day, hundreds of thousands of bikers gathering for the giant sturgis motorcycle rally. we'll hear from some of the bikers just ahead. and a new focus tonight on a trump ally at the doj, pushing the big lie by claiming without evidence hacking by chinese intelligence. evan perez joins us. good evening to you. we're hearing more each day about what trump ally jeffrey clark was doing, and this may be the most wild development. a bogus claim about special thermometers from china. take it away. >> right. you can't even say it with a straight face, right? but this is what he believed. jeffrey clark, the head of the civil division of the justice

department in the closing days of the previous administration. he said that he had this information from his own secret sources that said the chinese intelligence had a special thermometer that could use to alter vote totals. the answer, of course, is they don't. but he asked his superiors in the justice department, joeff rosen and richard donoghue, to get a special classified briefing from the director of national intelligence to check this out. he went over for the briefing at the turn of the year, and was told that the intelligence showed there was no evidence that there was foreign interference that altered the vote total. something we've known. and he came away not convinced. he kept pushing this idea, and we know he helped try to

orchestrate a coup in the justice department, try to get trump to fire rosen. we know trump didn't do that, but it shows you how close things came in those crucial days. >> it's -- it just -- everything, it grows more absurd by the day. cnn is learning that the january 6th select committee is deciding whether to go after call logs from the trump white house on the day of the riot. what will that tell them? >> there's a lot of things they can learn. one is what were the calls, who was calling whom at the white house, including from the pentagon, including members of congress. mark meadows had another nutty theory, he said that he wanted them to look into whether italian satellites were being used to change vote totals. this is the kind of thing that was going on at this time. and some of the call logs could tell you about what other

witnesses they need to hear from, don. >> we have chinese thermometers, italian satellites, and jewish space lasers. >> you can't make it up. >> have a good weekend. thank you, evan. joining me now, fareed zakaria. we have these things, that's where we are. because the former president was laying groundwork for the big lie even before the election. it's clear from everything we know that he was attempting a coup. do you have faith that our democracy will hold up if this happens again? >> i think you're touching on the most worrying part about the trump legacy. which is the post-truth society that he's built. >> yes. >> trump recognized that he needed to be able to manipulate

the truth and the message. he went at it by saying, there is no such thing as truth, there are no such things as facts. the facts i don't like are fake facts. that's attacking the core of the western enlightenment project, the values that america was built on, when you start to go into that world of a kind of never-never land where there are no actual facts. january 6th didn't happen or it happened in a completely different form. yeah, i worry a great deal. because what is the bulwark, if you can't establish what actually happened there was a violation of our constitutional principles and traditions, where do we go? it's not as though the trump republicans are saying, yes, it was -- yes, we agree with these facts, but we're not going to punish him.

actually, black is white. what you thought you saw actually didn't happen. it's the most bizarre head fake that i can imagine. >> what i've been saying, what i've noticed over the last couple of years, and maybe this is beyond our pay grade, but what it's done to people's psyche and mentality, the way that they think, they think differently. i wonder if in a way it's rewired people's brains to believe in lies or just to be able to create their own reality to fit what they want it to fit. because i can't explain just the absurdity of it all and the lack of people being moored to any truth.

>> there's a group of americans, something like 20%, 30%, who dispute overwhelming scientist evidence, pleading with them to get the vaccine, who simply won't get a vaccine. they're denying themselves the treatment, the cure against a deadly disease that has killed 600,000 people, almost twice as many americans as died in world war ii. they're denying themselves the cure for that, because they've come to believe this series of falsehoods, lies, myths, conspiracy theories. it's a powerful belief system that makes you do things that will actually harm your own health. >> yes. this isn't really true, but i want it to be true, so i'm going to grab it to try to make it into my own reality. it's bizarre.

