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that's it for us, tonight. together, as ever, as one. we'll get through this pandemic. it's never been more true, than now. lucky for you, on a friday night, you get the upgrade, laura coates, in for don lemon on "don lemon tonight." good to see you, counselor. >> good to see you, too. you know, it's my ten-year wedding anniversary. so i'm so -- you know, i love being here. but shout-out to my husband. happy anniversary, as well. >> shout-out to your husband. thank god and blessings to you, both, for finding a way to stay together. we all know it's work. we know it's not easy. ten years is a beautiful milestone. >> it is, indeed. and he's cute, so it helps. >> of course, he is. of course, i would expect no

less. so, let me ask you a quick take. obviously, have tons of news tonight. simone biles has decided to withdraw from the event finals for vault and uneven bars which means she is not out of everything, but she is now out of vault and uneven bars. continue to be evaluated, daily, to determine whether to compete in the finals for floor and beam. um, resonance of this issue, in terms of creating acceptance that health is health and pain is pain? >> i mean, it's okay to take that time for yourself. she doesn't owe anybody anything. and frankly, you know, selfishly, do i want to see simone biles compete? she is the best there is when it comes to gymnastics, arguably in all athletics. she is incredible and i want to see her perform, but not if it's going to cost her something personally. not if it's going to endanger her. and, look, you and i, in the business we're in, if we have some sort of mental block. if we have some sort of intellectual twisties, we might lose our train of thought. this is a very dangerous sport. if she, truly, is -- has -- is

facing that, she could risk her life. it's not worth it if that's what it is going to take. i know she probably wants to perform at the best of her abilities and if she is not ready, she doesn't owe america anything. >> my argument would be she is helping america, more, by this conversation than she would be by the golds. it'd be great for her. i hope she gets back, and is able to do it. but it's just because we can't see the pain. if she were walking with a limp around the rest of the team, this wouldn't be a conversation. you know, hey, the -- the doctors tested her out today. she's not ready to go. she can't land anything. you see her kind of fall on one of the landings. but when you can't see the pain, people judge it. and i think that's a shame. but i think she's doing more for this country, by getting this conversation going than she would even by bringing home more golds. >> i mean, well, in a way, she already brought gold in by having the spotlight on this. i mean, think about it. she said, look, i am going to put myself first. i have an issue that i want to resolve. it's personal. she, also, has opened the door for is so many other stellar athletes to compete, now, at a level and a caliber that they --

they, perhaps, were not accustomed to doing so. she has made the decision. she did it very -- in a very mature way. people are going to, constantly, question her strength. they are going to question whether she is truly a champion but they don't know what she is going through for the reasons that you are talking about. they don't know what it's like for her. she's been the face of united states gymnastics which we know has been plagued by issues, partially of their own making by abuse, by molestation allegations, somebody's actually been now convicted. she has been the brave face of that. she's competed with broken toes. she has given us so much. i think that she is entitled to having time to herself. and that represents, frankly, the best of what an athlete really is. somebody, who knows their strength. they know ntheir weaknesses, an they will make decisions in the interest of their sport. bravo to simone biles. i do wish i could see her. my daughter was looking forward to seeing her, a black woman in this position. my son, as well. i wish she was there but she is there and now it's a better conversation with my kids than

simply applauding her athleticism. >> and you know what? i bet you people follow. i bet you, you start to see people, you know what? i'm not up to this and i don't want to become a story, where two years from now, you guys are all talking about how i fell apart because i did something that i was really too hurting to do. i look forward to watching the show, as always, and i appreciate your insights. happy anniversary and here is to 50 more. >> thank you, that's very sweet. i will still have the same hair color, 50 years from now. thank you so much. this is "don lemon tonight." i'm laura coates, in for don. in a week that began with the banner headline that this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated, and everyone else could just go on with passes for a normal life, these days. well, now, that's turned upside down. let me be clear. what we have learned, in the last 24 hours, makes getting vaccinated even more essential, than ever before. vaccination makes it less likely you will catch covid, in the first place. and also, vaccinated people are

