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we're following multiple big developing stories tonight. new york governor andrew cuomo resigning trying to avoid impeachment while also attempting to undercut the sexual harassment allegations forcing him out. plus delta variant putting children at risk. nearly 94,000 children testing positive for covid in the past week. why are some republican governors trying to punish schools for wearing masks in the classroom. and president biden celebrating passing the $1.2 trillion bipartisan bil that included 19 republicans. >> after years and years of infrastructure week, we're in the couples of an infrastructure decade that i truly believe will transform america. we have proven we can come
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together to do big things, important things for the american people. >> if passed by the house, the bill would revamp the country's roads and bridges while boosting broad band connections and fighting climate change. so let's start with cnn political commentator david axelrod and ron brownstein. thank you both for joining. david axelrod, let's started with you. politicians have been promising infrastructure for years and it looks like president biden is on his way to delivering with bipartisanship, 69-30. is that a big deal? he says, is that a big deal? >> i think if iffing belongs in there. it is a big thing. it was something he campaigned on. he was roundly criticized for being naive, being nostalgic, for harkening back to a different day when bipartisanship was possible. and he hung in there and he kept
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at this and he has delivered. not by a little but a lot. 19 republicans is a pretty resounding number. it is halftime. they have to get it through the house. i'm of a mind that they probably will get this through the house. i was in an administration where we asked for $50 billion aier for infrastructure, that's billion with a b, not a t. and we couldn't get it. 10e i think it is a big deal. it does suggest that on some things, if not on most things, that you can forge a coalition and do as he said, big things. and i think that's important when people are looking at democracy and adversaries like china are pointing at our democracy and saying we can't
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get big things done anymore. >> ron, the president is stressing that 90% of the jobs with this bill don't require a college degree. he is calling it a blue collar blue print to rebuild america. you say biden is the party's last chance to bring them back. talk to me. >> first, stressing how much, how many of the jobs do not require a college education is very hard to imagine barack obama or bill clinton doing. their emphasis was much more on moving people up the skills ladder and the argument those were the jobs of the future. biden in a variety of ways is putting a lot of chips on his ability to win back more of the working class white voters who have been moving away from the party and stampeding away in the last three elections, 12, 16 and 20. look, it is a very tough slog. they are betting if they address
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the material concerns of those voters, and you see it in the infrastructure bill which they emphasize is about blue collar jobs, roads, sewers, bridges. and the follow-on which will have an unprecedented since the 1960s, a sweep of direct government benefits. working from a child tax credit to pay family leave and health care and childcare subsidies. but his approval rating among whites without a college degree is still stuck at around 33%. that was his vote. it was only slightly better than hillary clinton in 2016. wasn't nearly as good as obama in 2008 or the democrats in the 20 years before that. if joe biden, a 78-year-old white catholic offering this to working class white voters can't really dislodge the republican hold on them, it does call into question whether it is a viable strategy for democrats, at least swels as long as republicans are offering such a opening racial identity message that is ikt attractive to many of those voters. >> president biden said he is optimistic about this bill
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passing the house. i think up this is halftime, right? or the halfway point. some house progressives are already threatening on oppose it if they don't get $3.5 trillion in domestic spending they want. >> well, look, i think this has been like watching expert drivers back a semi into a small loading dock here. you inch it one way, you inch it another way. you kind of ease it in. i think there is a reason why chuck schumer is now, he went right from the infrastructure bill to the reconciliation bill. he wants to deliver that as an article of good faith to the house and pelosi needs it in order to hold her group. now, i think there will be a lot of heartburn between now and then over exactly what is in that infrastructure bill. and exactly how big it will be at the end of the day.
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and this is, you know, the the contractic coalition is a diverse coalition. you have suburban democrats in the house worried about the tax hikes on the wealthy. you have progressive who's want more on climate in there. i may not, there is a lot of demands. i think what the progressives have seen, a manchin, a sinema, by leveraging their votes, they have gotten what they wanted and they'll try to do that as well. my view is at the end of the day, if you're handed the possibility of $4 trillion in new spending, in new infrastructure spending and new social safety net spending, climate spending and so on, even if it is not the perfect bill, i have a hard time seeing democrats walking away from it. >> ron, clearly this is a big bipartisan win for biden. the spike in covid cases is
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threatening to derail his agenda. do you think this is why the president is taking on republicans, republican governors like ron desantis and greg abbott in texas who keep playing politics with this virus? >> i think he has to and i think he will have to more. to go back to your question to david. the real question is what is the lesson you take out of this bipartisan infrastructure bill? it is a big accomplishment and it would not have happened without biden's legislative skill and the skill of his team. it is hard to imagine anything less ideological and the issues that congress faces than pouring concrete. particularly if you avoid raising taxes in order to pay for it and with a lot of cats and dogs. i mean, this does look more like a one-off than a big movement in a new direction. what is happening later tonight with a complete partisan vote on the reconciliation bill, much less republicans blocking any effort to move voting rights to even later in the evening is more indicative of this.
