thank you for watching. thank you for giving us the opportunity. d lemon on "don lemon tonight." miss me? so much. i have nothing but great memories whenever we spend time together. [ laughter ] >> so i know that you missed me during the handoff. laura is great -- >> there is only one handoff. laura, i love you. she's an up dgrade from me, absolutely. you didn't see me on tv but we

did get to spend time together. this is us at lunch on saturday. do you see that? all the guys on one side of the table and all the women on the other. this is us. and my adopted family. these are most of the chris' friends that have become my friends. really great people otherwise they would not be in my life and my pe fiancee and my dog. i enjoyed seeing you on my vacation and i love this picture, there is my mom. she would be like hey, where are we? at the same restaurant on two different days. we happened to go to the same restaurant. our favorite. should i tell people where it is? in green port. >> not like we get a break on the bill. i guarantee you, it ain't free. we pay for everything we get in that place. >> it's true. the reason i have it in this order because we had been talking about what is happening with delta variant and vaccine and with covid and a big part of my family discussion whether

they should come here or not and worried and blah, blah, blah. the interesting thing is the conver sations i had, chris regarding vaccines. you and i are on television every single night. it doesn't mean our families will do what we say. they're independent people. my mom sister, my nieces, they were -- now that they're not anti-vaxxers by any means, it's not politically motivated but they were -- the urgency to get a vaccine wasn't there for them. they didn't get it early on and they were also saying i don't know about the kids and what have you but it was interesting to hear their conversations regarding the vaccine, whether or not it was too quick. they were worried about what would happen if they got it and if they would have side effects but there was just -- they were living everyday life like hey, i'll get it. i'm still wearing a mask and what have you but they are also in a very red state. i don't know if that had

anything to do with it, the messaging. who knows. it was interesting hearing them after not seeing them for two years. >> i don't blame them. one, we confiormed a community and what is happening around us will affect how we heal about us. also, i blame the biden administration. i had tony fauci on tonight. they are not making the case to people like your cousins and nieces well enough. and they are not talking the approval talk. 49% of people who haven't had the vaccine say it being fda approved would help them. fauci says it's just crossing the ts and dotting the is. it going to happen. it hasn't. they don't talk about it. biden doesn't talk about it. they don't have the fda person talking about the process, when it's going to happen and why to reassure them and i think they are losing the messaging game and it's a mistake. >> yeah. well, there is a lot to discuss on all of this and again, i think that we can -- we need to

continue to do our parts, but there is, you know, something going on in the country. this is not like cpac with the people saying i'm going to do this and the biden and all this. it's not. there is, not everyone has the urgency. >> 49% say if it was fda approved, they would take it. let me tell you where that kicks in. kids. let me tell you who is thinking twice about giving it to your kids. me. i was going to take it no matter what. why? i don't have the same risk profile than my kids. the 18-year-old got the vaccine. the 15-year-old, we'll do it if that's what they want in school. fine. i'll be talking to the doctors in my life and what we know for kids and the risk and what aren't. i know tony fauci. >> good and talks and

discussions that we had and catching up. it was amazing to be with family. there is nothing like being with your family. >> reminds you why you are how you are and they let you know exactly who you are to them. >> why haven't i seen chris? >> i always love to see your mother. she's a good lady. i hope you're different when it comes to the wallet on that lunch than the other lunch. >> trust me, my wallet is hurting right now. >> let me ask you something and i'll get out of here. waitress walks up with something and a clipboard and gives them something and walks away. that's what don lemon said. he says this happen, the woman walks away with my credit card and he says what was that? did he just? ah. come on. [ laughter ] >> see ya. >> i love you d. lemon. hey --

