tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN July 8, 2021 5:00pm-6:00pm PDT
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>> thanks to all of you for joining us. "ac 360" starts now. good evening. there's a lot to get to tonight. in a moment we have breaking news and a startling admission from pfizer on the efficacy of its vaccine against the delta variant of the coronavirus. also ahead, senator bernie sanders on democrats' plans to protect voting rights. we begin with breaking news out of haiti and the assassination of that country's president. moments ago the country's acting prime minister just paraded out individuals they say were involved in the assassination of the former president almost two days ago. we're working to get that video in for you, including among those individuals, again according to the acting prime minister, were two americans. he also said authorities have arrested most of the attackers involved. separately officials a short while ago updated the number of suspects killed by police overnight to the number of seven. they described them as foreign
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mercenaries. cnn has obtained video purported to be from that shootout between haitian authorities and the alleged assailants. cnn has not confirmed the authenticity of this video. [ gunshots ] >> now, as we said, authorities were saying there were seven people in that shootout all dead. they also are saying there are six people in custody tonight. today haitian media showed two men authorities are calling suspects in the back of a police pickup surrounded by armed guards. we blurred their faces. again, we want to point out cnn cannot confirm the details provided by haitian authorities. all of this of course taking place in a country under former
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martial law where two men now claim the mantle of leadership in an already destitute country, growing weaker due to a growing humanitarian crisis and worsening covid epidemic. i'm joined by journalist harold isaac who's in haiti tonight. there's certainly a lot of rumors flying around in haiti with good reason because of the lack of transparency and all that's happened so quickly. sticking to what we know, what do you know about at least one american being among those arrested, now they're saying two? >> reporter: well, anderson, this is to say the least a spectacular development in the last hour. the investigation seems to have sped up with regards to the assassination of president moise. what we're finding out is that two haitian americans are among those detained and apprehended by the haitian police. but we've learned more about the whole team that has led this
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operation. >> what more have you learned? because there was just a press briefing from haiti's acting prime minister, claude joseph. >> reporter: yes, so the whole current government just held this presser where they presented 26 colombian -- 26 -- so basically had 26 attackers, but they arrested 15 colombian nationals. let me get the numbers right. they say there were 26 colombians. they have the passport to show it. and 15 of them were arrested. 8 of them are on the run. three are dead. so it's just in. and we're still trying to see what the implications are with such a large contingent of foreign nationals carrying out this operation in haiti. >> so this is the first time i'm
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hearing this. you said 26 colombians? >> yes. so the prime minister and the chief of police brought in the numbers. they claim 26 colombian nationals were involved in the operations, 15 were arrested and 8 would be on the run, 3 dead. so it still is very fresh, very early to determine what that may entail. but it certainly is an unexpected turn into the detail and what the implications could be, because it is a large contingent of foreign nationals that have carried out this operation. >> is there any more information about where the investigation itself is leading? >> reporter: well, as per the chief of police in the presser, he said that they were expecting
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to carry on more -- they are still searching for those that are on the run, they're still pursuing them. the issue is that they want the population to be -- to be cooperative and not to seek vigilante justice with regards to these that are still missing in the action. so it's very early to know exactly what are going to be the next steps, but it seems that the scenery mains active and they're still looking for these people. >> all right. harold isaac, i appreciate the update. now to the news we mentioned from pfizer. days after president biden spoke gaining independence from the virus, pfizer says it's seen waning immunity from its coronavirus vaccine and is picking up efforts to develop a booster dose. it's hoeping to seek an emergeny authorization from the fda for a booster dose in august. pfizer is citing data compiled by the israeli government which
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we've talked about in days past which shows that from may to june 6th as the delta virus spread in israel, the vaccine's efficacy against all infections dropped substantially from 95.3% to 64%. and this is a very important but here. efficacy against severe illness and hospitalization did remain high going from 97% to still high 93%. so people were not getting hospitalized, were not getting bad -- very serious version of the illness, of the infection, but more people were getting infected. the spread of the coronavirus is on the rise, as you know, again here in the united states. one factor that sent all three major stock market indices down today. there's new data from georgetown university which identifies at least five large clusters of unvaccinated people, most in the southern u.s., that are vulnerable to covid surges and could become breeding grounds for even more deadly variants. now, as politico remarked today,