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and the same question with the way he's dealing with republicans in congress to the way he's dealing with them in the states. he has heated up on desantis. the question is whether he will look for any policy levers to try to move them away from these positions that they're in. banning masks even while cases are surging in their states. as we talked about, one quarter of all k-12 students in the country, many of which cannot receive the vaccine at this point, will be attending school in states where republican governors have banned the districts from requiring masks. will biden put any deeds behind it? so far no. i don't know if he can stay on the sidelines if it goes south on them. >> i'll say that did you a good job of pivoting and not answering my question at first. you got back around. i'm not in a fighting mood. these anti-inflammatories, i'm having back issues. i can barely get my lips to
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work. i don't know if you've had any back issues but it's not fun. you have to check out what happened on the senate floor. this is senator corey booker's response to the amendment against defunding the police. watch this. >> i call on my colleagues to support our law enforcement by voting yes for this amendment, opposing my amendment is a vote in support of defunding the police, and against the men and women in blue. >> the gentleman's time has expired. >> madam president! >> from new jersey. >> i am so excited. this is perhaps the highlight of this long and painful and torturous night. this is a gift. if wasn't complete abdication of senate procedures and esteem, i would walk over there and hug my colleague from alabama. and i will tell you right now. thank god. there are some people who have said they're members of this
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deliberative body that want to defund police, to my horror. now this senator has given us the gift that once and for all we can put to bed this scurrilous accusations. somebody in this great esteemed body would want to defund the police. so let's all of us, 100 people, not walk but sashay down there and vote for this amendment and put to rest the lies i am sure i will see no political ads attacking everybody here over defund the police. i would ask unanimous consent to add something else to this obvious bill. can we add also that every senator here wants to defund the police, believes in god, country and -- apple pie. thank you. >> that was a jedi mind trick. that was great. passed 99-0. every democrat in the senate voted for it. now it is officially on the record against defunding the police. thanks to tommy the upperville.
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>> that was a nice pivot. i think that senator booker, his tongue was firmly in his cheek there as he delivered that oration. but listen, this has been, and ron has written about it. we've all talked and written about it. this has been an ongoing meme of the republican party. that democrats wants to defund police. and he is probably right. i don't think there is a senator on the floor of that united states senate who has said that. or who believes that. but look, they think they have an issue. the republicans think they have a winning issue because we have a crime issue. i'm sitting in the city of chicago. we have a horrific weekend in the city of crime and violence and death, including the death of a young police officer. so this is on people's minds. and they want to exploit it. this is american politics right now. everybody is of a mind to weaponize issues, and we really
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need to try and address them. and one hopes that we have serious discussions about what we do about the issue of crime and violence and safety as well as civil rights, and as the mayor of new york, the incoming mayor of new york, the two can co-exist and have to. >> let me say this as a former chicagoan who, that's where i met you, david axel rod. i've watched the rise from state senator. that speech that he gave, and from state senator to u.s. senator to president. let me just say, my heart goes out to the families of everyone affected. and the police officers as well. there has been an issue in chicago through many different administrations. this is not new to the biden administration. happening with obama and bush and reagan. it has been an issue, and trump. and trump. an issue for, that needs to be
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taken care of. it is not just one administration to blame for crime happening in major cities. >> 100%. >> thank you, gentlemen. >> take care of that back. >> oh, man. if you only knew. thank you very much. i appreciate it. i want to bring in now state assembly member, thank you for joining us this evening. so a stunning political moment in new york. what was your reaction to the resignation of governor cuomo? >> i think obviously, it was good thing for our state and for our politics that andrew cuomo is resigning. i want to also mention that it doesn't mean the toxic culture of bis and mysogyny in which he operated in is going away from albany. we have to fix that. we have to work to change that and pass legislation that will make albany a safe and
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harassment-free workplace. >> you talk about the culture. you think this is bigger than the governor. >> i think that it is bigger than the governor in one sense. but also that he was the executive and i think that he was there for a decade. and i think that there is a lot of things that come with a particular personality. but we also see that the legislature has changed significantly because we have more women elected. and we saw that that cultural change shifted the way people were treated. that staff were treated. and that fear of getting into an elevator alone, to be caught in a room alone, it has dissipated a little bit. at least in some of our offices. >> right before his resignation, governor cuomo's attorney spent more than 40 minutes pushing back on many of the allegations
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in the ag's report. and then governor cuomo said things like this. >> i take full responsibility for my actions. i do hug and kiss people casually. women and men. i have done it all my life. it is who i've been since i can remember. in my mind, i've never crossed the line with anyone. but i did not realize the extent to which the line has been redrawn. the report said i sexually harassed 11 women. that was the headline people heard and saw and reacted to. the reaction was outrage. it should have been. however, it was also false.