>> yeah? >> did you call me cheap -- >> never. >> get vaccinated people. that's all i got to say. despite the conversation we had we're talking real stuff but get vaccinated. i love you, too. this is "don lemon tonight." i'm happy to be back. i know you enjoyed laura. she's an upgrade from me. let's get to the discussion. so yes, people are having conversations about the vaccine in my own family as i said but we have a miracle in our hands right now, actually, it's in our arms. vaccines that are saving millions and millions of lives allowing us to get back to some semblance of normal. letting us hug our loved ones again. letting us get out into the world. letting me see people i haven't seen in two years, right? so you can thank siecience for that. science. science. i had a discussion with my family about science. i said how did you get here?

they said an airplane. i said that's sign. you believe in that, believe in the science. so there are people out there who want to talk advantage of people's questions, their he hesitation that are so determined to divide us they will spread every kind of misinformation and lie and put the lives of their own supporters at risk. and just the past week average covid cases are the case rates i should say were about three times higher in states that have fully vaccinated less than half their residents. that is a fact. so what you even say about this, what can you even say about this to your audience at this big conserv conservative jam cpac they fell short of vaccinating 7 0% of adults by july 6th. watch this. >> because clearly, they were hoping, the government was

hoping that they could sort of sucker 90% of the population into getting vaccinated and it isn't happening. right? there is a -- younger people -- >> cheering. cheering about not getting vaccinated. that's not cool. the vaccine is free. it's widely available and it can save your life and the lives of your loved ones. it's not about politics at all. it's not whether you're a republican or democrat, it's about life saving vaccines. >> the vaccine is extraordinarily effective in real world effectiveness. 99.5% of all the people who died from covid were unvaccinated. the vaccinations and the vaccine work spectacularly well. >> so people who are vaccinated aren't the ones in hospitals. okay? they're not the ones dying. if you're not vaccinated, you're right in the sights of this virus. and giving the more contagious

delta variant a chance to take hold. yet, over at the propaganda network right wing media, they're going full tilt with their misinformation campaign. senator dick disurban on the flr today. >> there are two hosts of programs on fox prime time that can be characterized as anti vax quakes. i'm referring to tucker charleston and laura. they are not doing america any favors and i hope that fox will come to its senses. >> it doesn't seem very likely, does it? rupert murdoch himself got vaccinated months ago and urged everyone else, too. yet his network stars are doing everything to scare people out of getting vaccinated. >> things like that tend to happen with a submilssive population allows the government to dictate what procedures and

medicines they get. >> someone comes up to your door outside wearing a mask, showing up at your house claiming to work for the government asking you personal medical questions. what could possibly go wrong th there? >> whatever. the right bears responsibility for all their misinformation and lies putting people's lives at risk. they bought into the lies of the former president even though he's not in power anymore, his party spawned a bunch of wannabes and mouthpieces like the ones on the propaganda network. they gave the former guy a platform on maria's show to lie again about the insurrection of the capitol and while giving interviews spreading lies about love on the air on one of the darkest days in this country's history, this is the reality of what happened. take a seat and watch. new videos tonight released by the justice department showing rioters violently attacking

police as some in the crowd appear to try to steal a riot shield and jab a flag pole at an officer. i want you to look closely because you'll see what appeared to be trump flags and a maga hat. we're not bleeping any of the cursing. so you're going to get the full context. context. >> get up! get up! >> go! >> and that, my dear viewer, that's the reality. but sadly, millions of people believe in the big lie. they believe the lie that the election was stolen. a lie. they believe the lie of bogus

voter fraud. another look at this. take a look at cnn's o'sullivan. he talked to some of them. >> what are you hoping to hear from trump? >> that he is going to regain his rightful seat as president. >> in 2024? >> no. >> when? >> as soon as the election is overturned for the election fraud. >> do you guys think the election was fair? >> no. >> no. >> no. >> they tried to tell us the tarrant county election we went blue for the first time since 1962. it's not called an insurrection to me. what about it was an insurrection? >> they stormed the capitol. >> who? who is they? >> the trump supporters, right? >> i'm sorry, bull [ bleep ]. you don't know who those people were. >> some trump supporters were invited in and there is video and audio that say come on. [ laughter ]

