thank you for being with us. the big show, don lemon tonight with its big star, d lemon now. >> so chris, good evening. we sit here and we tell people about the variant and covid-19 and getting the vaccine and many people don't listen. many people do. the best way to show is the example. you should see this interview that i have coming up of this entire family who got covid. and now he is in his hospital bed and he's saying that these are my last words, then i want to spend it this way. by talking to you and getting

people to hear my voice and hear this message. it is quite incredible. >> all you can do is tell people the truthful. >> yeah. you can't make them believe. the hope is in telling people the stories you'll tell tonight, the people will see themselves and not just the people who are sick but the people who are struggling with losing them around them. that's the part that we often don't emphasize enough. you wear a mask. you take care of yourself. what you may do to others. if you don't, what about the people you're supposed to take care of? >> yeah. our time is short. i want to get to it. >> i'll be watching. i love you, d lemon. >> more than you know. this is don lemon tonight. we have a lot to get to. i usually start with my take. i'll give that you later because i thought this was so important. i taped it just before the broadcast west moved a lot of things around so we can show you this. you know how bad delta is. new daily cases topping 100,000. dr. anthony fauci predicting

that the number could double to 200,000 new cases per day. so i want you to hear from two people who contracted covid. a husband and a wife. both unvaccinated. here it is. >> so joining me now to talk about their experiences, travis and kelly campbell. as you can see, travis is still in the hospital. and kelly is with him. travis, kelly, thank you so much. i really appreciate you joining us. >> thank you. thank you for taking the time to hear our story. trying to get the message out. please, please don't wait. don't procrastinate. it is stronger and faster and it attacks those who are not ventilated or have more medical

conditions. ten times faster and harder and it is not worth it. you have your life. take the vaccination. your friends will carry your body. >> travis, this is tough to hear because you're still on oxygen. i think your message is loud and clear. you've got the mask on. i want to know, how are you feeling, sir? >> i feel like with all the support, my friends have given me energy.

but i also feel like at any second, it could be my time. and it's over. and i can't go back and change it. if i could, i would go get vaccination and take my family with me. >> what are your symptoms right now? tell me about the symptoms you've had. i can't breathe. i feel like i'm a fish out of water. i have fever, [ inaudible ] the dehydration. it's very, very difficult. and the scary part, the easy part about covid is getting it. then when you get to the hospital and there is no beds.

nothing they could do. and you're just drowning. >> you said you feel like any moment can be your last, travis? >> absolutely. absolutely. it's that terrible. i can't expel my lungs. i just pray that i can continue to gain energy. it's so aggressive. i didn't have covid before. and this, i can't understand why a single parent or a single grandparent would not get vaccinated and take chance. it is so aggressive. it is so scary.

and it happens so fast. >> travis, i'm so sorry. kelly, i want to bring you in. you were hospitalized with covid. and two of your children were also infected. how are you doing right now? >> i'm good. i'm healthy. we're all on the mend. we didn't have as severe symptoms as travis so we were lucky in that aspect. but we all had symptoms. whether it be the cough, the fever, the headache, the diarrhea. we all have symptoms. [ inaudible ] you never know. it hit travis a whole lot

harder. >> why didn't you guys get vaccinated? >> we don't really have a reason. we're single people. we don't go to the doctor a lot. we're not sick. we're not around a lot of people. >> in 2020, a basketball team, we all got sick. we had the same symptoms as covid. so when covid came up, everybody wasn't concerned. we had already had the covid. but it is like once you got it, you feel like you won't get it again. but that's not true. the taebls are only good for about 90 days. and so when covid started going quiet, so we just thought we had

beat our odds. we live in a country. we don't have a lot of interaction. it was my fault. i was the one that was negligent. i should have took my kids and my wife. i'm paying my price. and i just tell everybody and anybody. if you're on the fence, take an evaluation of what your life means to you. and go get vaccinated, please, please. >> you know people think it's not real and they'll say, the best immunity i have is a natural immunity. i've got the antibodies. if i get it, i can survive you. you know the score.

i don't have to tell you. i've heard your message loud and clear. what do you say to people who don't believe it is real or this is something that you can develop a natural immunity to, or they can survive it and they don't need to get the vaccine? >> i would tell them they can come stay with me. it's real. it's as real as it is ever going to be. i'm just asking, if they can't, if they're not comfortable making the decision, talk to your doctor. reach out to your mom. ask your mom. mom, do you think i should get vaccinated? or should i just take my chances? i think you'll get your answer. or go to your 8-year-old daughter and ask her, do you want to go with daddy so we can get our vaccination?