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we may have turned a corner but the delta variant was waiting just around the bend. now due to its spread and low vaccination rates in certain areas of the country it threatens to plunge the country into a new era of covid restrictions. i'm joined by dr. leana wen, cnn medical analyst. she's author of "lifelines, a doctor's journey in the fight for public health." dr. wen, with 24 states seeing cases up at least 10%, how concerned are you about this pfizer news? according to the cdc, more than 84 million americans have received both doses of the pfizer vaccine. >> i'm actually concerned about the pfizer news confusing people at this point. i think it's important to put it into perspective. as you mentioned, it's not as if they have new data. they're actually going off of what the israeli ministry of health reported earlier this week. the key take-home from that is that the vaccines that we have are still very effective against protecting against severe disease. so no one should be listening to this and saying i need to go out and get a booster shot right now. now, it does appear that
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immunity might wane or the vaccines are less effective against the delta variant. so i think that's something we need more information about when it comes to mild or asymptomatic illness. i think it's fine for pfizer to apply for emergency use authorization so that boosters can be made available. but we should also say that the israeli data, the israeli data conflicts with some of the other data that actually showed that immunity may last for years and that the mrna vaccines in particular are very effective against the delta variant. >> we should also point out, and correct me if i'm wrong here, but when israel made this report, the actual numbers of people involved was very small so that was one thing to note about the report that there wasn't a huge volume of people who they were basing this report on. >> right. i don't think we even know what the report exactly is. we still don't know is it
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modeling studies, what are they basing their numbers on. part of the problem is that here in the u.s. we don't have our own numbers because the cdc stopped tracking mild and asymptomatic breakthrough infections, which is a big mistake because what we really need to know at this point is what is happening with breakthroughs? who is getting breakthrough infections? is it people who got the vaccine earlier on so is immunity actually waning? is it all the delta variant? also we need to know are people getting breakthrough infections, so they're vaccinated and still getting infected. are they having long-haul symptoms or do vaccines protect against that. very critically, if you have a breakthrough infection, are you still able to infect other people? if so, that has real implications on, for example, vaccinated parents living with unvaccinated children and the kind of activities they could be engaged in. >> pfizer also says that next month it's going to seek emergency use authorization from the fda for a booster dose. there's obviously a lot of people who have not received the pfizer vaccine, have either
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gotten another vaccine or haven't gotten any vaccine. will people who haven't taken the pfizer vaccine, should they be able to get the pfizer booster? i mean if they have taken an astrazeneca or johnson & johnson or whatever it may be? >> there's no reason to believe that you have to stick somehow with one vaccine. in fact there are good scientific reasons why mixing vaccines may boost your immune response. people who got astrazeneca or johnson & johnson, if they were to need a booster, that having a pfizer or moderna, an mrna booster, may actually be helpful. >> dr. leana wen, thank you very much. today missouri governor mike parson called the surge in his state totally misleading. he disagrees with the government going door to door trying to convince people to vaccinate. we have the details on the difficulties to contain the
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virus there. >> reporter: louis michael and patty bunch held off getting vaccinated. not anti-vaxxers, it just wasn't a priority. then they got sick. >> how sick did you two get? >> i remember i was working and then i just -- it felt like a bomb dropped on me. i just wasn't feeling good at all. i thought -- >> you're still recovering? >> i'm still recovering. >> this is not your normal voice. >> no, no. >> this is a month later. >> this is a month later. it has totally devastated me. >> reporter: so sick she thought she'd never see her daughter, ashley, again. >> i remember looking up in the ambulance and i could see our daughter, ashley, driving behind us. and i just thought i knew that one thing when they took me there i wouldn't see her again, see my family. you just have no control. >> reporter: this is louis and patty holding hands in the icu. he thinks he picked up the virus in las vegas.