>> never mind what the indictments say, what prosecutors say. what's been happening in court. never mind any of that. never mind the facts i should say. those folks donnie talked to have been told lies over and over. they are adults. but lies they have been led to believe. again, they are adults. lies the gop and right wing media are still spreading. and while lawyers are falling all over themselves in a michigan courtroom to push the lawsuit to throw out the state's votes in the last election, a lawyer called an embarrassment to the legal profession, the big lie lives on in texas and that's where democrats fled the state tonight in a desperate effort to block the republican majority from passing a restrictive new voting law taylor made to push lies about non-existent wide

spread voter fraud. two planes landing in washington tonight carrying the majority of democrats fleeing texas. sources telling cnn they kept the plan a sec et bret because can be compelled legally to return to the state's capitol and believe law enforcement could be sent to track them down. now, they're reportedly hoping to meet with senate democrats while in washington. the texas governor greg abbott threatens to arrest them as soon as they come back to texas. the attorney general ken paxton who by the way himself is under a federal investigation abusing his office to help a political donor saying it's shameful and they have failed as elected officials. the vice president by the way, kamala harris praising them as leaders. >> i will say that they are leaders who are marching in the path that so many others before

did. they fought and many died for our right to vote. >> and here we are tonight. texas democrats fleeing their state in a last ditch effort to block a restrictive new voting law as the gop is pushing its assault on the most sacred right on americans, the right to vote. after 17 states passed nearly 30 laws to cut back on ballot access. all in support of the big lie of bogus voter fraud. so tonight, we got it all covered for you. we're going to have a lot more to come on this desperate fight by the texas lawmakers. i'll talk to one of them and sanjay gupta is here with everything you need to know about the vaccines, the delta variant and the boosters, that's coming up. >> the cdc and fda said based on the data we have now we don't need a booster. that doesn't mean that won't change and we might need, as a matter of fact, at some time to give boosters either across the

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so texas democrats arriving in washington d.c. tonight after fleeing their state to block a

restrictive voting bill but republican governor greg boabbo is keep threatening to call session after special session to force the vote. one of the lawmakers texas state representative jasmine crockett. thank you so much. appreciate you joining us. >> thanks for having me, don. >> so this is a very dramatic move. you're planning on staying at least in d.c. or out of the state until august 7th. is that going to stop what texas republicans are trying to do? >> staying out until august 7th at least stops it for now. the governor is right, he can continue to call special sessions. one thing that the governor is not telling everyone is that because he defunded the legislature, unless the supreme court rules in our favor, there will be no staff to do anything come september 1. so seemingly, the longest that we really have to hold out is until september 1. because you can't pass any bills without the people that actually

write the bills. we wouldn't have house administration. we wouldn't have our parliament. we couldn't do anything. this is an issue he created so it will be interesting to see him fix it up. >> uh-huh. okay. so, you know, again, we talked about him calling special session after special session. that's what he promised to do and also says you can be arrested for fleeing and held in the texas capitol until the job is done. what's your response to that? >> so -- he's so dramatic. it's interesting that he was actually on our supreme court as well as was our attorney general at some point. so let me tell y'all what the law is so everyone understands. so we have not committed a crime. and so under the u.s. constitution and the texas constitution, you can't arrest people that haven't committed a crime. so we've not committed a crime. what can happen is we can be

detained. so we can have someone come and get us, but that's so long as they have jurisdiction and i know that the governor may believe that he's president now but he's not and hopefully will never be the president of these united states but he does not have jurisdiction overall united states. he has jurisdiction over texas. so it's actually our sergeants in the house that it says in the rules that they can actually go after us. the law is still unclear as to whether or not the speaker can then go ahead and say hey, we're go going to deputize these officers and these officers can after them. even still, their jurisdiction wouldn't extend outside the state of texas, which we're outside the state of texas and prepared to stay outside the state of texas so nothing is going to happen. we are not going to be pulled back in. >> honestly, you really can't hide. they know where you are. >> exactly. we're in d.c.

