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this isn't just a walk up the stairs. when you have an irregular heartbeat, it's more. it's dignity. the freedom to go where you want, knowing your doctor can watch over your heart. ♪ boy, oh, boy. you talk to people who have faith and they always say, you know, religion doesn't keep bad things from happening in your life. but faith can often help you get through what does happen and that's certainly the case. thank you for watching. d lemon. d"don lemon tonight" right now. >> there are some beautiful families there. and the stories that they are telling about their loved ones. heart-wrenching and much needed. we need to hear about the lives of the folks. but i have some breaking handoff
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news that i want to talk to you about because you are an attorney. talk to me about what's happening with weisselberg and the trump org. because supposedly, this is over tax crimes in connection with an array of perks and benefits awarded to employees. >> right. >> so, weisselberg is, supposedly, charged now. indicted, i should say. and the trump organization. what gives? what's going on? >> indicted. charged. same thing. he is supposed to surrender himself tomorrow, is our reporting. now, let me give you the plus-minus on this. okay? here is the bad news for trump people. okay? we've never seen a former president connected to this kind of criminal prosecution. this is his company. it was just indicted for alleged-criminal behavior. more troubling is the man that they have fingered for this, weisselberg, now is in a jam. because the only way out of it. he, obviously, couldn't convince them that they had the wrong guy or it wasn't worth what they think. he may be able to convince a
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jury otherwise. but if these benefits, ill-gotten gains, as prosecutors will call them, extended to his kids. and they can say to him, we're going to charge your kids, mr. weisselberg. and you are going to go away and so might they, unless somebody else knew. somebody told you to do this. then, you need to tell us. that can be very powerful medicine. what's the minus? these charges. any day in prison is a bad day. don't get me wrong. but these are not heavyweight charges. >> that's where i was going. aren't they going to say that most companies, most people, do this? it's not a chargeable offense. why are you charging the -- the former president's company and the person who -- who ran or signed the checks? are you treating him, any differently than you would treat anyone else if you looked at any company? >> they can but i don't think that gets you very far in a court of law. you don't like the president. you only know what you show.
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and if they show that the tax code was violated. or that any statutes were violated. it doesn't matter how you feel about the violator. they violated the law. and now, it's up to the jury to decide whether it meets the burden. and to a judge to figure out what the punishment is. so, i don't think that argument is very strong. the problem for prosecutors will be, you know, one, can they make the case against these people? we're putting an expectation they want to get trump. that's politics. that's media. we don't know that. they just want to go where the evidence lies. but if weisselberg, as barbara, longtime trump employee, said on the show tonight. he knew. he only did what they told him to do. if that's the case, we could see a former president of the united states indicted. >> i think that's the last word on that. we have lots of breaking news. i wanted to clarify that with you because we're going to be talking about that and other things, as well. i shall see you tomorrow. thank you, my friend. >> don lemon, i give you my
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legal advice for free because i love you. >> i appreciate your perspective and your legal advice. and that goes double. thank you, sir. all right. i will see you soon. so that's the breaking news. this is "don lemon tonight." obviously, i am don lemon. but there is -- that's one bit of our breaking news. we have other breaking news as it comes to this. as it comes to the insurrection and so on and so forth. we're going to talk about bill cosby, tonight. bill cosby is a free man. and the women, who accused him, who spoke out about what they say the star, who was once known as america's dad, did to them. many of whom, i have spoken with over the years. well, they are shocked tonight. wondering, how this could happen? he is back at his pennsylvania home, thanks to a surprise ruling from pennsylvania's supreme court. vacating his 2018 conviction for sexual assault. cosby had been sentenced to up-to-ten years in a state prison for drugging and sexually assaulting andrea constand at his home 14 years ago. he said nothing at a press
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conference, outside his home today. just nodding his head, as his publicist called his victory for americans treated badly by the judicial system. that's how his publicist described it. cosby later tweeted that he has always maintained his innocence, and thanked his fans. andrea constand, who, at the time, worked for temple university, was mentioned by cosby. putting out a statement calling the decision, not only disappointing but, of concern. and that it may discourage those who seek justice for sexual assault in the criminal-justice system from reporting or participating in the prosecution of the assailant. or may force the victim to choose between filing, either, criminal or civil action. filing either a criminal or civil action. so, the fact is, the court didn't say cosby's accusers weren't telling the truth. they didn't say he's innocent, despite cosby -- cosby's claims. this was strictly procedural. b
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but it leaves so many women who publicly accused him of raping or assaulting them, at least 50 of them by cnn's count, it leaves them in shock. it does. i talk with some of them back in 2014 and their stories are devastating. >> but i could not move. i couldn't respond. and i remember feeling something warm at the side of my leg. and when i woke up, i just had a -- the hilton hotel robe on and no clothes. >> yeah. >> but before that, i had on clothes. it changed my whole life. and i got a piece of it back, and the only thing that i have left is to confront him. and i would love to see you in a court of law. i want to see you in a court of law. that way, i can see you eye to eye. i want him to be the man he was when he took away my youth. and accept the woman i am now, and ready to take him on. >> i remember both times.
