sounds like he is going to make a big move to free britney from the control of her father. that's it for us. the news continues. i'm going to hand it over to chris for "cuomo prime time." >> anderson, i appreciate it. we have breaking news tonight. it was worse than we knew. what was? according to the book "i alone can fix it" obtained by cnn, general mark milley, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, was so shaken after the november election, he feared that trump and his allies might form a coup. they formally planned ways to stop. these revelations come from two pulitzer prize-winning authors at the "washington post." according to the book, milley told his deputies, quote, they may try, but they're not going to f-ing succeed. you can't do this without the military, you can't do this without the cia and the fbi.

where are the guys with the guns? what is getting lost in this, because this first flurry of the media is all about, the military was upset because trump was so bad bad. i get it. but now you have to pause. what's the real question? why did they feel this way, okay? why did milley and others worry so much? well, it turns out they thought that trump was going to order them to keep him in power. but did he? did he ever suggest anything like it? it matters. another missed question is, if they did think that was happening, why did they believe their best response was to plan to resign one by one? they write that milley's concerns only grew after trump purged pentagon leadership right after the election. that included the firing of esper. remember esper stood aside after

the election and said this. >> we do not take an oath to a king or queen, a tyrant or dictator. we do not take an oath to an individual. no, we do not take an oath to a country, a tribe or religion. we take an oath to the constitution. >> now you know why he came with that message. so they viewed trump as the classic authoritarian leader with nothing to lose. he drew parallels to hitler. could be the modern american equivalent of brown shirts in the streets, referring to the pro-nazi militia that fueled hitler's rise to power. that's heady stuff, especially for a military man, to compare somebody to hitler? fast-forward to after the

january 6 insurrection. milley held a conference call each day with mark meadows and secretary of state mike pompeo to survey the horizon for trouble. what does that mean? and it describes the relief that milley said he felt when joe biden was inaugurated on january 20th. relief that there had not been a coup, thinking to himself, quote, thank god almighty, we landed the ship safely. what did they do to land the ship safely? the book quotes him speaking to the obamas sitting on the inauguration stage. michelle obama asked milley how he felt. the answer? nobody has a bigger smile today than i do. you can't see it under my mask, but i do. let's unpack this. you have politics and you have military here. let's look at both, okay? we have jim acosta, michael smerconish, and we also have lieutenant general mark hurtling and phil mudd. so we'll tackle all of this.

we'll talk to mark and phil in a second to talk about the military. jim, do you hear anything out of the former administration about what is true and what isn't true here? >> yeah, chris, this alliigns wh a lot of what we were reporting around the insurrection and in the insurrection. i talked to a source of trump around the time of the insurrection who said trump had lost his mind, he had lost it. he was essentially trying everything by hook or by crook to overturn the election results at that time. what's reported that general milley said -- this goes back years and years. i've talked to two senior white house officials who both said trump is insane. that's the word, insane. the question, chris, what do we do about this information? donald trump, i think it is very clear and in these books it's becoming more clear, between november 3rd and the january 6

insurrection was attempting to carry out an administrative coup, if not a bloody coup at the capitol january 6. the question we all have to come to grips with at some point is what should be done about it? i think arguably donald trump committed crimes on the way to january 6. is anything going to be done about it? why have we not had this conversation in this country? i think it's a critical question, chris, whether or not the former president of the united states belongs in the slam slammer for what he did on january 6. the general appears to have put his finger on a very big problem, and that is that donald trump was behaving like an adolf hitler who is potentially looking to overthrow the government. that's a very serious allegation. that's a very serious thought on the part of the joint chief of staff chairman, and i think it's something the country just has to come to grips with. >> mike, your take.

>> it's a reminder of how much we still don't know about the events of january 6 in particular. and i say that because the debate continues as this commission still don't know who the republican participants will be, is just now getting off the ground. beyond that, a question, chris. cpac was last weekend. you know who won the straw poll. if this book had come out a week ago, would it have changed any minds in that room? my conclusion? probably not. third observation. i get it, i applaud the concern and the exercise of control on behalf of milley and others, but where were they on january 6? i mean, all i have to go on so far is the release of this one portion of the book which paints this picture of being on guard and protecting the nation, creating a steel ball wall aroue capitol on january 20. but if the report at the same time is saying the concern was there from election day forward, then i have to ask why was

