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been ruled ineligible in the olympics because of a drug test that found marijuana in her system. u.s. track and field roster was announced and richardson not on the list, means she also will not be able to compete in the 4x100 relay. governing body said it was sympathetic to richardson but also said this. quote, as our heart goes out to sha'carri, we must realize that fairness for all athletes trying to secure their dreams on the u.s. track and field team. sha'carri used marijuana after learning her biological mother had died. now to chris. >> that situation stinks. it stinks for her, but it stinks for the country to have arguably the best not on the team for something that's not a performance-enhancing drugs. rules matter, standards matter, but there is supposed to be some
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type of balance and subjectivity. i'm actually surprised this country and its leadership in that arena of olympic sports has been as quiet as it has in defense of her. anderson, appreciate your reporting. i'm chris cuomo. welcome to "prime time." we just celebrated the birth of our nation. we're all about being free. we are about independence and it's beautiful. it's a big part of what makes america beautiful. as an extension of that pride, there should be a nod to the profound sense of purpose that the american experiment requires. this is hard work. and in this country we have to learn to choose our hard now. it's hard to do things the right way, it's hard to do them the wrong way. look, the sha'carri richardson story speaks to this. she broke the rule, she admits she broke the rule. isn't that the end of it? are all rules equal? who really loses here? is weed a performance-enhancing drug? i think it's something you got
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to think about and you have to pick your fights to take. i'm picking my fight tonight. i must remind you tonight we are marking six months since january 6. i know a lot of you are going to roll your eyes. do me a favor. roll them but keep them open, all right? because on that day, many who celebrated this weekend saying they love this country tried to destroy it. please keep your eyes open. the fbi released new evidence to catch the worst of the worst who are still at large. do we care about that anymore? do we care about people that the federal authorities say committed terroristic acts and they can't find them, do we care? because we used to care about that more than anything else. violent offenders that day, part of a trump mob, and that's what they were, and they have yet to be identified. watch what they were doing. watch them assaulting officers. >> chill, bro. off --
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>> this is our house! >> time's up. >> it's interesting to me how many people think, i wish the video could be slowed down so i could see it better. then they'll dismiss that january 6 was a big deal right afterwards. why do you want to see the video clearer if you're not willing to accept the reality that's painfully obvious already? what good is it to have a mouth that says blue lives matter if you can have hands and feet that do this. around 140 officers assaulted, some very badly. this is the truth. period. it is no less the truth because black lives matter supporters committed acts of violence, too. even if you want to believe that the media was okay with what they did, which sure as hell isn't true on this show, but even if you want to say they
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were, it doesn't change this. and be clear, what happened on january 6 has no equal in terms of what and who was targeted and how. and you know it. these are not tourists. they are terrorists. the fbi said it, not some partisan hack. take a look. do these look like the best among us? patriots? just be straight. forget the left and right. just be reasonable. if these people were brown, every trumper would condemn them. the right side of the aisle would still be talking about nothing else. trying to break into the united states capitol to attack congress and the vice president? and remember, what were among the last words they heard?
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these. >> we're going to have to fight much harder, and mike pence is going to have to come through for us. >> it never was fair for pence, by the way. he had a ministerial duty. he was never going to change the outcome, and trump knew that. this weekend the disgraced ex-president himself told you exactly how he helped hurt us while rambling about nonsense. listen. >> there's a word, disinformation. if you say it enough and keep saying it, they'll start to believe you. >> you are they. you are they. that's what he does. and did. yes, others do it, too. yes, you can fear radical
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liberalism. feel that wokeness, cancel culture are being weaponized against you as white people and that it's unfair. you can believe that. but what legitimacy is there to your belief if you cannot admit that trump inciting followers to fight back and go to the capitol and then they went and did that and tried to break in? if you can't own that, where is your intellectual honesty? where is the integrity that anything you want to hold as truth? this was the worst of all of it. you're not going to find a protest that turned into a riot where they attacked congress and did these kinds of things to this many cops. so why would you believe that? trump just told you again that
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he knows that if he lies enough, many will fall hook, line and sinker. and they did. one accused capitol rioter admitted just that to us on the show. >> i honestly put a man above jesus christ as my lord and savior. i believed a man. i believed what was being told to me. he was the president of our united states. >> you guys said after this, that interview, to me, what an idiot. he's not even a real christian. save the judgment. but don't spare yourself the analysis of why -- he wants to keep himself out of jail. of course. but do you know how many are saying the same thing? what does it mean to you if those who are supposedly the most devote are now saying the
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man was a deceiver? they're only doing it to help themselves. why were they believing it in the first place? you don't think that wasn't just about helping themselves, blaming somebody else for their own problems? but you were okay with that part. so now you have only one member of what must be called the party of trump. it's about nothing else. only one, who is, of course, out of favor because she's not enough about trump, joining democrats to look at what led to this disgrace. what hope does that leave us for any kind of closure? let's bring in a better mind. house oversight committee member democratic congresswoman stacey plaskett. former trump impeachment manager for round two. welcome back to the show. none of this is new, yet you move forward, anyway, because? >> because the truth matters.