>> i know, but if you're in d.c. or whatever, listen, there are ways to find out. all they have to do is call the airline and see where you went, right? unless you drive somewhere and they can figure that out. >> absolutely. yeah, no. >> to his point, though, this bill will be voted on at some point and you don't have the votes so are you -- >> no. >> are you delaying the inevitable here? you have until september but are you delaying the indefble? >> you know, i hope that's not what we're doing. i hope this is seen as a full-court press. the last time we were in d.c. we already killed a bill. we have a live bill sitting there. so i'm hoping that we can really impress upon those here in d.c. how important this is and how far we're willing to go because it's just that bad. the last time we were in d.c. it wasn't the entire delegation but we were able to move the needle a little bit with senator mansion. we didn't have an opportunity to sit down with senator cinema. i am hoping and praying that with all that we're going through, the fact that over 50

members had to leave their families, leave their children, leave their husbands for democracy because we have people that are trying to run the texas house in a way that is ter nickel, i hope they see and say man, if the republicans can go through all of this to do wrong, let us take our step to do what is right because we have the majorities here on the federal level. that is my hope and prayer and they can pass the dumb bill and do what always happens in texas. they always get told this was an intentionally discriminatory bill and therefore, we are striking portions of this bill. that is what is going to happen but it will only happen if we have federal oversight like we historically have had. >> okay. let talk about this bill and why you believe the democrats believe like the democrats are taking such drastic and dramatic action here. explain to me what this bill means for voting in texas.

what will happen if it does become law? >> yeah, you know, so some of things that we heard about, most people may not realize but heada hea harris county is a pretty large place and dallas county. we're growing so fast. in fact, the dfw area added over 160,000 people just in the midst of the beginning of the pandemic. we grew faster than any other urban area in the country. we are picking up two congressional l seats because we're growing so fast. so what the legislature is trying to do is say no, no, no in those urban centers we want to make sure they have long lines and they have to stand in line for four and five hours because that's where the black and brown people are. they don't want people to have open and easy access to the ballot box. when you saw chris hollands decide hey, we'll do drive-through voting. it no different than curb side.

we've had curb side voting for quite sometime now. and so this idea that we're going to take this away especially once we saw the statistics and saw that the majority of the people that use the drive-through voting were minorities. we heard testimony from first responders on saturday saying hey, you know, we were working 24-hour shifts fighting this pandemic doing everything we could but we still wanted to vote and it was so beneficial that we either had the ability to do drive-through voting or had the ability to actually vote 24 hours a day. instead of it just being kind of this small window. you know, texas is the biggest state or second biggest state. either way, we're too big, right? when you look at a place like east texas where i used to reside in texartexarkana, i nev would have asked for or tried to get, you know, mpolls to be ope 24 hours. it wasn't necessary. we didn't have the population. whether you look at a place like

harris county, it did what it was supposed to do. that was frightening to republicans. they see the power is dissipating and black and brown people are voting. the growth in the last ten years, 80% of it in the last decade has been because of people of color. that is what is scary in texas. >> and the bill sb 7, correct? >> the old bill was sb 7. >> sb 7. >> we've got hb 3 and sb 1. >> okay. well and sb 7 and these, some of the other ones would have made casting mail in ballots harder and ban drive-through centers. >> absolutely. >> end 24-voting tactics in hah haec -- harris county and effectively out lawed black churches souls to the polls, get out the vote push and more. that's what is at stake here and that's why democrats are doing what they're doing. listen, good luck.

[ laughter ] >> good luck. >> be optimistic, don. we can do this. >> it's not up to me. i'm just saying good luck. it a huge under taking for what you're doing. >> it is. >> and for the amount of time. thank you so much. appreciate it. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. the delta variant rapidly spreading across the u.s. especially in places with low vaccination rates. one expert warning a surprising amount of debt could soon follow. let's talk to dr. sanjay gupta about that, next. icy hot. ice works fast. heat makes it last. feel the power of contrast therapy, so you can rise from pain.