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>> what do you think? do you give him credit for the apologies? and the explanations he made? and is he entitled to defend himself? >> if you want my direct response. >> i feel like he is still gas lighting. that lawyer is somebody the state is actually paying for. the state is literally paying for his defense on sexual harassment. has come out and defended him again on a state platform that the state also is paying for. basically telling the women that the governor harmed that they were imagining it. then continued to say, i didn't know that the line had been redrawn when it came to the harm he caused. and then at the end he addressed the legislature and tried to say that it would be costly to the state and painful to the state
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to proceed with impeachment proceedings. well, governor cuomo basically told new yorkers in his remarks, in exchange for resigning he would like for the assembly to not impeach him or investigate his conduct any further. impeaching him isn't what is costly. not impeaching him is costly. impeachment must continue. we must remember that the governor's abuse of power extends far beyond just also, beyond the abuse of his staff, beyond the women that he victimized to the staff that were abused and misused when he was writing his book, and then also extends to the people who passed away and were harmed because of his holding back numbers from the legislature on the death in nursing homes. this is a pattern. this is serial abuse. and impeachment is necessary. and it means that new york will not be paying his pension for the rest of his life and after
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his disgusting abuses of power, it also means he will not be able to run for office again. and therefore, i also believe that impeachment means securing justice for all the folks who came forward and were brave enough to speak about his bullying about, his abuse, the way he treats people and all of those who have yet to come forward. i firmly believe that resignation is the first step. resigning doesn't mean that he gets to avoid accountability for what he did. especially as a public servant. as an elected official. as the highest elected official in the state. >> thank you very much. i appreciate it. >> thank you. they are fighting back. communities telling republican governors in texas and florida what they think of their bans on mask mandates. i will speak with some of them next. >> i'm just not willing to risk or play russian roulette with somebody's life. especially not a child.
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so president biden pushing back on the republican governors banning mask mandates saying he is looking into whether he can do anything to stop them from the federal level but he is not alone in fighting back. local schools, medical professionals and community leaders are fighting, too. two of them are with me tonight. a teacher and the president of the texas state teachers association, and dr. thomas trueman, a pediatric critical care physician at tallahassee medical health care. good evening to both of you. dr. truman, you're there in tallahassee. i know you've been advising the school district that the county summit announced they are going
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against governor desantis and putting into place a mask mandate for pre k through eighth grade based on the advice you gave him. what did they ask you and how did you advise them? >> well, first, thanks for having me on tonight. yeah. the school summit for leon county called me and we had a really good conversation about what i thought was best for the kids of our community. what would keep them the safest when it is so important for them to return to school very soon. and we discussed the worrisome trend of covid throughout the state. the crisis that we're in. the positivity rates that we're seeing. not only in the state but certainly in our community. and discussed the american academy of pediatric recommendations, and putting all of those together. it just makes the most sense to
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me. and great percentage of the pediatricians in our community to have the mask mandate at least temporarily, until we get more data and see how we are down the road. this is just, there's too much covid out right now to be taking a step back. >> i want to play something for you. and get your take on what governor desantis said today in response to president biden looking into ways that he can stop states from blocking mask mandates. here it is. >> i think that they really believe government should rule over the parents' decisions. and i think the parents' decisions in this regard should be what is done. the fact of the matter is the parents are in the best position to know what is best for their kids. >> so dr. sherman, he is trying to set up this dichotomy of parents versus the federal government. you're a pediatric doctor. what is the best way to protect
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kids from covid? >> this is a wealth of information about protecting people and certainly kids from covid. and that is, good hand hygiene, vaccinate if you're an eligible age group, and certainly masks. masks have undoubtedly been shown to prevent spread. especially with the prevalence is so high in the community. >> dr. truman, thank you for your time. we'll have you back as this continues to move on. we appreciate it. now i want to bring in a teacher and the president of the texas state teachers association. thank you for joining us. the governor in your state is also using this quote/unquote parental right against mask mandates. what do you hear from your communities? do they want masks? >> thank you for having the conversation. yes. our parents are reaching out to us, to their school districts. they're wanting their students
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safe. they want their kids safe. >> the cdc says texas is a high risk location for covid. there's high community transmission in almost the entire state. what are you hearing from teachers? are you hearing they're worried for their own safety? >> the anxiety that they're feeling is similar to when we were starting the pandemic. it is the uncertainty of who is vaccinated, who is not, who is safe, who is not. and the responsibility that we have to keep our students safe. we know that our students that are under 12 years old cannot get the vaccine. so we are asking our governor to help us keep them safe and he's not listening to us. we are afraid that our students will get sick. we are going to get sick, our families will get sick and then we'll take it out into the community. because we'll be around more people because more of our students are coming back because