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i remember having one bloody mary topped with beer. as i have said, he called it a red eye. and i woke up, i don't know how long later, with him taking off my clothes. and you don't pass out from one, small drink. >> so, i am going to speak with -- you are going to hear, tonight, from those two women. that's going to happen, in just a moment. so make sure you stay tuned. so, how exactly did this happen? okay. we're going to go through it for. you according to the court, then-district attorney made a deal not to prosecute cosby for the indictment involving constand. forcing him to testify under oath in a civil case. years later, though, a different prosecutor used that testimony against cosby in his criminal trial. and who was that original district attorney? a guy named bruce castor. sound familiar? wondering where you have heard that name before? well, this might jog your memory. he is the guy who delivered a rambling defense, heavy on the rambling, light on the defense, of then-president in his
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second-impeachment trial. >> when i was growing up, in suburban philadelphia, my parents were big fans of senator everett durkson from illinois. and senator recorded a series of lectures that my parents had on a record. and we still know what records are, right? on the thing you put the needle down on. and you play it. >> okay. well, we have got a whole lot more to come on this over the next two hours. make sure you stay tuned. we have also got a lot more on breaking news tonight. manhattan grand jury indicting the trump organization and its chief-financial officer, allen weisselberg. that, according to people familiar with the matter. those charges, expected to be unsealed tomorrow. we are going to be bringing you all the latest on that, as well. and there is the house -- the house that voted tonight to create a select committee to
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investigate the insurrection at the capitol on january 6th. the vote, to absolutely no one's surprise, almost entirely along party lines. just two republicans, liz cheney, adam kinzinger, of course, voting with democrats to learn the truth about what happened on one of the darkest days in american history. the rest of the gop, trying to sweep everything under the rug, as they have been doing lately. just sweeping it, all, into a big-memory hole. just like senate republicans did last month. claiming the select committee would be partisan, which is garbage. gop deniers don't care about bipartisanship, at all. if they did, they would have voted for that independent-bipartisan commission last month. you see, that commission had the name in it. bipartisan. but they didn't vote for that. republican sources telling cnn, they were embarrassed that some of the police officers who risked their lives defending the capitol were there to see their cowardice, today.
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one of those officers is a man that i have gotten to know very well. you have seen him on this show. he is a truth-teller. it is officer michael fanone. and he says that he is shocked, but not surprised, that 190 republicans voted no today. he'll be here, tonight, and you will want to know what he says. you'll want to hear it. so, he'll be here. we have a jam-packed two hours for you on all of this news. the breaking news, on all of these subjects. so, let's get straight to the bill cosby released from prison today. joining me now, two of cosby's accusers. joan tarsich and shalane both join us. with them, her attorney. hi, joan, how are you? >> don, i'm fine. >> joany and i have become friends over the years and i am so happy to have her here to
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discuss this. so, joany, thank you. to see this conviction thrown out. it's -- i know it is daefb sta devastating to you but how are you feeling? >> a friend of mine called me from italy, this morning, and said did you hear the bill cosby news? and i said, what? and then, "the new york times" came in over my phone. and i was shocked. i mean, you know, i'm -- i don't think prison helps anybody. i would have liked to have seen him in a group-therapy session with men that have done the same thing. that's what i think might have helped him, maybe. >> yeah. >> you know? he's in such -- he's got to say i didn't do it, i didn't do it, i didn't do it. you know, until his dying days, which probably is sooner than he might think. he didn't look good.