but, look, the former president and his allies didn't really care about truth. they were intent on weaponizing parts of the government to stay in power. what will it take to restore the damage from that? can we do it, or are we too far gone? >> it's a great question, and i don't have a good answer. but i think when we confront problems like this issue of vaccination, i think we have to stop trying to coddle people who are simply willfully denying facts and truth and science. >> have you been watching my show, fareed? >> you have to get tough, and start making it very difficult for people to be around in a country where they're spreading a disease or potentially spreading a disease. look at what macron did in france.

vaccinations have surged. he said, look, life will be tough for people who refuse to do this. >> i've been saying that over and over every single night, at a certain point, some people are just not convincible. you can't convince them. you have to put your focus on the people who are actually doing the right thing, and protecting the people, who are playing by the rules and getting vaccinated and actually helping their fellow man and themselves. >> you did the most -- to the extent one can persuade, you did the thing by getting that person who from his hospital bed is sending a message through you two get vaccinated. maybe that will work. but i think the most important thing at this point is to try and create a set of policies that as you say, just say to people, look. when you buy a car in america, you are forced to, required by

law, to wear seat belts. to drive it, observing the speed alignment, to get insurance, to get regular inspections. we mandate vaccines. no kid can go to public school in america without having a slew of vaccines. this is part of your responsibility as a citizen. >> would you call a driver's license a driving passport? >> right. >> it's just certain things, in society, you have to have a license or go through, clear certain hoops for it. that's how it works. >> is your car inspection sticker an inspection passport? when you buy a home, do you need an insurance passport? you need documentation to prove

you're observing the law of the land. >> fareed zakaria, it's always a pleasure to see you and watch you, especially on your show, 10:00 a.m. and 1:00 p.m. on cnn sundays. i want to turn to governor andrew cuomo fighting sexual harassment com complaints. errol lewis joins us. you've covered governor qcuomo for years. what did you think of the attacks on the accusers today? >> it was a little surreal, involving victim blaming, and departures into minutia, trying

to impeach one of the accusers by showing some strange timeline, proving that she was in fact in the executive mansion where the governor was on a day when he was there. i'm not sure what they were trying to do. but it seemed to backfire. what they were really doing is acting as if they were in a court of law. complaining about some pretty abstract procedural complaints that they had. but there's nobody to complain to. this is not a court of law, there's no judge to appeal to. the governor requested this report, the attorney general undertook the investigation and presented the report. the report is not what they liked, and it doesn't make him look very good. but these are the facts that they found. they signaled really that they're going to fight in every way possible, even when it doesn't quite make sense. that's where we are right now. >> so you said they're acting as if they're in a court of law. but is this in many ways about the court of public opinion? because he's trying to stay in

office. you say that you believe, your words, that these attacks on the victims or the strategy will backfire. why is that? >> yes. we're in a different place than five years ago, let alone ten or 20. democrats in new york will not put up with women being attacked. in order to refute the 11 separate allegations, by 11 women in completely different positions, in many cases don't know each other, he's going to have to come up with 11 different nefarious motives for the women to try to come up with this to use against the governor for some odd purpose. it's not plausible, and i don't think most new yorkers will think that will happen. 11 separate plots by 11 different women were all concocted at great cost to them,

in many cases, and it was all made up. >> let me jump in here. because i'm going to put up the polls here. before i do that, because you said the majority of new yorkers, quite honestly, i have heard people say, i don't think it was that bad, or i don't think he should resign. i'm sure you've heard that. you're out and about. >> yes. >> i've heard that, let's put the polls up. there's a poll that shows the majority of new yorkers think he should resign. but he's defiant. what do you think of the folks who say, nope, shouldn't resign. we don't know who else will go. you heard all of it. >> i've heard it. people are making what is in my opinion an immoral argument. this is a good governor, he helped us get through covid, he's a good public servant. therefore, therefore what? 11 women should put up with harassment and have their personal dignity or careers

