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desp sportswear company, nike, unless nike paid him first. for his part, avenatti wept openly in the courtroom. at one point saying he betrayed his friends, family, and himself. the judge said mr. avenatti had become drunk on the power of his platform or what he perceived his platform to be. the news continues right now. i want to hand it over to chris for "cuomo prime time." i am chris cuomo and well c welcome to prime time. keep your eyes on texas. republicans there are showing the 2022 playbook and it's not new. fraud and fright. for you, on the right, do you like it? for you, on the left, can you counter it? contrived-culture wars with a side dish of election-fraud farce. democrats better be watching. the trumper governor there, greg abbott, called a special session today to push this agenda. and it is very campaignish. a revised voter-restriction
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bill. it's revised because, if you'll remember, state democrats blocked the gop's initial attempt. remember, they staged a walkout? said we're not going to be part of this attempt to suppress the vote. it happened back in may. just a few minutes before a house deadline. but it was kind of the only bullet they had, to stop it. they don't have the votes. will another walkout work? or is it just delaying the inevitable? the real question, though, is why the governor is now saying, now, that he must fix something that he admitted, in the past, was not broken. listen. >> right now, i don't know how many, or if any, elections in the state of texas in 2020 were altered because of voter fraud. >> so, he didn't know. he suggested there may be none. no proof to bolster any sense that there was fraud, ever, came thereafter. nor, does he offer any. yet now, there is something he must fix.
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it is the game. but again, the democrat walkout may not work, completely, but it did soften the suck that they now face and here's how. the revised bill excludes a couple of provisions. one. they were going to ban sunday voting known as souls to polls. and they were gonna lower the threshold for overturning an election. now, both were obvious-power grabs and one was, specifically, targeting minorities. speaking of power, listen to what is not on the agenda. the power-grid problems. remember, the woes back in the wintertime? they said, oh, the grid's built for summer. and now, not doing too great in texas with the grid. the governor said it was built to handle it. they have problems. why not deal with the tough things? that's what this is all about. distraction. kul chr culture wars. it's always worked. the new one? critical-race theory, crt. buckle up. you are going to hear a lot
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about this and you should proelk proenl get curious about what it really is. it is a theory for understanding how racism has mixed with law, over time, to create systemic inequality. that's what it is. okay? what it's being used for? a weapon. forcing socialism. teaching all-white kids they are bad. these moves are, obviously, political. but will they be effective? let's turn to a texas lawmaker, who has a say in all of this. state representative, trey martinez fisher was one of the leaders of the democratic walkout in may, that likely got republicans to modify their voter-restriction legislation. it's good to have you, sir. >> thank you, chris. >> you know, i see a lot of people asking you lawmakers on the democrat' side in texas, will you do it again? will you do it again? you know, it's just delaying the inevitable. the question is what is the real move here? what is your warning on coming on a national show to tell people about what texas might mean for the rest of the
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country? >> the message is very clear. america. we need to wake up. we need to preserve our democracy. we need a federal voting-rights solution and we need it, now. chris, this is a now-or-never moment. we're holding the lawn in texas and we are going to fight with all our might. but even if we were to fix this problem in texas, it doesn't solve the problem for the rest of the nation. we need a national standard and we are deadlocked in the u.s. senate. it is time for everyone to up their game. we were in the fourth quarter. every man and woman in america, this is the time to speak up. >> have you seen, with the passage of time and trying to make the case to colleagues, that it has changed the inclinations of any on the right in your state in terms of the lawmakers? >> well, i will tell you what. you hit it on the head. the problem we have here in texas, people are actually voting. we had a 66% turnout in the 2020 election. and president trump -- former-president trump won by five and a half points. we're not as red as people think. we are becoming purple. and so, the only way you can