far less likely to end up in the hospital or die. however, a new-cdc study shows the delta variant produced similar amounts of virus in vaccinated and unvaccinated people, if they got infected. so, fully-vaccinated people with breakthrough infections could, actually, spread the virus, just as easily as unvaccinated people. all that, as president joe biden is telling americans to expect new guidelines and restrictions, as the delta variant spreads. but the good news, vaccinations are heading back up. >> should americans expect more guidelines coming out? more restrictions because of covid? >> in all probability. by the way, we had a good day yesterday. almost a million people got vaccinated. about half a million of those people, for the first time. and so, i am hopeful that people are beginning to realize how essential it is to move. >> the white house stressing

vaccines still the answer. and urging more people to roll up their sleeves. >> our message has always been clear. throughout. we need more people to get vaccinated to stop the spread of this variant. and so, we have to continue to make that effort. >> dr. anthony fauci says the virus has changed and, well, we've got to keep up. >> i think the simplest way to get people to understand is that we are dealing with a different virus. the delta virus has characteristics that's different than the alpha variant and other variants we've dealt with. so, when someone says the war has changed, what it really means, the virus has changed. and we have got to keep up, in our understanding. and what our policies are, related to the fact that we're dealing, now, with a more formidable virus. >> the delta variant is spreading in hot spots across

the entire country. places, like florida, where covid cases have now jumped 50% over the last week, alone. and the cdc says everyone in schools, vaccinated or unvaccinated, should wear a mask. and yet, florida governor, ron desantis, has now signed an executive order to ensure that there will be no mask mandates in schools. >> floridians have been, are, and will remain free to choose what's best for themselves and their families. >> freedom? freedom to send children to school without masks, in a state where covid cases just jumped, by 50%? some freedom. with a but all this talk of freedom is just playing to the base. telling your voters exactly what they want to hear. the spread of this virus is a pretty big price to pay, and a pretty hideous toll of the

pandering and the misinformation in our society. and, look, if -- if we're going to get a grip on this, we're going to need to stick to the facts. stick to the science. and stop wasting our time with political stunts. and -- and here's an example of what i mean by a political stunt. senator marco rubio, also, i should point out, from the state of florida, tweeting a video of defense secretary lloyd austin arriving in the philippines, masked and wearing a face shield. calling it, quote, embarrassing covid theater. now, here's the problem with that. well, there are actually several problems with that. the embassy telling "politico" the philippine government mandates that everyone must wear full-coverage face shields, together, with face masks, in public places. but that wasn't good enough for the senator, who went on to tweet, i guess, the face shield mandate was lifted shortly after he landed. along with some pictures of the secretary, without a face

shield. now, at least two of those pictures were not even taken in the philippines. so, like i said, if we're going to get a grip on this virus and what it's doing to us, we're going to have to stop wasting our time with political stunts. i want to bring in william haseltine, who is a former professor at harvard medical school. professor, nice to see you, this evening. you know, president -- president biden is telling reporters the -- the u.s. -- that in all probability, we could see more guidelines in restrictions. and i'm wondering, what would those look like? what could that look like, professor? >> well, we're already seeing that many businesses, and schools where they can, are requiring people to be vaccinated. that is one thing that is happening. it may happen to our entire military. and it may happen to many, other organizations. so, that's, i think, the first

thing that will happen. there is increasing requirements for masks, and i think that is going to be happening. but it's really clear why this is happening. as dr. fauci said, this is not the virus we knew, before. this is a much more serious virus. it's much more easily transmitted. and if you get it, no matter what your age, from age 3 to age 90, it's going to be worse for you. and you're going to be able to transmit it to other people, much, much more easily. >> when the information is all there, professor, and also cdc director rochelle walensky. she is taking her message and what you are talking about, as well, to fox. where we have seen, frankly, so much misinformation during this entire pandemic. take a listen to this. >> the science continues to change. and while that is, neither, simple, nor easy to convey, it's my responsibility to keep the american people safe.

