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that closely. heartbreaking to hear what she's been going through. thanks for joining us. to our viewers, thanks for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in ""the situation room". erin burnett starts right now. "outfront" next, fighting back against lies and disinformation about the covid vaccines as the cdc predicts a spike in hospitalizations for the first time since april. plus, texas democrats that fled the state to stop a controversial voting rights law, one postponing her wedding so she can be in washington. she's "outfront". >> democrats taking a major step towards legalizing pot at the federal level. cory booker that introduced the draft bill is my guest.
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let's go "out dpfront"outfront." disinformation about covid vaccines, much coming from republican lawmakers and right wing media. sources telling cnn administration is taking on a new aggressive strategy as the cdc for the first time since late april is projecting covid hospital sanctions are expected to spike. now, in los angeles county, every covid patient hospitalized right now is unvaccinated. across the country, more than 99% of covid-19 deaths right now are among the up vaccinated. and yet, the number of people getting vaccinated has plunged. why? well, in large part it is because of messages like this. >> i'm not vaccinated, and until there is some science. >> i just made my own personal decision that i'm not getting vaccinated. >> i'm talking to doctors who since day one have been concerned about vaccines, people have had covid because you don't
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die because of covid but immune over reaction to covid. >> don't come knocking on my door with your fauci ouchie. leave us alone. >> going door to door to take vaccines to the people. they could go door to door and take your guns and bibles. >> okay. not just skepticism and fear mongering from lawmakers, of course. right wing media reaches millions of americans. >> the idea that you would force people to take medicine they don't want or need is this a precedent for that in our lifetime? >> it's the greatest scandal in our lifetime by far. a vaccination in a weird way is generally kind of going against nature. if there is some disease out there, maybe there is just an ebb and flow to life where something is supported to wipe out a certain amount of people. >> there is nothing more anti democratic and anti freedom than pushing an experimental drug on americans against their will.
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>> hello to door to door vaccine pushers. >> the fight to control you to lord over you, that's just begun. >> it's stunning. all of those people are smart enough to know what they're saying is complete bullshit and that's the problem. they should be ashamed. those lies are having an impact. listen to what we heard from trump supporters over the past few weeks. >> the vaccine goes into our child, she'll die. that's all there is to it. >> if your daughter takes the vaccine, we should die. >> not might. would. >> do you know people that got sick or died from the virus? >> i know three people that got it and died but i know people that got cancer and died, too. >> you know three people that died from coronavirus and you won't get the vaccine? >> no. like i said, i don't need the vaccine. >> sadly, the debate over the vaccine, which should be basic science so we can save lives mirrors 2020 election results in so many cases.
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look at vermont where biden won with 66% of the vote and 66% of the population is fully vaccinated and in tennessee 61% voted for trump and the percentage not vaccinated 62%. that could explain why tennessee is seeing a spike with cases. in fact, they have more than tripled from a month ago. it isn't easy. the white house is fighting a war over disinformation saying the single best thing they can do is get the vaccine which is true and confronting the reality of the vaccine causing confusion. the acting fda commissioner saying we don't think boosters are need the at the current time. immunity from the vaccine could be waning and they want the fda to authorize booster shots. here is the head of pfizer's vaccine and research development overnight. >> the booster situation is not about making money. the booster situation is that we find ourselves in a terrible
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situation. >> she wanted to say the virus is mutating in the unvaccinated. the whole reason this is a terrible situation is because of people not getting vaccinated and the people responsible for telling them not to do so. she says the outcome will be a quote disaster without boosters. the u.s. government and pfizer are not sending the same message on the boosters but what pfizer is saying is playing out in mississippi where the state health officer is sounding an alarm. according to d th dr. thomas do unvaccinated people account for 12% of admissions. it a really low vaccinated state. variant has time to go around. a lot of virus out there. more people get sick and die. dobbs claiming 7% of all deaths were among vaccinated mississippiens. jeff zeleny is live out front of the white house. what more are you learning about what the white house plans to do to combat the disinformation from elected representatives and
