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weisselberg. the charges expected to be unsealed tomorrow. much more on this breaking story in just a moment. also, bill cosby is a free man. bill cosby is at home tonight released from prison following a stunning decision by the pennsylvania supreme court overturning his conviction of sexual assault. cosby served three years of a ten-year sentence. and the bodies of two children in the collapsed building bringing the confirmed death toll to 18. over 100 people still unaccounted for. this is new tonight. the trump organization and its chief financial officer, alan weisselberg expected to be charged with tax crimes. the manhattan district attorney's office, building a case around perks awarded to employees and whether appropriate taxes were paid on
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them. let's discuss now, former nixon white house counsel john dean is here. it's good to see you, it's been way too long. they filed the indictments today they will be unsealed tomorrow afternoon. sources tell cnn alan weisselberg is expected to turn himself in tomorrow. what does this moment mean? >> i think what it means, don, is how effective trump's and weisselberg's lawyers have been in sort of bracing the public for the fact this was going to happen. i don't think any of us are surprised to hear it. what we don't know and i don't think the lawyers know either, is what's going to be in the indictments that are sealed. >> mm-hm. does that mean that their investigation is over or could there be subsequent charges? >> there well could be. there could be, in fact, i would expect this is an early phase. i think they're trying to
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obviously build a case against weisselberg that will result in him becoming a witness. he probably is the best insider for the kind of financial fraud that appears or that the inquiry is focussed on. and whether he'll flip or not, i don't know, don. he doesn't strike me as a gordon liddy type from watergate, who's going to go to jail and stay there and not speak until he can get a book contract. >> do you think the former president is at risk at all? >> oh, i do. i can't, i can't imagine, from everything we know about trump's m.o. we've watched him in a rather public way in the presidency, that he's a hands-on guy. and everybody reports that that's the way he ran his business, that nothing shipped by him. they also say they ran it like a mafia don knowing how to give instructions where he didn't give instructions, but everybody
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knew exactly what he wanted, and that's pretty effective and can make it more difficult to prosecute someone who's clever criminally. >> now do you indict, though, how do you indict the trump org without indicting trump? explain that. >> well, is as has been famously noted since citizens united, a corporation is considered a person. so it has, it can be indicted like a person. and it will be treated somewhat like a person, although you can't incarcerate, incarcerate a corporation in the same way you can a person, weisselberg is clearing tied, deeply, with this corporation, and it's not one entity, though, it is multiple. there's something like five or 600 smaller entities that he operates through, so it will be also telling as to what or which corporations are indicted. and that will be very interesting.
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probably make it a much more challenging investigation as well. >> john dean, good to see you. thank you, appreciate your expertise on this. thanks so much. bill cosby, now out of prison after his sexual assault conviction was overturned. joining me now, gloria allred, and victoria valentino who says she was raped by cosby in 1969. good evening to both of you. thank you for joining. victoria, i'm going to start with you. cosby's release has got to be devastating. how are you fileeling snonts tonight? >> we are absolutely stunned. but in some ways there was pour tent for this and having the one justice say that she just didn't see a pattern, which was appalling to me, but somehow
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that gave me pause. >> victoria, this is what cosby said to abc tonight, watch this. >> nobody had the sense to say wait one second. this doesn't match up with the truth. this is not what i was taught in college. this is not what i was taught at home, et cetera, et cetera. >> he also tweeted that he has always maintained his innocence. what do you think when he tries to suggest that this ruling shows that he's innocent? >> well, we know better. he's delusional, he's a sociopath, he has no personal insight, no remorse, and he doesn't see that what he did was wrong. you know, sociopaths don't. they don't have a moral compass. what's right for them feeds
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their ego. what's wrong for them doesn't feed their ego. >> yeah, hi, gloria. i want to bring you in, because, you know, as victoria just said, this doesn't change any of the facts about cosby, that cosby admitted that he obtained quaaludes to give to women that he wanted to have sex with. what message, though, does this decision send to women who have lived through sexual assault? >> well, i wanted to say that i did represent 33 accusers of bill cosby, including the majority of the prior bad act witnesses who testified in both trial. and i think they were very brave, and they sacrificed quite a bit, and they showed a lot of courage. and so i feel for them today. but the message that it sends is the pennsylvania supreme court decided that mr. cosby's conviction should be reversed,
