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born marcel. he was in "men in black 2" he was a deejay, radio host, his friend and manager said he was a vibrant personality. bismarckie, 57 years old. >> rest in peace. michael smerconish is up next. what should the president do and no, i'm not talking about the incumbent? i'm michael smerconish in philadelphia. look at this map, for the first time since january, covid is rising in all 50 states and d.c. and in many respects the vaccination maps of the united states resemble the final result of the 2020 election. in mississippi, only about one-third of the state is vaccinated. seven children in the state now
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in the icu, with two on ventilators. a poll last night by abc news and "the washington post" found that only 6% of democrats say they aren't likely to get vaccinated. whereas, 47% of republicans fall into that camp. of course, the virus doesn't stay contained by political boundaries and the ferocious delta variant which now accounts for an estimated 57% of all cases. poses a risk to not only those who choose not to get vaccinated but also kids are and those for medical reasons can't get vaccinated. so how do we reach the vaccine hesitant? can anyone persuade them? what about the person on whose watch the vaccine was developed in record time, former president donald trump? you would think that donald trump would be eager to remind that the vaccines were formed on his watch and relative to warp speed. relative to the times he spends complaining about the 2020
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election results he hardly mentions it. last week, he send out a missive saying that his administration did a, quote, great job with respect to the pandemic. and without the vaccine the entire world would have ended under like in 1917. the spanish flu, where as many as 100 million people died. but he refuses to take the next logical step which would be to encourage his fellowers to protect themselves. i think he doesn't want to risk alienating the vaccine hesitant who's supportive by encouraging them to get a jab. meanwhile, the unvaccinated needlessly suffer the dire consequences. here from los angeles county, everybody hospitalized with covid has one thing in mon. they're not fully vaccinated. over 99% of the county's current cases, hospitalizations and
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deaths, are among the unvaccinated. and now as a consequence of the surge, starting tonight, only a month after reopening and regardless of their vaccination status. all l.a. residents could be required to wear masks in indoor spaces. to the north, san francisco's mayor said similarly, all of those hospitalized for the coronavirus in the city's general hospital are unvaccinated. but of those in california, a blue state where over 52% have been fully vaccinated, do you need more convincing? because earlier this month, cdc director rochelle walensky cited early data from several states that suggested in the last six months, 99.5% of covid deaths occurred among unvaccinated people. think about that. all of these real world tests implying that a vaccine could be the only thing keeping you out of the hospital for worse. and yet, only about 48.4% of the u.s. population is now fully
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vaccinated. and new vaccination rates, they're plummeting steadily downward. nevertheless, the mouthpieces of resistance are more and more proudly resolute. you can look no further than the recent cpac where writer alex barronson got the crowd to applaud the fact that president biden had missed the fact of vaccinating 70% of america. >> the government was hoping that they could sort of sucker 90% of the population into getting vaccinated. and it isn't happening, right? younger people -- >> sucker. so what's to be done? frank luntz, the republican pollster and strategist known for his fox news focus group, advising the biden administration in overcoming the vaccine's political divide. this week, he pitched to cnn's don lemon that president biden should ask president trump to film a psa with him, giving him credit for the vaccine, and
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encouraging supporters to take it like trump and his whole family have. i like luntz's idea. i just don't think it will ever happen. pop star olivia rodrigo was at the white house on wednesday to answer the call to be an advocate. but if biden were to extend such an invite to trump, i doubt it would be accepted. and why should the onus be on biden to get trump to play a positive role to receive the vaccination that trump himself accepted and combat misinformation. speaking of which, thursday brought an unusual warning from america's surgeon general, dr. vivek murthy, against health information which he blamed for declining vaccination rates. yesterday on the south lawn of the miscellaneous, a reporter asked president biden about his message to social media platforms like facebook on covid misinformation. >> what's your message to platforms like facebook? >> they're killing people.