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because our country matters. therefore, we must protect it. part of that protection is accountability and justice. and so without the support of the republicans, we have to have a select committee that is going to look into not just who, but the how and the why and with what methods they tried to bring down this country on january 6. and those that will stand with us are the true patriots and are the ones who believe that blue lives, as well as all lives, matter. >> counterpoint. the doj is already doing it. congressional bodies can do it within the committees. this special committee is a nod to you not trusting those other institutions and wanting to politicize this. >> oh, that's not it at all. remember that this was an attack on the congress.
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this was an attack on our house, and who are we as members of the house if we do not try and protect our house? if we do not utilize the power that is vested in us, the power responsibility that we have to ensure that individuals who not only attacked the capitol but attacked our democratic institution and our democratic process are brought to justice. the justice department is going after individuals and their mandate is to criminally hold them liable. our mandate is much broader than that. our mandate is to ensure that this does not happen again. and we cannot do that through various committees that are each doing hearings in their respective. we have to do that as a whole. we tried to bring in republicans in a bipartisan manner and made sure the report was done before the election so it did not have
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a taint of politics in it. the republicans didn't want to do that. these are also the individuals who didn't want to beef up capitol police in the last augmentation of appropriations. these are individuals who did not even want to vote to give a congressional medal to those officers who protected them. these are individuals who not only, chris, are concerned -- are not concerned because it was not black and brown lives who did it, but are also not concerned because they are the party of trump. if the former president is not in favor of it, they are not in favor of it. they are holding a man above country. they are holding a man above their supposed belief that the police are important to us. how do they sit in the chamber, many of them like kevin mccarthy, having security details made up of capitol police officers that are
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protecting him on a daily basis 24 hours a day and do not believe in supporting them either through an appropriation to ensure that they have the right equipment, the right number, but also don't believe they should receive the congressional medal of honor. that is a shame on him that he has those individuals protecting him and he can't protect them. >> i hear the arguments and i think that it is regrettable that that party has ceded its authority and its agency to trump, because you guys need strong conservative counters. you need a battle of ideas. and you need to be pushed to a point of compromise that makes sense for the greatest number of people, and you don't have now. that's a problem for all of us. the question is, are you making it any better? your blame is laid at the right set of feet. they're not going to give you bipartisanship on this. so how can you hope to do anything more than preach to the converted with anything you come
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up with, and how do you expect to do anything to hold anyone to account just as a political body? >> well, we have the power of subpoena. we have the power to bring this to hearings. i have full confidence in the members and benny thompson who is going to be chairing this. he has been masterful in homeland security since its creation, along with my other colleagues that are going to be there. and they are going to bring a report that will bring accountability, that will make recommendations to not only support the institution of congress and capitol police but other institutions. it may be that we need more support in our fbi. it may be that there are issues within the department of justice or in other intelligence agencies that we have responsibility to be accountable to and to review and have oversight over. and they're going to make sure that that's done. and that's the purpose of having this select committee is not
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only to bring accountability to trump and to those individuals who did this, but to bring accountability to our institutions that allowed this to happen. >> you really think there's a chance -- >> while at the same time, chris, we're -- go on, i'm sorry. >> say what you're going to say, but you know my question. do you really believe there is an existing threat that something like this could happen again? >> well, we see it -- i'm sure that the threats are continuing. there are threats on individual members, there are threats on institutions. we have wackos within the trump organization and his cadre of sycophants that are trying to rally the troops to come back to the capitol, to wreak mayhem on our democratic institutions, to talk about trump coming back to office during august while we're trying, as i was going to say, to do the people's business, to work out a bipartisanship, an agreement on infrastructure that our
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president has brought forward, president biden. to work on jobs, to work on wealth creation in african-american communities and other places, to ensure that we have the support so that women can go back to work who have lost so much during the covid pandemic. those are the things that democrats and those of us who want to work in a bipartisan manner are attempting to do while at the same time, you know, protecting our voting rights, ensuring that police justice and police reform takes place. we have to, at the same time, make sure that the capitol and our democratic institutions hold fast during this time. >> i appreciate you, representative, making the case on "cuomo prime time." thank you for joining us, stacey plaskett. >> thank you. thank you for not letting us forget. >> be well. you're always welcome. i don't understand this conservatorship thing with britney spears. talking to all the experts in that area of law, trying to find