[ inaudible ] if you don't get your vaccination, you can't go back and try it again if you don't have the second chance. you've got to live with what you've got. >> kellie, can you just tell me what the prognosis is? >> we just take it day by day. he hasn't gotten a whole lot worse and he hasn't gotten a whole lot better either. he is on quite a bit of oxygen. they've got his fehr under control. lots of steroids, lots of breathing treatments. he has to get his strength back up and get it going. >> yeah. i have to tell you, kellie and travis, you guys are so brave. and to tell your story and to admit that, you feel that you made a mistake. your words, not mine. i think that you're really brave

to do this and we wish you the absolute best of health and luck and we're thinking about you. you get well. i hope your message resonates to the rest of the world. >> hey, don, one more thing. >> yes, sir. >> if people would open up their hearts with love and consider being organ donors and extend someone else's life, it is the greatest gift you can ever give your community and humanity. [ inaudible ] better for it. >> thank you, travis. thank you, kellie. be well. >> thank you. >> so that says it all right there. that says it all right there.

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social media. get vaccinated. we have a lot of news to cover. big news. multiple stories. from the pandemic that is threatening american lives to the attempted coup still threatening american democracy. and there is news tonight on the impeachment investigation of the new york governor, andrew cuomo. the governor define. digging in his heels and resisting growing calls to resign in spite of the state attorney general's bombshell report on sexual harassment violations by 11 women. the impeachment investigation moving quickly with the governor asked to submit any evidence no later than august 13th. his attorney said the ag's report which they said retaliated against one woman was legally and factually wrong. the new york attorney general's office responding, quote, the report speaks for itself and we stand by it. that as there are now a total of at least six district attorneys requesting information from the state attorney general's office on the allegations of sexual

harassment. we have a lot more to come a little later in the show. stay tuned. now i want to turn to the ongoing threat to democracy in this country. a nice democracy if you can keep it. the question is, can we keep it? what we have seen in this country was nothing less than an attempted coup. the warning signs are still flashing red tonight and right now as well. if that doesn't scare you, it should. think about it. we saw the insurrection happen in real-time. we saw with our own eyes. what we didn't know until now, what the then president of the united states had done behind closed doors to try to overturn the democracy that he swore to protect. just think what we have learned in just the past few days. then president in late december pressuring doj officials including to say the election was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the r. meaning republican congressmen. that according to hand written notes from the deputy attorney

general. notes shared with house investigators. a day later, another doj official drafting a letter suggesting that there were irregularities in the election. there weren't. other top officials refused to sign it. days after that, another former doj official drafted but never sent a letter of resignation in case the acting ag was pushed out for refusing to promote the big lie of bogus election fraud. let's not forget the then president pressuring the georgia secretary of state to find exact number of votes needed to overturn joe biden's victory. >> so look, all i want to do is this. i just want to find 11,780 votes which is one more than we have. because we won the state. >> all of that just days before the violent insurrection in our nation's capitol. are we paying close enough attention? is the doj looking closely at

what we have sflernld are democrats prepared to stave off another coup attempt? the big lie is alive and well and the big liar is still out there pushing it. it is all related. all part of the big picture. the assault on voting rights is nothing less than a plan to get the gop the power to overturn the next election if they don't like the results. i hope you heard that last line. the power to overturn the election if they don't like the results. it is happening now. greg anti-calling for a special legislation this weekend to push voting restrictions that democrats blocked by fleeing the state. >> our fundamental view is if you are pushing for election, that makes it harder and not easier to vote. that makes it less accessible. it limits the ability to get to the polls, to take time off to do that. our question is what are you afraid of here?