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really, on a technicality, although it's due process and, you know, they feel that his due process rights were violated by what they consider to be the non-prosecution. he made incriminating statements in the deposition. his testimony under oath in the civil case that andrea filed and essentially, they're saying he wouldn't have done that if he thought there was going to be another prosecution. and then his deposition testimony was used in the criminal cases. but, it's a very unusual set of facts. mr. cosby, he can celebrate tonight, but this is going to continue, because, don, even though this criminal case is done, i'm still proceeding with a civil lawsuit against him on behalf of my client judy huff, who alleges in her lawsuit that she was a victim of child sexual
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abuse by mr. cosby when she was at the playboy mansion a number of years ago, and our civil lawsuit was stayed. we were awaiting this decision by the pennsylvania supreme court. now we're going back to the judge in august, and he'll set either a date to finish discovery and/or trial date for us, and now, because of the decision today, don, mr. cosby is going to be compelled to give his deposition, and we're going to take that, and he was not going to be able to invoke his fifth amendment privilege against self-incrimination is the lawsuit that we filed. so we're looking forward to questioning mr. cosby under oath now. >> victoria, you know, he is out on a legal procedural issue, a technicality, so to speak, if you want to put it that way. this specific case cannot be re-tried. what does that mean to you? >> well, it's infuriating. absolutely frustrating, and i think it makes many of us rage
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inside with some impoe tent anger, because once against, women have been thrown under the bus, and a woman's worth has not been honored. there are over 60 of us who have experienced a lot of damage because of bill cosby, and even though we have him out because a t wasn't crossed or an i wasn't dotted, he is still going to be a pariah. he is still a rapist. he is still a sociopath, and he is still a predator, and we still have our voices. and we have stood in our truth. we have stood up and been strong in solidarity with each other, and we will continue to speak out. we will continue to inspire and support other women or men, who've been raped and hopefully
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encourage them to continue to speak and find their voices and find transformational healing. >> victoria, gloria, thank you so much. i really appreciate it. and i'm sure we'll be talking soon, because, again, this is all happening today, and there's much more discussion to be had. thank you very much. and in continuing that discussion, i want to bring in monique presley. thank you so much. appreciate you joining us, and you can take us inside of what happened. because i think there are very few people who know more than you. so monique, you were a huge part of the public face of cosby, cosby's defense, 2015, 2016. are you surprised by this decision? >> only that it was hard for me to conceive that the pennsylvania supreme court did what, let me be the first gist
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ton guest on your show to say they got it right. they followed the law. they held prosecutors who have an extreme amount of power and discretionary authority. they said to all of us that one member of the united states government in this case representing the commonwealth, can't promise a citizen, a future defendant one thing and then 12 years later a person in the same office decide, eh, we'll ignore that. we don't have to honor it. so, though many are saying that that's a technicality, actually, don, being induced to waive your fifth amendment right to remain silent because you have been promised that you will not be pros prosecute ♪ not a technicality. it's not just hiccup that needed
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to be corrected. the prosecutors, such as in the trump case that you've talked about already once tonight. what if they decided they didn't want to keep them, who would cooperate? think about if they took a plea deal for someone and they said you have to be in for ten years, and when the tenth year comes, they say, eh, that was the other prosecutor. we've decided to do something different. we're going to keep you for another ten because we think you did a whole lot of other bad things and you should be in there anyway. no. not a technicality. this is the thrust of what it means to have constitutional protections, and i believe, as people separate out this one person whom they have strong emotional feelings about and feed their own family members, colleagues or themselves in this position, it will get much easier to understand why legally
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the pennsylvania supreme court did what they were supposed to do. >> i understand what you're saying, and i said technicality tan and it was a procedural technicality. i am quoting what the other accusers are saying, they believe he's out on a tech technicality. honestly, i i this think you m a point. you may not agree with the accused actions of cosby and what his accusers are saying, but if you break it down and look at them separately, as you were saying, most people and attorneys, even if they don't agree with it, they will say that the court did the right thing. they don't agree with the emotional part and the victim part, that the courts did the right thing or the court did the right thing. you have been saying the exact same thing about this.