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so i mean, this was horrible, what happened to me. i'm writing about it in my book. it was really horrific. it was a long time ago. and when i was writing about it, it brought feelings up. but -- and when i go back and do the rewrites, it will bring feelings up. but it was like 1970, 1969, i mean, i moved forward. i mean, you can't -- i feel that you can't keep living in the past. that you have to move forward. that you have to exercise things. from your life. and you can't stay there. you can't stay in the grief. you can't stay in the horror of things that happen to you. in your past. a lot of other, ugly things
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happened to me in my past. but i'm not there, anymore. i don't know whether that makes sense. people are probably going to say, no, no, no, he should be in jail. he should be, you know, strung up by his thumbs. what good is that going to do me? >> well, i got to tell you, joan. i know, she feels different than that. you know, we remember the emotional testimony that you describe what you say happened to you when you were 17. you know, you said that you were drugged and assaulted. how do you feel? what do you think about that? >> i -- i'm overwhelmed. >> go ahead. >> i'm totally overwhelmed. when i got the call this morning, i felt like i was hit by a train. you know? he deserved -- because what he did was unjust. he is out on a technicality but
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that doesn't change the fact he is a predator. and all of us girls are, still, suffering. some, more than others. but it's -- it's a travesty of justice to me. >> yeah. joan says she's moved beyond it. it's been tougher for you. >> it's been tougher for me. i go to counseling. i see a psychiatrist. i've been seeing him for years. and it's hard for me, every day. it's even hard, even being married and being woke after sleeping and i have nightmares of him, to this very day. and it's hard on me. >> chelan, when you addressed the court, you directly addressed bill cosby from the stand and you said you remember, don't you, mr. cosby? do you still believe he remembers? >> yes, i do. he looked directly at me. when i said my grandparents' names, he looked up at me. and it just came out, as if they were saying it, themselves.
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and i knew he did and he smiled at me. so, i knew he recognized me. >> uh-huh. >> can i say something? >> go ahead, joan. >> i think -- i don't know how many women he remembers. because he's done this to so many people. i mean, i was in 1970. one woman came up that was earlier than that. i mean, he's probably been doing this since he was [ inaudible ]. >> he was a visitor in my home. my grandmother used to cook meals for him when he came to vegas. so, i know he remembers me. when i said my grandparents' name, i knew he remembered me when he looked at me. a woman, whose house that you came to. you had all the children in my neighborhood enamored with him. yes, he remembered me.
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>> yeah. >> you know, that's -- that's not what i'm talking about. i'm talking about the girls that he didn't just -- you were -- you were different. >> yeah. joan, chelan, i want you to stand by. mark, as well. i am going to take a quick break. okay? but when we come back, i want to get your reaction to bill cosby tweeting, today, that he's always maintained his innocence. how do you feel about that? we'll talk to these two women and their attorney -- one of their attorneys, tonight. we'll be right back. ahhh! get out of here mouse. ahhh! ♪ don't flex your pecs. terminix.
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bill cosby, a free man tonight. released from prison after a stunning decision by pennsylvania's supreme court overturning his sexual-assault conviction. ruling his due-process rights were violated. back with me, now, cosby accusers, joan tarshis and, also, chelan lasha. mark strucker is with us, as well. he is ms. lasha's attorney. so, again, it's good to have all of you on. um, chelan, let me start with you. i am thinking back to that powerful new york magazine cover featuring 35 cosby accusers. do you remember that cover? >> yes. >> so, what do you -- what does today mean for women in other cases coming out, speaking out in the future? >> i think that we opened the
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world for everybody. as well as this has been painful, it's been powerful. and i'm excited to be a part of all the fabulous women that i've met. and how we've stood strong, and bonded together. and how it's brought others to bond together, to stand up for themselves, also. >> mark, thank you for sitting by, patiently. i want to bring you in, now. one thing the pennsylvania supreme court makes clear is that there can be no third cosby trial. the court says that the remedy here is to bar any-further prosecution of cosby in the andrea constand case. so, what is your message, tonight? >> well, thank you, don, for having me on. i would like to point out, as you pointed out at the top of the hour, that the supreme court of pennsylvania did not determine that mr. cosby is innocent. it did not determine that mr. cosby did not commit this act
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against andrea constand. or against any of the other accusers. the court ruled on a procedural ground, that the state of pennsylvania is bound by the decision of a former prosecutor not to prosecute. and the court reasoned that mr. cosby relied, to his detriment, on the public statements of that prosecutor, that he would not prosecute. and that, mr. cosby, therefore, testified in civil cases, in a manner that incriminated himself. and so, the court held that it would be an injustice and a -- and a violation of his due-process rights to prosecute him, at this point. but that doesn't say anything about whether he's guilty or innocent. and i think that's an important fact for everyone to understand. um, the silver lining, in my opinion, about this -- this
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disappointing decision is that there are a number of civil cases that have been on hold, while criminal charges were pending against mr. cosby. including, during this time that the criminal charges -- the criminal conviction was on appeal. and i believe that there is no more reason to keep those civil cases on hold, anymore, because mr. cosby is now not facing criminal charges. >> let me ask you, mark. mark. do you think that it makes the -- the -- the civil cases harder or easier to prove? because, in the -- they can always say, look, my client was, you know, let out of prison. or was convicted, wrongfully. therefore, none of it stands. no one has said that he's -- listen. i know that you are saying that it doesn't say that cosby is not guilty or innocent, however the court decides. but also, can you say that he is -- that he has been proven, in a court of law, at this point? >> well, he's -- he -- he was
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found guilty. >> uh-huh. >> by the jury. he was found guilty and the supreme court did not determine that he's not guilty. they reversed his conviction, based on that reason that -- that i was mentioning earlier. that the state of pennsylvania is bound by the statements of the former prosecutor. i don't think that makes it harder for the civil cases to proceed. i think that the evidence against mr. cosby is overwhelming. i believe my client. i believe the other accusers. i believe that the evidence is strong against him and i think that the civil cases have every -- every chance of prevailing. >> yeah. um, chelan, what do you want to say? you're -- you're -- you're having a hard time. >> it's been hard. and to see him get away like that and everything he done to myself. he wronged a perfect, innocent girl.