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stop that momentum is to change the game just like you said. let's -- let's -- let's make the hurdles higher. let's put more tripwire on the ground. let's make it a crime to vote in texas and that's the only way these folks can hold onto power. so when it comes to survival of the fittest, they're not willing to be pragmatic or bipartisan. >> do you think that ignoring the power-grid problems, which are a concern for a lot of people in your state. and instead, focusing on the culture war of critical-race theory. do you think that's going to work? >> so, yeah, they call this a special session, right? there is nothing special about this session. this is what we call the suppression session. because we are not dealing with the real problems. we need to fix our grid, just like you mentioned. we have federal dollars sitting in our treasury that we haven't given to our schools. we haven't given to our small communities that don't get direct-federal assistance from the federal government. and we donow have a delta varia exploding in the state of texas and we are not prepared for that. that's what we need to be working on and i that i say' wi think that's what actually gets
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voters ticked off. republicans are going to focus on red-meat issues that go absolutely nowhere but they are just trying to hold onto that little power that they have and it's slowly slipping out of their fingers. >> now, when you say that, what is the feedback that you are getting in your -- you know, your area, your community, your constituency, that makes you think that this won't work? because, at least on the media side, this critical-race theory's getting a lot of traction in texas. and it does play into white fright. >> it -- it certainly does, right? but again, these are these dog-whistle politics. you know, we can't just, you know, fall for this, what i call, a jedi-mind trick here. we need to keep our eye on what really matters. listen when i shop at my grocery store here in my community, no one ever tells me, trey, we're not being mean enough to immigrants. or hey, trey, by the way, we're not making it hard enough for women to have healthcare choices. you know, go back up to austin and do that. folks are concerned about these kitchen-table issues. having an energy system that actually works. making sure that we have an air
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conditioner in the summer and a heater in the winter. making sure folks are prepared for a pandemic. folks have a job. folks have a place to go if they want to go to college, they can forward it. we are not focusing on those issues and i think voters can see right through it. >> well, this is a laboratory, what is happening in your state. this is what is going to be what the midterms are about, writ large. so we will be watching to see how it goes, who benefits, and why. trey martinez fisher, thank you, and good luck. >> thank you, sir. all right. so, if republicans were serious about election integrity, they would follow what arizona's secretary of state is calling for. a criminal investigation, in the face of mounting evidence that trump allies pressured maricopa county election officials for months to announce voting irregularities in the 2020 election. wouldn't that be, by definition, fraud? recall, what clint hickman, the guy at the center of this, said on this show. >> i told people, that were close to the trump campaign,
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with all this litigation that was going on. i said, just, hey, just do me a favor. i can't talk to anyone, while this is being litigated. and um, it -- and that stayed true, all the way up till that -- that new year's weekend. i got a phone call from the white house switchboard. >> arizona's secretary, katie hobbs, joins us right now. secretary of state, thank you very much. any indication that the republicans in your state want to move away from the fraud farce, and deal with any actual fraud that involved anything to do with trump? >> well, we could only hope. but right now, it seems like they are just continuing to lead by conspiracy theory. those who know that this fraud is a farce aren't willing to speak up about it. and certainly, no indication that the state's top law enforcement officer is going to act on our request to
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investigate. and in fact, he didn't even need a request from my office. um, he should have just acted, on the reports, alone. every layperson can look at this, and say this -- this really does look like an attempt to interfere. and should be -- warrant further investigation. >> unless the man who was on this show was lying, it happened. but do you agree that, as it stands right now, it is highly unlikely anyone will be held to account for strong arming state officials into putting out what they wanted which was the fraud farce? >> well, to my knowledge, there is an investigation right now on the -- the same tactics that were used in georgia. and so hopefully, now that we have this actual evidence that's come forth, this will -- it will result in at least in an investigation here that can lead to these folks being held accountable. >> here's what you are up against. the gop chair kelli ward put up her tweet. she was suggesting that election