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then without knowing it gave it to his wife of 30 years. >> when we got to that point where she needed to go first, i thought i was going to be tough and hold on and try to recuperate but it wasn't the case. i immediately went downhill. >> reporter: coronavirus cases, hospitalizations and deaths, again on the rise in missouri. the state's health department estimates more than 70% of the virus circulating in the state is the more infectious, possibly more dangerous delta variant. >> we are seeing more people 30 years and older getting sicker and requiring hospitalization. also we have seen that in this wave, people is getting sicker faster. >> reporter: springfield's mercy hospital has seen hospitalizations rise so quickly, they have brought ventilators in from other hospitals. at springfield's cox health, 90% of coronavirus patients tested have the delta variant. >> this is going to keep happening. you know, it may peak here and
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then it's going to spread to other places. if we don't get enough vaccinated, there's going to be another variant that's probably worse. that's the way viruses work. >> reporter: in green county, population nearly 300,000, health officials sounding the alarm. >> how concerned are you about the weeks and months ahead? >> terribly concerned. i mean yesterday we reported another 240 cases in one day. we're not a huge community. that's a really large number. and we haven't seen these numbers since we had a surge back in december and january. >> reporter: in nearby branson, a huge tourist draw, it is business as usual. vaccinations here even lower than the state. just 25% of all residents here vaccinated. >> what is the biggest barrier you hear to people not getting vaccinated? >> it runs kind of the gamut. maybe they feel like they just want to wait and see, they're
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not quite ready yet. maybe they're just not someone who vaccinates. we've also heard a little concern over how quickly the vaccine was developed. >> reporter: louis and patty think of it this way, the unknown possibilities of getting the vaccine far outweigh the known horrors of the virus. >> the vaccine i feel personally is nothing compared to taking your chances and getting -- >> it's russian roulette really if you want to take your odds and see if you get it and how well you do with it. unfortunately, you're not going to do as well as you think you are. >> miguel marquez joins us now from spruingfield, missouri. is it clear why hospitalizations are rising in the southwest part of missouri and not as much in other parts of the state? >> reporter: i think it's a confluence of factors. branson is just down the road, about 45 minutes away. it's a very big tourist destination. it is business as usual there. the masking, the social
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distancing, all of that has gone out the window as the vaccines have rolled out even though people are not getting vaccinated. very low vaccination rates across this entire area. and that delta variant was first identified in branson and here in springfield in may. it is everywhere in this area and they are afraid it's going to stay in this area until fall when it will cause another outbreak and a lot more misery. anderson. >> miguel marquez, appreciate it. still to come, senator bernie sanders joins us live to talk what democrats can do now that another state is working to enact strict voting laws and after the supreme court and republican senators have thwarted their agenda thus far. also a report from florida on the latest on the recovery efforts in the surfside condo collapse as the death toll now makes this one of the deadliest mass casualty events in u.s. history. ernative voltaren is to pain pills the first full prescription strength gel for powerful arthritis pain relief... voltaren the joy of movement
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groups at the white house to talk been ongoing effort to protect voting rights. this after a supreme court decision will limit challenges that many democrats believe are discri discriminatory. also after senate republicans blocked an election reform bill from being debated. a special legislative session on voting called by texas governor greg abbott began today, just the latest fallout from the former president's continued grip on the republican party and its determination to continue the big lie that he has been spreading. proposed new texas legislation takes aim at among other practices 24-hour voting and drive-through voting. republicans there hoping to follow the footsteps of georgia, florida, iowa and others that have already passed new voting restrictions. vice president harris also spoke today on the importance of voting rights at her alma mater howard university, a historically black university. >> this is the fight of our lifetime. this is the fight of our lifetime. we all stand on the shoulders of