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members of the right wing media. >> reporter: erin, that's a small sample of it. the white house is watching all of this carefully and deciding to begin engaging much more forcefully. that is going to begin tomorrow here in a pretty dramatic way. the surgeon general of the united states we're told will be presenting a study here at the white house especially calling all this disinformation and misinformation a public health crisis. so they are going to really be pointing out the ways in which this is simply a matter of life and death. specific recalling out social media platforms, specific recalling out elected officials and others who have been pedaling in this misinformation. the white house is reluctant to get people to get vaccinated so they do not want to politicize this further. now they do believe they have to push back against this disinformation campaign also, though, they're going to ask for help from average citizens and businesses, as well, to push back against this. this is a disinformation
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campaign. erin, it's an open question if any of this will work because of course, so many people are giving their situation from one channel and only talking about one side, a non-realistic side of this vaccine. it kicks in gear tomorrow, erin. >> thank you very much, jeff. i want to go to d fr. francis collins. in the thick of this, so it's good to have you back, doctor, let start on this whole issue of the disinformation that's out there. i played an incredibly tiny selection of it. it's overwhelming in some corners if you surround yourself with it. should administration have pushed back sooner and harder against this disinformation? it sounds like dr. collins does not hear me so let's so if we
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can get him back here while they work on that. he's back. dr. collins, do you hear me now? i'm so sorry. do you have me? >> yes, i do. >> okay. i don't know if you heard my question but i was saying should administration have taken on this disinformation sooner and more aggressively? >> this is a tough one, erin, because i think maybe i'll speak particularly now as a f non-political person, scientist, doctor. you don't want to go into the teeth of a nasty argument because they may not compel too many people to accept your protective if they're resistant to the idea of vaccination. we tried pretty hard not to take that on but when you consider the harms that are now being done, the way in which this is not just a matter of people expressing opinions that might be wrong, this is life and death. the white house has come to the conclusion something more has to be done. we have to take this on
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frontally and not slhrug it off. we're losing time here. the delta variant is spreading. people are dying. we can't actually just wait for things to get more rational. >> and, you know, as part of this, obviously, we know the only solution is vaccination and if you had everybody vaccinated, the variant wouldn't have room to spread and adapt and mutate and do the things that it will do in a partially vaccinated population. right? the unvaccinated issue is causing the issue that pfizer says it sees. they're saying that boosters will be needed within six months to a year after the second shot. the fda and cdc after pfizer said that said a booster wasn't necessary. let me ask you where this stands. i understand you're looking at the data trying to get to the bottom of the science here. there was a meeting between pfizer and the top health officials of the united states. you were there. did pfizer convince you or do you think they're wrong here? >> oh, erin, it was very much a
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meeting to look at the scientific data, some from israel that had the pfizer vaccine than any other nation at a higher level. some of it was from a trial where think started to give people a third dose to see what really happens and it encouraging. they get a really vigorous i'm m immune response. there is nothing that would change my view that we need boosters imminently and pfizer was apologize geing they might jumped the gun. it's not necessary now. the vaccines we view no, moderna, pfizer, j&j are effective at protecting against in delta variant, which is the one we're worried about because it's spreading so rapidly across the country. >> is there any plan for the fda or cdc guidance to change regarding a third shot or booster for anyone? >> there is some consideration, i wouldn't call it a booster. i'd say for people with immune
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d da fieficiencies that didn't ge full response maybe an additional dose might help those people who have for instance, organ transplants or cancer patients on chemotherapy. i wouldn't call it a booster but saying you want to get the primary immunization up to the level it needs to be. that's under consideration. >> let me ask you about -- lolook, the numbers change and people report the numbers as they have them. this gets to the point about vaccines 1and researchers. 9 99.2% of covid deaths were in unvaccinated people. there are questions whether that made erode a bit. mississippi state health officer dr. thomas dobbs tweeted the other day and i'll read it to you. he sate quote, pretty much all cases in mississippi are delta variant right now.
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vast majority of cases, hospitalizations, deaths unvaccinated. 7% of deaths in vaccinated worrisome. we are allowing too much circulating data to reach the most vulnerable. he is saying 7% of the deaths were in vaccinated people, which of course, is troubling. do you know anything about that or is this number, this 99.2% will be eroding as delta surges? >>. >> i don't believe so. not from delta because the vaccines do work there. i don't understand the data from mississippi and i'd really like to understand what was the nature where those individuals who actually necessarily died of covid or of something else. so that ought to be looked at. all of the other data we've seen says 99 plus percent of people in the hospital with covid are unvaccinated. you quoted that result from los angeles, 1,000 people in the hospital all unvaccinated.