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other examples to bring it up to you to make more sense. i can't. i've never seen a case like this. this celebrity, adult individual, is good enough to perform? knock us off her socks. everybody who sees her shows, i can't believe -- but she can't run her own life. legally she's not allowed to do that, but yet she can go out and work and wow crowds. that's different? what is she, a dolphin? a key member of her team is asking to quit along with a key figure in her fight for independence. why? let's talk to her former lawyer, next. liberty mutual customizes car insurance so you only pay for what you need. how much money can liberty mutual save you? one! two! three! four! five! 72,807! 72,808... dollars. yep... everything hurts.
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it comes two weeks after the testimony where she called the 13-year conservatorship abusive and asked it to be terminated. he did not file any paperwork to that end. but resignation is latest in spears' circle. her manager resigned today citing spears' desire to retire. last week, bessamer trust, the firm to oversee the the estate along with her father jamie stepped aside as well. what can we glean from this resignation? this as a legal situation? her former attorney did not resign, welcome to "prime time." what do you make of these? are they to be seen the same way? let's start with the money guys. that one seems to be different
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than the money manager and the lawyer. how do you see it? >> i see it as a lot of people made a lot of money over britney for many years, but now people are worried about their reputations. bessemer doesn't want to be a co-conservator, because what financial company wants to be trust us, we'll take over your life against your will. not a good look. they're dropping like flies now, finally after britney has had an opportunity to talk to us directly about what's been going on. >> why would the manager drop? and why would the lawyer drop without advocating for her own case? >> well, let's talk about the lawyer for a second. despite a litany of troubling questions about sam ingham's involvement, he now is finally resigning reportedly because he's upset about what britney said about him.
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he's contradicting her testimony saying he told her she had the opportunity to seek termination and she ignored his advice. i have two things to say about that. how does tmz know what sam ingham and britney spears talked about in private? in this country we have attorney/client privilege and it applies even if your feelings get hurt because what of your client says. the second thing is, we're now supposed to believe that it was britney's fault, that it was britney's choice to ignore her lawyer's advice, and isn't that inconsistent with what sam ingham told the judge just eight months ago that britney is like a comatose patient who can't even say what she thinks or wants. >> how does she perform? >> how does she perform? conservatorships are supposed to be for people that can't
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function in life. >> right. >> how is it possible she's able to function so well on stage, on tour, make millions of dollars for all of these people and somehow she needs a conservatorship. >> so what are we missing? you have jamie spears, the father, asking to investigate britney's claims. very weird. great delay tactic when he's not going to pay, the estate will. either the allegations will be shown to be true, in which case corrective action must be taken, or they'll show to be false in which conservatorship can take its course. not acceptable for them to do nothing in response to the testimony. how crazy is it when the guy she's going after is the only one who want the situation to be litigated? >> right. well, it is weird. and if jamie wants to do her daughter a favor, he ought to resign. it's long overdue. he never should have been put in place in the first place. chris, thousands of people could
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have been made the conservator. you didn't need to have her father, or as her lawyer calls jamie, daddy. conservatorships are supposed to protect people who are vulnerable. why would you choose someone as conservator who makes the conservatee more vulnerable? this conservatorship was supposed justified because men were manipulating britney. we needed a conservator to allow different men to be able to manipulate and control her. the real tragedy in britney's life is we adultified her as a child and we need to stop infant illizing her as an adult. >> i don't see the gender play here so much. putting the father in charge is something that sometimes happens, but there is a bigger problem here and i still don't
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understand it. anything you can figure out about it, please give us a call and i'll have you back to discuss. i don't understand why this judge isn't engaging in what always happens in these situations based on my research, which is this bona fide fight over the competency of the individual involved. that's what happens in every one of these other cases i can find. it's not her dad saying, yeah, let's look into it. it's, who is your doctor, who is my doctor, and let's talk about who i am and what kind of shape i'm in. it's not happening here and that's weird. adam, thank you for being on. i appreciate it. >> you're welcome. i want to take you inside the gate. i really believe this will pay off for you guys in you pay attention. some things have to resonate. some things just matter. this talk about isolate in the game is everything. because it's why you hate politics, okay? it's why you hate what they do. there are a few who spew more than senator ron johnson.