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i'm sorry. i apologize. >> there's no need to apologize. go on. >> i apologize. but, you know, god is on my side. it'll be all right. >> joan? what do you want to say? >> i just feel very sad that she is still so affected by this. and it, you know -- it -- it's a horrible thing. when people read my book and go into what he did to me, it's going to shock some people. i can't really put it in detail. and i don't want to talk about it, now. but it was horrific. you know? i was unconscious for a day.
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i don't know. from, like, midnight one day, to noon the next day. and in that time, he brutalized me. and i was covered with black-and-blue marks. they hear -- they hear my cat. >> they probably do. >> meow. anyway, yeah, it's like, you know, more came back to me as i delved into writing my book. so, he did some pretty nasty stuff. what can i say? he's really a sick -- you know, i don't know whether he is a sick man. i don't want to analyze him. but i just think that therapy for people who have issues,
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whoever they are, helps. as she can testify to. >> yeah. >> you know, i -- i'm in therapy, now. i mean, i didn't even know that i had ptsd until five years ago. >> yeah. >> so, you know, [ inaudible ] and get scared so i understand what you are saying. i really understand what you're saying. but, you know, i cannot judge my fellow man, even though my fellow man, you know, allegedly, did things to me. >> well, joan, i appreciate you joining us. and sharing your feelings today. chelan, i appreciate you sharing your feelings. mark, as well. you guys, this is -- we'll continue to discuss this. obviously, this is just -- it just happened. the breaking news today.
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i'm sure there will be much more discussion. take care. joan, i'll -- i'll text you or call you later, joan. thank you. be well. >> thank you so much. >> okay. bye-bye to the cats and dogs, too, as well in the background. everyone is working from home. everyone's zooming or skyping or what have you and that's what happens, real life. i appreciate all of them sharing how -- how they feel, this evening. so, another question for you. is bill cosby free, all, because of a procedural issue, right? laura coates is here. she's going to break down everything for us. was it the right decision? was it the wrong decision? what this, all, means. there's laura. after the break. [swords clashing] - had enough? - no... arthritis. here. new aspercreme arthritis. full prescription-strength? reduces inflammation? thank the gods. don't thank them too soon. kick pain in the aspercreme.
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okay. so, we're back, now. pennsylvania's supreme court throwing out bill cosby's sexual-assault conviction. ruling that prosecutors violated his due-process rights. the state's highest court ordering his immediate release from prison, and barring any-future prosecution on the particular charges involved in this case. lot to discuss, now. cnn senior legal analyst, laura coates, here.