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well, covid cases up in the u.s. notably in areas with low vaccination rates and the delta variant is behind the spike and the cdc out with a stunning number. 99% of coronavirus deaths in june occurring among people unvaccinated. let's talk about that and more with cnn's chief medical c correspondent dr. sanjay gupta. people need to know if you are vaccinated, you're protected from serious illness or death. am i correct? >> yeah. no, that is what the initial trials showed, and now you got close to a billion people who have received vaccines around

the world, and the real world data reflects that. as you just mentioned, don, 99% ending up in the hospital are unvaccinated. that is quite a crucial statistic if you think about it. it's still out there making people sick but 99 times out of 100 if someone is sick enough to go to the hospital, it because they didn't received vaccine. >> what about breakthrough cases, a cluster here on the east coast. the town manager known as p town a popular beach destination is aware of positive covid cases and a number of them are breakthrough. should vaccinated people be concerned? >> no. this is a really important sort of an in this cnik d an in this this case dote. people that are vaccinated are far less likely to get sick, far less likely to get sick and have to go to the hospital.

that remains true. could you develop an infection? these are people that get tested because they have to and have no idea, they have no symptoms and surprised when it's positive. these are breakthrough infections and they do occur but again, they're not likely to get sick or at least very sick from this. what i think is crucial, don, and this is science meets the art. you're vaccinated. you live in a community that's primarily vaccinated but now it's vacation time and lots of people may becoming and you may be surrounded by increasing number of unvaccinated people. does that make you more likely to develop a breakthrough infection? yes. that's the thing. if there is more virus circulating, you're going to be more at risk. you're still well protected against getting sick but you may develop a positive test if the virus is circulating around you. >> okay. just how contagious is the delta variant? that is what people are wondering. can you help us understand that? ? yeah, if the original strain you and i were talking about last year at this time was a certain

amount transmissible, pretty chan transmissible. this is 60% more transmissible than that. this is close to double than what we were talking about this time last year but don, this screen that you're looking at right now, this is really important. if it's alpha ordeal to, falpha was the u.k. variant and india is the delta variant. look how protective these vaccines are. whether it's infection, whether it's symptoms or the bar graph on the right, far right is people getting sick enough to be hospitalized. 95, 96% protective against that. it is far more transmissible. don, someone said to me and it was an interesting way to put it. we think of america sort of as the vaccinated and unvaccinated. what it's going to become given how transmissible this is the vaccinated and the infected. this is unforgiving variant if you're not vaccinated and you're

out and about, you're likely to get infected at some point. that's become the reality here. >> okay. so you said it's like 50%, right, the transmission rate, 50% higher. what does that mean? everything you learned due to the spread standing six feet apart and standing outside and wearing masks. would that apply even with the delta variant that is more contagious, right? if i'm using the right terminology than the other? >> yeah. no, it's a really good question. i mean, i think if you're diligent about those measures especially outside and especially masks. one thing about the six feet apart is that we now know that this is likely to be aerosolized so if you're further than six feet apart inside, that may not offer you protection as much. like someone is smoking in your house in a bedroom far off in a different part of the house, you're likely to smell it at some point. think of the virus like that. yeah, masks, being outdoors,

those things still work and are definitely recommended for people that are unvaccinated but vaccination is so protective. i mean, you know, again, close to a billion people vaccinated around the world. we have the data to show just how effective it is. >> so i want to ask you about this -- about hearing tonight, we're hearing the ability of johnson & johnson, supposedly a warning, johnson & johnson's coronavirus vaccine might raise the risk of neurological complication. what is that risk and what is the complication? >> yeah, this is a situation calleded a system that's characr ri ized by an ascending per aralys. it can numbing in your feet and assents up your body. i've seen patients with this. they found a safety signal meaning out of 12.5 million people roughly that received the johnson & johnson vaccine, about 100 of them.