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giants. we will always remember our history. we also understand their legacy and that we are a part of that. >> i'm joined by senator bernie sanders, who's also chairman of the budget committee. chairman sanders, you hear kamala harris saying this is the fight she said of our lifetime. that implies that there's not much that can be done right now on voting rights. democrats in congress have already tried, failed to pass federal legislation to protect against gop state-by-state restrictions. i know president biden says he plans on, quote, speaking extensively on this issue, but is it going to have any impact? >> i hope and expect it will. the house has already passed hr-1 appearnd that is sweeping lentle legislation to deal with gerrymandering and take dark corporate money out of the process. as you know in the senate we can only get 50 votes and the challenge right now is on that particular piece of legislation,
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we've got to ending the filibuster and let majority rule. i think we as a nation, anderson, can disagree on policy, disagree on health care, on education, on economics, that's fine. but you cannot disagree about whether or not ordinary americans, in this case african-americans, latinos, young people, people with disabilities, have the right to vote. that's not debatable. so we are going to have to win that struggle in order to preserve american democracy and end this big lie of trump, that he won the election by a landslide. it is a sad day that so many of the republican leaders actually perpetuate that lie. >> the supreme court, as you know, just recently upheld an arizona voting law that restricts how ballots can be cast. obviously republicans have taken that as an encouraging sign. they control 30 state legislatures across the country, democrats control 18. how do you go state by state and stop voting restrictions from being passed into law with the
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political reality that you pointed out, which is you have to get rid of the filibuster in order to get movement and anything passed through the senate and that seems right now impossible? >> well, i don't know that it is impossible. it is something that many of us are working on. i think we're going to do everything that we can politically to rally the american people, ever everything we can do legally and in the united states senate everything we can to put pressure on our colleagues to finally stand up and say on this issue at least, i would go further, on this issue at least majority should rule. 50 votes plus the vice president says that we're going to pass a voting rights legislation and end this outrageous republican attack on voting rights. that is what we've got to do. >> do you see any change with joe manchin, some of the others who -- democrats who are not for getting rid of the filibuster?
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>> well, we're working on that, anderson. what i've been focusing on for the last many weeks is what i believe to be the most consequential piece of legislation f wor working famils that we have seen since the great depression. it is no secret to the average american that the very rich are getting richer and half of our people are living paycheck to paycheck. people can't afford child care. people can't afford to put dentures in their mouth if they're on medicare. people can't afford to go to higher education. everybody i hope understands that climate change is an existential threat to the existence of our entire planet and we have got to deal with that. what i have been working on with a number of my colleagues is a major, major piece of legislation which finally addresses the long-term crises facing the working families of this country. i hope that we can get something passed within the next month. >> just in terms of getting things passed, i want to play for our viewers something that
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republican congressman chip roy said. he was caught on video saying behind closed doors regarding what the gop strategy is in regards to your priorities, president biden's priorities in particular he was talking about. take a look. >> honestly right now for the next 18 months, our job is to do everything we can to slow all of that down to get to december 2022 and then get in here and lead. i actually say thank you, lord, 18 more months of chaos and the inability to get stuff done, that's what we want. >> that's usually the kind of stuff maybe a republican thinks inside, inside their head and doesn't say outloud. he just basically said the silent part outloud. >> well, let's give him credit for honesty, but mitch mcconnell has more or less said the same thing. look, they understand that what we are trying to do, address the
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crises in our infrastructure, the crisis in climate, the crisis in terms of child care, the crisis in terms of higher education, the crisis in terms of housing, basically the fact that we are trying to address the real needs of working families is not only the right thing to do, anderson, you know what, it is politically popular. look at the polling on virtually every single one of these issues. the american people say yes. we need to make sure that our kids can afford to go to college. yes, we need to build affordable housing so 18 million households are not paying half of their income in housing. yes, we need to pass paid family and medical leave. yeah, we need to extend the child tax credit so that if you have kids, you're going to get a $300 or $400 check every single month so we don't have the highest rate of childhood poverty of every major country