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when this was happening in real time, that you can't promise someone immunity so to speak, or that they won't be prosecuted and then come back and be prosecuted. and now these years later, it seems that what you were saying is correct. and i'm just talking about on this part of it, the quote which you won't agree with, procedural part of it. >> right, and actually, one of the other attorneys texted me and said, looks like they finally heard you. and, and i just smiled, because, yes, december 31st, 2015, i said to anybody who would listen that a prosecutor with that much power can't make a promise and then get you to testify and then the same prosecutor, because that's what it is, dop t's the office. not the person. for the sake of political gamesmanship, for the sake of winning election, for the sake of promises kept do something different, and i am the first to
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understand that people who had hopes and dreams of seeing a measure of accountability were looking for it from anywhere. but our system of government just doesn't work like that when it's working right. you get tried for one particular case and one charge or multiple charges in that case. and you have to be found guilty of that, or you go home. it can't be because we think you did something else, at least you got put in jail for something. there are prosecutors who have abused their discretion and their authority for centuries, especially where black and brown people are concerned of the and, so, again, what the supreme court said is not about one person. what they said is we have to be able to count on our government, when they make a deal with us that they're bound to it and that they keep it, so it's not
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that the prosecution messed up in this case necessarily, it's that they insisted upon the case, when they knew that they shouldn't have in the first place. >> let me ask you this. do you, do you admit, or, well, do you believe that he didn't do anything wrong? and that he shouldn't be accountable? because he did admit to the quaaludes and wanting to have sex with andrea constand and with others. is that a separate matter? >> so i'm sitting in here as an analyst. i'm not his lawyer. i'm not an advocate for anyone. i'm calling balls and strikes, but i will correct the record and say that at the point that he said in the testimony that he had quaaludes, quaaludes were legal, and he never said that he slipped them to anyone. he said they were offered and everyone chose consensually. he said where andry yeah constand was concerned it was benadryl and sexplain thad
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beforehand and she took it. the supreme court went further and said we have to credit bruce caster as district attorney when he said that ms. constand's statements were inconsistent, and he did not believe for that and other reasons that he was going to be able to get a guilty verdict. so it's not about my opinion or my thought process. you know, we've been down this road before, and i always tell you, it's not what i think, it's what the facts say and what people have to prove, because that's the stative the law. when one prosecutor makes a decision on what they saw as the evidence at the time, that's binding, and i am glad personally and professionally for all of the criminal defendants and future criminal defendants out there, that this type of law is on the books. >> monique presley, thank you very much. i appreciate it. >> thank you, don. joining me now is areva martin.