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officials should go to jail, because their pushback against the fraudit. you know, you blocked access. you withheld or deleted information. said they did not possess the passwords to the computers. did any of that happen? >> they are just making this stuff up. i mean, honestly, right now, anything you see coming out of these people's mouths, you can just assume they made it up. to just continue to pile on because they're -- that's their goal is to -- is to continue to sow doubt, to undermine the integrity of our election. and they are just making it up. >> secretary of state, thank you for making your case to the audience. thank you for letting us know what's happening. >> thank you. >> all right. we got to spend some time on this crt. critical-race theory. why? because it's going to be abused, a lot. so let's look at it from the teacher angle. my next guest says that teachers in america are being bullied from teaching students accurate
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history about race. it's not just about talking too much about race. it's that, she believes, this is about really suppressing any talk about it. she leads one of the largest teachers' unions in this country. and she's getting ready for a major-legal fight. let's get after it. next. ♪ you bring your best. we'll block the threats. cyberprotection for every one. malwarebytes ♪
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it spreads socialism. it's just telling white kids that everything you do is, somehow, given to you and you're worthless. and that you have to be to blame for all the bad things. it's none of those things. don't fall for what you're being told. do the homework. okay? it isn't about an intellectual theory. that's not their fight. their fight is about a power theory. okay? now, what critical-race theory is really about is just choosing which stories matter, in the teaching of the history of america. former-secretary of state, mike pompeo, gave up the goods on what this is really about for the trumpers. he tweeted, if we teach that the founding of the united states of america was, somehow, flawed, it was corrupt, it was racist. that's really dangerous. it strikes at the very foundations of our country. this guy is supposed to be a genius. he was at the top of his class at west point. you can teach that america, her birth, her independence, her fight, her foundation, was part
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of the most notable and exceptional experiment in democracy, on the face of this planet. comma, and, there have been problems. all along. and racism is a primary one. both of those things can be said. both are true. and he knows it. this is fake outrage. but it's having real impact on school districts across the country. and it may have a chilling effect on what our kids get to learn about who we are, and how we got here and why things are not perfect here. and why we are trying to promote a more-perfect union. parents, against parents. student, against student. teachers, in danger of getting punished for what they teach in their classrooms. states all across the country are taking up bills to ban critical-race theory. what does this mean? let's discuss with the president of the american federation of
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teachers, randy winegarden. good to see you, randy. >> good to be with you, chris. >> let's deal with the argument and then we'll go to the remedy. the argument. you are teaching about the oppression of black people in this country but you are using it as a cudgel. mike pompeo is saying you want to say that this country basically stinks, and blame white people. and this is the left's effort to make a minority into a majority. because you want them all to vote for guy s, so you can stay in power. >> you know, i -- i mean -- >> that's what you're hearing. i mean, and you are going to hear it more and more so what's the answer? >> right. so the answer is it's completely not true. i mean, i am a high school social studies teacher. it's hard to, actually, fight against something that's completely not true. because then, you're assuming something in evidence that's not true. so let me go through what is true, which is that for the
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last, i don't know, as long as i have been teaching, we teach history in a way where you take salient pieces of american history. and you look at them, and you examine them to have your kids be able to know the facts. and to think through what that means. so, when it comes to issues of american history, we teach about the founding. and how great it was to, actually, break from great britain and have a democracy. and how important the constitution was, one of the first constitutional democracies. but it wasn't a multiethnic democracy. the -- the founders, basically, were very focused on making sure that white men, of certain ways, had a vote. but this is what's great about america, and what we teach in history.
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that the arc of the moral universe has, actually, bent towards justice. and that, whereas the founders actually were slaveholders, we went through a civil war. we went through the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendment. we've just got to celebrating juneteenth. and so, you see that, through the struggle of america, we create more opportunity, more freedom. what i don't get is that that's a great story for fox tv. that's a great story for all americans. and what's happening, now, is that in this push to try to erase, um, what has happened in our history. it is chilling teachers from teaching the fact that we did have slavery. it was uncomfortable. we need to get through it. we need kids to be able to critically think about it, and to engage and understand it.