january 6 able to take place? >> that's why i'm a student of yours, michael. my head is in the same place. let me read something to you. please put up the milley-pelosi conversation because it goes to, jim, were they just afraid of things or did they have reason to be afraid? after the january 6 insurrection, pelosi told the general that she was deeply concerned that a crazy, dangerous, maniac trump might use nukes in these final days. milley reassured her, there is not going to be an accidental firing of nuclear weapons. we'll only follow legal orders. we'll only do things legal, ethical or moral. one, that's a bit of an education to the american public that, no, the military doesn't have to follow what even the commander in chief tells them, but jim, what were these failures based on? to michael's point, why did milley believe he may have to stop them? and did trump ever do anything

othe to make them anything other than afraid, or was this just scared milley? >> i did my own reporting on this, i wrote about this in my own book. there have been instances during the course of the trump administration where people around trump and other allies that are close to the united states, officials with allies close to the united states, who were concerned that donald trump potentially had his finger on the nuclear button. i wrote about this in my own book, that trump, when he was in puerto rico, looking at the aftermath of hurricane cure ya, about how he had control of the nuclear suitcase. it freaked people around his reporters at the time. i've talked to officials in washington who were also concerned about this. th this was a matter that was

brought up on capitol hill. this has been a concern, and, again, i hate to talk about this stuff because nobody wants to talk about this stuff. this has been a concern for some time now. this is not a fresh concern. >> you've been right. i've heard you, i've never questioned your reporting. but nothing ever happened to confirm these suspicions. and that's, i think, one of the suggestions that this book is going to have to deal with, or the authors will, or general milley will. milley, talking to vp harris, put up the full screen. as the inauguration ended, kamala harris paused to thank milley. we know what you and the other generals did. >> i know it was meeting of the crazy train.

what did they do? >> i guess in the end they didn't need to take dramatic measures to protect the nation. but let me tell you how that particular exchange is going to be interpreted in half the country. >> there was vice president. there had been a change in administration. i'm not buying into that, i'm just telling you the narrative of this chapter will be read as confirmation of what they've been saying all along. >> unfortunately, you need to have somebody do something absolutely horrible to confirm suspicions that that might happen. and up until that point, jim, as we both know, that's where the snowflake stuff comes up and all the other b.s. they play, too. but look, jim, you've been on it from the beginning. the concerns were real and they looked all the. now we go to the military

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would come to them to try to use them as a muscle to keep power? how concerned should we be that these officials were secretly drawing response plans in case the president of the united states did try to pull off a coup? how concerned should we be that the best plan they could come up with was to quit? these are questions in the book "i alone can fix it." let's discuss with lieutenant mark hertling and phil mudd. general, what's your take? >> general milley as the chairman, first of all, most of your viewers may not know this, is not in command of any forces. his role as the chairman by law is to provide military advice to the president and advice and testimony to congress. he believes in civilian control of the military. we don't know all the things that happened over the years when he was serving as the chairman to president trump.

we have certainly seen some things that former president trump did that are contrary to living up to the constitution. we've seen him on multiple occasions say that the military will do anything he orders them to do, that they will kill terrorists and steal oil. what you're talking about is military civilianism. as soon as an illegal or immoral order is issued, he will not obey that or pass it lalong. what we haven't talked about at all is where is the person in the chain of command between the president and the military? if milley is the advisor, the secretary of defense, in this case, retired lieutenant colonel chris miller, who had recently been appointed to the job, was in a position to issue the

orders to the military, and yet he was awol. all of these things are factors in milley standing up and saying, hey, you fellow members of the joint chiefs, we are not going to obey an illegal order. we are not going to allow an authoritarian to disrupt our upholding of the constitution. >> i get it. phil, it's daunting, it's scary, but based on what, is my point. what was the order? was this just very high brass being paranoid because of what they suspected, or was there something that triggered their concern? the book, just going through excerpts, and i don't know if they get to it or need to because the headlines will drive everyone nuts for a couple days. did they have any reason to feel this way? >> there are a couple ways to think about this, chris. this issue of paranoia, i would

take that off the table. people like me from the cia and the fbi, we are not elected. they are. we support them. that's what we do in this country. for someone like general milley with that level of experience to say i have questions about whether there will be a peaceful transition, and clearly questions about the president's mindset, that can't simply be paranoia. what we're missing here is the factual backdrop about conversations he heard, interactions with the president that led him to believe this is so. let me close with the upside here. the fact that you have a military who says, look, it's not our job to intervene here if this happens. we'll resign before the military takes a frontal role in managing government. to me that's heartening. they weren't going to stick around if they saw something unconstitutional. they were going to leave. that's the right move. >> you're shaking your head, general, in agreement. you're nodding your head,