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former-federal prosecutor, by the way. laura, thank you very much. um, explain this to us. supreme court came to this decision saying that bill cosby -- they didn't say that he was innocent? >> no, they didn't. in fact, they never really reached -- no, they did not. they didn't reach that conclusion, at all. they didn't say they thought he should be acquitted. they said this trial never should have gone on because there was an earlier agreement not to prosecute. and that, earlier prosecutor, bruce castor, he didn't make it in his own, personal capacity. he, essentially, foreclosed it because he was doing it on behalf of the commonwealth of pennsylvania. and in doing so, it was the government that agreed not to prosecute bill cosby. and the court found that the later prosecutor could not simply undo what the government already agreed not to do because bill cosby had relied, to his detriment, and actually made statements that they were able to use as incriminating against him, later. it is a procedurally-correct result. but naturally, you can imagine,
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the emotion in seeing the guests that you had on the show. are but a drop in the bucket of all of the emotion that we are seeing come out and the visceral reaction because it had nothing to do with the actual trial. and what the jury found for guilt. >> well, that's what i wanted to ask you. and you can make a distinction, right? there is a distinction. there is nuance, laura. that, what you -- what people believe cosby did was horrible. the -- you can feel for the victims, and understand how emotional and how they would feel about this. but then, also, agree that, procedure procedurally, it was the correct thing to do. am i wrong with that? >> no, you're right. and that really is the moral conundrum for so many people. the idea of how and what happens in the -- in the system of justice doesn't always have what feels like just results. and that's really the problem here. because again, it had nothing to do with what the jury found. the court, supreme court, did not say that there was, somehow, some procedural error in the
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trial. an issue with juror misconduct. they did not say that the government failed to even meet their burden of proof. what they said was it never should have gotten there because a prosecutor's agreement should have been ironclad enough. it, essentially, enticed bill cosby not to -- or -- or to speak against his -- his due process interests, against his right against -- and was used against him later as expected but this was not the supreme court saying this man was innocent. >> i have a short time here left. i just want to ask you, is this the end of the road? can -- can they overturn this? or is this the end of the road for andrea constand? and can this be appealed and so on? >> unfortunately, the only people to appeal it to is the united states supreme court and it's unlikely they would take a case like this. because the underlying facts of the case and the legal arguments, frankly, are not that complicated. but i will say, remember, other cases might not be time barred. might be able to bring cases
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against bill cosby. but this one, these facts of this case, the supreme court said, it is the end of the road here. >> and for other accusers, you said it may not be time barred. and so, there may be -- there -- >> if they are not time barred, they could. if they're not time barred. but again, a lot of the cases that have come up, the allegations, are things that predated even the allegations of andrea constand. >> got it. >> it's really -- can have a chilling effect, frankly, on other victims of sexual assault. >> thank you, laura. it needed explaining, you did it perfectly. we appreciate it. thanks so much. so he defended captitol on january 6th and today, he was there, again, watching the house vote to investigate the insurrection. officer michael fanone. there he is. he tells us about it. he's next. (upbeat pop music in background throughout)
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today in approving a select committee to investigate the january-6th attack. after the senate gop blocked a bipartisan commission. cheney releasing a statement saying, in part, here it is, and i quote. since january 6th, the courage of my party's leaders has faded. but the threat to our republic has not. our nation and the families of the brave law-enforcement officers who were injured defending us or died following the attack deserve answers. i believe the select committee is our only, remaining option. she is talking about heroes like d.c. metropolitan police officer -- officer michael fanone, who was brutally attacked. assaulted and tased while protecting our capitol on january 6th. >> i got one! >> easy. >> officer fanone suffered brain
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injury and a heart attack. he was invited by house speaker nancy pelosi to attend today's vote on capitol hill. and he joins me, now. mike, thank you, sir. how are ya? >> i'm hanging in there. thanks for having me on. >> only two republicans, just two, some of your colleagues who, also, defended the capitol on the 6th joined you back at the scene of the crime. and that's what it is. a scene of the crime. to witness the vote today. gop sources tell our jamie gangel, a correspondent here, that they were embarrassed to see officers like you today. what were you thinking watching all of this unfold? >> um, i mean, i was -- i was shocked but not surprised. >> that simple? >> that simple. um, i mean, i'm done, like -- i don't know whatever excuses could be made for -- for the republican party, at this point. they've been given ample
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opportunities to, you know, to have an exit ramp from the previous administration. and they've chose to embrace that administration. and doing so, on the backs of hundreds of police officers that responded to the insurrection, which was incited by that president and his supporters on january 6th. >> this is a party of supporting law enforcement, supposedly. did it feel that way, today? has it felt that way over the last weeks or months? >> yeah, no, i mean, it's been an eye-opening experience for me. we've come a long way from the, you know, political rhetoric of the previous administration. saying that the republican party is the party of law and order. and of supporting law enforcement. not to say that, you know, any, particular political party embraces law enforcement or is supportive of law and order, unequivocally. but it's clear, to me, now,
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that, you know, the republican party, as a whole, is not that. i have got to look to individual members to earn that -- the right to say that they're supportive of law enforcement. and right now, 190 republicans did not earn that right. >> uh-huh. listen. um, you -- were you -- were you able to talk to politicians who voted against this committee? >> um, i mean, i had a meeting, last week, with -- >> but not today? >> today? no, i did not have that opportunity. >> yeah. but you spoke with kevin mccarthy last week? and tell us about that. >> um, i mean, i don't know. like, he was cordial. but he's -- you know, he's a good politician. he was very noncommittal as to some of the specific demands that i had or requests. i asked that he denounce the 21
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house republicans that voted against the gold medal bill to acknowledge and honor my co-workers, who responded to the january-6th insurrection. i asked him to take this special committee seriously, and to appoint serious participants, not obstructionists. i, also, asked him to denounce andrew clyde's statements regarding january 6th as being a normal-tourist day. and also, to denounce the baseless theory or conspiracy theory that, somehow, the fbi, the premiere-investigative law enforcement agency in this country, was responsible for the january-6th insurrection. which was inspired by, and, you know, by the former president.