are you afraid of more people getting out to vote? what is the concern? >> it is all related. the january 6th deniers and their nothing to see here insurrection. what insurrection? that's their message. what insurrection? they're all part of it, too. their lies about tourists, peaceful patriots, black lives matter and antifa. all part of big picture, part of the big lie. the doj has charged more than 550 people in question, the insurrection. a federal judge telling one, you called yourself and everyone else patriots. that's not patriotism. patriotism is loyalty to country, loyalty to the constitution. not loyalty to a head of state. that is the tyranny we rejected on july 4. president joe biden surrounded by lawmakers, members of law enforcement and their families, signing a law to award congressional gold medals to the brave police officers who risked

their lives to defend the capitol from blood thirsty rioters. and then going on to say this. >> let's remember what this was all about. a violent attempt to overturn the will of the american people. to seek power at all cost. to replace the ballot with brute force. to destroy, not to build. without democracy, nothing is possible. with it, everything is. so my fellow americans, we must all do our part to protect and preserve our democracy. it requires people of good will and courage to stand up to the hate, the lies, the extremism that led to this vicious attack. >> we need to see the big picture. we need to lead the warning signs. to protect the democracy from the threat that is still looming tonight. speaking of threats. there's a pandemic that is

threatening american lives. new daily cases of covid topping 100,000. you just heard that powerful message from that virginia man and his wife. both have covid. he's still in the hospital on oxygen. they're begging everybody to take this seriously and to get vaccinated. the gop governors of states like texas and florida, states with one-third of the covid cases last week, putting their own constituents at risk by banning mask mandates. especially in schools. the education secretary saying this. don't be the reason schools are disrupted. we know what works. we have to keep our students safe. we have to keep our educators safe. >> governors making it all about politics instead of the health and safety of kids too young to get vaccinated. president biden with a two-word response to criticism from florida governor ron desantis.

>> using your words about don't be in the way. and if you say, i am in the way to block too much interference from the federal government. your response? >> governor who? >> desantis. >> it should be persona nongrata. like i said, covid is still threatening our lives and the attempted coup is still threatening our democracy. it is a miss the democracy if you can keep it. the question is, can we keep it? hospitals are overwhelmed right now. younger and younger people, coming in with worse and worse cases. and it is happening right in my home town. the louisiana governor is here. we'll talk to him, next.

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so new daily cases of covid topping 100,000 in this country. but tens of millions of eligible adults in the u.s. have still not gotten their shots. even though the vaccines are safe, they're free and they've been available for months. so why not? let's talk to pollster frank luntz. he is here with me and he spoke to 21 unvaccinated people all across the country with the help of the debeaumont foundation to ask why they are still saying no to the vaccine. just a reminder, we saw someone in the top block of this show. didn't get the vaccine.

very sick in the hospital now. now regretting it and telling people to get their vaccine. hello to you. thank you for joining. >> thank you for having me. it's the most important thing i've done this year. and maybe it is the most important thing i've done in my entire career. >> why do you say that? >> because as a pollster, you get a chance to measure public opinion. but rarely do you get a chance to make a difference. to actually try to help people. and i have to admit, don, it has been very difficult for me. my job is to keep my cool. to listen, to ask questions, and then apply the information and the advice to people like you. but i'm getting so frustrated. i know personally the consequences of making bad decisions and i don't want people to do that. and there's so much blame to go around that we need to avoid the partisanship, the poflt covid. at least for now. there's plenty of time to hold people accountable. and perhaps most importantly, if we don't get people vaccinated

in the next three or four weeks, we've got all these kids coming back to school. we've got schools opening up again. the danger of delta and the other variants, combine that with the schools opening up and this is a serious if not crisis situation and i want the public to know this. to embrace i had. to not look it a as someone else's problem but their own challenge and do something about it. >> so why are they still unvaccinated? what are they telling you? >> number one they've gone from not now to no. and i want to be clear about that. initially, it was, i'll make the decision in good time. i'll do it on my own time. not on the government's time. too many people are telling me that they are possibly going to get the vaccine. when i approach them directly, in these focus groups. they say, well, no, the truth is i won't get it. second is that you have to keep the politics out of this. and i know that the temptation,