and as that science evolves, i evolve with our -- with the cdc, the guidance. what i will say is i continue to be humbled by this virus. i have no interest in continuing mask -- um -- guidance. um, and the best way to stop a new variant from spreading is to have less virus out there. and the best way to do that is to get people vaccinated, and to mask up until they are. >> well, you know, first of all, bravo, to her, for going to the people who really need to hear this, the most. but -- but will they be more swayed by all the stories that we are seeing of people who, frankly, refuse the vaccine, almost died as a result, and say that they regret not getting that vaccine? which is going to be more persuasive? >> well, we're always more persuaded by our neighbors and our friends. and what's happening to them. and unfortunately, 95,000 of our fellow americans were infected yesterday.

# and if you just do the simple math, that means 1 to 2,000 of them are going to die, two or three weeks from now. that is a terrible number and it's totally unnecessary. but let me say that, what they are saying is this is not the same war we were fighting before. this is a war, which is going to last a long time. it's not like putting out a forest fire. it's like climate change. it's here to stay, and it's gonna take a long time. and we have to have many, different ways of confronting it. vaccines are, by far, the best. but they're not the only way. the countries that relied on vaccine, we've seen, we're having troubles. the countries that rely on border controls and contact tracing. they're having trouble. countries that are hoping that drugs will come along are, still, hoping. we need every part of this society working, together. i call it multimodal covid control. don't rely, only, on vaccines. use your sense and do the best

you can with public health. and put a lot of money into research. we are behind the eight ball, in terms of research needed to find more and more powerful vaccine because what do we need? we need vaccines that are better than the ones we have. i'm convinced we can get them. i've seen data that says very promising ones on the horizon. we need drugs. that the moment you think you are exposed, you take a pill so you never get sick. we now have those pills which most people don't even know about. if your kid comes home with flu, you pop one pill, the chances are very small that you'll get it. we need those drugs. we've been behind the eight ball for far too long. we have got to catch up, and we've got to use every tool at our disposal because the virus we're seeing today, as bad as it is, is not as bad as it can get. >> and, of course, professor, when you think about using every tool at your disposal. about research and development. about all those things. that does require us to at least have control over the existing

problem, as opposed to having to be reactive as opposed to the proactive measures you are speaking about. but there's that combination you speak of that's going to be invaluable, and it starts with something as basic as following the guidelines, taking the vaccine. and i want you to know, in chicago as you know, they are hosting lollapalooza, which is a multiday music festival. you have got thousands of people who are gathering together. is this dangerous, given what we know about the delta event? even -- even though this event is outdoors and they are requiring vaccination or proof of testing? and by the way, starting tomorrow, masks in indoor spaces in chicago. is this, still, dangerous, based on what we know? >> i think it is dangerous and we now know something very simple. if you could smell somebody else's tobacco smoke, you can catch their virus. you think about that, for a minute. how many times have you walked down the street and smelled tobacco smoke outside? that is what this virus is doing. it wasn't true, for the earlier

viruses. this virus, you produce a lot more virus and it's a lot more infectious, per virus. it is about ten-times more infectious than it was, before. you know, you do it by -- you know, whatever you want. people say chickenpox, versus something like a cold or something else. this is really serious, what's going on now. you can catch it, and people have caught it outside in outside venues. so, it's -- you should be wearing masks. the moment you get together with a bunch of people, you should be wearing a mask. and an n95 mask, at that. >> professor haseltine, thank you for your advice and counsel. i appreciate it. >> well, thank you, laura. you know, you ever been sending us your questions on covid. so next, we'll get answers from a top doctor.