so about 10 in a million had this sort of problem. this guillain-barre sinynsyndro. it could be a few weeks before people improve. typically men. typically over the age of 50, which is you and i, i think both of us. but it is rare, don. and one thing i want to just give some context here is that the chance of developing guillain-barre after the flu would be higher than developing it after this johnson & johnson vaccine. i don't want to minimize it. there will be a warning label on that vaccine, and, you know, you have to take it in that full context, though. >> yeah, i'm glad. that was my next question about what can happen after getting the flu because you can get it not just from a side effect from a vaccine, correct? >> that's right. that's right. just the inflammatory response to an illness overall can do it.

>> i learned so much with you dr. gupta. not only here but you know where. i sent you a text. i loved you on jeopardy. i thought you were amazing. i really enjoyed it. >> thank you. >> and i learned from you. >> appreciate it. i love seeing those pictures of you with your family. >> my gosh, it was great. thanks for talking to my home and helping her get here. she's like can i come back for labor day? i haven't answered her yet. i'll think about that one. hi, mom. thank you. >> have her back. have her back. >> thank you, sanjay. appreciate it. let talk about cpac proving that what was once a fringe is now really the heart of the gop. where does our country go when baseless conspiracies are baked into a major political party? guess what and guess who? come on, you're on tv john kasich. we'll talk to him after this break.

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and over and over again at a conference of republican conservatives and many in at attendance trying to whitewash the violence on january 6th. i want to discuss with john kasich the former republican governor of ohio is here. i can't wait to get this to conversation. great to see you. right into it. the big lie took center stage at cpac. the fringe has taken hold of the gop. it's now -- look, it's the main stream. what does this mean for the country? >> well, it's not main stream. it's cpac, don. if you went down to cpac, i actually spoke at cpac years ago when it was like sane and this is extremists gathered with a guy coming in with red meat to fire them up. i talked to a friend in new hampshire today and said the party is shrinking and people know january 6th, republicans

know january 6th was a terrible, terrible blow to the united states of america. you have some people that just don't want to pay attention. they live in a silo and anything that doesn't agree with their point of view they reject and what happened at cpac in regard to the virus and trump's speeches was terrible and outrageous. terrible situation. don't say that everybody who is a republican is buying into this. >> it's not that everyone who is a republican. it the main stream in the republican party. i know that -- >> i don't think that's right. >> your assessment may be anecdotal by lawmakers, all but a few voted to, you know, not for the commission. they didn't -- >> yeah. >> they voted not to confirm the results of the election. i mean, you know. it's not just the fringe anymore. >> well, i would only say this, that politicians are not the definition of who is in the party. i mean, i've been very critical

of these folks and i will continue -- >> if the base wanted something else, wouldn't they change what their -- >> no. well, i mean, a lot of them are afraid. they just want to get reelection and power but if you're saying to me because of their actions in the united states house on january 6th, you know, in terms of that commission that therefore they represent the party. they don't represent me and a lot of republicans and remember, don, the party is shrinking. people are leaving the party in droves pause they don't approve of this. we have to see how this plays out. >> listen, they want power. obviously, you know that's no better, right? . >> yeah. >> it's actually worse. >> there is so much to talk about but i want to move on because we can talk about that all night. >> sure. >> we heard cheers over the country missing the vaccination goal. it really terrifying to think about the implications of that especially with a very contagious delta variant spreading.