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i mean -- really, look, the only pandemic we have is among the unvaccinated. and they're killing people. >> it's a pretty stunning claim. and it displays a level of kern concern the white house now has about the study stall in finishing off the pandemic. facebook has this about being blamed, we will not be distracted by accusations that aren't supported by the facts. the fact is more than 2. people have viewed authoritative information about covid-19 and vaccines on facebook, which is more than any other place on the internet. more than 3.3 million americans have used our vaccine finder tool to figure out how and where to get a vaccine. the facts show that facebook is helping save lives, period. go to smerconish.com. agree or disagree, they're killing people, president biden regarding social media platforms
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like facebook on covid misinformation. joining me to tuesday, chief medical officer in los angeles, doctor, that information is stunning to me. what do you hear from the vaccin vaccine hesitance? >> we hear all kinds of reasons why people are hesitant. perhaps the greatest worry is people are worried about side effects, they've heard strange stories, either through social media, nationaled me or certain political leaders, that is really a tragedy, because as you know, we are seeing rapidly increasing rates of cases and hospitalizations among the unvaccinated. >> you have the surgeon general, the white house press secretary and the president himself all speaking about social media in particular. how much of what you hear is
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coming from social media? >> well it is hard to say, but you know, when what we see in the hospital and in the clinics is that folks that are hesitant are sometimes convinced by their doctor or their nurse. someone that they trust, that they go to for their other medical care. if we can get in with them and speak to them one-on-one about it, that sometimes helps overcome some of what people are hearing on social media. or what they're hearing from other sources of media that they trust. so that's really important to do. >> the data that says that no one hospitalized in l.a. county for a covid-related ailment is fully vaccinated suggests you're not going to get covid if you're fully vaccinated. but if one of those have been abhorrent cases you do get it, nothing bad is going to happen to you. you won't require hospitalization, and you won't
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die. >> well, you know, that is so far what we are seeing. we are certainly seeing a small percentage of breakthrough infections among people actually vaccinated. but as you said, you don't usually get very sick. you don't need to be hospitalized. certainly for the unvaccinated we're seeing what we were seeing before, but even worse. but as you said, michael, in the beginning, the delta variant is ferocious, it is highly contagious and it may in fact make people way sicker than the earlier covid. so this is a really big deal. >> and finally, why do we hear, and among those who are fully vaccinated, nevertheless, need to have a global perspective in all of this? >> well, that's such an important point. what we see is that we in the united states are so fortunate, because of the work, as you point out, was done by the previous administration to obtain a huge volume of vaccines. we have enough vaccines for
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everybody in the united states. actually twice over. and yet, we have people not taking the vaccine. meanwhile in other parts of the world, in the continent of africa, asia, south america, there are countries struggling with significant outbreaks of covid. people are dying. and they're dieing to get the vaccine. and the problem with all of this is, as with as we have people who don't take the vaccines, the virus then replicates a lot more in people and to create an even worse variant. right now, we're dealing with the delta variant. let's hope that enough people get vaccinated so we don't see another even worse variant that makes all the vaccines we've taken ineffective. >> and to those who strictly see a matter of personal liberty, 00 eye say consider the people who can't make a choice, right? because they are kids or they have a medical condition that doesn't allow them the freedom of making the determination that they can get it for themselves. you get the final word. >> absolutely, we all have loved
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ones who may have cancer or immunosuppressed systems. they took the vaccine or they're not eligible yet, children, the elderly. we have everyone who has the right to make the right decision, the scientific decision backed by medicalen is. >> dr. mahajan, thank you so much for being here. >> thank you. >> i want to know what you think, go to my website smerconish.com. answer this week's survey question. do you agree or disagree with what you heard from the president yesterday, they're killing people. relative to covid misinformation. from the world of twitter. what do we have kathryn? >> you know what kills censorship. ask people in cuba, china, russia, north korea, the list is too long. let's make sure we don't add one
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more country to it. i i understand, flood the zone, because if you remove it from social media, you're only going to fuel it. before there was social media nothing spread across town like gossip. and this is just the modern incarnation of that. i think what poses more of a danger to social media are people who have platforms like this one. and spread information and not enough people are willing to change the channel. up ahead, as president biden and the democrats look to shell out the big bucks for their sweeping social agenda, average consumers are having to shell out more than usual for food, gas and housing. i'll speak to former obama adviser lawrence summers who has been warning about it for months. was he right all along? and we're seeing a deluge of books about former president trump.
