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[ siren ] cnn's jim acosta joins us now. jim, i guess you just happened to be there, and what did you see? what did you hear? >> reporter: yeah, anderson. i was having dinner at a restaurant that's very popular in d.c., le diplomat. people probably heard of it. it's on 14th street in northwest washington. and just a few blocks north of that at another restaurant called mexiq we believe there was some kind of of shooting that occurred here from what we understand from talking to d.c. pleels, about two people have been shot right now. i have personally looblgd. looked at video, anderson, of one gunshot victim being wheeled out of that restaurant on a stretcher with gunshot wounds in the chest. i personally also witnessed
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somebody who was on the ground being treated by first responders. i'm not sure why that person was being treated. but there was a blood stain on the car behind the person as he was leaning up against the car. we saw that ambulance speed out of the area very quickly. but anderson, this is a very popular, very -- you know, very well-traveled, pretty dense area of northwest washington, d.c. we're constantly seeing people in this area going up and down 14th street. and it's also pretty close to the white house. we're just five or six blocks from the white house. now, as far as this restaurant where this shooting apparently occurred, that also is a very popular restaurant in this area. so to hear gunshots in the area is very unsettling. i will say as i was sitting down to eat i heard about seven or eight gunshots. you could see in the video that i sent in people fleeing from
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those gunshots, running away from the gunshots, and up and down 14th street people were running away from the area. it was that kind of a situation. as you know, anderson, this comes on the heels of what we saw happen at nationals park the other night, the baseball stadium here in washington, d.c. where there were gunshots outside of that baseball park. and so you know, just within a few nights of one another you have two pretty jaw-dropping, unsettling situations in washington, d.c., the nation's capital. police have just moved us out of the area of the shooting. they've moved us back a block from the shooting. and it does appear more law enforcement authorities are coming to the scene, more cars are coming to the area. so homefully in a little while we'll have a better sense of what's going on. but a very popular area, well-traveled area of washington, d.c. shops, restaurants, grocery stores, all kinds of those sorts of things in the area.
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also big residential area. lots of homes in this area as well. we're lucky that more people weren't shot. >> jim, in the video that you showed us it looked like there were police cars there when there were still shots going on. so do you know, the shots we're hearing, do you know were police involved in a shooting? because it looked like the people running, it looks like there's flashing lights already. >> reporter: yeah. i will say the blue -- got here very quickly, within a matter of minutes. [ siren ] [ inaudible ] within a couple of minutes i would say a dozen or so police cars, ambulances were on the scene of this shooting incident. as i was saying, anderson, even though there may have been a couple of gunshot victims here, we heard a succession of a dozen to 15 i would say gunshots. pop, pop, pop, pop, pop. one after another.
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and that's what sent people fleeing up and down 14th street in washington, d.c. and i will tell you as somebody, i grew up in this area, i've worked in this city for a long time. this part of d.c. does not see this kind of crime, this kind of shooting activity. obviously other parts of d.c. you see this kind of crime, this kind of shooting activity. that's equally as important as what we're seeing tonight. but because of the density of the people walking around in this area, this had the potential to be very serious and to have many more casualties in the area. >> jim acosta, more to learn. we'll continue to follow the story throughout the hour. appreciate it. appreciate you being there. now covid and what the director of the cdc calls, quote, another pivotal moment in this pandemic. that's what dr. rochelle walensky put it today. reflects a new urgency from the white house on what's increasingly called -- on what is increasingly calling, the whouls, a pandemic of the unvaccinated. as the delta variant continues to spread at what is certainly an alarming rate. one administration official telling cnn, "we are seeing the consequences of what we've been warning about for a month. it's serious and it's spreading faster than was anticipated."
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so it's the ripple effect. just tonight philadelphia's health commissioner issued a strong recommendation for everyone, vaccinated or not, to wear a mask in public. chicago's school system announced that "masks will be worn by all in schools when classes begin next month." and this kind of public health recalibration has been happening in spots all across the country in recent days. joining us is dr. paul offit, director of the vaccine education center at children's hospital of philadelphia. doctor, what do you make of the reporting that the biden administration is shifting to a more urgent tone as the delta variant spreads and there's this troubling new phase? should there be new mask guidance? >> yes. i think that the delta variant has changed the game. the delta variant has a so-called reproduceability or contagi contagiousness index of 6 to 8. as i go through my day i'll infect 6 to 8 people and they'll infect 6 to 8 people. this virus is more contagious than influenza virus.