particularly in the people who do the job that you do, is to be on those who aren't vaccinated, to hold them accountable, responsibility for what's happening in the spread of the virus. the problem is you deep onlyize them, if you insult them, they will surely not listen to you and they will not be educated by you. and the third thing is that frankly they feel pressured rather than educated. so we have to use language and statistics and facts that will bring them in, rather than pushing them away. >> yeah. listen, it is so interesting that you say that. because i hear people saying, listen, i'm so tired of trying to convince people who don't want to be convinced and why is it my fault that they're not getting vaccinated? it is their fault. and how much more, if they want to get sick, let them get sick and whatever comes of that. there is a frustration from people are educated and informed

and vaccinated. so what will move the needle for some of these people? >> two things. number one is fong 95%. 95% of doctors now vaccinated. so the people who know the most have done this. what do 95% of doctors know that the unvaccinate don't? that's a real powerful statistic. and second, now when you get covid, it could actually be and is more dangerous to you. you have a long term consequence that lasts far greater than whatever the vaccine could do. whatever side effects you could have. in the end we need doctors directly involved. we need doctors answering the misinformation that your show has done a good job of pointing out. we need doctors to open up offices to get vaccines because that's where they feel the most comfortable. and we need doctors to embrace

the next generation. we need them to be talking to the kids. in fact, i'll ask through your show for doctors to put together a video. not for the parents but for the children of the parents. to tell the parents, get your kids vaccinated before they go back to class. then you'll feel safe and secure. your child, if those children are not vaccinated, then your child is in jeopardy. and your child is threatened. do you know what? what i don't understand, we used the work together as a country. in times of great trial and tribulation, we would pull together. in 2021, we seem to be pulling apart. and that's not the america that i grew up in. not the america that i know. >> yeah. it's not. over the past few years, there have been people who have been promoting and really relishing in the misinformation, and people and organizations. i want to hear from some of the

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i'm back with pollster frank luntz. let's listen to what one teacher said about getting the vaccine. this is a teacher. >> to me, personally, there's nothing you can say or do to get me to get vaccinated. there is nothing that can be done. so i think that everybody needs to be responsible for themselves, and for their children and do not send your kid with a cold to school. we've done that for many, many years. i think it is time to be cleaner. to stop that and be responsible for yourself. and that's what i surely

believe. >> look. how is that woman a teacher? look. do others share her feelings? how much trouble are we really in right now? these are kids who will be in confined spaces on school buses. some of them unable to get vaccinated. go on, frank. sorry. >> but don, this is part of our job is to keep cool when things around us are going to hell. and it is our responsibility. it why i'm up this morning at my time, 4:30 a.m. the challenge now is not the parents. the challenge right now are the kids that we have in some cases, only two weeks left before kids go back to school. and everyone will be going back within a month of today. our challenge is to get as many parents to give their kids the gift of safety, of security. parent are trying to think what

can they do for their kids? can they buy them a new outfit? get them a car? do something special? the most important thing a parent can do for a child is get them vaccinated. >> but frank, if they're of age. it's almost too late to get shot and be fully vaccinated by the time they have to go back to school. i'm just wondering. i think you said you spoke with them afterwards. do they understand their own ignorance when it comes to this? why is that woman a teacher? i wouldn't want anybody like that teaching my kids. that's my responsibility. if my child's teacher isn't vaccinated, i don't want them to go into a classroom with her. it shouldn't be that i have to hold my kid out of school because a teacher doesn't want to get vaccinated. do you understand what i'm saying? >> yes. i absolutely do. and we're in an impossible situation where people don't

want to listen to each other, they don't want to learn from each other of the we used to be a community that respected the wishes of others. that we would want the make life better for others. right now the goal, the mission is to get as many needles, i can't believe i'm saying this. to get as many needles into as many arms as possible. if we get the first vaccine right now, if we can even influence a thousand of your viewers, 10,000 of your viewers, a tiny fraction. to get them to get vaccinated. to get them to get the first shot. that in itself saves lives. so i'm looking at this incrementally. and one last thing. that we need to get president biden and president trump in the same damn room. i would use tougher language but i don't want to you get an fcc fine. >> why, he's not the president anymore. why would joe biden call donald trump or get donald trump, the person who has been the number