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i want to hair whaear what she say about this. she says the pennsylvania supreme court got it right. what do you say? >> well, first of all, i have a lot of respect for monique, and, you know, i think she's a fantastic lawyer, but i disagree with her. i couldn't disagree with her more on the points that she made with respect to what the supreme court did in this case. i think the supreme court got it absolutely wrong. she made mention to and the supreme court makes mention of this so-called agreement. let's unpack what this agreement was and what it wasn't. there's an alleged agreement between bruce castor, the lawyers for constand and the lawyers for cosby. the trial court who had an opportunity to hear the testimony from those lawyers, bruce caster himself and the lawyers for constand, the judge ruled that caster's testimony was inconsistent, and he did not believe that there was actually
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the kaptind of agreement that's being referenced. there was nothing in writing new york city traditional plea bargain. no e-mails back and forth, all that was in writing was a press conference from that, a press release, i'm sorry, from that former district attorney, so this agreement, you know, was fraught, alleged agreement was fraught from the beginning. so, and also, when we talk about prosecutors having a lot of power, let's think about if this were a different case. let's think about ahmaud a arbery's case where the prosecutor refused to hold those men accountable. we would not want that decision to be binding on future prosecutors, otherwise those three men would never have been brought to justice. so this notion that a prosecutor can enter into a side dial, kind of a nod and a wink deal, nothing in writing, nothing
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before the court, and that that's binding on future prosecutors, i think is very dangerous, don, and i think the court has set a very dangerous precedent in its ruling today. >> areva, i've got one quick thing for you, his publicist is saying the decision today, and i'm paraphrasing today, is justice, bill cosby is saying it's in some way, gave a statement to abc saying that, you know, he's vindicated in some way or innocent or proves his innocence. again, paraphrasing what he said. what do you think of that? >> this decision doesn't vindicate him in the least bit. nothing in the decision undermines the credibility of the testimony given by constand. it doesn't undermine the decisi decision decision made by the jury in this case. i think it's a travesty of justice that the supreme court determined that cosby cannot be tried again. the prosecutors offered an
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alternative remedy. okay. let's exclude the deposition testimony that the court found to be problematic, and let's move 23forward of a prosecutionf bill cosby without that testimony. and the court shut that opportunity down by the prosecutors. i think this case is troubling for black women. i think it's troubling for all women who have been the victims of sexual assault and rape. we knew there was a turning point where women were feeling encouraged, coming forward, being believed. and i hope this case, this ruling, does not have a chilling effect on those women and that women keep standing up and keep telling their stories. >> areva martin, we appreciate your perspective as well. the house voting tonight to create a select commit tee to investigate the insurrection at the capitol, all but two repub republicans siding with the big lie
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investigate the insurrection at this capitol. only two republicans joining democrats on the vote. good to see both of you. thanks so much. kiersten, let's see, i'll start with you. every republican except two voting against the committee. they made it clear they stand on the side of the big laie, is tht so? >> it seems they are opposed to getting to the bottom of what happened and doing anything to make sure it doesn't happen again. that's one of the most important things obviously, we want to get all the details when something like this happens in the country. ideally, it would be completely bipartisan. idealry, i ideally, that would have been an independent commission. republicans, except for two, didn't want to go along with t anit.
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i think it's because they don't want to have it in the news all the time and have democrats talking about what happened on that day, because in the end it will be bad for the republican party even if it will be good for the country. >> michael fanone was in the gallery, this is what he told me last hour. >> i don't know whatever excuses can be made from the republican party at this point. they've been given ample opportunities to, you know, to have an exit ramp from the previous administration, and they've chose to embrace that administration. and doing so on the backs of hundreds of officers that responded to the insurrection, which was incited by that president and his supporters on january 6. >> so, you know, as he said as well, the gop's supposed to be the party that supports military and law enforcement. what is the message to those officers who protected lawmakers