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>> yeah. listen. were there people there who surprised you today? i understand you had some interesting encounters. >> yeah. no. i mean, obviously, all my interactions with -- with speaker pelosi have been wonderful. she's been incredibly supportive of me and my family. um, i, also, had the opportunity to meet with ilhan omar. which was an interesting interaction. i think she went there, initially, to speak with one of my colleagues from the metropolitan police department. who was from the -- the same area that she grew up. which i found to be, like, incredibly genuine and meaningful, for me. it was a big deal, for me, to -- to be able to bring those officers up on the hill. and have lawmakers express their appreciation to them, and show them how supported they are. but my interaction with -- with
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her was very unique. i think, when -- when i asked to shake her hand and she shook my hand, i told the press there that, you know, if they publish this photo, they need to put the headline up that "hell has frozen over." which -- which was obviously just poking fun at the fact that, you know, she's gotten a reputation, i think, of being anti-law enforcement. which, you know, from some of the conversation i had with her, i found to be untrue. um, and that's been true, really, across the board. i think, a lot of people who, you know, a lot of our lawmakers who are covered by certain-media outlets are given a reputation. or -- or a monicker that they are, you know, anti-american or anti-law enforcement. and, again, like, i found that, you know, with my personal interactions, not to be the case. >> yeah. we're going to talk to officer
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♪ well before you abuse, criticize and accuse ♪ ♪ walk a mile in my shoes ♪ back with me, d.c. metropolitan police officer michael fanone. who defended the capitol on january 6th. mike, would you like house speaker nancy pelosi to appoint representatives cheney and kinzinger to the committee? >> i mean to be honest with you, i wouldn't make recommendations to speaker pelosi as to how to conduct the special committee. i don't think that's my place.
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but i do think liz cheney and adam kinzinger would be well suited for that position. >> well, not a recommendation. would you like to see that? do you think that would be helpful in your estimation? >> i do. >> we're hearing homeland security officials are worried about more violence this summer. they warn that right-wing conspiracy theorists think the former president is going to be reinstated in august. do you think people understand january 6th could happen again, there's a possibility with all these conspiracy theories, that people could be angry if in fact, or when that does not happen? >> it doesn't surprise me, again. you know, i feel like the republican party has been given ample opportunities to put this, you know, the rhetoric which led to the january 6 insurrection to bed, and they have deviated from that. you know, what i saw today was a lot of argument being made
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against the special committee, and the reason behind it was that we had already had multiple investigations into the january 6th investigation, including the criminal investigations. well, you know, i've talked about that before. i think when you had senator klobuchar on. those investigations were, you know, looked into the security failures and some of the, you know, force mobilization that day. i see that as a band-aid on a gunshot wound. if we don't address the root causes of the january 6th insurrection, that is to say that it was a political -- politically motivated event, inspired by and incited by the former president and his supporters, directing americans
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to attack the capitol building, if we don't address that, absolutely there's, you know, room for more political violence. >> yeah. hey, mike, i know that you're tired. as they say, down but not out. i think that you should continue to fight for what you want. you're the leading voice on this, quite frankly, so i know that you're tired. i know that you're weary, just because i know you. but continue on. soldier on, okay? >> yeah, i mean, i'm not going anywhere. if you ask my bosses at mpd, they know i'm a persistent mf-er. i'm not going anywhere. >> that's why your initials are mf. thanks, mike. i'll see you soon. >> thanks, buddy. >> thank you. bill cosby out of prison after serving only three years of his ten-year sentence. and we'll hear from another of his accusers and one of his former lawyers. that's next.
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