rather. help convince me, general, because i don't get it yet. resign? that's the best thing that you can do in terms of if you're worried about a coup? >> that's the best thing you can do because that sends a signal to the american people that there is chaos within the military. and when one individual, let's say the chief of staff of the army resigns, and then the chief of naval operations resigns, then you know there is something desperately wrong within the military and within the government. and that has happened very rarely in our history, when a senior ranking general officer resigns. it means that something is in dire trouble. i'll reinforce what phil said. there is other reportings where m mill milley was in the room hearing trump talk about stopping the rioters. there were other reports where he said shoot american citizens, or shoot them in the legs if you

don't want to shoot to kill. these are the kinds of things that really lead toward a civil war and violate the military's oath to support the civilian sectors of our society, which, by the way, also takes an oath to defend the constitution, which some have, some have not. >> okay, i get it. i get the checks and balances argument and i get why this boosts your feeling that these people in this position at this time were doing the right thing. my question becomes, how should we judge trump in this, general? i'll start with you, phil, and i'll finish with you, general. how do we judge trump in this? is it just that his mouth and his recklessness and his ignorance of the office was just creating more anxiety as the event around him became more cataclysmic, or does he deserve more blame? >> i would say more blame, for the reason that general hertling and i are talking about.

when you spend decades in the service and you're told from day one, whatever these guys say goes. if we want to break the iran nuclear deal, fine,. this is what our constitution says. if you get someone like general milley and others, evidently, who were saying we are so concerned about the mindset of the sitting president of the united states that we think there might be a coup attempt, chris, you have to step back and say, this isn't anxiety, this isn't paranoia, this is an impression of the president where professionals are saying he's unhinged. i have never heard anything like this. >> me, either. general, do you believe that what you heard in context from men and women that you know in the highest echelons of the service that this is an alarm people should listen to because they have reason to from trump?

>> yes, and i've heard that from many government officials. it was apparent to many that trump was dead set on controlling all the institutions of our democracy not for the support of the people, but for his personal use and gain. some institutions, the courts, the intel community, the military, they waivered a little b little but they stayed firm. other institutions did not. what we have seen and is so frustrating to many who work in government is when we see that balance of power you were talking about and people debating what they should do or abrogating their responsibilities to do the right thing to support the constitution, and we've seen that over the last couple of years. that's when the trouble arises. thank god for general milley, in my view. >> general hertling, phil mudd, thank you very much, gentlemen. appreciate it. left and right in an issue like this, it's about being reasonable. we've never heard anything like this before, and it's not because military people haven't spoken to journalists before. if you have an open mind, what

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so now we learn that the united states military's top brass devised a plan to prevent former president trump from potentially staging a coup after the 2020 election. why would they be so worried? because of what they saw after january 6, how they were getting rid of everybody in the trump administration from the upper echelons of the pentagon. does it matter to trumpers? let's bring in michael vergiss of texas. good to see you. >> good to see you. can i just correct something? i don't believe in the vaccine, i believe in god, but i believe the vaccine was an answer to our prayers. >> what is that supposed to mean? >> before the break, you said i believe in the vaccine. actually, i believe the vaccine was an answer to a prayer, certainly a prayer i had prayed many, many nights between january 2020 and when we finally got the emergency use

authorization. >> do you think the vaccine works? >> i don't think there's any question. just look at the data. look at the hospitalizations. look at the deaths. you saw where we were in a october, november and december. sure, you have a couple variants causing a great deal of concern, the delta variant. they seem to be more infective. i'm not sure if they work as well with people who have had two doses of the vaccine. this is, after all, a novel virus that no one has had a whole lot of experience with this up until now. >> you say people need to pay attention to this. is that fair? >> yes. >> isn't it true that too many people have been paying attention to members of their party who are lying to them about the vaccine and telling them it's deep state, government overreach, you don't really need it, a democrat ploy? >> i've heard that, chris, but

look, i think the prior administration missed a wonderful opportunity in march. in fact, andy slavitt recommended before president biden made a big speech one night, he said i give a tip of the hat to the biden administration of the vaccine. it was a good job. i think many of them said it will be 18 months before we get a vaccine, and that's if everything goes perfectly and nothing goes perfectly. 18 months would be where we are today. can you imagine if we were just now getting the emergency use authorization for one of those vaccines? >> god forbid, to borrow your faith mechanism. but let me ask you this. imagine where we would be if the designer of operation warp speed in a way, certainly at the top of the food chain, president trump, had told people to take the vaccine, had told people he

had taken it, and that he had given it to his family, and that he pushed it robustly. and people like you had been on him to do so when he wasn't. >> i think he did. he went on television and told people he took the vaccine. >> he did it as little as he could, doctor, and you know it. >> people need to do their own research, figure things out. you don't have to be told by your government whether it's a good or bad thing. figure it out. look at the disease rates and what has happened since january 1st of last year and it is nothing short of stunning. >> you don't think it is the president's job to tell people the vaccine was good, available, and to take it as often as he told them that the election was a lie and that he was still a president and that there was fraud? you don't think the vaccine being pushed was more of a mandate for him than that? you really think he did enough in pushing the vaccine? really? >> absolutely. look, the vaccine would not even be here had he not pushed it.