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that day that only two republicans voted yes to this committee? >> i mean, to be honnist with you, don, i don't have a great answer for it. on the one hand, right now, the republicans are wanting to use the crime issue against the democrats and say we're for the cops and the democrats are for the criminals, but that's complicated because of the video that we all saw, we all watched live on television unfold on january 6th. so i don't have a great answer for that question. the political argument, kerstin started to go down this road and i think she's right, is that republicans think the democrats simply want this committee, which is redun ddant in their eyes. so i think that's the political tactic that's being used. as it relates to this law enforcement matters, i'm very sympathetic to officer fanone, to every single officer who was on duty that day because of the way they were treated by people
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who supported a president that always espoused back the blue. and it's contradictory, and there's no great answer for your question. i am glad, by the way, that the justice department, despite all the political wrangling is moving at light speed to arrest and bring to justice all these people who were involved at the capitol, and i think some republicans would say these political committees are less important than bringing people to justice who broke the law and broke into the capitol that day. >> kevin mccarthy still refuses to say that if he will offer up gop members to serve on the committee. he says the committee, as scott just says, political. listen, i'll say it again. before this, there was a bipartisan agreement on an independent commission. but mccarthy came out against it. did he bring this on himself? >> yeah, they had the opportunity to do an independent commission, and they didn't support it. so you can't really now complain, if you won't go along with the independent commission
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that would have been, at least in their eyes not as partisan. and then complain about this. they just don't want any investigation into it. that's what they have to admit to. and i just, scott won't defend this. it's indefensible that something like this could happen in the country and to not have some sort of commission look into it and if it's not a commission it's going to have to be a committee, and then to complain about the committee, because you wanted to have the commission. it's more of this crazy making stuff that's carried over from the trump era. >> thank you, kerstin, thank you, scott. so 18 dead, 145 unaccounted for, and now my next guest is filing a class action lawsuit, the latest on the collapsed condo in surfside, florida, next. may look like a regular movie night. but if you're a kid with diabetes, it's more. it's the simple act of enjoying time with friends,
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tonight, the death toll from the catastrophic building collapse in florida rising to 18. two children, ages 4 and 10, confirmed dead today. l local officials say 145 people are still uncontracted for. you want to bring in a man whose grand parents lived in the building before moving out. let's talk about this. you have given cnn audio of one of your clients, 59-year-old reza rodriguez who was record ago voice mail as the building was beginning to fall. let's listen. >> hello! who' s there?
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>> [ bleep ]. >> oh, my god! what the hell! oh, my god! yanni! the whole side of the build something gone. >> wow, what does this demonstrate in addition to the sheer terror that you hear there, adam? >> it's just another vivid demonstration, don, of what these victims went through, those who were lucky enough to survive the chaos, the confusion, and also the care they had for one noir.
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you hear reysa calling out to her neighbor. they remembered that there was an an 80-year-old woman with a walker who lived below her. they retrieved her, and all of them were able to make their way to a balcony where fire and rescue were able to save them. it's really an extraordinary story and the beginning of a heroic story for our client who really put her own life at risk to work with her neighbors to bring them to safety. >> thank you for getting us that audio. i want to talk about the letter you have seen now, sent to residents, the condo association warning that the building had gotten worse since the 2018 inspection. were the warnings not taken seriously enough? >> unstorfortunately, it seems they weren't.
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it's almost like watching a train crash spread out in years. in 2018 the condo association received a report telling them that the deterioration of the concrete was going to increase at an exponential rate, and by the way, don, around that same time period, our client, reysa took video of water intrusion that she saw in the garage and sent it to the condo association. so the condo association was getting all sorts of alarms going off, not just red flags, really sirens going off, saying this is a disaster waiting to happen. instead, they shopped around for a better price. by the time that 2021 letter was sent a few months ago, the cost of those repairs had ballooned from $9 million to an estimated $15 million. this is the result of the delay is unfortunately the dee sass ter we're seeing unfold now. >> if you have any other audio
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or pick ptures or video, pleaset us know. we appreciate it, so much. >> thanks for having us, don. president biden says it's climate change. he's talking about the dangerous record-setting heat across this country. i'm going to speak with a governor who met with him about that today right after this.