derailed or turned into the plaything for somebody? take one for the team or something like that? it doesn't make sense. it's not a moral argument. the law specifies and i think an evolving custom in new york and around the country, people's personal dignity does matter, not being harassed in the workplace is important, and it's just as important as doing a good job if you're the leader of the state. he could be a really good governor who did some really cr crummy things to some women, and he should pay the price. >> so you don't think he did himself, or his attorneys did him any favors today? >> no, no, no. they left him worse than he was, to be honest. >> didn't change any minds? >> certainly didn't change any

minds. gave maybe some talking points to people who were already determined to defend the governor. there are probably some people out there who voted for him, and remember what a good job he's done during the years, and in particular during the covid crisis. on the other hand, when asked direct questions, there were reporters who had simple questions, especially about the 11th accuser, the trooper who was on his personal detail, and says that the rules were changed, that he met her briefly, and asked to have her on the personal detail. and he did untoward things, touched her in a way that was sexual and suggestive, made all kinds of comments that she didn't like and that made her uncomfortable. when asked about this, how could he have done this, the lawyer didn't have any answers. she said, he met her briefly, he liked that she made eye contact and was assertive, and did these things to get her on his

personal detail. she ended up confirming what the accuser had said. after the brief meeting, the governor changed the longstanding rules to put this woman on his personal detail. they did not do him any favors with that. >> i have a quick question, make i'm setting you up, sorry if i'm doing that. the other thing i'm hearing is the legacy. the political legacy of the cuomo family. that it is -- that andrew cuomo should be more concerned about that at this point than anything in trying to save or rescue that. is that a fair assessment? >> it is. there are a lot of veterans of the mario cuomo and andrew cuomo administration, part of the larger political family, who are shaking their heads. they're devastated by this. saying this will affect the legacy. you've asked me each night, what

would it take for the governor to just walk away? the answer is, his blood family, his brother, mother, sister, daughters. if they say, listen, this is doing damage beyond just you. beyond just your attempt at re-election, beyond even your legal problems. there's the question of what the cuomos have meant to new york. that's something we know that the governor takes very, very seriously. where others have not been able to get through to him, that particular argument might resonate with him. >> errol, fascinating conversation, as always. thank you, sir. and i see your tan suit, and i raise you an almost tan suit. >> thank you. >> thank you, brother. got to stay cool. >> thank you very much. is this the next superspreader event? hundreds of thousands of people expected at south dakota's sturgis motorcycle rally.

hear from some of the bikers, next.

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starting today, an estimated 700,000 people are expected to gather in south dakota for the sturgis motorcycle rally. while it sounds like a lot of fun, it really does, health experts warn it's likely to be a covid-19 superspreading event. the cdc tracked more than 600 cases to last year's rally. but that's not stopping the bikers from rolling into town. adrian broadus is there. >> reporter: a defiant roar,

drowning any fears of the pandemic. >> you know what, i don't think about it. if it happens, you deal with it. i've never taken any vaccines since i was 6. so i'm good. >> reporter: a town of about 7,000 is home to the largest motorcycle rally in the world. once again, despite the rising number of covid cases, it won't keep an estimated 700,000 people away. >> it will affect all the small business owners as well as a lot of individuals. >> reporter: about 460,000 people attended last year's rally. in a recent study, researchers said at least 463 primary cases, including 1 death, were reported within two weeks of the ten-day tradition. and another 186 were identified as secondary contact. cases reported as far away as

florida and maine. are y'all concerned about covid at all? >> no. >> i'm vaccinated. >> my wife has covid right now, so she stayed home. >> i already had it. >> reporter: are you concerned about covid, the delta? >> no. >> i had it already. i kicked its butt. >> reporter: this doctor fears a rise in cases and hospitalizations starting ten days from the rally's start. >> there's no easy way to hold a mass gathering event. the sturgis rally is unstoppable. the best way around would be to get more people vaccinated and to hope that everyone will wear a mask. because we don't have mask mandates here. >> reporter: but this couple are not taking any chances. she's packing her bags. >> we're still of the age where

we can leave. we did not feel like we had the choice to leave last year, so we stocked up and stayed home. >> reporter: others see sturgis as an escape from covid restr restrictions. but when everyone leaves, they fear covid will stick around. >> the people who came in will go home. it's not going to stay here, it will spread far and wide. >> we feel like the best solution for us in our stage of life is to leave. not be a part of it. >> reporter: meanwhile, south dakota's governor is expected to participate in a charity ride on monday. meanwhile, a lot of folks might be wondering, what is the big deal? it's happening outside. health experts say the concern is when people leave from outside and go into bars.