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i hope people will hear this right now listening to this. if you're on the fence about whether vaccination was going to help you, listen to those numbers. unvaccinated people going into hospital and dying. vaccinated people essentially not. so why are we waiting, folks? let's roll up our sleeves if we haven't already done so. >> thank you very much. i hope people will hear that. thank you so much, doctor. appreciate your time. >> thanks, erin. mitch mcconnell mocking president prbiden. a texas house democrat responsibilities next. why she postponed her wedding to go to washington. plus, a major push tonight towards legalizing marijuana at the federal level but does the president truly believe in the idea? senator cory booker who introduced a draft bill today is my guest and chilling 911 calls from the night of the catastrophic condo collapse.
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since the civil war. >> what utter nonsense. it would be laugh out loud funny if it wasn't so completely and totally irresponsible. voter i.d. protections are supported by majorities of white americans, black americans and hispanic americans but president biden calls these things quote a 21st century jim crow assault. one big lie after another. >> "out front "now democratic state representative of texas who fled texas for washington even though she was supposed to get married tomorrow but instead she's in washington to try to stop the vote on the controversial republican elections bill. so representative israel, thanks for being with me. leader mcconnell, you hear him mocks president biden and says it's non-sense to equate voter i.d. provisions to jim ycrow. you have fighting a bill that
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has new voter i.d. requirements for absentee voters. what is your reaction to mcconnell? >> i've been on the elections committee in the texas legislature for four years. i suggest the senator needs to read the bill. it criminalizes the precinct workers, those are retirees that do the work of running elections and criminalizes them for not following procedure and says if you work at a houston refinery or plant in samsung, we won't give you overnight times when you're working three shifts. counties tried to do something creative during a pandemic and the legislature clamped down on that government creativity to help people vote. we should be helping people vote. why are we doing this? there is no coincidence 11 million texans voted. it was a record turnout. we need to do better. that was their response. >> you and your colleagues met today and representative with
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democratic senators. you're trying to get them to pass federal voting rights legislation. the reality is do do not have the numbers to do that right now. did they say anything that made you think that that could change, that they could actually pass a national voting rights bill? >> we're very pragmatic in texas, erin. we do not know the ways of washington. our message was, you know, we love our texmex food in texas. if you can't get the combination plate, at least give us the rice and beans. let s let's see what we can get done like online voter registration or lowering criminal standards for just retirees trying to work a poll. there is a bunch of good things in there. let not hold back on moving forward at this historic time. state of state will do redistricting maps later this year. it's really important we make sure we correct this now.
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we can't wait. the texas legislature and dex tex texas democrats are sacrificing a lot personally, financially in order to come to washington d.c. and we'll meet with everybody we can to tell our story. >> you're sacrificing a lot. you were going to marry your partner of 28 years on the house floor. you were waiting to get married until same-sex marriage was legal. you waited a long time. this date means so much to you in so many ways. waiting 26 years and now have to put it on hold. why was it so important to make this sacrifice to join your colleagues in washington? >> well, i'm a democrat. i love this state so much. and things are really getting bad in texas and we felt like it was important for us to put everything on a shelf, let's leave. let break quorum and go to d.c. and tell our story because texas continues to drive to the bottom.
