in and other cases coming out, speaking out in the future? >> i think that we opened the world for everybody. as well as this has been painful, it's been powerful. and i'm excited to be a part of all the fabulous women that i've met and how we stood strong and bonded together and how it inspired others to bond together to stand up for themselves also. >> mark, thank you for sitting by patiently. i want to bring you in now. one thing that pennsylvania supreme court makes clear is that there can be no third cosby trial. the court says that the remedy here is to bar any further prosecution of cosby in the

andrea constand case. so what is your message tonight? >> well, thank you, don, for having me on. i would like to point out, as you pointed out at the top of the hour, that the supreme court of pennsylvania did not determine that mr. cosby is innocent. it did not determine that mr. cosby did not commit this act against andrea constand or against any of the other accusers. the court ruled on a procedural ground that the state of pennsylvania is bound by the decision of a former prosecutor not to prosecute. and the court reasoned that mr. cosby relied to his detriment on the public statements of that prosecutor that he would not prosecute. and that mr. cosby, therefore, testified in civil cases in a manner that incriminated himself. and so the court held that it would be an injustice and a

violation of his due process rights to prosecute him at this point. but that doesn't say anything about whether he's guilty or innocent. and i think that's an important fact for everyone to understand. the silver lining, in my opinion, about this disappointing decision, is that there are a number of civil cases that have been on hold while criminal charges were pending against mr. cosby, including during this time that the criminal charges -- the criminal conviction was on appeal. and i believe that there is no more reason to keep those civil cases on hold anymore because mr. cosby is now not facing criminal charges. >> let me ask you, mark, do you think that it makes the civil cases harder or easier to prove? because they can always say,

look, my client was, you know, let out of prison or was convicted wrongfully, therefore, none of it stands. no one has said that he's -- i know that you're saying it doesn't say that cosby is not guilty or innocent, however the court decides. but also can you say that he is -- that he has been proven in a court of law at this point? >> well, he was found guilty by the jury. he was found guilty. and the supreme court did not determine that he's not guilty. they reversed his conviction based on that reason that i was mentioning earlier, that the state of pennsylvania is bound by the statements of the former prosecutor. i don't think that makes it harder for the civil cases to proceed. i think that the evidence against mr. cosby is overwhelming. i believe my clients. i believe the other accusers. i believe that the evidence is strong against him and i think that the civil cases have every -- every chance of prevailing.

>> yeah. chelan, what do you want to say? you're having a hard time. >> it's been hard. and to see him get away like that in everything he'd done to myself, he ruined a perfect, innocent girl. i'm sorry. i apologize. >> there's no need to appologiz. go on. >> i apologize. but you know, god is on my side. it will be all right. >> joan, what do you want to say? >> i just feel very sad that she is still so affected by this. and it's, you know, it's a horrible thing.

and people read my book and go into what he did to me, it's going to shock some people. i can't really put it in detail and i don't want to talk about it now. but it was horrific. you know, i was unconscious for a day, i don't know, from like midnight one day to noon the next day. and in that time, he brutalized me. and i was covered with black and blue marks. they hear my cat. >> they probably do. [ dogs barking ]. >> anyway yeah, it's like, you know, more come back to me as i

delved into writing my book. so he did some pretty nasty stuff. what can i say? he's a sick -- i don't know whether he's a sick man. i don't want to analyze him. but i just think that therapy for people who have issues, whatever they are, helps. as she can testify to. you know, i'm in therapy now. i mean, i didn't even know that i had ptsd until five years ago. so, you know, i'm afraid of shadows and walking and get scared. so i understand what you're saying. i really understand what you're saying. but, you know, i cannot judge my fellow man even though my fellow man, you know, allegedly did

things to me. >> well, joan, i appreciate you joining us and sharing your feelings today. chelan, i appreciate you sharing your feelings. mark as well. you guys -- >> thank you, don. >> we'll continue to discuss this. obviously this is just -- it just happened, the breaking news today. i'm sure there will be much more discussion. take care. joan -- >> thank you. >> i'll text you or call you later, joan. thank you. be well. >> thank you so much. >> okay. bye-bye to the cats and dogs too as well in the background. everyone is working from home. everyone's zooming or skyping, what have you, and that's what happens, real life. i appreciate all of them sharing how they feel this evening. so another question for you. is bill cosby free all because of a procedural issue, right? laura is here. she's going to break down everything for us, was it the right decision? was it the wrong decision?