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our state didn't fund virtual learning the way they did before. >> a judge granted a temporary restraining order against the governor, allowing them on issue mask mandates in schools. do you think this is the only way to fight against the governor's policies at this point? >> the governor has left our school districts, our parents, our localities no other choice. when he took away masks in may, things were looking better. and the governor can easily say, you know what? in may it was looking better. i was planning for the best but things are not better. things are worse. and i want to ensure our students are safe so i'll change my mind and allow local school districts to decide when they need to use masks. >> other school districts in texas are going against governor abbott. austin and dallas are implementing mask mandates despite him. the governor's office releasing a statement saying he has spent his entire life in office fighting for the rights and
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freedoms of all texans. wouldn't freedom be to let local districts decide what is best for them? >> that's exactly it. in a state where local control is so much celebrated, this is a case where local control needs to be had. our school districts know what is happening in their communities. they're talking to health officials. they're talking on people who know what is happening in their communities to be able to make the best decisions for our students, our educators in those communities. >> dr. fauci really making some news saying he now believes in vaccine mandates in some places, or mask mandates. he is saying he believes teachers should be required to get the vaccine. as the president of the texas state teachers association, do you agree? >> we are highly encouraging all of our educators, our community members to get the vaccine if they're able to. we understand there will be some instances where somebody cannot get the vaccine. but the more people that have the vaccine, the safer we'll be.
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we're also asking for all the precautions that were had in the last school year that our exs the education agency said we didn't have as many cases last year. that's because we had masks and more precautions. and our state needs to ensure our kids are safe. >> thank you. so for your time. we appreciate it. be safe. >> thank you. the republican legislature tried to pass six bills that would make it harder to vote and he vetoed them all. wisconsin's governor next. honey, i'm home! honey! scuff defense. i love our scuff-free life. behr ultra scuff defense. exclusively at the home depot.
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. 30 new restrictive laws have been passed for voting. today in wisconsin tony evers vetoed six bills from the legislature that among other things would have made it harder to vote. the governor calling out the efforts to limit access to voting earlier. >> we were reminded on january 6th and again today that they worked to enact legislation like the other states, how preshlgs our democracy is and how quickly it can be taken away. we are reminded that it isn't something that just happens for us. we choose to make it every day. >> while the wisconsin governor
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tony evers joins me now, thank you for joining me. my first question is, if you hadn't vetoed these bills, what would they have done in terms of voting rights? >> oh, thanks for having me, it would have made it difficult. people that are indefinitely confined or people in nursing homes, people that are physically disabled, all those people were in the cross hairs of the republican legislature. making it more difficult for them. so absolutely. if i hadn't vetoed these bills, it would be a slippery slope going forward and it still will be. i'm in a position to stand up for democracy and for making sure that people have their eligible people have the right to vote. we should be encouraging people instead of discouraging them. >> it is no secret to you and anybody else that business business is one of the key
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battle ground states. and republicans are trying to audit the votes there. protesters demanding it just last week even though there was no meaningful fraud or errors found in 2020. they even held a rally the vote. >> we have one legislator trying to take control. she went down to visit the ninja turtles and came back real excited about what they're doing there. she issued a subpoena to two of our counties to send everything you've got. your machines and everything else. and frankly, it was an illegal, illegal subpoena. it is not going to happen. and you talked about it. we've had numerous court cases. we've had all sorts of studies. we've had audits from our local
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people. it was one best elections ever. bill barr said it at the national level. it happened here, too. our election was fair and it was a great race. happy joe biden won but at the end of the day, everybody knows it was a good election, a fair election. >> you were able to veto these bills. democrats are finding it out in republican led states where they fled to delay passage of similar bills. wisconsin and 35 other states have gubernatorial elections 2022. are state governors going to be the last line of defense here? >> yes. they are. and i am in wisconsin. believe me, if i'm not in this position after 2022, all the bills i vetoed will come back in play and whatever republican governor is in place, will let them happen and will encourage the bills to happen. so yes, we are the last people
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standing here. and that's why it is so important for people to understand, governorship is really important work. and it goes beyond what happens on a daily basis, making sure we're fixing the roads and other things people can see. this is about a democracy, don. and i will stand for democracy at any time and i will stand for our ability to make sure that the people in wisconsin that are eligible to vote, they should be voting. >> before i let you go, i have to talk about new york's governor, andrew cuomo resigning today over the allegations of sexual harassment against him. what is your reaction? >> certainly we have to applaud the women who came forward. this is a real watershed moment for our country, frankly. i know it impacted just new york state but i think it impacted the entire country. and it tells me that we need to
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make sure that we listen to women that bring these allegations forward. they're truthful and there are consequences to bad behavior. and we just saw that play out. the system works, unfortunately we were in a position that we had to call on the system on work. >> governor evers, thank you for your time. best of luck. >> thanks a lot. take care. >> thank you. so cuomo is out. hotchum is in. take a look at the next new york governor after this. have you checked your credit? i got like a free score from some app or something like that. but lenders don't even use that score. creditrepair.com has a free credit snapshot that can show you exactly what's happening with your credit score. and killing my interest rates. well, great seats though. -thank you. -like really. just knowing your score won't improve it. instead, work to actually fix your credit with creditrepair.com.