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on earth. it is the right thing to do. what this congressman knows, what mitch mcconnell knows, this is exactly what the american people wanti. so it is good policy, it is good politics. i and my colleagues will do everything we can to pass that legislation. >> senator bernie sanders, i appreciate your time. thank you very much. >> thank you. coming up, president biden defending the u.s. pullout of afghanistan now just weeks away. i'm talk to a former navy s.e.a.l. who served in afghanistan and was wounded there, next. ght now, to give you exceptional care and 20% off your treatment plan. new patients, take the first step with a complete exam and x-rays that are free without insurance. because our nationwide network of over 1,500 doctors at 900 locations all have one goal — to make you smile, today. start now. call 1-800-aspendental or book online at aspendental.com
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president biden announced today that the u.s. mission in afghanistan will ending on august 31st. th today the president defend his decision to pull u.s. troops out. >> as i said in april, the united states did what we went to do in afghanistan, to get the terrorists who attacked us on 9/11 and deliver justice to osama bin laden and to degrade the terrorist threat to keep afghanistan from becoming a base from which attacks could be continued against the united states. we achieved those objectives. that's why we wepgt went. we did not go to afghanistan to nation build. it's the right and the responsibility of the afghan people alone to decide their future and how they want to run
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their country. >> president biden also said a taliban takeover is not inevitable, but the taliban is making gains in the country's north. take a look at this. the video purports to show the taliban blowing up a police building. this comes just days after the last u.s. troops left bagram air base which is the epicenter of america's longest war. the u.s. withdrawal is now more than 90% complete. joining me with his perspective is jimmy hatch, former u.s. navy s.e.a.l. who was injured in combat and is also a friend of mine. jimmy, thank you for being here. tomorrow marks 12 years since you were wounded in afghanistan. as someone who bravely served multiple tours there, when you see images of what's going on in afghanistan and when you read about the withdrawal of american forces, it's obviously very personal to you and others who served there. what do you think when you see this? what do you think of the withdrawal? >> yeah, i'm glad we're getting
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out of there, but it's really sad. it makes me -- it makes me think about the folks who lost their lives there and the people who got hurt and people who come home and have, you know, mental health issues and emotional issues because of their exposure to it. it's very sad. that's just the best word i can come up with, sad. >> is it something you think was the right thing to do, to withdraw at this time? >> i guess so, yeah. i think the sooner the better, really. and i think president biden said a few things. i'm not a huge fan of everything president biden has to say or what he thinks, but i've agreed with him for a long time. i think his idea was a long time ago to just, you know, put a small force in there and hit the people that needed to be hit,
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don't make a bigfoot print and have 100,000 people there. you know, the whole thing is just -- he said we didn't go there to nation build. well, kinda we did. and so what really concerns me, anderson, is that we're going to be in this position where the discussion about afghanistan is going to be based on a political tit for tat and not really on learning what we can do to make sure that something like that doesn't happen again. i remember when i was in the hospital after i got wounded, there was these two older gentlemen came in my hospital room and said hey, man, how are you? i said i'm all right. i said who are you guys? they said we're vietnam veterans and we want to make sure you don't get treated like we got treated. that's pretty compelling. president biden was asked today did he think the comparisons with between an afghanistan withdrawal and vietnam were accurate and he said, no, there's no helicopters pulling people off the roof. i think it's very similar. i mean, yeah, the drama of
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helicopters on the roof of the embassy certainly isn't there, but we have a generation of people that have been affected by this war. you know, what have we learned from it? how are we going to proceed the next time something like this comes up? i think we need to have -- you know, like we do in the military, we have an after action report after we do missions. even if we do training. i think we need to sit down in a place with the right people, the people who made some of the decisions that put us where we were at different points of our time in afghanistan and then some of the people that are their foils. the people that disagree with them. i think we need to sit down and try to figure out lessons learned so we don't do it again, you know. >> it's interesting, the vietnam comparisons. if the turkish forces don't stay to hold on to the airport in kabul, the u.s. embassy personnel there may not be able to stay, you could very much -- if the airport is out, you could end up with scenes of helicopters on rooftops.