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okay, so we're back now. pennsylvania supreme court throwing out bill cosby's sexual assault conviction ruling that prosecutors violated his due process rights. the state's highest court ordering his immediate release from prison and barring any future prosecution on the particular charges involved in this case. lot to discuss now. cnn lawyer aura coates here. former federal prosecutor by the way. explain this to us. supreme court came to this decision saying that bill cosby -- they didn't say that he was innocent, did they? >> no, they did not. they didn't reach that conclusion at all. they didn't say they thought he should be acquitted. they said that this trial never should have gone on because there was an earlier agreement

not to prosecute. and that earlier prosecutor, bruce castor, he didn't make it in his own personal capacity. he essentially for cleclosed it because he was doing it on behalf of the commonwealth of pennsylvania. it was the government that agreed not to prosecute bill cosby, and the court found that the later prosecutor could not simply undo what the government already agreed not do because bill cosby had relied to his detective int detriment and they were able to use statements that he made later. it was a procedurally correct result, but you imagine the reaction seeing the guests you had on the show are but the a drop in the bucket of all the emotions that are coming out because it had nothing to do with the actual trial and what the jury found for guilt. >> that's what i wanted to ask you. you can make a distinction, right? there is a distinction. there is nuance, laura, that what you -- what people believe

cosby did was horrible. you can feel for the victims and understand how emotional, how they would feel about this. but then also agree that procedurally it was the correct thing to do. am i wrong with that? >> no, you're right. and that really is the moral conundrum for so many people. the idea of how and what happens in a system of justice doesn't always have what feels like just results. and that's really the problem here. because, again, it had nothing to do with what the jury found. the supreme court did not say that there was somehow some procedural error in the trial, an issue with jury misconduct. they did not say that the government failed to even meet their burden of proof. what they said was it never should have gotten there because a prosecutor's agreement should have been ironclad enough. it essentially enticed bill cosby not to -- or to speak against his -- his due process interests, against his right against self-incrimination and

it was used against him later as expected. but this was not the supreme court saying this man is innocent. >> i have a short time here left. i just want to ask you, is. end of the road? can they overturn this or is this the end of the road for andrea constand and can this be appealed and so on? >> unfortunately the only people to appeal it to the united states supreme court, and it's unlikely they would take a case like this because the underlying facts of the case, the legal arguments, frank lippily, are nt complicated. but other cases may not be time barred and may be able to bring cases against bill cosby. but this one, the facts of this case, the supreme court said it is the end of the road here. >> for other accusers, you said it may not be time barred. >> if they're not time barred, they could if they're not time barred. but a lot of the cases coming up, the allegations are things that predated even the allegations of even andrea

constand if the can have a chilling effect, frankly, on other victims of sexual assault. >> thank you, laura, it needed explaining. you did it perfectly. we appreciate it. thanks so much. >> thank you. he defended the capital on january 6th and today he was there again watching the house vote to investigate the insurrection. officer michael fanome, there he is. he tells us next. you know when your dog is itching for a treat. itching for an outing... or itching for some cuddle time.

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well, just two house republicans, liz cheney, allen kinzinger approving a select committee to investigate the january 6th attack after the senate gop blocked a bipartisan commission. cheney releasing a statement saying in part, here it is in a quote, since january 6th, the courage of my party's leads has faded. but the threat to our republic has not. our nation and the families of the brave law enforcement officers who were injured

defending us or died following the attack deserve answers. i believe the select committee is our only remaining option. she's talking about heroes like d.c. metropolitan police officer officer michael fanone who was brutally attacked, assaulted and tased while protecting our cap capitol on january 6th. >> i got one. >> easy. >> officer fanone suffered brain injury and a heart attack. he was invited by the house speaker nancy pelosi to attend today's vote on capitol hill. and he joins me now. mike, thank you, sir. how are you? >> i'm hanging in there. thanks for having me on. >> only two republicans, just two, some of your colleagues who also defended the capitol on the sixth joined you back at the scene of the crime. that's what it is, a scene of

the crime, to witness the vote today. gop sources tell our correspondent here that they were embarrassed to see officers like you today. what were you thinking watching all of this unfold? >> um, i mean, i was -- i was shocked but not surprised. >> that simple? >> that simple. i mean, i'm done, like, i don't know whatever excuses could be made for -- for the republican party at this point. they've been given ample opportunities to, you know, to have an exit ramp from the previous administration and they've chose to embrace that administration and doing so on the backs of hundred of police officers that responded to the insurrection which was incited by that president and his supporters on january 6th. >> this is a party of supporting