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and get better, as a result of it. it is the american experiment, that we are trying to teach as schoolteachers. both, the good and the ugly, but the change that we've seen, including having our first african-american president and our first african-american vice president. >> so, you see these bills. five states, arkansas, tennessee, texas, bans on critical-race theory. um, related topics, as well. now, that's the dangerous part because critical-race theory, as is, is not really taught at the primary, secondary level. but if you have a dozen other states pushing for similar legislation, what is your fear these laws, what they will do, and what is your remedy? >> okay. so, number one, the fear is take what's happening -- so, number one. it's, like, a modern-day scopes trial. it's like the modern-day version of stopping us from teaching
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biology and evolution. what it's -- what the fear is, is that teachers will be so bullied and so disparaged. we've seen that, already, and threatened. that they'll stop teaching about the civil war. the 13th, 14th, 15th amendment, anything to do with the -- you know, the issues around race, discrimination, bigotry, and thin things like that. and that will be terrible for kid kids to not understand history and how we actually move to be a more perfect union. >> what's the remedy? >> the remedy is that, number one, as a union, we have a legal-defense fund that we have now put some more money in. and we're going to fight to defend every one of our members who teach honest history. but the other remedy is this. we're going to the courts. like, take the texas law. it basically says -- i don't have the exact language -- but it basically says that you can
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only teach -- teach slavery, as if it was a deviation from the founders. now, that's completely the opposite of our professional responsibility and our standards that says we have to teach honest history. so, in texas, we're going to go to the courts and say, well, can we? or can't we teach the civil war? can we, or can't we teach the dredscott decision, juneteenth, the national holiday. so we are going to do those things but the the other thing we are doing, chris, is we're actually explaining to parents what we're really doing. and really, truly, we want to get kids back into school, in august and september. in a welcoming and safe environment. where we really start, actually, bringing community back together because i think that's the real issue here. people have gone through such terrible -- because of covid that -- that -- that there is a sense of -- of chaos and
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consternation that these culture warriors are seizing on. and what we need to do is bring people back together, our community, our education community, and do it in a welcoming and safe environment where all kids can thrive. >> well, i look forward to the kids being back in school, in person. that is for sure. randi weingarten, thank you for coming on to make the case. >> a brand new update out of haiti. as you know, its president was assassinated. we have dramatic, new video. take a look. what is it? it's a gun fight between police and suspects. that's what we're being told the tape is. two arrests in the manhunt are american. does that mean that there was american involvement, beyond their citizen help? we are going to have a former
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haitian police and 15 of the suspects. it was posted to social media today. cnn has not confirmed its authenticity. but the point stands. haitian officials say that they have arrested eight suspects, including two haitian-americans and six colombians. seven other suspects were killed. in the meantime, what does this mean? joining us now, richard clark, who served as the white house point man on haiti. um, the fact that two have american citizenship. does that mean, to you, in any way, that there was u.s. involvement in any attack on moise? >> no, chris, it doesn't. but it suggests to me, based on the reporting we have so far, is that colombians, a large number of colombian citizens and, perhaps, two haitian-americans, were involved in this. that suggests a drug gang. it suggests mercenaries hired by, perhaps, one of the
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colombian cartels because the president, probably, wasn't cooperating. haiti has always been a transit point for drugs, from colombia, moving into the united states. and it's a small market for drugs from colombia, as well. so, this looks like -- um -- a spillover of a colombian-drug war. >> big move for a drug dealer or a cartel, even, to go after a president. but then again, it is haiti. it's not like you are worrying about the state coming after you. what does this mean about the likelihood that america's going to have to have a heavier footprint there because there'll be chaos to come? >> well, i don't think so. i mean, the u.n. was there last with its troops. and tried to establish security. we tried to establish security, before that. it's a very difficult country to govern. i have been in every corner of it. i've been there over a dozen times. it's a country that just doesn't allow itself to be governed very well.
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there's no tradition of policing. we spent a lot of time trying to build haitian police force and lasted about two or three years before it, too, fell into corruption. so, no, i don't think the united states is going to back in. but it does show us, chris, that the reason that we, as americans, have an interest in preventing countries from falling into failed-state status is that the spillover affects us. in this case, that haiti is more or less a failed state means that drugs can flow, from it, into the u.s. more easily. >> speaking of failed states, and what it means for us. afghanistan. you don't have to be richard clark to know that, when america leaves, the taliban will move right back in. they're going to have a war there. but it's going to be pretty quick. and they use the stick and the carrot. and we're going to start to hear ugly things there, about what's happening to women. what's happening to ethnic minorities. what's happening to non-muslim extremists. and what does that mean for the united states? short and long?
