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california governor ordering regular testing for all teachers and other personnel statewide. in texas, counties defied orders from their governor and imposed mask mandates. dallas county the latest today. >> governor abbott and some people in there political party following president trump has politicized this masking, public health and vaccination when there is no politics. the virus doesn't care what your politics are. what your political party is, how you feel about any issue. >> that is dallas county judge clay jenkins. he'll be joining us shortly. first breaking vaccine news first, chief medical correspond dr. sanjay gupta and the distributor of minnesota center for disease and research and policy.

sanjay, the news that the fda is expected to give authorization. for a third dose. can you explain what that means and who you think would be eligible? >> yeah. i think we're talking nine to ten million people here, three to four percent of the population. whose immune systems are weakened because of under lying disease of medications they are taking. for example, cancer patients who are getting chemotherapy or transplant recipients who have to take immuno suppressive drugs. nine to ten million people. let me hoe you what this might mean for transplant recipients specifically. this study looked at what was the effect of a third shot, and if we have the graphic we can show that, but basically we saw what happened after a single shot and we saw a significant increase overall in antibodies with that third shot. and they compared that in this particularly study, which they have the graph we'll show it. you can look it up.

>> i don't think they have the graphic. >> ok. so they had a placebo they compared it to and saw no change with the placebo. this is what it's about. basically, this are idea that people who did not mount as strong an antibody response actually did get significant benefit by getting that third shot. >> what do you think it means for people who received the one dose of the johnson & johnson vaccine? >> i hope they address this. i think it's really important. wie heard, for example, in communities like san francisco that have made a shot of moderna or pfizer available to those who received the single shot johnson & johnson. about 22 million people in the country received johnson & johnson. we don't know what percentage of them have this -- are also immunocompromised. i hope they address this. we have waning protection with the johnson & johnson shot. this should be part of the discussion.

>> professor, how do you think the update will roll this out. do people go to the pharmacy and say they're immuno compromised? do they have to have a note from a doctor? will doctors give the third dose? how does it work? >> this is an important consideration and it's not been worked out yet. we have people who really need the additional immunization versus those who just want it. the world health organization put out a statement calling on a moratorium on booster doses for these people who don't have the this kind of immune condition. but want a third dose. this isn't a booster, this is a third dose of a three-dose series that immune compromised people should get. we have to work this out. i think people are going back to their primary doctors so that the record management will be complete. and people will get permission to do that.

>> sanjay, a study by johns hopkins researchers found that they're 485 times more likely to end up in the hospital or die compared to those vaccinated. why did experts think they'd be protected and might not need this third dose and why did it apparently turn out -- didn't turn out that way? >> i think in the beginning it wasn't clear how much immunity response these people would generate. i mean, keep in mind we're measuring with the body. it's a fairly easy thing to measure. the question was was there immunity jen rated in the body by these vaccines in the form of t-cells and b-cells. it is pretty clear now that if you're vaccinated and immunocompromised you're far more likely to be getting severely ill if you become

infected. we talk about herd immunity. was to say we know not everybody -- i think the data has become pretty clear on this. why didn't they anticipate this? part of it is what they didn't know. but we talk about this term herd immunity. part of the herd immunity was to say we know not everyone's going to get protected. if we get enough protection we can essentially form a herd of protection around those who are vulnerable. when you get to that point in the country, and that's why we're having this discussion now. >> when it comes to kids, how concerned are you that 494,000 new covid cases in children in the week ending august 5th. is this part of the so-called category five hurricane you thought might happen earlier this year? >> i think this entire surge is part of what we're concerned about. and i appreciate the fact we keep talking about when we hit 60 or 62% of the population vaccinated.

if you look at the united kingdom or israel where they have higher levels of people vaccinated. israel had the highest number of cases reported today than during the entire pandemic. yet they have these high levels of vaccination. we have to vaccinate virtually everyone or someone will likely know a covid-related outcome. kids we're seeing it in spades today. the viruses, particularly as we talk about delta is highly infectious in children. we do need vaccines as soon as possible. they are working on that, getting the dosing down to assure the safety. but as any of us know, that can't come soon enough. >> so when you say the delta variant is highly infectious in children, is it more -- i mean, do children -- are they more vulnerable to the delta variant than they were to what originally we were dealing with here in the united states and, i mean, i heard one doctor in an interview saying that what they're seeing is more i think

it was particularly lung cases with children. she said kids are getting hit harder. is that actually, factually -- do we know that nationwide? >> let's break that into two separate issues. one is is it more transmissible. i can tell you when we were dealing with the strains of the virus last year when much of the data was collected about ow infectious it is in kids, we saw very often very little transmission from kids to others. the conclusion was made it's not very infectious. the alpha variant came around and changed that. we had a number of outside breaks here in minnesota. tied to youth sports. with delta we're seeing that the transmission in kids are at least that. we're not saying that it's more, we're seeing it now has not been restrained for some reason as a year ago. the severity of illness is still an open question. it's possible that this is more severe.