law enforcement, supposedly. did it feel that way today? has it felt that way over the last weeks or months? >> yeah, no, it's been an eye-opening experience for me. we've come a long way from the, you know, political rhetoric of the previous administration saying that the republican party is the party of law and order and of supporting law enforcement. not to say that, you know, any particular political party embraces law enforcement or is supportive of law and order unequivocally. but it's clear to me now that, you know, the republican party as a whole is not that. i've got to look to individual members to earn that -- the right to say that they're supportive of law enforcement. and right now 190 republicans did not earn that right. >> listen, you -- were you -- were you able to talk to

politicians who voted against this committee? >> i mean, i had a meeting last week with -- >> but not today. >> -- kevin mccarthy. today? no, i did not have that opportunity. >> yeah. but you spoke with kevin mccarthy last week. and tell us about that. >> i mean, i don't know, like, he was cordial. but he's -- you know, he's a good politician. he was very noncommittal as to some of the specific demands that i had or requests. i asked that he denounce the 21 house republicans that voted against the gold medal bill, to acknowledge and honor my coworkers who responded to the january 6th insurrection. i asked him to take this special committee seriously and to appoint serious participants, not obstructionists. i also asked him to denounce

andrew clyde's statements regarding january 6th as being a normal tourist day. and also to denounce the baseless theory or conspiracy theory that somehow the fbi, the premier investigative law enforcement agency in this country was responsible for the january 6th insurrection. which was inspired by and, you know, by the former president. >> yeah. listen, were there people there who surprised you today? i understand you had some interesting encounters. >> yeah, no. i mean, obviously all my interactions with -- with speaker pelosi have been wonderful. she's been incredibly supportive of me and my family. i also had the opportunity to meet with ilhan omar which was

an interesting interaction. i think she went there initially to speak with one of my colleagues from the metropolitan police department who was from the same area that she grew up. which i found to be, like, incredibly genuine and meaningful for me. it was a big deal for me to be able to bring those officers up on the hill and have lawmakers express their appreciation to them and show them how supportive they are. but my interaction with her was very unique. i think when -- when i asked to shake her hand and she shook my hand, i told the press there if they published this photo they need to put the headline up that hell has frozen over. which was obviously just a poking fun at the fact that she's gotten a reputation, i think, of being anti-law

enforcement, which from some of the conversation i had with her, i found to be untrue. and that's been true really across the board. i think a lot of people who, you know, a lot of our lawmakers who are covered by certain media outlets are given a reputation or a moniker that they're anti-american or anti-law enforcement. again, i found that with my personal intersections not to be the case. >> we're going to talk to officer michael fanone more about his meetings today. about what he's trying to do, also if he's possibly concerned about more violence with the big lie and the lie about the insurrection. back in a moment with michael fanone. we'll be right back.

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back with me, d.c. metropolitan police officer, michael fanone. would you like house speaker nancy pelosi to appoint representatives cheney and ken singer to the committee? >> i mine ean to be honest with, i wouldn't make recommendations to speaker pelosi on how to conduct the special committee. i don't think that's my place, but i do think liz cheney and adam ken singer would be well suited for that recommendation. >> would you like to see that? do you think that would be helpful in your estimation? >> i do. >> we're hearing homeland security officials are worried about more violence this summer.

they worry that right wing conspiracy theorists believe donald trump will be reinstated? do you think people will be angry if in fact that does not happen? >> it doesn't surprise me, again. you know, i feel like the republican party has been given ample opportunities to put this, you know, the rhetoric which led to the january 6 insurrection to bed, and they have deviated from that, you know, what i saw today was a lot of argument being made against the special committee, and the reason behind it was that we had already had multiple investigations into the january 6 investigation, including the criminal investigations. well, you know, i've talked about that before. i think when you had senator klobuchar on. those investigations were, you know, looked into, the security

failures and some of the, you know, forced mobilization that day. i see that as a bandaid on a gunshot wound. if we don't address the root causes of the january 6 insurrection, that is to say that it was a political, politically motivated event, inspired by and incited by the former president and his supporters, directing americans to attack the capitol building. if we don't address that, absolutely, there's, you know, room for more political violence. >> yeah. hey, mike, i know that you're tired. as they say down but not out. you should continue to fight for what you want. you're the leading voice on

this, quite frankly, so i know that you're tired. i know that you're weary, just because i know you. but continue on. soldier on, okay? >> yeah, i mean, i'm not going anywhere. if you ask my bosses at mpd they know i'm a consistent mf-er. >> that's why your initials are mf. >> thanks, buddy. bill cosby out of prison after serving only three year of his ten-year sentence. next. and you need it here. and here. and here. which is why the scientific expertise that helps operating rooms stay clean is now helping the places you go every day too.

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