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pepcid. strong relief for fans of fast. for months, former obama economic adviser lawrence summers has been sounding the alarm saying that president biden's big spending gain creates the risk of a dangerous inflation spike. but the white house and summers' fellow democrats, some big tickets items include the $1.8 trillion in march which employed stimulus payments per person. $300 weekly benefits and expanded child tax credit where eligible families can get up to $3200 for each child under 6. and $3,000 for each child aged 6 to 17. in fact, tens of millions of families have been sent the very first payment this week. and now democrats have reached an agreement on a $3.5 trillion
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on president biden's sweeping agenda. it would include funding for medicare, obamacare expansion. paid leave. clean energy tax breaks and two years of free community college. plus, the latest budget resolution doesn't even include the $600 billion bipartisan deal on roads and bridges. so as all of that spending begins to add up, has lawrence summers been right all along about inflation? this week, he met with top white house economic officials as an economic report brought bad news. in the past month, prices were up 5-4%. those are the biggest jumps in annual inflation in 13 years. to get more specific, here's where your wallet is taking a beating. compared to this time last year, filling up your gas tank is now
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45% more expensive. transit costs have increased 10%. clothing up 5% and food by 2.4%. a senior administration official points to recent easing in the price of lumber as a welcome development. some experts agree like the chief economist at pnc financial said the headline numbers have been eye-popping in recent months but underlying inflation remains under control. but climbing out complicates new matters and there's evidence that labor shortages are slowing the recovery. so what are the biggest economic risks we're facing, joining me now to discuss this long-term concerns former treasury secretary under president bill clinton director of the economic council for the obama administration, and president emeritus of lawrence university,
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lawrence summers. mr. summers, in terms i can understand, why are we paying more for virtually everything? >> because we've got more demand chasing only a little more supply. and when demand goes up fast and supply doesn't, prices get bit up. that's the way it works with shirts, that's wait it works with houses, that's the way it works with gasoline. we have pumped demand all up. and there's a question as to how fast we can grow supply. and right now, in substantial sectors, we've got demand growing faster than supply. and that's why what we've got to do is take an approach that balances demand growth. and supply growth. i was, as you said in your intro, very uncomfortable with the level of funds that were being sprayed around.
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in the initial recovery act. because i thought it was doing almost nothing to increase supply. and in fact, the unemployment insurance payments were reducing supply of workers, people staying on the sideline. and it was doing a huge amount to promote demand. i think if we do the investments that are now under discussion by president biden and the congress, which we do them right which means we pay for them, we spread them out over time, and we focus them on growing the economy's potential, then i think that can very much be the right thing to do. ultimately, what we want to do is reduce inflation by increasing the economy's supply potential. and that means investing in our future. >> does the fed need to do something to pump the brakes, namely, to raise interest rates? >> i think it would be premature
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for the fed to raise interest rates right now. i think the fed is sounding -- i think the fed has been wrong for the last six months in its optimism of that inflation will be transient. i think it is still being too gradual in recognizing that error. i think the fed should stop, in a gradual way, but should indicate, very soon that it is stopping buying mortgages at a time when the housing market is totally on fire. i think in general, what the fed is doing is for our country, substituting short-term get for long-term get, at a moment when interest rates are low. and the economy is taking off is not probably what they should be doing. so, i'd like to see them on the
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fastest reasonable track, and that doesn't mean immediately. but the fastest reasonable track to ending quantitative easing. >> what happened to concerns over debt? what happened to the era of simpson bowles where that was the conversation of all of those matters? >> i think what happened is we pursued overly austere policies, michael, for the last seven, eight years, and we got too slow a recovery. i think in retrospect, the simpson bowles recovery over time were badly overdone. we had assumer interest rates, and it wasn't enough to push our economy well forward. i think the problem is that we then went and ran completely to the other side of the boat. it was the right thing to do, to spend 15% of gdp last year, when
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we all had to stay home because of covid. this year, when the economy was coming back when people had huge levels of assets ready to spend to protect another 15% of gdp was a prudent act. but we need a balance. and that balance doesn't mean going back to austerity economics which is not appropriately for this moment. it means learning that government's got an important role in sustaining public investment, and sustaining demand. but that doesn't mean we can be completely undisciplined. that's why the principles going forward need to be paying for spending not just borrowing to spend. targeting spending on high-priority investments in the
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economy's future potential. if we can concentrate on those things, look, we have a lot of problems in this country, i'd rather be playing the hand of the united states than any other country. >> i respect your conversation. you're leaving this week at the white house, did you leave the white house satisfied that your concerns have been heard? >> you know, i don't talk about -- i don't talk about my meetings -- my meetings or conversations with public officials either in the white house or treasury, or the congress. i will say that i think president biden is a very, very strong leader. i think he's a terrific team of people around him who are doing their absolute best for this country. and i admire them very much.