one spreader of misinformation in the same room? frank, that doesn't make sense. help me understand why that makes sense. >> it maiks sense. it's cool. it makes sense because we're trying on get every spokes person, every political person, every presser pen, every community engaged in this effort because we know it saves lives. so we try to be nonpartisan. not bipartisan. nonpartisan. nonpolitical. nonjudgmental. there's plenty of time for judgment on new years eve. i want to make sure we get to new years eve. whatever it takes, even if i have to be extra kind, extra decent to people i disagree with, i'll do it. and you need to as well. every news network needs to do so as well. because there are people watching you right now that are making the decision. i want them to make the right

choice. by the way. it is not just republicans. you have people who live in rural areas, african-americans, we need to reach to everyone who isn't vaccinated and do it now and at least they have the first shot in their arms before they go to school. >> when do you get to the point, my grandmother used to say, a hard head makes a soft behind. so at some point, there is no convincing. and it seems to me we're at that point. i know you keep saying joe biden needs to reach out to the former president. the former president is still out there spreading misinformation. that's a pipe dream, frank. that is never, ever, ever going to happen. these two men will never get into a room. look. it's a good thing for you, i'm sure, to want to it happen. and then on the other front, you say in 2021, we've gotten to this place where people.

>> well, that's been building for a long time. that's been happening quite frankly with the republican party who became the trump party and the party of misinformation and the big lie and politicizing the pandemic and then politicizing the vaccine. so it is hard to quite honestly, i understand what some of those people are coming from. and i understand you say, well, we need to have some compassion. it is hard to be compassionate sometimes for people who don't want to listen. who want to remain i go northern. do you understand what i'm saying? >> not only do i understand it. i empathize with it. i say to you that if you are genuine in your heart and in your head and now i'll sound somewhat spiritual. i'll channel tim scott. if you're genuine in your commitment to save lives, then you accept people's foibles, you accept their weaknesses and you don't get angry about it. i'm trying to teach myself about

it as i try to do my craft, my trade. and i say to people, i want to deliver a message right through camera to doctors, the best way for to you communicate is through a q & a. to ask the questions that your patients are asking in the words that they are using, and then to deliver them answers. that q & a on video is the most likely way to make a difference. don, i get it. i empathize with you. but until the end of this year, i'm not giving in and i'm not giving up and i won't be partisan and i won't be political and i'll do my best to trito give your viewers and any viewers i can get in front of, the best possible information so they can convince their friends, their family, maybe even themselves to get vaccinated. >> as you know, the truth is not partisan, right? and everything that i said here tonight is truthful about the people who are hesitant to getting it. and look. i hope what you're saying is right. you should continue to fight for it. when i see people now. i hear people saying, doctors

are paid actors. they're being paid by the left. that's politicizing it. or the folks i had on earlier. don lemon has paid actors on television. there's nobody paid. they say we're country folk. we made a mistake. we should have got dwrenl vaccine. everyone in our family has gotten it. this could be my last breath. do you know when the anti-vaxxers say in these are actors. no one should be watching this. why do you have people on who have been affected that poorly by the vaccine? at some point, frank luntz, people cannot be converted. they cannot be spoken to and they will not get it through their thick skulls that what they're doing is not only harmful to them but it is harmful for their fellow men. if they can't get it through their heads, at some point you have to say, i'm done. and you have to move on and take care of the people who are actually doing the right thing and focus on the people had are

doing the right thing. and how you keep them safe and not the people who don't want to be kept safe. >> but there's a way to handle this. in the end, if you want to get on a plane, you have to be vaccinated. if you want to go to a sporting event, you have to be vaccinated. if you want to eat in a restaurant, if you want to stay in a hotel. we are going to reach that point and there are some business who's are doing it right now. so make the right decision on your own and there are no mandates. at some point they have to do that. so again, don, i hear you. but for now, you and i need to do the best that we can. at least through end of this year. and then as your grandmother would say, at that point, that's when i say, okay, you have to start swatting. >> all right, frank. i hope you come back. i love the information. frank luntz. a lot more news. we'll be right back.