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the new cdc document revealing just how transmissible the delta variant really is. and with children not, yet, able to get coronavirus vaccines, parents are facing tough choices when their kids head back to school, including parents like me. joining me now to discuss, an

infectious disease epidemiologist and director of the special pathogens program at nyc health and hospital. so, doctor, i'm so glad you're here. thank you. >> thanks for having me on. >> now, listen. i put out the call on twitter, and i was asking people for their most pressing questions on what the delta variant means for keeping their families safe. especially, children. and -- and one viewer, asking this question, doc. with the school year just around the bend, and some reports of the delta variant being more contagious to children than the alpha variant, should we be concerned and/or thinking about keeping our kids home from school? now, you have young kids. so do i. they're not old enough, yet, to get the vaccine. mine are 7 and 8. what's the answer? >> yeah. well, i think there's a couple of different ways to answer that. first, it's on your own, personal risk tolerance. but what we have seen is that if schools implement the various layer lay

layered mitigation strategies like having universal masking, having testing, isolation, quarantine. all those different measures play a significant role in reducing the number of infections that we'll see in schools. and so, i think that if we're able to have a consistent use of these mitigation measures, we can make school -- in-person schooling safe. and it's very important that we, still, stick to in-person schooling because if we're looking at some of the data and the studies coming out and the risk-benefit analysis. there's been some really significant harm to children that have to do schooling remotely. you know, it's the mental-health toll it's taking. the educational toll. the setbacks. so i think we can make schools safe, even in the context of delta, if we consistently apply the -- the mitigation measures that we have in place. >> okay. well, another viewer is asking this question. they're asking, um, when will children under 12 be able to get the vaccine? i mean, that would really be a game changer. so what can you tell us about that timing? >> so, i think, for all the different age groups and the brackets that we have. so, for example, six months, all

the way up to age, you know, 12 will have, likely, a covid-19 vaccine authorized for, you know, all those age groups by the end of this year. but if we are looking at just the age group of 5 to 12-year-olds, we will probably see the data come in, in september. and as we know, fda will take a couple of weeks to review the information and then provide emergency authorization. so i would think sometime in september. and then, the age group after that. so, you know, the 2 -- the 2-year-olds to 11-year-olds, we'll probably see the data come in, you know, probably shortly after that. and then, the six months, you know, for -- for that age group, shortly after that. but i would say, probably, by the end of this year. >> and then, there is the rollout, of course, and how that will work for each of those children, as well. doctor, so today, university of michigan was also announcing that it will be the latest university to require all staff, all students to be vaccinated. and that's really a massive number of people for that university. a lot of young adults have been quite slow to get vaccinated. so, do you think that it should be mandated at all colleges and universities?

>> i do think so. we have plenty of really great data and information that these covid-19 vaccines are safe and effective and they are a way out of this pandemic. i know, that the recent news of breakthrough infections and -- and universal mask mandates for even those who are vaccinated are getting people a bit jump think. but i think the take-home message a good message that these covid-19 vaccines work. so the more that we can use them. the more that we can mandate individuals that have public-facing roles in universities and in these types of settings, the better. and in fact, i applaud over the 88 healthcare organizations that are looking at and have mandated, you know, the covid-19 vaccine for the 17 million healthcare workers that we have in the united states. that's very important. >> well, i also have a viewer who is asking question about boosters and quote they say, i have heard a lot of information about a booster of pfizer but nothing on the j&j shot. will that require a booster, also? and -- and what about getting a j&j shot but another maker for the booster? so, with the dangerous-delta

variant -- as dangerous as it is, booster shots are on a lot of people's minds, doctor. so, where are we on those booster shots? >> so i think, first, the word booster is probably a little bit misleading as we use it just generally. you know, when we are looking at providing a supplemental covid-19 vaccine dose, with the johnson & johnson, obviously, it's a second shot but it's more of another dose versus like a booster, if you will. because it's just part of the overall series. and so, as we look at the different, you know, pharmaceutical companies. whether it's j&j, whether it's pfizer or moderna. in the context of having this third shot or booster shot as it's more well known, i think it really first depends on the surveillance. the data that is coming out. we are following what is happening in israel and uk, for example. we are seeing in israel, some of the studies on pfizer showing perhaps potential waning of immunity in the older population and that's where they have, you know, have basically come out with the recommendation of