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it's one of the most contagious respiratory viruses. it's changed the game. it's a shame that we have had now for a while enough vaccine to vaccinate everybody in this country over 12 but we didn't do it. we have only about half the country vaccinated. we have probably about 100 million people, 35% of the population that's neither been vaccinated nor naturally infected so they're fully susceptible, fertile ground for this virus to spread. you're right, we're taking a step back to masking mandates and hopefully vaccine mandates. >> to be clear if 80% or 90% of the country had gotten this vaccine before the delta variant really took hold because the delta variant is what we saw in india but quickly came here and all around the world. it would be a different picture? >> that's right. and who have we really let down? i think in many ways we've let our children down because we don't have a vaccine for children 6 to 12 years of age. i'm not sure exactly when we'll have it. hopefully we'll have it before late fall, early winter when this virus will no doubt surge. it is a winter virus. so now we're talking about what to do in school, do we mandate
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vaccines for school, do we mandate masks for school. we wouldn't had to have been there had we handled this different. but there's a critical percentage of this population that simply doesn't want to get vaccinated. it's hard to watch. >> i'm a broken record now and again, it's because i've become a parent. but i think we have not focused on children enough because early on everybody said, well, look, kids aren't affected by this, it's no problem. so people who have chosen not to gept a vaccine probably don't even think that they are potentially harming children. but that is exactly -- i mean, children cannot choose to get vaccinated. they can't choose not to get -- they can't get vaccinated. >> right. i think when the virus first came into the country last march and started killing people, the mantra was this is a disease of older people. and that's true. 93% of the deaths were in people over 55. and the mantra was children get infected less frequently and when they're infected they're infected less severely, that's true. but children can still get infected. millions of children have been infected. more than 400 children have died. tens of thousands have been
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hospitalized. many have had this disease called multisystem inflammatory disease, at least 4,000, which can have long-term effects. children can suffer this disease and be hospitalized and killed. we don't have a vaccine for children less than 12 years of age yet and i think we failed our children in that we refused to vaccinate a critical percentage of this population and you're right i think about 80% to 90% would have done it. because as the virus gets more contagious you need to have a higher percentage of the population immune. >> as i mentioned both where you are in philadelphia and in chicago new mask recommend aipgss have gone out. the cdc has not updated their guidance. so can you -- there's a lot of confusion about this. does the cdc need to correct this? >> i think so. i think in fairness when you're indoors as we move forward now into fall and winter. when you're indoors i think you should wear masks. i think for children who go to school i think there should be a mask mandate because it's not fair for the schools or frankly for the businesses to determine who's vaccinated and who's not. so i think everybody should just wear a mask because when you
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wear a mask you really prevent the virus from entering your nose and throat and beginning to reproduce itself. that's not true, even if you're vaccinated and you don't wear a mask the virus can still begin to reproduce itself and cause asymptomatic or mild disease which is true i think more so with this delta variant which is a little more resistant to protection against a systematic or mild infection where you could still be contagious. >> dr. paul offit, i appreciate it. thank you very much. more on what sadly remains a political divide over the vaccine. as you know quite a few top republicans in politics and the media have changed their tone on getting vaccinated. that's certainly good. that said, listen to what republican congressman ronny jackson said when pressed by cnn along with other members of the republican doctors caucus on whether party members should share their vaccine status to encourage constituents to get the vaccine. >> i think that you as the press have a responsibility to ask questions of the democrats as well. how many of the democrats are willing to say whether or not they've been vaccinated? and what about the texas delegation from the texas house -- >> 100% said they're vaccinated. >> they've said that. including the six that tested positive. do we have any evidence of that?