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the other similarity with vietnam is the people left behind, the interpreters, people who at risk to themselves, at great risk to themselves helped u.s. forces in vietnam. many were left behind. certainly in afghanistan, that has been a real issue. president biden spoke to it, but how big for you. i've talked to adam kinzkinzinga congressman. that's a big concern of his. as somebody who worked with interpreters and saw the afghans that helped the u.s., is that a priority for you as well? >> heck yeah. the interpreters, not only did they save american lives but they saved -- this is from personal experience, they also saved a lot of the afghans' lives because they understood how to figure out who's who in the zoo during a fast-moving scenario where lives are in the balance. they had good advice. their ability to communicate difficult things very quickly saved lives. look, if we don't take care of
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those folks, we're going to be hard pressed to find people who want to help us out in the future. it's pretty simple really. >> you know, the last time i was there i went with marines in helmand province a little while. one of the things you'd see on the ground is not just how difficult it was in helmand province at that time, how brave the folks serving there were, every day risking their lives out on patrol. also driving for hours on dangerous roads to go to a village to talk to some village elders, to talk about what needs to be done. it was essentially nation building without saying it was nation building. and it was always kind of this odd, you know, thing where we said we weren't nation building but really we -- as you pointed out, we were. >> i think collectively as a nation, we said many things over the 20 or so years that we were involved there. we were at war, but there were times that we had people that we
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could probably have captured or killed that we didn't go after because of circumstances with the political situation there. you know, i just feel like -- that's another great thing about this whole thing. there's nobody you can point the finger to and blame and say, hey, man, you messed this up. there's so many different people, so many administrations, so many senior leaders that were involved that made decisions. i think, again, we just need to get to the bottom of, you know, why we couldn't keep on the straight and narrow like, hey, we need to destroy these guys that tried to harm us and provided a safe place for the people who planned 9/11 and then, you know, then we need to get the hell out of there. was it a money-making thing? i always think about eisenhower and the military industrial complex, right? there's just so many things to think about. again, i want to reiterate this. i think we need to have a severe and serious with serious people after action and look at what
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got us there. and i think honestly i don't think that can happen in congress right now. it's too binary. i don't think -- i don't think it can happen in think tanks really because think tanks are political too. i think it needs to happen in like academia. somewhere like the jackson institute at yale where they have gemsnerals and diplomats a people all over the world. they can bring in this group of people and sit down over a year and go through things. i think that's what we need to do. and i keep going off on this after action because when i was a young guy on the s.e.a.l. teams, i was told, listen, you go to the debrief and you can bring up complaints, things you thought were wrong. the only way you can do that is if you have a solution. right now i just think we did a lot of wrong things in afghanistan. i think the solution is to figure out how not to do it again. some of the guys that i served with have kids now that are in like the service academies. some of those guys were killed. one of them in particular was there at the beginning when we first got involved in
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afghanistan. he was killed in 2011. his son is in a service academy. we owe that dead friend of mine and his kid a good, solid examination of what we didn't do correctly. >> jimmy, thank you for talking tonight and thank you, as always, for your service and the service of those you fought with. i also want to point out that jimmy founded an organization that i'm a big believer of and supporter in that raises money to get body armor for and training and best practices for police departments, military for canine units. jimmy was a canine handler with the s.e.a.l.s, called spike's canine fund. to learn more go to spikescaninefund.org. check out his good work. thanks, jimmy, appreciate it. coming up, the recovery in surfside, florida. the rising death toll. a live report on the collapse,
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we're following breaking news on the condo collapse. i want to go to 360's randi kaye who is in surfside, florida. what is the latest in the recovery efforts, randi? >> reporter: anderson, late today they located another four bodies. first responders say the death toll is now 64 and they believe another 76 are missing. also today families missing loved ones did get to the site. they wanted to pay their
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respects once again to those family members that have not been recovered yet. they held a moment of silence with first responders. of course families still trying to make sense of this tragedy here. i spoke with one man who lost both of his parents in this collapse. he says all he has left from his parents now is his mother's wedding ring, which was found alongside her body in the rubble. >> even after 31 years, they were very much in love. >> reporter: jonathan epstein's parents were asleep on the ninth floor of champlain tower south when the building suddenly collapsed. david and bonnie epstein lived in apartment 901. >> when did you last speak to your parents? >> i had actually spoken with my mom about an hour before the building collapsed. we were both night owls, and just really casual kind of late night texts. i think i sent her something funny. that was about -- yeah, i think that was around 12:10. i think the building came down
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around 1:20. i sent her a paul mccartney song that i thought was cool. we bonded over music a lot. so just a really quick text. >> how did you find out what happened with the building? >> i was about to fall asleep and i saw the cnn alert come across my phone that a building in north miami had collapsed. i immediately went to text my mom, thinking, you know, there's a million buildings, how could it possibly be theirs? and the message on the iphone went from blue to green, meaning that it hadn't been received. >> reporter: back home in brooklyn, jonathan didn't sleep at all that night. then he saw the surveillance video of the collapse. >> when you saw that, what was that like for you? >> it was tough. it was unbelievable. i still -- i'm still struggling to understand this. you know, i immediately tried to call over and over again. i started following everything on twitter.