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>> secretary summers, thank you, appreciate you being here. >> thank you. let's see what you're saying via twitter, via facebook. this comes from the world of twitter i think. the more money you print, the less value it has, thus, inflation. yeah, i guess that's the way i was schooled. i'm just surprised and i asked secretary summers about this, he answered me, he said, we were frankly, too austere. but i remember on president obama's watch when simpson-bowles seems like a likelihood of passage. and of course, it went nowhere. but debt and deficit were part of the conversation. amidst this subject doesn't get sufficient airing at least for my taste. i want to remind you, go to my website at smerconish.com. answer the survey question. i have no idea how this will turn out. do you agree or disagree from what you heard from president biden yesterday when it comes to
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new books about the end of the trump administration are coming out fast and tour use but despite a lot of hype about shocking and/or damning revelations will any of it change anybody's mind about the 45th president? in i alone can fix it by carol leonnig, we learned that mark milley feared that he could urge the armed forced to staig a coup. and frankly we did win this election, the inside story of how trump lost, we learned when news leaked that the president and his family had been taken to the white house underground bunker during the george floyd protests taking place in d.c.,
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he wanted him executed for treason. and trump's staff publicly pleaded with him to disavow the violence, he refused. and his daughter called an optic view. and then hammered bill barr for not prosecuting hunter biden or james comey. and this was before we gleaned any news of what "the washington post's" bob woodward or bob costa may have dug up in their collaboration of "the end of the trump era" that won't be out for another two months but does this news change anything? how concerned are the gop leaders about how the new revelations affected party and midterms. does any of it matter? probably not, as proven by house
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minority leader kevin mccarthy despite the speculation, making the trip to bedminster this week. joining me ron brownstein is also senior editor of "the atlantic." a month ago, rob, in "the atlantic" saying how the a torrent of new revelations is filling in the picture of how donald trump used and abused his authority. but the disclosures may serve only to underscore how little remains, et cetera. there's a heck of a lot that we don't know? >> that's the point, michael. there's so much we don't know. each time a book comes out with shocking revelations it really underscores that we do not have a full accounting of how trump used and abused presidential power while he was in office. and it's especially remarkable because he may seek to obtain that hour in 2024.