because he was told by his public health officials, look, 20 years ago we beat sars. we did it with vaccine pushing, but that didn't work because of that long latency period. remember that 10 days to two weeks where you could be infected but not asymptomatic? >> yes. we got the vaccine and they didn't push it. to make it worse, you know what the numbers are right now. do you think it's a coincidence that you have so many more republican and trump supporters who aren't vaccinated and that so many of them say they're not going to take it for some political reason? how they cheered at cpac? let me play you some of the sound that makes my point before you shake your head. representative, let me play this for the audience. >> you are going to drive oppositional behavior and this is known. i don't know why people --

>> representative? i lost you. say it again. i lost you for a second, represent dr. burgess. >> when you make it a mandate, it drives people away. i remember we were told we had to take the swine vaccine and i was told it gave you guillain-barre. i didn't take it. talk to your trusted health care professional. >> but there is no mandate. >> talk to your trusted health care professional and get the straight story on this vaccine. >> representative, i got to tell you, i'm having a hard time following. there is no mandate. what there is is messaging like this. >> great. why were all these people lying

about it? honest question. and they were lying, clearly they were lying. >> i feel like a vaccination in a weird way is just generally kind of going against nature. maybe there is just an ebb and flow to life where something is supposed to wipe out a certain amount of people and that's just kind of the way evolution goes. vaccines kind of stand in the way of that. >> we are over 3,000 deaths after -- within 30 days of taking the vaccine. >> government and so-called public health experts are trying to force your kids to get injected with an experimental covid vaccine whether you want them to or not. >> then they come and intimidate you to take the vaccine by day. you need to tell them to get the hell off your lawn. >> but the focus of this administration on vaccination is mind-boggling. they'll be knocking on your door soon. go home and check your ring doorbell. >> you're okay with this kind of jackassery that has led to a

deficiency of people in this country? now they're getting sick, now they're in hospitals and the variant is spreading? you're okay with this? >> you're inflating a number of things. nobody really knows in the underage groups who are at very low risk from the coronavirus, nobody really knows. it is important that that information, people are doing the research on that. that information needs to be transparent and shared. and, again, people need to make up their own minds. i got to tell you, i got a call this evening from someone at the cdc wanting to know if i've been vaccinated. for crying out loud, you gave me the vaccine. you should know. you shouldn't have to call me and ask me. z >> what does that have to do with anything? people showing up at the hospital who are very sick are almost, without exception, unvaccinated. the people who are dying are unvaccinated. you have people connected to your political party that you are not speaking out against who are telling people not to take

it. you're okay with that? >> that is the message that people should be getting. who is showing up at the hospital sick? it's unvaccinated people. now, we don't know at this point with the delta variant if it is as lethal as the original coronavirus, but it could be. if you take the vaccine and you're much less likely to get ill, for had heaven's sakes, consider taking the vaccine. if you don't take the vaccine, don't go in crowds, wear a mask, social distance. >> you know they won't wear a mask. trump never wore a mask. i understand what you're saying -- i know you believe in god, i get it. that the vaccine was the answer to your prayers, people should take it. but why don't you call out the people who are giving an opposite, ignorant and toxic message on why not to take it?

>> i have discussions with people all the time. >> but say it now. say wthat what i just showed yo in that video is wrong for what people are doing on tv. >> don't listen to me. talk to your doctor. talk to a trusted person. get your information. don't listen to people on political talking shows. that's not where you should get your medical information. >> but what about from members of congress who say don't take the vaccine, i don't buy it. >> i'm telling you to take it. so buy that. >> what about the people who say otherwise. >> they're wrong. take the vaccine if you're in the age group where you could be did he e devastated by the illness. >> i get it. i'm saying it's hard to tell the truth when other people are saying something else. that's why i wanted you on, doctor. i respect you as a clinician, i

respect your vocation. thank you for being on. >> thank you. britney spears has a new lawyer, okay? that will probably make all the difference. the pop star spoke to a court again today, this time in tears accusing her father of abuse. a judge ruled in her favor. she's got her own lawyer. we're going to bring in her former attorney to set the stage now for what this means and what will happen next.