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i highly doubt that those six people were all vaccinated and tested positive for this virus. so you guys need to -- >> i'm just telling you. >> so he was wrong, and they had the facts and he had to change it and he was wrong again. that guy is a medical doctor. he's a doctor who served the former president. it's remarkable what he's become. he's a politician now. cnn's ryan nobles. cnn has asked every single member of congress if they've been vaccinated. what have we learned? >> interesting. ronny jackson asking us to do the job that we had already done. you're absolutely right, anderson. it was a big project by many on our team to ask every single member of congress their vaccine status. almost every democrat in the house and senate save for one told us that they have been vaccinated. on the senate side 92% of republicans saying that they've received the vaccine. but on the house side a little under 50% refused to tell us one
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way or another whether or not they've received the vaccine and one member of congress, tommy massey, has gone so far as to say he refuses to get the vaccine. this something that is playing out definitively along party lines where you see some republicans even when they encourage others to take the vaccine unwilling to say if they themselves have taken that step. >> what reason -- it's pretty clear why they would say this. yes, obviously some may just believe that health care decisions should remain secret. that's certainly their right. but if this was popular among their constituents in some of these very conservative districts, i'm sure they would be very up front about the fact that they have gotten vaccinated. what reasons have some of these republican members given for either not getting vaccinated or not responding? >> reporter: you hit the nail right on the head. the overwhelming reason that they give for not disclosing their vaccine status is citing their own privacy rights. marjory taylor greene, for instance, of georgia repeatedly
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declares that hipaa prevents her from telling us whether or not she has been vaccinated. which isn't 100% true. but they just say it's a personal choice whether they want to reveal that. but when you talk to many of these lawmakers privately, both republican and democrat, they really point to the political repercussions. in some of these heavily red districts that voted overwhelmingly for the former president donald trump the vaccines remain unpopular. not just hesitancy here. there are people that truly believe the vaccine is a big problem and as a result these republican politicians don't want to in any way, shape or form endure the wrath of their constituents by admitting they've been vaccinated. there's a good chance that many of them actually have been vaccinated but they've chosen not to do so because of their constituents. and just one example, anderson, is the house minority whip steve scalise. he's the second ranking republican. he waited until just last week to get the vaccine and didn't really have a good explanation as to why. >> ryan nobles, appreciate it. thanks. joined by andy slavitt president biden's former senior adviser for covid response.
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he's also the author of "preventable: the inside story of how leadership failures, politics and selfishness doomed the u.s. coronavirus response." mr. slavitt, i mean, that is the thing that is so frustrating about this, is that this was preventable and that this delta variant, you know, the toll it's taking and is going to take could have been prevented had more people been vaccinated. we just heard about the change in some republicans when it comes to their public messaging about the vaccine, and that's certainly to be applauded. last night in our town hall president biden said that some in right-wing media had a, quote, altar call when it comes to vaccine. should republican leadership be doing more within their own ranks to help bring people around? >> you know, i think when you play politics with the vaccine you're playing with fire and you're playing with you're own constituents' lives. so it would make a hell of a lot of sense to do what sean hannity did. and look, they can be people that disagree with me or with you or their democratic colleagues on everything else. but if they come out and said
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you know what, getting vaccinated is sensible. and talking aggressively against the people and calling out the people in their party that are making political hay of it. they would be wise. and the republican governors are generally speaking a good example. governor justice in west virginia who said if you're not vaccinated you're part of the problem. that is a good example. that should be called out and it should happen more often. >> according to the cdc, 57% of those eligible are fully vaccinated in the united states. given those percentages and the vigor of the delta variant, what more does the administration need to be doing right now? >> well, it was great to see in the town hall last night that president biden is not willing to quit, not willing to leave any american behind and willing to continue to make the case. now, it's going to take more than him to make the case. it's going to take getting very aggressive about particularly younger people, people under 25. i think as they return to school
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presumably at full fda approval we should be really seriously considering whether schools, workplaces, government agencies ought to be talking about saying hey, if you're coming here you need to be vaccinated and if you're not you need to show you've got a negative test every single day. and then we need to just get better information to people. and as the fda makes this final approval, all the people that have been on the fence, and there are some people that are still on the fence, we need to take the case to them and say the jury is in, the fda has done rigorous work, they've taken a long time, a very long time, and now it's time for you to review this information and make the right decision. >> just so i'm clear, employers are allowed to decide everybody who works here has to be vaccinated, right? >> absolutely. and look, if people say they don't want to be vaccinated, which some people might say, it's perfectly reasonable to say that's fine, but we'd like you to show up every morning an hour
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before work and get a negative test, maybe even at your own expense, until the point where people will say you know what, it makes more sense to actually get vaccinated. so if you give people that option, i think you're going to see more and more people take the option to get vaccinated. >> andy slav itd, i appreciate your time. thank you. coming up next, the mask mandate in los angeles county, the nation's most populated, and the sheriff who says he will not enforce it. he joins us to talk about why not. and later, will democrats decide to go it alone on the president's infrastructure plans? we'll talk to one democratic senator about it. ♪ ♪ ♪ security at your fingertips. control feels good. chase. make more of what's yours. new dove men, plant based body wash is different. with plant based cleansers. and moisturizers for healthy and hydrated men, skin, relax your body and mind, shower with new dove men. vo: the climate crisis is here.