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our colleague said to me in that story that when nixon left office, we had a much better idea of the totality of the ways of which he abused the federal government. these revelations and disclosure about data and members of congress, all of this, i think, underscores that were need a much more systematic way of kind of understanding what he did, if for no other reason, than he may attempt to do it again. >> in another era, when revelations are brought forward, that the chair of the general -- the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff is concerned about a coup, a house minority leader would give pause before heading from washington, d.c., you know, north to bedminster, new jersey. but that didn't happen. what do you make of kevin mccarthy? >> look, the trump faction is the dominant wing in the gop. and it has shown itself in its behavior, that it is willing to subvert the basic pillars of american democracy, if that's
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what it takes to keep power. doesn't mean all republicans feel that way. but most are willing to go along with it or unwilling to challenge it. we see this not only in polls showing the majority of republicans, say, the traditional way of life in america, disappearing so fast and yet the forces are there. we see it, as you know in practice, in opposition of congress in the january 6th, the proliferation of state laws making it tougher to vote which are alluded in the and in the sham audit going on and the liz cheney and the refusal of people to dismiss extremism like marjorie taylor greene. all of the way they're signaling that they are willing to go down with trump. to me, the chief thing is not how it shapes that book over another book, but what does it do with 30% of republicans depending on the poll, since the
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election, and the parties have turned away from democratic principles, does this make them less willing to give their votes to leaders who are clearly inabling trump? >> ron, quickly. you just represented my views as well. maybe i'm wrong, came kendall in "the boston globe" talked about having been at the family leadership summit untin iowa. and speaking to 14 people who said i'm ready for something new. >> right. but he also spoke to the leaders in the party there who thought it would be very hard to beat trump if in fact he's in the race. >> true. >> don't forget, he's a very kinetic force in politics. if he was actually in there competing with other candidates, we don't know how it would go. right now, remains a dominant part of the party. most reject the allegations against him and believes he did nothing wrong after the
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election. and is acting on it, we'll get an idea when other figures like. as you see with kevin mccarthy's trip that is not the dominant factor. part of the issue in the 2022 election is whether democrats can make the argument that a republican-controlled congress can ease the way for a trump revival in 2024, even if that means subverting the genuine election results. >> rob brownstein, thank you as always. >> thank you, michael. >> checking in with tweets, from the world of twitter, what do you have, you're kidding if january 6th did nothing, this won't either. t.p., i'll piggyback on this, it
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resupposes that the base will be familiar with these revelations. you know they're not going to read the books. frankly, we've talked about it extensively here and so, too, dominant media platforms but this conversation reads no conversation whatsoever. it's like the voldemort of books have been published. i will want to remind to you go to smerconish.com. do you agree or disagree with what president biden said yesterday? they're killing people, when it comes to covid misinformation. still to come, universal basic income has had big name endorsers from martin luther king jr. and andrew yang. but is that about to change as americans are about to see a nice boost in their bank accounts?
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credit, also a form of guaranteed income. president biden has not said whether recurring direct payments will be a reality past december. but california may have paved the way for other states to give residents guaranteed monthly payment. michael tubbs is the former mayor of stockton, california, where he initiated a universal program to give parents 500 bucks for two years. he's current adviser of economic opportunity to gavin newsom. and he joins me now. thanks for being here. what did you find people did spend on in your stockton experiment? >> thank you so much for having me, and please everyone watching turn the volume up, i've said it 100 times, i'll say it 100 times more. folks spend the way like you and i spend money. they spend money on food and transportation.
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less than 1% of the money was spent on drugs and alcohol, but people really used the money as a springboard to opportunity. we saw that those who received the guaranteed income were actually two times more likely to move from part-time work to full-time work than those who did not receive the guaranteed income. we also saw those who received the guaranteed income were two times less likely to be an employee. but what it did is really allowed time and possibilities for people. i'm excited that you mentioned the tax credit that we have to make permanent. and also provided by the leadership in california by governor newsom in terms of providing state dollars to. what's happening throughout the state. >> michael, from 3,000 miles away, what most surprised me in california was the bipartisan nature of how this passed both of your houses? >> i am incredibly proud of the way that this passed bipartisan, and in bipartisan fashion, to
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your point, consistent with the polling which showed that the majority of americans, 55% are actually supportive of guaranteed income. and that includes one-third of republicans. many republicans live in the great state of california. i'm glad that we have a consensus in the legislature around this idea that we want folks to have the income, we don't need to have poverty. poverty does not actually serve our state law. >> will you respond to this from the president of the howard jarvis taxpayer's association, john cupule said guaranteed income programs are weather transfer from productive individuals who those who decide not to be productive, you've heard it before. what's the response? >> not true. during the pandemic, if you learned anything, it's the folks in the warehouses, it's the folks delivering packages, the
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folks doing our food, the folks doing the care work that makes the society run that are doing the work that makes us all productive. and oftentimes, those who work the hardest are paid the least. and not transferring it but making sure everyone benefits from the health in the country. we've seen in this country that billionaires have become billionaires to the point that they're building spaceships. it's ridiculous. howard jarvis, i hope at some time, he can focus on the data and facts and doing what's best for all of the people. >> all right. you had me up until the spaceships. i applaud those guys. i love it when the private sector takes initiative like that. michael tubbs, thank you for being here. >> i like space, too.
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