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today a judge finally approved britney spears' request to hire her own attorney in the battle to end her 13-year conservatorship overseen by her father. as we've spoken about before, these are for people who can't handle their own affairs. how does she perform? how does she do so many shows? how does she create so much media if she's incompetent? ms. spears was on the phone, crying, and calling it f-ing cruelty. i thought they were going to kill me.

i want to charge my father for excessive abuse. i want to bring charges against my dad. let's bring in britney spears' former attorney. how big of a deal is it that she's been allowed to hire counsel and what happens next? >> i think everything changes, chris. i think immediately we'll see a petition to terminate the conservatorship, but as you heard today, she wants an investigation. here's the really interesting thing about that. everybody involved in this conservatorship over the past 13 years have been obtaining orders from the court a prpproving all their actions and compensation. the rule is if you get notice and you don't object, those orders are binding. you'll remember that at law school as race adjudicata. they will argue that she got notice because her former lawyer got notice. her lawyer obtained an order saying he didn't have to show

britney anything that was being filed in her case. so the argument now is going to be how could she possibly have waived her rights to object if she wasn't even able to see these things? so all those people that thought that all of these chapters have been closed over 13 years, they're going to be worried right now that that ain't so, because we got a lawyer now who isn't interested in the game, i'll scratch your back and you scratch mine. >> yeah, roserosengarten looks have his claws out in a certain way to rip down this abuse. that happens before the allegation. what happens to determine whether or not the conservatorship should be dissolved? >> i would expect a petition to immediately be filed that this conservatorship should be terminated. keep in mind conservatorship should only exist and should be terminated unless it's the last possible resort.

it's the only means to be able to help somebody. and there is no way, given everything that we know now, that there aren't other ways of helping her if she needs help, to function in any way, whether it's financially or with her medical or what have you. >> is it a psychiatrist battle? what happens next? a hearing? >> yeah. so first of all, that is typically the way it goes, that we have a battle of the experts to say whether or not she has the ability to be able to function, but it involves all kinds of other evidence and doesn't even necessarily need to be a psychiatric evidence. show that she's able to function and that she's able to make decisions, and if there are other ways to help her that she's got the means and the resources to get that help. >> counselor, thank you very much. i'll come back to you to make sense of it for us in the entire sequence of getting some finality here. appreciate you. speaking of freedom, cuba. keep it on your mind.

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cuba is less than 100 mile from florida, that crisis will impact our communities like miami. my next guest, francis suarez good to have you. >> thanks for having me. >> when i went to cuba one of the expressions is. [ speaking foreign language ]. yes to cuba. cuba is worthy. cuba is tough. i remember asking somebody there if this was from the government. they said no cuba is its people. we are held down bilities government. do you think the moment has come people will be free of a dictatorship regime >> that's our open we neever sen the kind of protest we're seeing

on the island. i want to thank you how you highlighted this is very important to the people living in the united states who have family in cuba who are dramatically impacted by this. but in cuba this has never happened in 60 years of dictatorship is spontaneously uprise in 40 different cities at an incredible risk to their lives. they are hitting the streets with nothing to defend themselves with. they are being repressed violently, the last couple days after the sunday uprising and my hope and my prayer is they will find a peaceful way to transfer to democracy and we help this is the moment. >> we hope it happens. in the arab spring we seen much less numbers with the greater structure over the people. the need americans can satisfy

with 30 million doses in gordon tokumatsu pile stock pile, shouldn't we get the people the essentials to sustain whatever energy they have before any military involvement would probably end america's ability to help on a humanitarian level. >> absolutely. we as a country are incredible generous and we have the resources, also haiti is suffering tremendously, i think of course every effort should be made to come up with a diplomatic solution and we should offer medical and food resources. end of the day the cuban people are not chanting we want food and medicine they're chanting,

down with the regime, we want liberty. that's what they're fighting for and what they're being brutally repressed over. >> do you believe the u.s. military should go in first? >> no, i think what we need to do is exhaust all remedies, i think our military option is always the last option. military s option is only when all other options are exhausted. i was born in this country, i'm an american, my parents came at this country at 12 and 6 and i'm very proud in the moments of history this country fought to liberate people throughout the world. i think that option is one that shouldn't be off the table. it should be discussed. and i think if for no other reason to keep the cuban government honest. they have no fear that anything going to happenattention.

american people have to care. there are few situations that i would argue is unique in terms of the strength of the cuban community here and almost, you are young -- you're accomplished but you're young, but the i'doff the connection and what's been done here by people who fled here makes it unique. mayor suarez we'll stay on it. thank you. >> thank you so much it means the world to us. >> the hand off, next.

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