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is sustained. it is moving parallel to the west coast of florida. cat 1 is plenty strong enough to do damage. it's expected to make landfall tomorrow morning in the state's big bend region. we're seeing storms like elsa too frequently. this is the earliest we've ever had this many named storms again. that's why we need to call out garbage in the form of the game. the target tonight was republican senator ron johnson. to cnn and his local paper he says stuff like, my statements are consistent. i'm not a climate change denyer. then our k-file team finds this after he's back home at a republican women's lunch, you know, when you speak the truth. >> i don't know about you guys, but i think climate change is bull --. by the way, it is. >> amen. >> sounds like a denier, just a
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month ago. climate change doesn't have a chance when a pandemic can be ignored and january 6 can be called a group of tourists by the same guy. some see johnson as selling stupid. i see something worse. i know this guy. i remember him when he came to the senate, a businessman, and he said i don't know anything about these politics, i'm just here to make things happen. to make deals, find progress. he wanted to come on my show and show economic theories and principles and do charts to justify policies. now he's this? this is how he responds to a heat wave gripping north america, almost 100 dead in oregon? it is obvious what he is doing wrong, he keeps doing it because that's the game. whether it was in 2010 when he said, i absolutely do not believe in the science of man-caused climate change, or when he's repeatedly tried to play dumb when green land's name
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is enough to dismiss the climate crisis. he's saying it because it works. that's what the game does as long as you're willing to dumb down and divide. six in ten americans know global warming is already happening, and that's why half the aisle are trying to get to you deny science like they did the pandemic. republicans? the number is half that. this is the problem with the game. half? johnson knows the more you see the blue line on something like this go up, the more he's willing to stand in opposition. never mind his home state is facing far-ranging consequences for major economic sectors due to what? reality of climate change. if congress serves up money for states for that, he's going to want some. if he cared about serving the people in his state, he would care about how many times he's been caught talking out both sides of his mouth. there's no shame in the game, right?
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hypocrisy is fine as long as it gets you where you want to be. it's the game. make it stop. now, johnson also insists that the capitol attack was an armed insurrection, that they didn't have enough weapons. they stayed within the rope lines. we just showed you the new video. he knows he's b.s. on this. but it doesn't matter because it works. what does a key democrat make of the ongoing mockery of january 6? the house majority whip. what is accountability? what needs to happen, next. welcome to allstate. here, if you already pay for car insurance, you can take your home along for the ride. allstate. better protection costs a whole lot less. click or call to bundle today. centrum multigummies aren't just great tasting... they're power-packed vitamins... that help unleash your energy. loaded with b vitamins... ...and other key essential nutrients... ...it's a tasty way to conquer your day. try centrum multi gummies.
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six months to the day. we are in a bad spot, the bad spot as on january 6 itself. while the party of trump wants you to think that what the fbi called a terror attack was really nothing, it is likely more that january 6 represents everything about why our congress and our country are suffering hard times. let's discuss with house majority whip democrat james clyburn.