for example, they're shoulder to shoulder, or on crowded party buses. that's when there's an increased risk. last week, there was a big music festival in chicago. in order to get inside, even though it was outside, people had to show proof of vaccination or a negative covid test. that's not required here. it's a little quiet here, because riders are a few blocks away at a concert on a 600-acre campground. >> it sounds fun, but be safe and mask up. see you soon. officials worry that this will be a superspreader event. what is going through the minds of some 700,000 people going to sturgis? i'm going to ask someone who has been trying to get inside the minds of the unvaccinated. that's next. your mover, rob, he's on the scene and needs a plan with a mobile hotspot.

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the u.s. hitting a vaccine milestone today. 50% of the population now fully vaccinated according to the cdc. and more shots can't come soon enough, as delta tears through the unvaccinated population. joining me now, brian castrucci, thank you. appreciate you joining. >> don, thanks for having me. >> i want to get your reaction from what is happening in sturgis. are you concerned, people coming from all over the country, will this be a superspreader event? >> i'm very concerned. the slogan is we're spreading

our wings, but i'm concerned they're going to be spreading more than just their wings. this could be a serious turn for your country. when you look at the data about the delta variant, they should be very concerned. the governor has said there's a risk with everything we do in life, and she's right. but that doesn't mean that we court risk. we don't use that to justify smoking, binge drinking, or running into water where there are sharks, saying life has risks. >> it's interesting. as our reporter was pointing out, with the big events, you have to show your vaccine card, in many cases you have to mask, and so on, and so forth. but some of them, i don't really know the exact percentage, they said, i'm not getting a vaccine, i'm not afraid of covid.

when i spoke with frank last night about a focus group that you did with 21 invacunvaccinat americans. one of the biggest movers was having to have one to go to places like restaurants and gyms. what do you think? >> for a lot of people, it's going to come down to a simple message, and that is no. you can't get back to normal if you're unvaccinated, you can't go to your university, work, or sporting event that you what to go to. i want to compliment places like disney, facebook, and google, because right now our house is on fire. we want people to help stamp out the flames, not throw gasoline on it. >> so we have to convince a lot of people very quickly to fix the situation we're in. are there any clear steps that you took from these

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imagine touring a home for sale and being met by police with guns drawn. it happened to a black realtor and his black client, and his 15-year-old son, seen being put into handcuffs in this video. all three were cuffed. police say a white neighbor reported a break-in after seeing the three men at the home. this is dash cam video, showing one of the men leaving the house with his hands up. it turns out, a different man was arrested a week earlier for unlawful entry. police saying after a thorough internal review of the actions of the safety officers, we've concluded race played no role in the treatment of the individuals, who were briefly detained, and our officers

responded reasonably, according to department policy based on information available to them at the time. let's talk about that. joining us, the prospective home buyer, his son, and the realtor showing the home. i appreciate you joining us. i'm sorry this happened to you. eric, you heard what the police said. what did this feel like for you? did it feel like profiling, racial profiling? >> it did. honestly, in that moment, it certainly felt that way. it's difficult to justify what i felt a tactical type response. there was a strategy there, and they were surrounding the home without our knowledge. and we weren't made aware of their presence. so, yeah, for sure, it felt -- i don't feel like a home that had been on the market for this