it doesn't take anyone to think twice about the fact that what it is doing right now is in fact a major, major health problem. as you know, you're seeing -- your network has broadcasts from these hospitals around the country showing just the impact that this is having on kids in children's hospitals. >> sanjay, just briefly, do we know about long covid in children and the delta variant? do we just not have enough studies at this point? >> i don't think we have enough data. i'm glad you raise it. i think often times he measure these things in terms of who has lived or who has died. people say this is not a serious illness in children. i don't think we know. i think michael you will strum would agree with me. you don't want this virus. there is so much about it we don't know, no matter what. >> thank you, appreciate it. >> thank you. >> live reports from two of the hardest hit states, florida, and texas. governors are resisting mask

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as you probably know, florida's governor is one of several who have barred mandatory masking. even as the evidence grows as we learned in our last hour that having kids mask up at school can prevent most of the spread of the virus. several counties in florida defied him on this. now looks like both sides might be softening somewhat. the governor finds himself at odds with the white house on ventilators for his state's overburned icus. we have more on this. desantis spoke today at a school alongside teachers and educators. what did he have to say? >> he has always said that masking in schools should be left up to the parents, it should be their choice, not the federal government. they say if the government plans to step in he would fight against that.

he tried to play down the fact that covid and the delta variant is having on children. listen to this. >> what we have in florida is we have about 1.3% of the covid positive patients that are hospitalized are pediatric cases and for the whole pandemic, we've been between 1.1 and 1.4% of the census at any given time has been pediatrics. there's been no change in the proportion of pediatric patients who are covid positive. >> and anderson, we actually checked the governor's math. it's not quite right. according to the cdc about 2% of covid patients hospitalized throughout the whole pandemic here in the state of florida are pediatric patients. he said 1.1 to is.4%. the cdc is saying it's higher. right now there are about 200 children hospitalized with covid here in the state of florida. >> what about the schools right

now? >> well, the governor as you know, issued that executive order last month saying you can't have a mask mandate? schools. many counties have gone ahead with the mask mandate including here, but they don't have any type of rules around that mask mandate. so anyone can opt out of it. but in three counties in the state, you actually have to have a medical reason or a doctor's note to opt out. today one of those three counties, leon county, where tallahassee is, actually reversed that and said parents can opt out for any reason. part of this is because the governor and the education commissioner threatened to take with hold funding and take away the salaries to have superintendent and the school board and in a letter, the education commissioner actually threatened to remove the school board. to superintendent and the school board didn't want to lose their jobs so they rolled that back. now we'll have to see what the other two counties who have

those mask mandates in place with that medical reason for the opt out, we'll see what they have to do. right now they're under investigation for noncompliance. anderson. >> there was a story about ventilators that were sent to florida. >> right. the governor was asked about these ventilators yesterday. he said he was unaware of the request for the ventilators. he'd have to check and he doubts that was true. well, cnn has confirmed that hundreds of ventilators were sent by the biden administration to the state of florida earlier this week and katelyn collins was told that the white house says it doesn't send ventilator to states without their interest in receiving them. in other words, somebody must have requested them, whether it was the governor's office or the state health department. they weren't just sent randomly, according to the white house but the governor has not addressed that. hasn't cleared up how the ventilators ended up here, anderson. >> randy kaye. appreciate it. texas, where the governor

promised to bring in medical personnel out of state. not reversing his order. public health experts seem confused. >> when you have authorities for reasons that -- and i can't explain. is it political, is it libertarian? what is it? how can you prevent the local authorities from doing what it takes to protect the children for what reason is more important than protecting the health of the children? >> in a moment, the top elected official in dallas county fighting governor abbott on this, first ed lavendera joins us. what are you hearing about what officials need? >> hospital officials across the state that i've spoken with today are sounding the alarm in a way that i haven't heard, even in the worse days of the pandemic in this state. there are more than 10,000

people hospitalized with coronavirus. this has spiked dramatically and quickly. these are numbers we have not seen since late january, early february. there are just under 370 available icu beds across the state and some regions are reporting single digit number of icu beds available and the ceo of the harris county health district in houston speaking to state lawmakers today said that the state is headed for a medical catastrophe if urgent action isn't taken soon and he says he's frightened about what's coming in the weeks ahead. >> there is no intervention out there that i am hearing about from the state or anyone else that is going to have an impact on those numbers anytime soon. if this continues, and i have no reason to believe that it will not, there is no way my hospital is going to be able to handle this.