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more devastating wildfires. this is what the president, joe biden had to say today. >> right now we have to act and act fast. we're late in the game here. we're remembering the horrific scenes from last year, orange skies that look like end of days. climate change driving the dangerous confluence of extreme heat and prolonged drought. we're seeing wildfires of greater intensity that move with more speed, you know, and, last well beyond traditional months in the fire season. >> let's discuss now. jared polis is here. he was part of that meeting today, governor, appreciate you joining us. talk to us about what the western part of the united states is seeing now and what frightens you about where we are headed with the climate? >> first of all it was amazing that president biden, vice president harris, he also assembled four or five members of his cabinet to spend two
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hours with us western governors, democrat and republican today. this is a hotter, drier weather, colorado had the three largest fires in the history of our state last year. sadly, we weren't alone. we saw enormous fires in california. already fires raging in oregon. one of the aspects of western state, my state is about 40% federal land, colorado. some states are even more. it's a key area of joint responsibility and cooperation. everything we heard from president biden, he wanted to activate that cooperation with the federal government to protect against wildfires. >> beyond cooperation, what messages did you and other governors want to get across to the president and the rest of the country about the dangers ahead? >> well, first of all, the urgency of taking the mitigation steps to reduce further fire risk, and then the ability to have more of a national pool of people and equipment to surge
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quickly to areas in need, to prevent wildfires from getting out of control. so more, earlier, more mitigation work, and more support on the federal part of the lands. they were really all ears. and both president biden and the cabinet really, fema was there they listened to what the six or seven governors on the call had to say. we're really excited about the federal government stepping up to help. >> colorado saw the three h largest wildfires in 2020. the president announcing new initiatives to make it easier to train and deploy more firefighting personnel this year and make sure that they get at least $15 an hour. is this administration going far enough to help, you think? >> you know, these fires really are an interstate issue. last year one of our fires came down from wyoming.
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i was amazed, firefighters should be making a lot more than $15 an hour, taking weeks and months away from their families. that alone isn't the answer. we need firefighters, the high tech side, equipment, surveillance. i think the federal government is finally waking up now. this is an administration unlike the last one that acknowledges at that climate change is a threat and realizes there's a new reality for fires in the west. longer fire seasons, more risk, and this administration's willing to take the steps to help prevent loss of life and property. >> let's talk more about what the administration is trying to do, specifically the president. in the president's infrastructure deal, he is trying to sell, it does include climate change measures like money to purchase electric vehicles, buses and charging stations. they are funding projects to cap abandoned oil and gas wells. are you frustrated that some people don't see climate-related legislation as an investment in
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that infrastructure and making sure that we can all continue to survive and thrive? >> yeah, not only do we have to address today, the fires, but we have to build a better future, and if we don't take action on climate, we're looking at not just what we've experienced this year and last year being the new normal, but we're looking at a new normal that's even worse every year. i'm glad the united states of america is back at the leadership table. 100% renewable energy by 2040. we're going to be at 80% by 2030, doing what we can to reduce the devastating impact of climate change. >> governor polis, thank you very much. stay cool! >> will do, thank you, don. human error, that's what new york city's board of elections is saying after making a huge mistake in counting votes for the mayoral primary. stay with us. and you need it here.
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♪ she did. take this. we, maybe, have an idea, maybe, of who leads new york city democratic mayoral primary. maybe. the new york city board of elections, pushing an updated set of rank-choice voting results after -- publishing, i should say -- after retracting numbers posted last night, that included about 135,000 erroneous test ballots and no absentee ballots. the updated results show brooklyn borough president, eric
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voting against a select committee to investigate the january-6th attack. criminal charges expected tomorrow against donald trump's company and one of his top-corporate soldiers, longtime chief-financial officer, allen weisselberg. the death toll climbing in the surfside, florida, apartment collapse, as more bodies are found in the rubble. and sadly, the number, now, includes children. john berman here, in for anderson. there is all that. and then, there's this. bill cosby out of prison. back home, tonight. after pennsylvania's supreme court overturned his conviction for drugging and sexually assaulting andrea constand in 2004. now, he did not speak at a brie brief-news conference today but he did say this to abc news about his prosecution and trial. >> and nobody had the sense to say, wait, one second. this doesn't match up with the truth.
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