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this past week los angeles county became the first major county to once again require mask wearing for all people indoors in public spaces. soon after our next guest, l.a. county sheriff alex villanueva, said he would not enforce the mandate. sheriff villanueva joins us now. thanks so much for being with us. i appreciate it. the guests in my last block, the director of the vac zone
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education center at the children's hospital of philadelphia, says everyone should be wearing masks indoors. the cdc has not, as you know, updated their gieps. but it is a mandate in your county. why are you saying you won't enforce it? >> well, one is practical terms. first of all, the physical ability to enforce it is not there. i have a district attorney that does not enforce anything in terms of prosecution. so exactly what we're doing. we're going to get into conflicts with business owners and people going to go to these places, these different businesses, and we're not going to get involved in that conflict because at the end of the day there is no prosecution that's going to be made of it. so it becomes pointless. but on the practical side i have 40% of the county residents who have not vaccinated and they really don't want to go there. so kaiser family foundation a survey they did in january said there's three elements needed to get everybody vaccinated. one is faith that it's safe to get vaccinated. which i think we've covered that. number two is that you have
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encouragement from doctors, families and friends to take the vaccination. which is very good. but item number three is very, very important. there has to be some perceived benefit to taking the vaccine. if i treat everybody the same, the people that resist are going to say why bother because i'm still being forced to wear the mask. it doesn't make sense from a practical standpoint. >> you enforce seat belts, though. right? >> we enforce seat belts only as a result of when we need to for other traffic reasons. but we don't go out there pulling everybody over without a seat belt. that's where we use discretion because obviously we have extremely limited resources to enforce the law. >> originally you issued a statement saying the mask mandate which was issued by the department of public health was not backed by science. do you think the science is there now? i understand the practicality argument. that i totally get. you have limited resources. i understand that argument. on the science argument, though, do you think it's wise for people to wear masks indoors? >> unfortunately, i'm going to
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follow the guidance from the cdc. when they get to that point, they decide -- but l.a. county is notoriously for getting it wrong. from their handling of the pandemic from the very beginning they've made bad call after bad call. they used a sledgehammer when a scalpel would have sufficed. they destroyed businesses by the tens of thousands. so their advice i always take it with a grain of salt because it's not what is needed at the moment. we're going to stick to the science. and actually, this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated. so the best thing we can do is encourage the unvaccinated to get vaccinated. i've been fully vaccinated since january. my entire family's been vaccinated. i would encourage everybody to get that vaccination. >> right. >> that should be our goal right now. and we get into these conflicts, we're creating conflicts unnecessarily that does not improve the vaccination rate. >> right. i understand that you're right, it is as you say a pandemic of the unvaccinated. though the unvaccinated include children and people who are -- adults who are not vaccinated,
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have chosen not to get vaccinated. they are a threat to children, are they not? >> they can be, very sure. and that's why we have to start looking at other things, ipgz steps we can take, for example schools when you get to high school level, do we want to impose a vaccination requirement. we have for other communicable diseases that we've done in the fast -- >> i know, but i'm talking about children under 12. as you know, they cannot get vaccinated. so adults right now who are not vaccinated are a threat to children who cannot be vaccinated. so isn't wearing masks indoors the only way to protect children? >> well, no. it's not the only way. the best way to protect children is get people vaccinated. let's cross the finish line. >> right. but that's a finish line which is half the country hasn't done it yet. so obviously that should obviously be the focus. but in the meantime the only way to protect children from the unvaccinated, adults who have chosen not to be vaccinated, is for those adults to be wearing