having a booster shot for those over the age of 60 in that population. that probably will, you know, also apply to here, in the united. but i think the biggest two things to take away is that we need to continue to follow the data. continue to do surveillance and monitoring on, you know, the overall-breakthrough cases and seeing, you know, if the vaccine-induced immunity is waning. and then, have a good plan. have that booster shot ready, when we need to use it. whether it's for the elderly population, those who are immunocompromised, or if it's for the younger population. but i think those are the two things. the last thing i will, just quickly, mention on that topic. as we are looking at boosters, i think it's important to also ensure we have good global equity of covid-19 vaccines because we have vaccines in the u.s. but there is still a huge disparity of not having vaccines in many different countries. we have, you know, a huge range of 80% of populations vaccinated versus 1% of the population vaccinated, in some countries. we need to get vaccines to other people as we also talk about in the context of booster shots. >> thank you for your time.

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trump went in his efforts to overturn the 2020 election. the house oversight committee releasing notes taken by then-acting deputy attorney general richard donoghue. documenting a late-december phone call. now, on that call, president trump pressured his acting-attorney general to declare the presidential election illegal and corrupt, even though, of course, it was not. it was neither of those things. and the notes say that trump told then-acting ag, jeffrey rosen, quote, just say that the election was corrupt, and leave the rest to me and the r congressmen. r, for republican. let's discuss with cnn senior law enforcement analyst and former fbi deputy director, andrew mccabe. he is also the author of "the threat: how the fbi protects america in the age of terror and trump." andrew mccabe, nice to see you tonight. happy, friday evening.

i feel like it's a bit of déjà vu when we talk about these issues because -- um -- some things, we've known. other things, we, maybe, thought was going on. but these notes, actually, show that trump is badgering rosen and donoghue. leave the rest to me and the gop congressmen? i mean, how was this plan supposed to unfold, you think? >> well, that's a great question, laura. i mean, it's, obviously, the contemporaneous notes are a -- an artifact, a piece of evidence of unassailable quality. right? these are -- especially, any, good attorney who has a habit of taking notes during important phone calls and meetings. here he is in a meeting with his boss, the attorney general, and on an important phone call with the president of the united states. he takes notes. that is a normal course of business. and those things are, of course, then preserved and, ultimately, revealed to us. so they really give us an insight into what he was thinking, what president trump said. what they responded to those comments by the president.

and, you know, you have to imagine that this was -- i'm sorry, you don't have to imagine -- it's perfectly clear. this was an effort, by the president, to just get the department of justice to start this conspiracy. to go public with this baseless claim that the -- that the election was corrupt. and then, he was confident that the republicans in congress would then take the ball, from there, and really move this thing forward. and ultimately, you know, you can imagine turning over the results of the election. it's -- it's absolutely -- um -- it's -- it's -- it's dastardly. it's -- it's unbelievable. >> i mean, it's kind of, like, just -- just plant a seed. i'll help it grow, right? just plant a seed. the credibility of the department of justice to do this. and we know how the credibility is -- is there and why it's there. but to use it to plant a seed, like this. you know, at -- at one point, on the call, according to the notes that are according to the call. trump said to the doj officials, quote, you guys may not be

following the internet, the way i do. this is the president of the united states. he is trying to promote the big lie to u.s.-government officials, based on the internet and online conspiracies, andrew? >> yeah. and, you know, laura, how perfect is that, right? we know this to be the president of the internet. this is a guy, who spent his time watching twitter and listening to, you know, the news and watching his favorite-tv shows, instead of following the law. instead of listening to the advice of counsel, listening to -- listening to people who would advise him on procedures and policies. and the importance of things like, oh, i don't know, the independence of the department of justice, right? we talk about that, all the time. i think it's unfortunate, sometimes, people dismiss it as some sort of, like, point of etiquette or something. when actually, it's absolutely