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my republican friends aren't happy with us right now but we'll hug it out when we get back home. for now, it's important to tell our kids and loved ones, i'll see you as soon as we can get back to texas. we love this state and that's why we're in d.c. we don't run away from ta fight. we've taken the fight back to d.c. >> thank you very much. appreciate your time, representative. >> erin, i'm having -- my friends are having a party tonight that was supposed to be my bachelorette party. i'll say hi to my friends and partner linda back in austin, texas. love you-all. >> i hope they're celebrating and you'll be able to celebrate a real wedding soon. >> thank you. next, democrats making a major push to decriminalize marijuana but obama's senior drug policy advisor says this is not a good idea. why? he's next. breaking news, a judge just granting brittany spear's request to hire her own attorney as the pop star breaks down
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tonight, democrats making a big move to legalize marijuana at the federal level. >> this is monumental because at long last we are taking steps in the senate to right the wrongs of the failed war on drugs. i will use my clout as majority leader to make this a priority. >> recent polling shows views on marijuana have dramatically shifted as some states have begun legalizing the drug at the state level so now here is the numbers. 70% of u.s. adults say marijuana should be legallegalized, whichp 20% since 2011. huge change in perception. "outfront" now democrat senator cory booker of new jersey who introduced this bill with the majority leader today. senator booker, this say topic you feel strongly about and done a lot on over the years. why is this so important to pass right now? >> first of all, this is a monumental day never before has
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a majority leader of either party endorsed a bill. when i started this effort when i came to the senate, it was a very lonely day but not only have opinions shifted, what is important about the bill is not look at it as a marijuana bill but as a restorative justice bill. we have last 2019 more marijuana arrests most of them for possession andthan all violent crime arrests combined. if you have a criminal conviction for doing things last of the half of the four presidents have done, your life is destroyed. can't get a business license or loan from the bank. thousands of people, many need their medicine who are suffering criminal consivictions and bein incarcerated for this because of the color of your skip. it makes this a social justice issue and restorative justice issue. >> on this point, president biden does support decriminalizing marijuana.
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here is what he said last week after the u.s. track and field star sha'carri richardson was suspended for marijuana use. >> the rules are the rules and everybody knows that the rules going in. >> do you know if the president personally supports the legislation? >> well, i've had a lot of chance on the campaign trail to talk to president biden about this. the reality is states have to abide by the federal laws. right now states are moving to legalize because it's put on a schedule one drug and illegal in the federal level, they are not in compliance with the federal law. so what president biden wants on the federal level, let's decriminalize it on the federal level so states moving in this direction can do what they want to do. dear god, in a nation where we have presidential candidates, senate candidates, congressional candidates, many people in this body admitted they have done marijuana and they as privileged people can enjoy no consequence
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when black americans are almost four times more likely to be incarcerated for marijuana, even though there is no difference in ug usage. we have a law that is unjust. things like this incredible olympic athlete who had her career destroyed over unjust laws is a shame and prohibition has caused real problems in this nation, and look, at a time that we want police resources focused on violent crimes, on theft, larcen larceny, to have them so tied up in persecuting a war against more vulnerable people that again that legislators themselves have done, this is hypocrisy at the highest extent and makes no sense and justice delayed is justice denied. >> i want to ask you another question, another big issue senator police reform where you've been negotiating with tim scott for months on a policing bill. he tells cnn quote i don't think we can do this after this month
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if we are not finished. it's best deal day. you're half way done. you have two weeks. he's giving you until the end of the month. do you think you guys can do this by then or will this fail? >> if you told me we gould the fraternal order of police by far, by tens of thousands, biggest union in the state to come forward and partner with me and real efforts at reform to get the international association of chief of police, another one of most reputable law enforce 789 cement organiza we've come so far on this to have it fall apart in the final moments is unacceptable. so senator scott and i have been working diligently on this. we both have shared publicly our own personal stories. the first time in american history three black men serve at the same time. we both know that there needs to be more transparency. there needs to be more accountability and a different set of standards in this country. that's what i'm insisting upon and i'm not putting any
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artificial deadlines. too much at stake. i'll work as hard as i can to get this done until people tell me we can't. >> appreciate your time. thank you very much. >> erin, as always, great to be on, thank you. >> as senator booker introduces the bill to decriminalize marijuana, critics worry about the unintended consequences of this legislation. "out front "now is the former drug policy advisor for the obama administration and author of smoke screen with the marijuana industry doesn't want you to know. kevin, you and i have talked about this issue at length over the past few years and you heard senator booker laying out his plan. and it looks like this is going to move forward. why do you disagree and worry about this? >> well, i don't think it going to actually go anywhere, erin and good to see you. thanks for having me. we have every major medical association and half a dozen democrats and republicans not in favor of this. we need to understand that decriminalization is not the same thing as legalization. so i'm all in favor of
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decriminalizing personal use, possession, but that's very different than opening up an industry where frankly guys like me make the money from big tobacco, big industries that do not have public health in mind at all and today's pot is very different. it not woodstock weed. it much stronger than it used to be. there is a good reason the scientific community is opposing this. >> let me ask you this. you raise an interesting point and there is a criminal justice aspect to this that is crucial and core as you point out and other as spepects as well. some of them raised by democrats. jon tester says it would raise more problems than solves. gene sha heen says this is a way more people get into drugs, the gateway drug argument. you have people that wouldn't want their workers doing this and their desk mate and airplane
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pilot doing this. they don't want thirteen agers doing this. let's be honest. yet, when you ask them overall do they support the policy, the number of americans that support it has surged. what is happening? >> well, i think there is a big misinformation campaign on an industry that relies on addiction for profit. this is about money. this isn't about anything else. if it was about social justice, we would only talk about decriminalization. let's expunge records and not throw someone in prison and arrm and again, they have a lot of money. they changed public opinion. i also think that the american people often mix up the issue, also of decriminalization and legalization. when you ask them, i'm not sure they're envisioning the bills that legalize 99% potent dabs, these gummys, ice creams,
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candies, sodas. i'm not sure people quite understand even what they are agreeing to when they answer the sur surveys. >> interesting point. thank you so much, kevin. appreciate your time. >> thanks for having me, erin. next, his wife says he was a healthy 46-year-old with no underlying conditions. but he died of covid last month. he had put off getting the vaccine and now his wife has a message for everyone. and breaking news, britney spears tells a judge tonight she's quote extremely scared of her father.