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congressman, good to have you. thank you, sir. >> thank you very much. >> i was speaking earlier with representative plaskett about the point of this commission. if you don't have bipartisan buy-in, what do you hope to achieve that will get you to any kind of consensus on this? >> well, you know, having these discussions in the congress is very, very important. we know what happened on january 6. we now have a committee that's been established by the speaker. she's picked eight outstanding people to carry out this mission. i would hope the minority leader, kevin mccarthy, will appoint the five, and then let's get to finding out who and why. we know what and we know where. we need to find out who and why.
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so i think it is bipartisan already. nobody can deny that the republicans nancy pelosi has put on there is anything but a republican. it is bipartisan. if kevin doesn't participate, let's go forward with these eight and see if we can get to the bottom of it. >> the problem is, we're stuck in the time where people pretend that the truth is what they want it to be. january 6 is an egregious example of it, because we all saw, heard and felt the same things. it gets trickier with your other big battle, which is voting rights. you said something that had my radio audience on fire today. jim clyburn says nobody in the democratic party is against voter i.d. he's always been okay with voter
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i.d., it's just what the standard is that is his issue. and all the callers wanted to talk about it today. make the case in light of this criticism. no, no, no, the democrats say they don't like voter i.d., that it's disproportionately a suppressive device and a chilling effect on people who live in big areas and take mass transit and don't want to go to the dmv or don't have the time or the access to go, and that's usually what the response is. you say, no, we're fine with it, with a "but." what's your case? >> as long as the voter i.d. is an i.d. that everybody has access to. one of those things happens to be the voter registration card. when i went to register to vote, i got a card. i keep it in my wallet. you might not be able to read it because i've had it there so long. every time i go vote, i present my i.d. now, this has always been. the problem was, when they started saying, you got to have
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a photo i.d. and a photo from a hunting license is okay. but a photo from a student activity card is not okay. that's a bunch of junk. that's what we are against. we are against i.d.-ing yourself. so can you imagine when people come up with a voter i.d., using utility bills and that sort of thing to determine who they are, that's all right. but when you start telling me i have to have a photo i.d. i don't drive anymore, i don't have a driver's license, and i got to have some kind of government-sponsored i.d. and you make me pay for it, that's a problem, and we've always been against that. we have never been against i.d.-ing yourself when you go vote. >> congressman, you know what this is about. this is about them getting more
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of theirs and less of yours. you have to forgive me, i have the covid tongue. sometimes my brain moves faster than my mouth can. that's what this is about. it's about maximizing their number and minimizing your number. everybody knows it. they'll say, oh, hunting licenses are state i.d.s and that's why they're okay and school i.d.s aren't. that's beside the point. when you show up at the polls and you say, i am congressman jim clyburn, they take a picture of you and it goes in the database as you, jim clyburn, and it's there every time you vote. you don't have to present anything, you're already in the system. >> that's true. here in south carolina, what we did is you go and get a photo i.d. as your voter registration card. take the picture right there and it's on your card. nobody has a problem with that. >> why not do that in every state? make that federal law. give them the money to do it. >> i think that's one way for
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reconciliation to work. if we put that into the bill, then you have to start spending money, then reconciliation can apply to the budget, maybe that's the way to go. but to be serious about it, so long as the i.d. is standard for everybody, we don't have a problem with it. but don't give me something different that you give the other guy. >> you think you got any chance of getting this done? >> yes, i do. i really believe that we are going to pass s-1, which went over as hr-1, and i really believe that s-1 will incorporate the things that we think are important in the john lewis voter education and advancement act. that's what we want to see happen. s-1 should be -- should
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incorporate the john lewis, which is hr-4. >> we'll be watching it. it certainly matters. i wasn't kidding. great fix. have them do it when you show up at polls. put the money into that and everybody is happy. there's your i.d. congressman jim clyburn, thank you very much for making the case. be well. >> thank you very much. >> god bless. so the war against vaping. we're sleeping on vaping again, you notice that? you got kids? that's why i started talking to you about this. i got it in my home. everybody's kid is susceptible to this. they knew what they were doing, they were saying vape will make people stop smoking. that works for some adults. it's had the opposite effect on kids. they're vaping like crazy and everybody knows it. so could a major e-cigarette maker be put out of business soon because of this? we're going to talk to a parent of a teen who is recovering from vape addiction. and let me tell you something. i know her. she's a good parent.