essential to the functioning of our country. and that -- the independence of the department of justice is what ensures people that they can believe in the results of the criminal-justice system, instead of thinking it's just subject to politics. so, here, we have the president of the internet attacking the department of justice and our democracy, in the same swath. >> you know, both, rosen and donoghue, frankly, they could end up testifying before congress for, really, a number of the investigations. so, the doj, as you know, has now waived executive privilege. so, what questions do they need to answer, now that they don't have that muzzle, so to speak, of privilege on them now? >> well, you know, there -- this will be a fascinating piece of testimony, if we ever get to hear it. and i'm sure that our -- our representatives in congress will be asking them things like exactly what did the president say to you? what did you think he meant by -- by making those statements? how did you react to that? what did you tell him, in

response? so, they're going to parse through every detail of this conversation. really, to shed light on the president's intent. what was he trying to accomplish with this pressure campaign on the department of justice? and i think the -- you know, the end result will be to expose, yet, another abuse of the office of the presidency. >> andrew mccabe, thank you. appreciate it. >> thanks, laura. you know, just days after trump told the doj to overturn a free, fair, and democratic election, this happened. an insurrection. but now, that justice department is signaling that they want answers. i'll make my case, next. ♪ born to be wild ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ born to be wild ♪ see disney's jungle cruise. applebee's and a movie, now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood.

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incidents with violent airline passengers are now on the rise. the nation's largest flight attendants union says nearly 1 in 5 flight attendants have now encountered a violent airplane passenger just so far this year. and 85% of union members have self-reported encountering an unruly passenger. they say the time has come for

more focus on now criminal charges for in-air disturbances. so what needs to be done to stop the violence in the skies? here with me now, sarah nelson, international president of the association of flight attendants. sarah, nice to see you. i'm sorry it's under these circumstances and what everyone is grappling with right now because, i mean, wow. 85% of flight attendants now have dealt with unruly passengers. the faa is reporting 106 incidents in the past seven days alone. why is it so crazy? >> it's really concerning, and those are numbers that you're reporting over the last week that would be normally over the course of an entire year. if we stay at this rate, we're going to have more incidents in this year alone than we've had in the entire history of aviation. so flight attendants have had to deal with unruly passengers throughout the course of our careers and we're trained in how to de-escalate, but we've never seen anything like this. to go to work and expect this is

likely to be a part of our day is not something we're used to. >> i just want to show this video and what we're looking at, we have flight attendants now taking self-defense classes so they're able to actually fight back and protect themselves. i mean what does this tell you about the current situation that flight attendants are -- they feel the need to defend themselves physically now? >> this is really concerning. you know, this is a class actually that was formed after 9/11, and we had fought then to try to make it mandatory. it ultimately was a voluntary class. it was suspended for a period of time by tsa because of coronavirus protocols. but it's back in place. this is one of the things that the tsa is doing and this administration is doing to make sure flight attendants have tools and also communicate exactly what you're saying. this is absurd that we have to focus on the fact that flight attendants have to have martial arts skills in order to go to work today. so we are doing all that we can to try to communicate to the

public what's expected. i want to be very clear. this is a relatively small group of people. but they are making it very risky in the air for everyone, and they're making this a disturbing case at work and potentially very unsafe conditions for passengers and crews across aviation. >> and frankly, criminal behavior, right? just because you're in the air and it's a flight attendant, doesn't mean you're entitled to use violence against a person. you're actually as part of the union pushing for criminal charges, right? >> so this is already under the statute. under the statute today, you can be fined up to $35,000 per incident and face up to 20 years in jail. so we're asking doj, please publicly and quickly, swiftly take up these cases and press on these criminal charges and help people understand what the consequences are, what the very real consequences are. you know, over half of the

incidents relate to alcohol, and we need some sobering up here as a society. and criminal charges, facing criminal time in jail will probably create some sobering up. now, i also want to report that as we have been talking about this, we've been starting to see more passengers really trying to express kindness and trying to make things better for us. but these incidents are still way too high. >> sarah nelson, thank you. we'll be right back. >> thank you very much.

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