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at this point you think feeling it's over and you're moving past it and to be dealt this is horrible to imagine. so painful. i know that you went through the roller coaster in the icu. he seemed to be getting better. then took a turn. how suddenly did you lose rob? >> it felt like he was with me one day and gone the next. it was very quick on the 29th. we thought it was a good day and the 30th, he was intubated. it was really quick. >> and i know that you're choosing to speak out to try to save other lives, and, you know, i just so admire your courage in doing that. i know you and rob talked about getting the vaccine and he wasn't ready when it became available. he just wasn't ready yet at that
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time. how come? >> i think rob thought he was invincible. i think that a lot of men think that if nothing else has taken them down, that nothing can, and because of my role at the hospital, i know that he would have -- he never said i'm never doing to get vaccinated. it just wasn't ever the right time, and i didn't ever push him. >> i know you've said family members and friends have learned about, you know, his dying and this experience. what are you hearing from them? >> so, we've been really fortunate. rob's wish was to -- was to share his story at the time that he had talked to our infectious disease specialist at trinity,
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he had expected that he'd be sharing his story with everyone, and the turn around that he made. so i'm trying to honor that wish by sharing his story and i've had an overwhelming response from family and friends and a lot of people that i don't know at all reaching out to say that they've read or heard rob's story and that they've chosen to get vaccinated now. >> i'm so sorry for you and for your children. just so sad and, you know, to lose their father, i know that rob did want to share this story. i know when he did get sick, he told you he was going to get vaccinated as soon as he could when he got better and he did talk to you about your children and getting them vaccinated, too. can you tell me about any of those conversations?
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>> so on the day that i got him into the doctor he was struggling to catch his breath so we decided to go into the e.r. and when he got to the e.r., his oxygen rate was in the very low 70s, and so they immediately put him on an oxygen canula and that wasn't bringing up his numbers so they put on an oxygen mask and rob looked at me and said, get the kids vaccinated right away. i don't ever want to see them like this. rob wasn't one to back down on his opinions about things. i don't think that i ever heard him change his mind about anything. so for him to ask me to do that, i just knew how scared he was of
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the kids going through something like this, and so the kids got their first shot the next day. >> well, amy, i'm so sorry. i hope in telling something so raw and painful and personal that there will be others who will do the same. i know there will be and i thank you. >> thank you for the opportunity to share the story. >> next, we have breaking news on britney spear's conserv conservatorship. that is coming up right after this. we'll be right back. that's why dove renews your skin's ceramides and strengthens it against dryness for softer, smoother skin you can lovingly embrace. renew the love for your skin with dove body wash. flowers are fighters. that's why the alzheimer's association walk to end alzheimer's is full of them.