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masks indoors. isn't it? and you can't determine who's been vaccinated and who hasn't. so doesn't everyone have to wear masks indoors? i mean, there's this mandate now. >> well, we have vaccine passports. we have a card issued to everybody that got the -- >> but you're not checking those. >> we can determine -- >> you're not checking those. >> well, we can start checking them. >> but you just said you're underfunded -- if you can't enforce a mask mandate, you can enforce going around checking people's vaccination certificates? >> that is up to each establishment to do that. we're not going to do the job for them. >> you just said we so -- okay. >> when you buy booze in a liquor store and you have to show your i.d., that's the establishment enforces abc laws for liquor, do they not? >> yeah. >> it's the same principle. >> so your officers, do they wear masks indoors? >> yes, they do. >> do you know the vaccination rate among your force? >> among my force our vaccination rate is right around 60%. >> why not -- would you consider making it mandatory?
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>> that is something i have to discuss with the unions. it's a meet and con fehr issue. and that is something all the coalition is going to have to discuss with the board of supervisors. and that is a step we'll have to see. >> l.a. county sheriff alex villanueva. i appreciate what you do. thank you very much, sir. >> you got it. >> just weeks until the august recess and congress still can't come to agreement on an infrastructure bill. among many other unresolved items on its agenda. democratic senator richard blumenthal on whether it will get done, next. (upbeat pop music in background throughout)
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opposition to the january 6th. th commission. when questioned will another republican join after party leadership boycotted the house select committee. and then there's the bipartisan infrastructure bill. major issues unresolved. one of the bipartisan negotiators, republican senator susan collins, said her group is close to finalizing an agreement. and then questions about whether. whether democrats can unify for a separate reconciliation bill. plus lingering questions about the filibuster after president biden said during a cnn town hall last night that ending it could result in chaos. democratic senator richard blumenthal joins us now. thanks for being here, senator. i wanted to get your reaction first of all to the latest on the investigation into january 6th, about to get started on the
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house side. speaker pelosi reportedly now considering naming gop congressman adam kinzinger to join the committee. would you support that move? >> i would support that move and any other move that makes that select committee as bipartisan as possible. keep in mind, anderson, that speaker pelosi wanted to appoint a 9/11 type commission that would be virtually evenly divided among republicans and democrats. non-political members and as objective and impartial as possible. the house approved it. by bipartisan vote. unfortunately, it was scuttled in the senate. only six republicans voted for it. i think it was a missed opportunity. so whether it's adam kinzinger or others who would be willing to be constructive, unlike jim jordan and jim banks, who wanted to weaponize it for political purposes, and i think the speaker was right to in effect disqualify them. >> liz cheney obviously and
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congressman kinzinger have been very vocal in their criticism of the former president. obviously, they are both republicans. i would of said in good standing. though clearly with this current republican party they are not in good standing. do you think comprising the committee exclusively with democrats and a few republicans who have broken with the former president, does that undermine its effectiveness? certainly among the republicans out in the country. >> i think its effectiveness will depend on its integrity and its seeking the truth as vigorously as possible and then speaking the truth. i'm encouraged by the selection of the staff director, david buckley, who is a trained, experienced law enforcement professional, former inspector general for the cia. i think its work product will be the basis for judging it. and i continue to be haunted, anderson, by what i saw and heard on january 6th.