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>> you know what, chris, that's probably right. the president said, today, the afghan forces have 300,000 troops. and the taliban only have 75,000. i think those numbers are off, a little. but it's not a foregone conclusion that kabul will fall or it will fall, immediately. but your chances are, you're right. and we will probably see terrible things happen. and the rights of women will, probably, be cut back, enormously. >> here's -- let me just play, for context. let's play what he said, and then i will have you comment on it. here's the president. >> no, i do not trust the taliban. it's a silly question. do i trust the taliban? no. but i trust the capacity of the afghan military, who is better trained, better equipped, and more re -- more competent, in terms of conducting war. >> since when? who is the afghan military ever taken on and won?
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>> well, no one. and they really don't have 300,000 people. but the point he made that i -- that resonated most with me is he said we did not go in to do nation building. >> uh-huh. >> i remember the decision. i was in the room on the night of 9/11 when we made the decision to go into afghanistan. it was to get bin laden. to clean out the terrorist-training camps. to prevent afghanistan from being a sanctuary for al qaeda and other terrorist groups. well, it's not, anymore. and we don't have to be there, in the country, with u.s. troops, all the time, to prevent it from being a sanctuary. we can operate remotely from over the horizon. and the military plans to do just that. i don't think we can say to an american mother or a father, you have lost your kid in afghanistan, in 2021. and -- and look 'em in the eye and say to them, honestly, and your son was there fighting for the freedom of americans. that's just not the case,
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anymore. and i couldn't say, to a parent, and i know joe biden couldn't say to a parent, your son or daughter died in afghanistan. and they were there fighting to keep us safe. that's not true, anymore. >> i don't think it's been true, for quite a number of years, now. the question is will it become true, again? we'll see. we'll see. and richard clark, i will call on you to help us understand whatever happens, going forward. thank you, sir. all right. the war at home, as tough as any terrorist. covid. 24 states are now going in the wrong direction, again. look. this isn't a surprise. you knew the variants were going to be here. you knew that places where there hadn't been vaccinations were going to be harder hit. there is news, tonight, from the government on booster shots. that's not new, either. be honest. they've been talking that, maybe, you would need a booster shot for a long time, even if fully vaccinated. it's the only way it makes
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okay. so, why is everybody talking booster, booster, booster, booster? pfizer. pfizer put out a statement saying it's ramping up efforts to develop booster shots. why? data from this real. that immunity is waning from initial doses. however, the cdc just put out this statement. americans who have been fully vaccinated do not need a booster shot, at this time. fda, cdc, and nih are engaged in a science-based rigorous process to consider whether or when a booster might be necessary. here's something that you have not heard, and you need to hear and needs to be said. okay? if you guys are all getting together, why not do this?
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push the fda to commit to the process, to get the vaccine approved. instead of jumping ahead to booster, get past eua because there are many people in this country, especially where their kids are involved, who won't take the vaccine because it is not approved. why isn't it, yet, if it's so safe and all the data is so good? legit question. now, when it comes to the booster, let's talk about what is noise and what is news. dr. william schaffner. it's been a minute, doc. you look well. how you doing? >> i'm doing fine, chris. glad to help. >> booster, booster, booster. the vaccine doesn't work. you see, now, we need more. calm me down. >> um, the answer is that our vaccines, still, are very, very effective in keeping us out of the hospital. in averting severe disease. that's what they were designed to do. now, it's a bonus if they can,
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also, prevent what we call infection. you could get infected, have mild symptoms, or no symptoms at all. they diminish that possibility, greatly. but they can't turn it off, completely. and that's what the israelis are talking about and pfizer has echoed. but as long as these vaccines keep us out of the hospital, then we don't need a booster. and at the moment, they, also, cover all the variants, including that delta variant th that's rushing through the unvaccinated in this country, today. so we're on solid ground, at the moment. i'm so glad the pfizer people have done the research. ready to have a booster on the shelf, if we need it. but we don't need it, yet. >> let's look at the data about how the -- you know, this idea of waning immunity, versus what we are seeing about the strength of the vaccination, in the first place. put up the bar graph, please. the number of people fully vaccinated by covid-19 vaccine
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type. pfizer, 83.9 million. moderna, 61.7. j&j, the single shot, 12.5. isn't that enough people, and enough time for them to be able to make the case that this should be authorized and approved, and not just for emergency use? >> you are talking about licensure. that's exactly correct. a lot of us are, frankly, a bit impatient that the fda hasn't, yet, worked its way through all of the elaborate, important evaluations, in order to license this vaccine. this vaccine has been used in more people. and we know more about its effectiveness and safety than any, other vaccine that we've ever licensed. hurry up, already. >> right. so when's going on? because, look, i'm sure you hear it all the time. being a white coat. that, listen, if it's so easy and so good, why isn't it approved, yet?