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a new new york governor set to inherit a political land scape that has been dominated by quoel cuomo for more than a decade. his replacement, kathy hochul will be the first female governor there. an indication that she will run for a full term in 2022. more on the incoming governor. >> kathy hochul, soon to be the empire state's new governor. its 57th and the first woman to take reins. >> she is very ready. in some weird way she's been preparing for this without knowing it. >> reporter: the 62-year-old mother of two, married 37 years, will now oversee more than 20
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million citizens, a $1.5 trillion economy, all still recovering from the pandemic. >> jackie hochul, my lieutenant governor, is smart and competent. we have a lot going on but she can come up to speed quickly. >> now she and her staff says one state official, with direct knowledge of the administration, have already been charting out the first days and months of the task ahead. how to spend billions of dollars of covid-19 relief from the federal government and reviewing personnel decisions and executive orders signed by andrew cuomo that expire when he leaves office. i agree with governor cuomo's decision to step down. it is the right thing to do and in the best interests of new yorkers, he tweeted today. as someone who has served at all levels of government and is next in line of succession. i am prepared to lead as new york state's 57th governor. >> i know for 100% fact. she's ready to go.
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she knows how to govern. and she knows how to listen to the people. >> hochul's name may be unknown to many nationwide but here she has served at the local, county, national and statewide levels. she is known to new york. >> she knows literally all the leaders, all the issues, and all 62 counties. >> kathy will represent you. >> hochul ran on cuomo's slate in 2014 but the two had not spoken directly for months, says one official. those who know her say she's been charting her own path for years. >> in the last four years,or three years, i don't believe there is been much of a relationship. she just plowed on. >> with cuomo's dominating style of governance coming to an end, kathy hochul quietly building political relationships for years may have the political wind at her back. >> you will see elected officials again at every level of government really gravitate
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of course. here it is. >> it's a weird thing, sean. there is a herd mentality among congressional democrats that they obey chuck schumer and their only answer is sir, yes, sir. >> really, ted cruz? that coming from one of the biggest yes men of the former president. senator cruz and almost 150 congressional republicans going so far to please the former president by voting to overturn the 2020 presidential election on january 6th with absolutely no proof of fraud or rigging. he went with the herd on the big lie. and even after the one-term, twice-impeached, two-time popular vote-losing former president left office, senator cruz is one of many republicans still trying to kiss the ring. >> and they look at donald j. trump and they look at the millions and millions of people inspired who went to battle
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fighting alongside president trump and they're terrified! and they want him to go away. let me tell you this right now. donald j. trump ain't going anywhere. >> okay. senator cruz's herd instincts, herding instincts are so strong that he moved on from trump attacking his wife and suggesting his father had something to do with the kennedy assassination. remember this? >> i don't get angry often. but you mess with my wife, you mess with my kids, that'll do it every time. donald, you're a sniffling coward, and leave heidi the hell alone. >> herd mentality is alive and well in washington. but it is just not where senator cruz says it is. thanks for watching. our coverage continues.
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good evening. in what has been a remarkable fall after a disturbing report on the sexual harassment investigation that he himself authorized, three-term new york governor andrew cuomo announced his resignation today. >> the best way i can help now is if i step aside and let government get back to governing. and therefore, that's what i'll do. because i work for you. and doing the right thing is doing the right thing for you. >> he said those words, that he's leaving effective two weeks from today, more than 12 minutes into his remarks. during that time he took issue with his 11 accusers, recasting their allegations to better suit his far more favorable view of
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