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>> reporter: desperate for answers, jonathan called around to hospitals and filed missing persons reports. like so many other families, he gave a dna sample. then last week, detectives knocked on his door. >> it's strange right now. i'm struggling to keep track of the days. i believe that detectives showed up at my apartment on thursday or friday to tell me that my mom had had been recovered, her remains had been recovered. two days later that my father had also been found. >> reporter: david epstein was 58. his wife, bonnie, was 56. they had celebrated their 31st wedding anniversary just two months before the collapse. together, they were enjoying early retirement, spending their days scuba diving, kite surfing and jet skiing in the florida sunshine. they had a dog too named chance. for the last decade and a half, his parents returned to the northeast for the summer in april or may, but not this year. they stayed longer because his
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father was treating a shoulder injury and their dog was sick. jonathan is an only child. >> how are you doing? how are you coping? >> i think denial is helping a little bit or just shock. i don't know how i'm feeling. this is so weird and surreal that it's breaking in slowly. and for the time being, i just want to live in my parents' memory. to live the way that i think they would want me to live and to honor their lives and make up for the time that they lost. they were just the best. i'm thinking, you know, i'm thinking of what i'm going to say at the funeral now. i just want to emphasize they were so cool. people would -- when i was younger, my friends would come over and i always felt like they were coming over to hang out with my parents, because they were way cooler than i was.
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i'll miss them so much. >> there's so much pain. what is the process like right now at the site of the collapse? >> reporter: anderson, they are still working around the clock to recover these victims, and they are really taking such care. i mean if you see them up close, they are oftentimes digging with their hands in this pile. they are trying to recover mementos from these apartments, from these victims, then they put them aside into a bucket and give them to the police to be able to return to the families. but also just in terms of how they're handling the bodies that are recovered, they have faith leaders here from all different faiths. they have rabbis and priests on the site to make sure that these bodies are handled with care. as you know, many were jewish people who lived in this building, so they are making sure that their bodies are taken care of along -- in the way that the jewish faith does require. so certainly, anderson, taking
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the best care that they can here on site. >> randi, appreciate you being there, thank you. coming up, remember the backout by democrats in the texas legislature prevented the passage of a bill that democrats said would curtail voting rights. the legislature is back in special session today. next i'll ask the chair of the state democratic caucus what his party is planning to do this time around. we match all the cash back new card members earn at the end of their first year automatically woo! i got my mo-ney! it's hard to contain yourself isn't it? uh- huh! well let it go! woooo! get a dollar for dollar match at the end of your first year. only from discover.
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earlier in the program we reported on how the biden administration is intent on prioritizing voting rights and how texas is in the forefront of the latest effort to pass new laws the democrats say will curtail voting rights. texas did begin its special legislative session today in a second attempt by state republicans to pass that legislation. during the regular session democrats managed to forestall its passage by organizing an 11th hour walkout, depriving republicans of a quorm they needed to pass the bill. chris turner is the chairman of the texas house democratic caucus. he joins me now. chairman turner, you released a statement in which you say in part that "the governor's agenda for the special session shows he's more concerned with pandering to diehard trump supporters and right-wing extremists than he is with serving everyday texans."