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and i'm not giving it to my kids before it's approved. and state officials, local officials, even private entities, saying look, i don't think that we can demand that people take it when it's not even approved, yet. this would be a big piece in the puzzle, would it not? >> oh, it certainly would. it would put at ease many, many people. and would make it so much easier for us to speak to so many folks. and get people who are, still, anxious and not quite convinced over the line. and we could get them vaccinated. it would be a great help. and i would urge my friends at the fda. i have no insights into the process. i would say, how about a few all-nighters and long weekends? let's get a move-on, please. >> because who is going to believe the fda about not needing a booster when they can't even say this thing is approved, yet? look, not many people are saying this. it's not that politically popular but who cares? i hear it from too many people. they should get it done. biden says he is going to do what he can. that's what he can do. let me ask you something else,
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as i let you go. are those cds over your right shoulder in that rack? >> they are. yes. >> any bee gees in there? >> i have all kinds of stuff but i don't think i have beegees. >> what? i am -- dr. -- >> i have a lot of country music. here in nashville. >> of course, you do. you're down in nashville and you're a man's man. all right, doctor, be well. always a pleasure. >> my pleasure. >> he is actually much more than just a man's man. he is a man of science, he is a man of letters, he is a man in full. all right. the gift that keeps giving. that's what my next guest is about. a real american. we must remind ourselves we are more than a noise. we are more than the haters. this man is a gift, who keeps giving gifts to others in need by doing what he can. ordinary, creating the extraordinary. an american to remember, next. if you have this... consider adding this. an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan
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what can i do to help? i'm ordinary. you do what you can. and tonight's american is proof of just that. he's using what he is good at, to do good for others in need. i want you to meet elliot, my man, middleton. former-car mechanic, although once you're a mechanic, you are always a mechanic. but he did change professions. and now, is a restaurant owner
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in south carolina. but here is the true soul food on his menu. on his days off, he takes in junk cars, in return for some of his specialty bbq ribs, all right. love ribs. i will be talking to him about that. now, what does he do? he takes the car, fixes it up, and then gives it away. 33 cars, nine months. first of all, great but think about what that means for people. for work, for family. elliott joins us now. god bless, brother. thank you for what you're doing. tell us why you started. >> yes, sir. pretty much in 2019 it was a food drive that me and the mayor of andrews we conducted. andrews is a small town. we did the food drive. we had about 250 family boxes that we can provide for the area and once those boxes was gone, i did notice that there was a few people that wasn't able to get any.