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it wasn't a protest. it wasn't a demonstration. it was an assault that caused death and injury. we went back to count the vote, many of my colleagues, over shattered glass and even blood. we need to get to the bottom, and i think its work product will be what distinguishes it. >> looking at infrastructure, the president saying in our cnn town hall last night that although the well has been so poisoned in his words over the past four years he still believes a bipartisan deal can happen. how confident are you of that and do you see -- what's the time frame? because senator schumer, he says it will hopefully happen for the august recess. >> anderson, i never say i am confident about anything when i'm talking about an outcome in the united states senate. but i'm more hopeful than ever. in part because the deadline yesterday and the vote even though it was fewer than 60 votes showed, number one, ounit among democrats and it also showed how serious and resolute
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we are about going it alone if we need to do it. and i think it has spurred negotiates r negotiations. i think the bipartisan group is closer than ever on for example pay force. but i also visited the white house today on a separate matter and i was very encouraged by how upbeat members of the white house staff are. so i think we have a historic opportunity. i think it has to be a higher number through budget resolution. the method that we have. reconciliation, 51 votes. higher number for rail, for example. tens of billions more for rail, which affects the northeast. but bottom line, i think we have a very, very serious and hopeful prospect of a bipartisan deal and a very robust and strong resolution to increase it even further and take care of those human needs, the human infrastructure. >> the president said last night he didn't want to get in his
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words wrapped up in the filibuster, that could send congress into chaos if it was ended. you said you want to reform the filibuster, to hopefully one day abolish it completely. how critical do you think reform is in helping things like voting rights legislation get passed? there is no gop support for voting rights. democrats don't have the votes to overcome the 60-vote filibuster. >> i chaired a subcommittee on the constitution and the judiciary committee which showed overwhelmingly how the tsunami of republican vote suppression laws in states around the country are having an effect. and i am persuaded we need to abolish or radically reform the filibuster. and just to put it in a little bit of historical perspective, when i first came to the senate, ten years ago, one of my very first votes coincidentally was to abolish the filibuster. only 11 other senators voted in
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that way. and what i've seen over these past ten years is that one by one my colleagues -- it's abused and misused and they've come around to the same point of of view, that it has to be radically reformed, it must be reformed to do voting rights and other critical legislation. >> senator blumenthal, i appreciate your time. thank you. >> thank you. >> coming up next, we're learning more about a shooting at a washington, d.c. restaurant, a very busy part of town. a live update next. ♪ ♪ ♪ born to be wild ♪ see disney's jungle cruise. applebee's and a movie, now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood. new projects means new project managers. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. the moment you sponsor a job on indeed you get a short list of quality candidates from our resume database. claim your seventy five dollar credit, when you post your first job at indeed.com/home. there's an america we build
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oroweat small slice. i wonder if this has the same quality ingredients as the original whole grains bread? great question, dad. and it does. it has all the same nutritious deliciousness as the original slice but only a little bit smaller. just like timmy here. my name's lucas. oroweat small slice. i wonder if this has the same quality ingredients as the original whole grains bread?
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great question, dad. and it does. it has all the same nutritious deliciousness as the original slice but only a little bit smaller. just like timmy here. my name's lucas. d.c. metro police have just put out a tweet on the shooting in an especially well traveled neighborhood. shooting at 14 g9 street and riggs street northwest. lookout is for a black male wearing a lime green yellow hood sweater fleeing in older black honda civic with d.c. tags, last seen eastbound toward s street northwest. i'll go back to cnn's jim acosta who was just steps away when it hamid, has been reporting from the scene ever since. do we know what actually happened? >> reporter: anderson, i think we're st. louis trying to get some answers. but i will tell you i talked to
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somebody who witnessed what happened earlier this evening. this happened about 8:20 this evening here in northwest washington on 14th street, as you sailed, a pretty popular area with a lot of restaurants, bars, clubs, and at 8:20 p.m. i heard gunshots in this area. came up to the scene. and from what i understand there were shots fired in the vicinity of the mexicue restaurant at 14th and riggs. that intersection you just mentioned. there were at least two gunshot victims we know of. i saw a video from a witness of one of those gunshot victims being carried out on a stretcher. that victim was i amman who had two gunshot wounds in the chest. i talked to a witness who saw some of this unfold earlier this evening. this witness said he saw what appeared to be a black missn pull up to the scene, a gun
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barrel coming out of that car and then shots being fired at what he described as kids but i think he meant teenagers. and then people went in all directions. people went running in all directions. i can tell you from the restaurant where i was having dinner people got up out of their seats at their tables and started running away from the scene. that was happening. that was playing out up and down 14th street. so obviously people were terrified in this area, trying to flee these gunshots that rang out in what is usually a very safe area of washington, d.c. yes, there are things like this that happen from time to time in this part of d.c. but you just don't see this very often in this area, anderson. >> jim acosta, i appreciate it. thank you very much. coming up, the story of a frontline nurse in arkansas who's helped covid patients who's facing what she describes as a torrent of insults and lies for just doing her job. that's next. when heartburn hits, fight back fast with tums chewy bites.