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how do you see this playing out, particularly in regards to voting rights? is there really anything you can do? >> good evening, anderson. thanks for having me back. and absolutely, i think there are a number of things democrats can do. as you know, we are in the minority here in texas, the state house, the republicans control statewide offices. democrats in texas have proven to be very effective in fighting back against extreme republican ideas that would harm the people of texas. and let's be clear about what this is with this voting bill. republicans are trying to rig the system so that they can hang on to power, and they're doing it based on the foundation of the big lie that donald trump actually really won the last election that everybody knows that he lost. and it wasn't even close. but because greg abbott and other republicans are so intimidated by the trump base of the republican party and they're really indistinguishable now,
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the trump base is the republican party, they are moving forward with these anti-voter bills and democrats are going to fight them every step of the way and we're going to do all we can to protect the voting rights of all texans. >> i mean, given all that, though, they do have the votes to pass what they want in this bill. you can walk out again, i assume. but they have the votes. >> well, you're absolutely right about that. which is why we need congress to pass hr-1, the for the people act, and hr-4, the john lewis voting rights act, to safeguard voters in texas and across the country against these republican efforts to make it more difficult for people to vote and their efforts to rig the system. and it is just imperative that the u.s. senate do whatever it has to do to pass those bills so that we can protect the voting rights of all americans, in texas and all across the
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country. >> yeah, we just talked to senator bernie sanders about that. obviously, they don't have the votes in the senate without changing the filibuster. the new voting bill put forward by texas house republicans, it's obviously got a lot in it that democrats criticize. it doesn't, however -- it no longer has this limitation on sunday voting. the previous bill had limited voting hours until after 1:00 in the afternoon, which would affect churches doing early morning voting drives, which often favored democrats. they claimed it was just a typographical error, that they always meant to have it be 11:00 a.m., not 1:00 p.m. but the fact is this is not -- which clearly seems ridiculous. but it's not in this new bill. so what's bad about this bill now? >> sure. well, and those two particularly onerous provisions are out of the bill, and i credit all the democratic members of the legislature who fought so hard to kill that bill, that those provisions are now gone.
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republicans have run away from those and don't want to claim any credit for ever having authored them in the first place but obviously they were their ideas. but this new bill, while it does not include those provisions, is still a terrible bill. it makes it more difficult to vote by mail in texas. it empowers partisan poll watchers who republicans have used to intimidate voters and in some cases election officials in predominantly minority neighborhoods in texas. and fundamentally, the bill is based on a lie. on the first page of the bill it alludes to the fact that the legislature finds that people don't have confidence in elections and we need to pass this bill so they have confidence in elections. well, if people -- to the extent people don't have confidence in elections, it's because republican leaders like donald trump and greg abbott and others tell them they shouldn't have confidence. if republican leaders were to start telling the truth about
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our elections to their supporters, there wouldn't be a lack of public confidence in elections. >> yeah. it's an endless circle, that argument. chairman chris turner, i really appreciate it. thanks very much. up next, a federal judge handed down a prison sentence today for michael avenatti, the california lawyer who rose to fame representing stormy daniels. details on that when we return. , my great-grandfather, great-great-grandfather was that kind of person. he looked after his community. she built an empire. he protected this nation. they lived their lives in extraordinary ways. with ancestry, i learned the story of peter vaughters... william lacy... madam c.j.walker. they are the heroes in my family. who are the heroes in yours?
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federal prison today for attempting to extort nike for millions of dollars. when details emerged of daniels' alleged relationship with the former president, avenatti almost instantly became a regular presence on both network and cable television news shows, including this one. but he was convicted back in february for threatening to publicly accuse the sportswear company nike of elicit payments to amateur athletes unless nike paid him first. for his part avenatti went openly in the courtroom, at one point saying he'd betrayed his friends, family and himself. the federal judge who handed down the sentence said, "mr. avenatti had become drunk on the power of his platform or what he perceived his platform to be." the news continues right now. i want to hand it over to chris for "cuomo prime time." chris? >> all right. thanks, coop. i am chris cuomo and welcome to "primetime." if you're on the left or on the right keep your eyes on texas. it's america's largest red state and republicans there are showing the 2022 playbook prp and it's not new. fraud and fright. for you on the right, do you like it?
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