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so please sit down and watch this, everyone, but especially my southern viewers, louisiana folks. my home state of louisiana is one of the hardest hit by the surge of coronavirus cases across the country fueled by the delta variant. today there are more than 2,300 people hospitalized with covid, an all-time record. 91% of current covid hospitalizations in the state are from people who are not fully vaccinated, with 258 currently on ventilators. there's lot to get to with louisiana governor john bel edwards, governor, thank you very much, i really appreciate it. you know it's my home state. it really hurts to hear what's happening there. the delta variant, is it totally out of control?

>> well, it's certainly surging. we have the highest case growth in the country. we know over 90% of our cases are attributable to the delta variant which is more transmissible. and we know we don't have enough people vaccinated. today we have 37.2% of the state's population fully vaccinated. that's not enough. you throw in the august weather when everybody goes indoors to escape the heat and humidity, and it's the perfect trifecta. tomorrow we'll report more than 2,400 hospitalizations. what's different about this one, 20% of our cases, don, are in people below the age of 18. and that is very different than previous surges. and we have a lot of young people who are in the hospital now. and, you know, it's a very challenging situation. >> you said tomorrow you're going to report 2,400 plus

hospitalizations. >> yeah, it will be more than 2,400 hospitalizations. that's all across the state. i will tell you that we have things like organ transplant when you have a living donor that has had to be delayed, cancer surgeries and those kind of things. surgical procedures can be delayed for a few days but we're in a difficult spot right now in louisiana. >> it's important that you say that because people think about it in terms of themselves, usually selfishly, this is my body, i get to do what i want, it's my freedom, what have you. but it's more than just you, governor, if you don't choose to get vaccinated, there's ripple effect to it. >> sure. that's the nature of a pandemic.

when you have a highly transmissible virus that is this deadly, what due or don't do has an effect on your family, on your community, on your neighbors. that's why we call it public health. that's why we have mitigation measures like the mask mandate we reinstated, because we have to slow transmission. we know masks work and that should buy us a little more time hopefully to get people vaccinated. but we've got to take the demand off of our hospitals. our health care workers have been slammed now for a year and a half. and i can tell, they're exhausted, mentally, emotionally exhausted. we need to do what's required. folks need to be vaccinated. >> you know what was frightening to me, the children are really important in this, right? because they weren't being affected. you said 20% of the people now coming in are below 18. i saw -- >> 20% of cases.

>> yes, cases. okay. oxnard hospital for children is ro reporting 23.6% positivity rate, that's the latest we have, it may not be what you have, 23.6 positivity among children under 19. more kids are getting sick and hospitalized from these variants. and do the kids start back? if they haven't started, they start soon. >> some schools started this week. that's one of the reasons why we put the mask mandate in schools as well. this is for five years old and older and all indoor public settings to include our schools, because we want people to be in school but we want it to be safe. so we're going to follow the cdc recommendations on that, and american academy of pediatrics as well. so we've got that mandate in our schools, to try to make sure we have a safe environment, and that we don't continue to generate the kind of

transmission we've seen recently. >> okay. 13% of adolescents fully vaccinated in louisiana. what about teachers, should teachers be required to be vaccinated? >> well, we're going to require -- we're going to add it to the mandated list of vaccinations as soon as the fda gives full approval, licensure, which hopefully will come in the next several weeks based on reporting we've been seeing over the last couple of days. but i'm asking teachers, i'm asking everybody, don't wait 'til then. we have three safe and effective vaccines today. this is critically important if we're going to end this pandemic. and stop people from needlessly becoming sick, going to the hospital, and yes, dying. you know, we have reported a number of deaths just over the last three days. 136 in louisiana in just the last three days. so don, we all have to do better and acknowledge that we have a role to play. and it affects our neighbors and our -- and by the way, not just on covid patients.

but if the hospitals are full, you can have a heart attack, a motor vehicle accident, or a stroke, and you're still going to have problems accessing the type of care that you need. and we're seeing that play out now around the state of louisiana. >> governor john bel edwards, i really appreciate you joining his come back as often as possible, okay? thank you, and best of luck down there, be safe. >> thank you, god bless. >> you as well. next, president biden warning we can't rewrite history, laying out exactly what january 6 was -- an insurrection. ♪ ♪ ♪ hey google, turn up the heat. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪

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