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to bring formal charges against him with her conservatorship. stepahnie elam is live outside the courthouse in los angeles. developments at this hour on this. >> reporter: right. britney getting many things she wanted. one thing is clear as we heard britney spears in court again she's angry at her father so much so she wants charges brought against him. britney spears is one step closer to potentially taking back control of her life. judge brenda penny granted the singer's request to choose her lawyer wasting no time, matthew was in court on behalf of spears. >> we feel today was a big step in the interest of justice. >> reporter: judge penny acre cement -- accepted the resignation of a wealth management firm and court appointed conserve tore of
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her $60 million estate. spears was emotional sobbing as she spoke for about 20 minutes saying she wants to get her father jamie spears removed from the arrangement and charged saying quote if this isn't abuse, i don't know what is. she added i thought they were trying to kill me. her new hear echoing some of her sentiments. >> pursuant we will be moving promptly and aaggressively for his removal. the question remains why is he involved. he should step down voluntarily as that is in the best interest of britney spears. >> reporter: the last time spears spoke in court about three weeks ago she railed against the conservatorship calling it abusive, demoralizing and embarrassing. she also claimed she was forced to perform, take medication including birth control and get
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therapy. her fans have intensified their calls to free britney from what they deem a toxic situation. gathering outside the courthouse as news spread of spears' victory. before the hearing spears gained some key support, too. her mother lynn spears said in court filings britney is able to care for herself and is in much different place than when the conservatorship began in 2008. that's when multiple health and psychiatric issues landed spears in the hospital in january. critics of the arrangement argue if britney can work then she can also handle her own affairs. and in recent years she's kept busy releasing several albums. headlining her las vegas residency and serving as a reality competition judge all while under the kconservatorshi and husband her petition stage
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earning, quote, literally hundr hundred and millions of dollars. and spears also said she's not willing to be evaluated again to get her father removed from this conservatorship. she said in court today, quote, i am not perfect but i am not crazy. >> thank you very much. and next terrifying new 911 calls from the night of the deadly condo collapse. is struggling to manage your type 2 diabetes
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>> no, a building. >> a building collapse? >> you need to seek with the operator. >> oh, my god. >> this tragedy has been a wakeup call for other condo owners. experts calling other aging condos around the country a ticking time bomb. >> reporter: in the wake of the catastrophe on the florida coast a shock wave is rattling through condo communities nationwide. inspection plans, delayed repairs and rapidly aging condo buildings are drawing intense scrutiny with one industry analyst calling the situation a ticking time bomb. >> all these old condo buildings, all of them are facing the need for major repairs, all of them. >> the problem with up to 30 million americans living in ka condos, a company that helps associations determine whether they've set aside enough money
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to easily pay for necessary repairs found only 30% due. 40% would struggle to meet necessary repair bills and the bottom percent are in a weak position financially, potentially unable to cover even critical refurbishments. >> they are facing large bills for infrastructure maintenance, those bills are only going to get larger the longer and longer they wait. >> that happened at shamplain towers south. in 2018 engineers called for $9 million in repairs. little was down, less than three years later the price tag was $15 million which meant each owner of a one bedroom unit would have to pay over $80,000 additional dollars over 15 years, a hard sell in any market. >> nobody wants their assessments increased today to pay for a roof that someone else is going to enjoy in five years. >> reporter: it wasn't always
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this way. condo sales boomed in the '70s and '80s as buyers were drawn to living in attractive locations with minimal maintenance. the buildings were shiny and new. >> some with breakfast rooms, extra large windows. >> reporter: but now amateur condo boards, limited government oversight and the sheer passage of time have experts convinced some of those buildings may be on the brink, and they are deeply worried about what comes next despite all the best intentions. >> we're going to make sure that it doesn't ever, ever happen again. >> reporter: we still don't know precisely what caused this latest catastrophe, but experts say we do know this. what was a golden age for condos in this country has turned into an olden age for many of them. and yeah, these problems can be addressed but only if condo associations and local governments get serious about it and stay serious about it and
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fix the problems, or we could be right back in this kind of catastrophe again. >> it's awful. thank you very much, tom. and thanks very much to all of you for joining us. of course you can watch out front anytime. just go to cnn go. anderson starts now. good evening. we begin tonight with breaking news on just how unhinged the final days of the last administration were and how much worse they might have gotten. we have some examples which are just now coming to light. america's top military commander comparing then-president trump's rhetoric to hitler's and his followers to brown shirts, to nazis. that top commander found himself rallying subordinates to protect the peaceful transfer of authority and perhaps to head off a coup. ha these and other chilling scenes are contained in a