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endures what she says is a torrent of verbal abuse for just doing her job. as a result she's actually taken to social media to try to fight back. cnn's ellie reeve has our story. >> puppies. >> it was extremely difficult to watch so many people die and then have people tell you, you know, on facebook or in walmart that you're a liar. >> reporter: son yil worked on a covid floor of a hospital at the height of the pandemic. being a nurse was hard, but what made it surreal was living in western arkansas where many people, even some in her own family, said covid was overblown, just the flu. >> thursdays were really the symbol for this whole pandemic, and almost all of the hate has centralized around us. i've just got ptsd. a lot of us are suffering from it from last year, and now we're having people come in and look us in the face and be like no, i didn't get the vaccine and now i'm sick. >> reporter: arkansas has the third lowest covid-19
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vaccination rate in the country. just 36% of the population is fully vaccinated. like many places with low vaccination rates it's now seeing a spike in cases. >> are you going to get the vaccine? >> i have not and i will not. i'm not a guinea pig. there's no chance. >> you got covid? >> i did. but then after i got over covid i had a heart attack. >> so why would you not get the vaccine? >> i might have a bad reaction to it. >> i see. >> i believe that it's a freedom issue. and i've worn a mask probably a maximum of one hour in the entire whole since the covid came out. if it's so communicable, why am i still standing? >> we had people accuse us of giving their loved ones something else so that they would die and we could report it as covid. we heard it more than once that we were just fudging the numbers and we were killing people on purpose to make covid look like it was worse than it was or to
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make it look real when it wasn't. >> for the first majority of the pandemic we wore the same n95 for like one to two weeks at a time. >> tell >> i think it suck. >> why? >> so, they dubbed us healthcare heroes. it just -- it gave the public this really wrong impression that we were sacrificial lambs, and -- and willing to die for them. we want to help people. you know, i want to save lives. i want people to get better, but not, you know, at the expense of my family's lives, either. then, you have the public going, well, you signed up for this. no, i didn't. when i was 17, i enlisted in the army. i knew that i might die for my country. when i was 22 and went to nursing school, that wasn't on the agenda, you know, like, i didn't volunteer to die for everybody. and even with the vaccine, now, it's still a highly politicized thing for no good reason. >> reporter: last year, sunny started venting on tiktok. >> you're just trying to spread fear. if that's what it takes to get you to listen to me, sure.
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>> i had avoided posting about covid, for a long time, because of the negative reactions i got. like, it hurts my feelings. but, just a couple weeks ago, i had people in my inboxes threatening to kill me, calling me a murderer saying i helped kill those people. i get called a crisis actor, all the time. it's my thing now to respond to hate comments with, for just $10 into my venmo account, i will tell you the truth about covid and crisis acting. i made about $100 so. >> like really? >> people send you $10 and you like yeah, i'm not a crisis actor. >> hello, i'm just like crisis acting isn't real and covid is real. surprise. to tell you the truth not the truth you wanted to hear but, you know. >> reporter: sunny says dark jokes bring some relief from a darker reality, like that her own health is at risk. her fellow nurse, hazel bailie, got covid last august, and was on a ventilator for 42 days. >> it's real. covid's real. i nearly died from it. and will, probably, have issues
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from it for the rest of my life. i have family that, they believe that it's real but, they're not concerned with taking the vaccine. they understand some people get it, and it's not bad. but i got it, and it was bad. and now, we're seeing this new variant hit and -- and it's re really hitting arkansas. sorry. my sister hasn't had the vaccine. >> reporter: sunny says that recently, covid patients have been telling her they got it at church. this week, arkansas had its biggest spike in cases, since february. and it has the worst-case rate in the country. the state is offering vaccination incentives, like free-lottery tickets. it hasn't convinced many. did anyone you know get covid? >> my son had covid. >> how old is he? >> 8. >> wow. so that's, like, pretty rare for, like, a young kid.