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only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ it's been three years since the fda declared youth vaping an epidemic. should juul, the most well-known vaping company in the u.s., be allowed to keep selling its e-cigarettes. e-cigs, they're called. the company, after all, did agree to pay the state of north carolina $40 million to settle a lawsuit that was claiming the company markets its product to kids and misled us about the risks. that's just one of thousands of suits lodged against the company. juul, for its part, did not admit to intentionally targeting youth. the company and defenders
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the president of the american vaping association makes this argument. >> if you ban flavors, you're going to increase smoking. one of the most popular flavors among adults are sweet and fruits. >> your argument is our kids will smoke unless they vape? is that what you're trying to say? >> we don't want anyone to vape, but the reality is we just saw from 2018 to 2019 the largest increase in smoking. -- decrease in teen smoking. >> but what you are selling is killing them. what goes into your devices are causing a lot of problems around this country, and how do you not have responsibility for that? >> here is the answer to the question. they are responsible. and too many kids are drawn to vaping by marketing and peer pressure. as much or more than cigarettes today. ask a parent who pays attention. dorian fuhrman is the co-founder of pave, parents against e-vaping cigarettes. it's good to have you on "prime time."
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>> it's good to be with you, chris. >> i saw you this weekend, it still matters. it's not in the headlines, shame on us, but the problem continues. the idea that we have moved past this, what have you learned in your advocacy work about what's happening today with kids and vaping? >> we haven't moved past this. i think it's a problem, because we're not talking about it. you know, juul created the youth vaping epidemic. they did not launch their e-cigarette device to help adults quit smoking. they create d a sexy new nicotine delivery system. they delivered a secular e-vaping system and kids flocked to it about five years ago. this is personal to me. my son was introduced to juul the summer before ninth grade. but what really upset us was a juul representative was sent to a kid's ninth grade class under the guys of an anti-drug talk
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and told kids without our knowledge that vaping was approved. and totally safe. the issue is there are 4 million kids vaping in the country. about 40% of our kids are vaping in this country and we're not doing anything about it. at the same time the fda is considering accepting vaping flavored products, and that is not okay. >> they haven't accepted the kind of health risks yet. what do you say? >> there is no proof of that. juul is big tobacco and big tobacco is juul. there are owned in part by altrua. they are up to the old tricks. they paid to have a peer review journal of their own paid research published and open, no subscription necessary, so
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everybody could see the research. that it was helpful for smokers. this is what happened in the 1950s when doctors told patients they should smoke cigarettes. so there is no proof that it helps adult smokers quit smoking, but there is proof that kids are addicted to flavors. we represent the millions of parents around this country who are dealing with this vaping epidemic in their homes firsthand. >> here's what juul says about the settlement and i'll give you a chance to respond to it. we're going to put it up? good. this settlement is consistent with our ongoing effort to reset our company as we continue to combat underage using and advance the opportunity for harm reduction for adult smokers. we seek to continue to earn trust through action. for example, we ceased the distribution of our non-tobacco, non-menthol flavored products in advance of fda.
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guidance and mass market product advertising. how do you view this course -- to change course to right their ways? >> they haven't changed their course. the most powerful one for teens is menthol. they have left the pod on the market and they are applying for approval for that menthol. 40% of kids are vaping menthol and examine dozens percentage more are vaping the iced flavors. they're iced and mentholated. the fda said they were going to end the sale of menthol cigarettes because menthol is incredibly toxic and incredibly addictive. for that reason they shouldn't accept any menthol products.
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it's toxic and amplifies the nicotine in the product. we would have a whole generation of kids who would have never vaped, they would have never smoked e-cigarettes and now we have addicts. >> the health effects are real. >> you can find them online. dorian thurman, thank you for the advocacy. thank you for being with us. >> thank you, and come to parents.org and join us and fight back. parents against vaping. >> we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ ♪ comfort in the extreme. ♪ the lincoln family of luxury suvs.
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thank you for giving us the opportunity. don lemon tonight gets the upgrade as d. lemon sees if he can eat his body weight in nachos. laura coates. >> is that what he's doing? i like nachos. >> at best that's what he's doing. >> if that's the upshot of all of it, chris, i don't know what to think. nice show as always, great show. thank you for the humor and laugh tonight. i needed it. i appreciate it.
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