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so i was walking out the door to try to tell them sorry we were out, and when i turned my head down the block, there were a lot of people still left. just distraught by the folks who couldn't receive the food. but even more distraught by the fact that some of them just turned around and started walking back. they didn't go to cars or anything. and i caught up with some of them and i was like, i'm sorry, i'm sorry, is there anything i can do? i'm sorry, are you walking back to a car? you need a hand? p and we had some elderly folks there. and they were like, no, i walked 3 miles to get to the food drive. and from that moment on i said i'm dealing with food and beverage now but i need to do something about this. and that's how it started. >> where did you get the idea that i'll trade you ribs for a wreck, and i'll fix it up and give it away? >> well, of course, with anything a good trade-off would be great versus it going to the salvage yard. i figured the ribs would be a good pitch to get folks to let me have their cars instead of
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going to the salvage yard and you get a dinner plate of ribs on me. so that started off, and it took off after that. >> and they're giving you cars that -- where you don't -- you can get them to a place where they're going to pass inspection and people will feel good at it. and how is it scaling up in terms of what you've seen with what these cars mean to people in their lives? >> what i've seen is just a turn of emotions, a turn of a lifestyle. they're able to do different jobs, go and seek jobs. all of this is really pretty much going on during of course the worldwide covid outbreak. when all of this happened, folks were losing jobs. they needed to be able to pay their bills and they couldn't. folks were losing their cars and homes and all that stuff. so i've seen a whole lot from the cars that were donated up until this date as far as how it changed lives and just made people a little bit more
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comfortable, made them be able to go out and search for jobs and reliable transportation for grocery shopping and medicines and hospital bills. hospital visits. >> i know it's ramping up. word is spreading and people want to help you and get you cars but you can't do it all by yourself. especially when you're running a business. and you want to be able to help more people. so there's a gofundme page, right? where can people find it and what is your hope? >> yes, sir. my gofundme page is -- it's a -- you can go on facebook and it's under middleton's village to village foundation. that's the main page that we operate off of. this is all something that's just getting pumped up as far as the page is concerned. you can go there and find the mailing address and also just folks pitching in now. like we have car carriers, we have different folks that are asking how can they help, what can they do?
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it was just me and one other friend who pretty much towed those cars, repaired the cars and got them to the family. that's the way it was for pretty much the last nine months. but we're starting to get more people involved. we're starting -- people who just want to help. that's something that i didn't think was going to be on the broad span it is now. but my logo and my pitch on my foundation is middleton's village to village. >> middleton's village to village. middleton's village to village. middleton's village to village. middleton is m mm mid m-i-d-d-l-e-t-o-n. you have right now a goal of getting to 50 grand. you're going to get to 50. i'm going to tweet it out. you're going to have to pick a new goal because you're going to have more people to help. real quick, what's the secret? what's the difference between a good rib and a great rib?
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>> i tell you what, a good rib and a great rib, that's a tough question. because sometimes i sit there and i want my customers to experience it. sometimes they go off the wall, these are the best ribs i've ever had. other times it's more like, let me try another piece. and once they try the other piece it's like this is awesome. the fried ribs is awesome. they just love picking choices and coming in and experiencing a good time at my restaurant. yes, sir. >> i love it. i'm going to talk to you in the break. i've got to see how i can get some flown up right away. elliot middleton, thank you. i'm glad you're doing well and i'm impressed that you're doing good for people. god bless and thank you. >> thank you, sir. >> we'll be right back.
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thank you for watching and giving us the opportunity. it is now time for "don lemon tonight" with the upgrade, laura coates. >> chris cuomo, how are you doing tonight? >> better than i deserve. and you? >> well, i deserve to be -- i'll take the opposite. i feel pretty good. but i'll take your high road, better than i deserve. that sounds much --
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>> no, no. you deserve everything. you're not me. you deserve good things. >> i don't believe that. we're all doing the best we can especially on a night like tonight. >> what's leading the show for you? what's got you burning? >> voting rights. it should be burning everyone. the idea that we're in a democracy in 2021 and it's still up for debate, whether it should happen, whether it can be happening. it's unbelievable to think that i'm still and everyone is still talking about voting rights because they're still seeming to be on the chopping block. i don't understand why. >> sure you do. because they want more of theirs and less of others to vote. this is about winning. and it doesn't matter if it winds up creating racial strife. it doesn't matter if it takes us back culturally. it's about winning. >> i keep thinking about sisyphus, you know that story where they rolled up the boulder -- >> sisyphus. rolls it up, comes right back down. >> i keep putting that together with dr. king and his mountaintop sermon, about the idea of having seen it

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