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what -- what was that like? >> he's sick a lot. he's been sick for a while and he is still sick so going to have to get him looked at and see if there's further damage. i don't know. i mean, because he got real sick. fever, every day, for weeks. >> are you guys going to get the vaccine? >> no. no vaccine. >> how come? >> i just don't trust the government. >> are you going to get the vaccine? >> absolutely not. our kids are not going to get it. none of us. >> how come? >> i mean, i figure i just let the world work its natural ways. >> okay. >> ain't taken none of the vaccines ever. >> are you able to get like religious exemptions at schools for your kids? is that how? >> no, i mean, we take the stuff if you have to. >> so what do you mean when you say you don't usually get vaccines? >> we didn't do the pig thing or whatever that was. we didn't do any of the befores. it's something that i don't -- i don't believe in. you know, i haven't never. it seems it only comes about every presidency and seems like it's either crowd control or whatever you want to call it but i want my family have nothing to do with it. we have always been healthy and just seems to work better, that way.
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>> reporter: not everyone around here feels this way. >> i think you need to get it because it's not only helping you, it can help your whole family. everybody around you. it's better to take a chance on the side than it is to take a chance on the covid. cowboy up and go in there and get a shot, and come out of there like a grownup, you know? >> come here. >> one of my biggest fears with like this new wave of dough covid, we are seeing a lot of nurses with compassion fatigue and i am really scared how that is going to play out because a lot of the cases we are seeing are nonvaccinated individuals. if i had a patient come in that wasn't vaccinated with covid, obviously, i'm still going to treat them to the best of my ie ability. but i do know some nurses had to quit because they just don't have it in them to do that. a lot of kansans would give the shirt off their back to help you out for a stranger, you know. i think a lot of people being anti-covid and anti-vaccine is just a product of the way that we were raised here. but they're not bad people. >> and elle reeve joins us now.
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that was such a great piece. i really appreciate you just talking to folks. and i -- what -- the thing that really struck me, hearing that mom, whose 8-year-old got covid, and was sick for, she said, weeks. and -- and still and they're going to take him to the doctor to see if there's anything to be done. um, and yet, she would not get vaccinated. i mean, that's -- that's a tough hurdle. if -- if people are that set to not get vaccinated, i'm not sure where we go. >> yeah. that story stuck with us, and the rest of the crew, we talked about it the whole time we were in arkansas. um, last fall, public-health experts told us that some of the skepticism about covid and the vaccine would fade away when people's loved ones started getting sick. but for the people in arkansas we talked to, that just wasn't the case. so, for example, hazel bailie, the nurse who was on a vent, after we did the interview with her, we talked to her sister. and her sister said that hazel
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coming home alive was the christmas present that she prayed for. but she, also, said that she couldn't give an interview because her thoughts on the vaccine were not fit for television. >> wow. elle reeve, i really appreciate what you do. really like it. thank you very much. we'll be right back. you've been taking mental health meds, and your mind is finally in a better place. except now you have uncontrollable body movements called tardive dyskinesia - td. and it can seem like that's all people see.
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the news continues. want to turn things over now, to don, for "don lemon tonight." don. this is "don lemon tonight." i want to be done with this pandemic, and i know you do, too. i just got back from the heart of this country, where i hosted a town hall with our president. reporting on all the issues that are facing this country, right now. covid, voting rights, crime, jobs. there are many. and as i traveled back and forth, it occurred to me, i am masking up, again. i'm taking more precautions, again. i'm vaccinated. but because half of us aren't, and because the kids can't, we're backsliding. this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated. cases are on the rise, all across the country. some hospitals are running out