i just spoke to dr. gupta about that. >> right. >> yeah. go ahead. what do you think? >> oh, i thought we were going to hear from somebody. >> we just heard from dr. gupta in the segment before you. >> don, it's disgraceful. what can i tell you? you got a bunch of extremists gathered in an event with other extremists coming to them and feeding them with a bunch of hogwash. i mean, it like, you know, it's the far right. it's the extreme part of the party, and they invite, you know, they didn't invite me to go and talk. they only invited people that would tell them what they want to hear. there is nothing unusual about that. that's what happens in politics. january 6th, everything else is disgraceful. what else can i do? i won't set myself on fire about this. i'm telling you it horrible and i believe over time this will change. >> look, okay. maybe you're right about that. but if you look at the polling

it doesn't really reflect what you're saying, john. it reflects that people are buying into the big lie into what trump said, into what they're hearing on, you know, the propaganda media and right wing media and you know there is no wide spread voter fraud. the election was not stolen. january 6 th was an insurrection. i think for most centrists and for most sane people in this country, they want what you're saying to be true. but it is not reflected in the polling. >> yeah. it depends what poll you look at. i don't want to debate polls. it's not a majority of republicans that want to think the election was stolen. you call somebody up and ask what they think and you tell them something. at the end of the day, don, something we have to keep in mind believe it or not, the democrats lost the seats in this last election. joe biden won because he was the

donald trump. let not get carried away. there are a number of democrat liberals warning people about the left ward drift of the democratic party on things like defunding police, soft on crime, just look at your guy that just is going to be the mayor of new york, thank god he's going to do on many things. so what i'm suggesting to you is, the democrat party has to be careful that they don't go out of the mainstream. this guy who writes for "mother jones" says the democratic party has moved farther to the left on social issues than the republican party has moved. >> you mean farther to the left than the republican party -- >> -- that doesn't absolve the republican party of this crazy stuff. >> you mean farther to the left than the republican party has moved to the right. >> yes. >> john, i don't know if that's true, because if you look at the people who were elected -- now,

hang on. >> i'm listening. >> -- that democrats have elected, it don't show you the far left was elected. it shows you that moderate democrats were elected. so perhaps the media and perhaps the extreme voices in the democratic party are the ones who are getting most of the attention. now, look, i'm neither a democratic nor a republican. but i don't see for the most part democrats who believe in defunding the police. joe biden has said he doesn't believe in defunding the police. it's not a tenet of the de democratic party. i think a lot of that is from right wing media or maybe just media in general not paying attention to what's happening with the democratic party. >> look, peggy noonan wrote a column, not a left winger, not a right winger. i'm not here to defend the party. what mr. drum, who writes for "mother jones," says the white

activist class won't like this but moving to the left risks outrunning the vast middle part of the country which progressive activists seem uninterested in talking to. >> but progressive activists, that's not the bulk of the dengu democratic party. >> don, that's whose calling the tune. >> stand by, hold on. i got it. but i want to hear what john has to say. this is a great conversation. go on, i'm sorry. >> what i'm saying to you, don, the middle of this country today, this whole woke culture, what's happening, the democrats are involved in some respects in devolution, not evolution. in public life, if you move too fast, too far, and people don't understand what you're doing, you lose. evolution is not an excuse for

doing nothing, on police reform, on the border, on any of these issues. i'm just saying the democrats have to be careful. republicans, cripes, i don't even know what they stand for. >> i think you're right, moving too far in any direction is not good. but here's the thing. there are always policy -- we had disagreements about policy. we have disagreements about what legislation should be enacted. we shouldn't have disagreements about what is reality and what is not, what is the truth and what is a lie. one is detrimental to the republic and the democracy. the other one is a debate that we have always had in politics. just remember that, okay? >> let me tell you this. i agree with that completely. and if you think about cpac, there were no cheers for anything they were for to solve a problem. all the cheers were for the negative stuff about our country, negative stuff, a lot of which they made up. it's disgraceful. i can't be any clearer about

that. but both parties have got to watch where they, are specifically the republican party of which i'm still a member, believe it or not. >> i'm in major trouble, i've gone on too long. >> but this is what we do, don lemon, we've been gone for a week, we had to do this. >> sorry in advance. see you later. schedule drop and go today. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪

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