length of time, with a number of showings, given the climate and activity in our market, that no one else had that type of or level of force in response. >> roy, i'm glad you're here and you're healthy now. but you had to be worried that, you know, it wouldn't be the case while this was all happening. >> oh, yeah. i was worried. i was very worried, initially, when it all started. and not knowing that the officers were out there until i saw two officers outside the window on the side of the home after he told me there were cops outside. we came upstairs, where eric and i were, and once i saw the officers with their guns drawn, and i saw them doing hand signals, signaling each other to

surround the house. and i noticed that, one officer was heading to the back. that's when i really got par paranoid, i knew they were preparing for a standoff. we need to get to where we can see that we're not a threat. and -- but i can't say that my adrenaline wasn't pumping. i was -- i was worried, but i was just more concerned about getting my son out of that situation, and getting us all out of there. yeah, i was scared. >> i'm just wonder -- what were the handcuffs -- you guys walked out. you complied. i'm just wondering was there a need for handcuffs? but, you know, anyway, samuel, i'm so sorry this happened to you. just so people know, you are only 15 years old and i imagine that this was extremely frightening for you. what were your feelings after seeing all of this, after all of this happening to you?

>> well, in the beginning, when we were upstairs is when most of the, i would say, like, shock and initial fear, kind of, happened. because it went from there's cops outside, to come outside with your hands up. so, that was kind of just, like, from zero to 100. so, that's pretty much what i felt was just, like, confusion and shock and fear, for the most part, because i had no idea why they were all down there, at that time. >> yeah. well, i understand you made sure that you put samuel behind you. so, just in case something happened, that it could happen -- it would happen to you, instead of him. what do you want to say to the neighbor who called the police? >> well, to that particular neighbor and any, potential neighbor, my message would be,

you know, we're just like you. um, we occupy the same space. we do the same things. we go to the same places. and, you know, if you see a crime, report a crime. but if you see people, black people, any minority, don't report people doing normal things. >> uh-huh. >> um, you do that. you don't realize that you can change their life or have their life taken just through making a phone call. in this instance, it could have been three. could have been two or one, somebody hurt. but that's my message. report a crime. don't report everyday activity. >> eric -- >> changed my life, changed my son's life. >> yeah. you may not have been sitting here. eric, the wyoming police say they have reached out to you and they want to meet with all three

of you, to discuss what happened. has that been set up, yet? are you open to it? >> it hasn't been set up, yet. and i am, definitely, open to it. to have that conversation with -- with chief costar. we haven't arranged it and set it up, yet. we need to arrange that with some counsel present. our counsel present. and when sammy is ready to enter that environment because i think it's critical that he's there, as well. clearly, we want some reform and some change here. >> uh-huh. >> there are things that have gone wrong. i'm sure you guys have seen or have -- um -- listened to the -- the -- the recordings. the 9-1-1 call. the dispatch and the -- the lapse in communication or the -- what was lost in translation, before those officers arrived there. those are the types of things that need to change. >> well, eric, roy, samuel, i'm sorry this happened to you. i will say that, again. please, keep us updated on your meeting and what transpires,

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good, friday evening, to you. anderson is off tonight. i'm jim sciutto. we begin with a major and positive milestone for the country. as of tonight, more than 50% of the population is vaccinated against covid. that is good, but it may not be keeping up with the pace of the delta variant. >> we're running out of time. we are, absolutely, running out of time.

>> that is the governor of a state, whose population remains resistant to vaccines, west virginia. today, amping up the urgency. that same urgency is apparent on the federal level. this week, we've seen the administration scrambling to speed up full-fda approval of vaccines to finalize a booster strategy. and now, according to "the new york times" and "washington post," authorize additional shots in the coming weeks from people, specifically with compromised-immune systems. we've, also, seen big companies doing their part. with amazon, today, for instance, becoming the latest mandating that all warehouse workers mask up, nationwide. that starts on monday. and all across the country, city, county, and state governments have been doing the same. today, new jersey's governor ordered mask wearing for everyone, vaccinated or not, in all schools, public and private, notably, from preschool through the 12th grade. not so, however, in texas or florida where governors not only oppose these