there is no way the region is going to be able to ham this. handle this. >> and hospital executive also described a scene in one of his hospitals this week where there were 30 different coronavirus patients in need of icu care who were waiting in an emergency room lobby. in some cases it took 30 hours to get those patients into a room. meanwhile, the governor of texas insists that the time for mask mandates is over. he has once again talked about how it is the personal responsibility or texans across the state to get the virus under control. but you see once again, the struggle between local officials in the state and the state leaders. >> we've seen -- talked to local county officials in dallas county seeking to defy the governor on the mask mandates. how has the governor responded? >> well, you're really seeing an open revolt from county officials, school superintendents across the state

who have been issuing mask requirements. the governor and the attorney general here have filed a petition to block the dallas county mask requirement. they're calling all these local officials activist characters and they're vowing to take any of them to court if they continue to issue mask requirements. >> thank you. at the center of this, judge clay jenkins. i want to thank you for being with us. what is your reaction to the petition to block the mask mandate you issued earlier today. how do you respond? >> well, the courts will deal with that. what has happened is thus far the courts have agreed with us that the governor doesn't have the authority to stop an emergency response. he has the authority to suspend certain regulatory laws to make it easier, for instance, for nurses and doctors from out of state to practice here, but not to stop an emergency response.

>> in his statement, the texas attorney general essentially called you not by name an activist character and attention grabbing judge. it certainly doesn't help the situation we're in right now to be kind of hurling effective like that. what does it say about the state and public health? >> well, this is not about democrats and republicans. we should all be on team public health. that virus doesn't care with what your politics or anything else is. it's relentlessly looking for a host. and so i don't want to get into that, the name game or the blame game with people. i'm listening to what our doctors and the cdc are telling us, which is we are in a state of crisis and we have to act quickly and we need to put masks on people in public settings. today in the metroplex with 7.7 million people, a 19-county area, we had two pediatric icu

beds open for anything, car crashes, cancer, anything. our doctors are making it better for adults. our doctors are making decisions now on caring for people that would have been unthought of two or three weeks ago. the time to act is now, not when it's even worse. >> you signed the executive order this afternoon. what is your next step? >> so the next step is starting tomorrow, all students in public schools, childcare centers and pre-k will be wearing a mask. all shoppers and employees in -- or customers and employees and businesses will be wearing masks and people in county buildings will be wearing a mask. and that the doctors will help slow the spread, give them a little bit more time. what's happened in texas is the governor stopped supporting the hospitals with temporary staff.

that staff has gone to other states and headhunters have taken staff from our hospitals, further increasing the problem. the people in our hospitals have been working nonstop for 19 months. they are retiring early in record numbers. although the numbers in our hospitals are currently lower than they were at the peak, the bed to staff ratio or doctor and nurse to patient ratio has never been worse in the history of north texas. >> so the governor, as i mentioned, made an announcement today that over 2500 medical personnel will be deployed to hospitals around texas to care for the increasing number of patients. how do you square that action with -- is that enough? and how do you square that with his edict about masking? >> you can't square these two things. the doctors help but it takes after them toe get there. this is a race against the virus

to give us enough bed capacity so we can avert catastrophe. look, here's my view and it's real simple. the virus doesn't care about politics. so we need to listen to those adults who have trained their entire adult life to advice us in these moments and that's the doctors and they are all uniformly, including the governor when he had health advisors telling us the same thank. -- thing. masking indoors is critical to saving lives at this time. we need to do it. >> i appreciate your time, thank you. >> thank you. >> coming up next, a member of congress who may see the former president's tax returns after a major decision about the privacy of those records. details ahead.

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a federal judge decided that house democrats on the house committee they may indeed see several years of his returns as part of an investigation into foreign payments and possible violation of the emoluments clause. which forbids payments. it involved a hotel on federal property. the committee has presented evidence that president trump at least through his business interest likely received foreign payments during the term of his presidency. in what was a partial victory for the former president, the judge limited the subpoena for tax returns to the years he was in office. i'm joined by a member of congress. what is your reaction with regard to the ruling today? >> anderson, i thought the judge issue a careful narrowly tailored ruling. he had two basic findings that

trump admitted to reimbursing the treasury $400,000. of foreign payments. and the judge says the american people deserve to know what foreign payments did he receive. that's why we need his tax returns. perfectly reasonable. i think the american public would want to know. second, the judge said trump had a deal for his hotel with the government, the government contract said that no government official should ever benefit from the deal. obviously, trump was president. he was benefitting from the deal. we should find out whether that contract was legal and whether trump should have divested from that property. >> were you disappointed that >> when the former president was in office and not going back to 2011 at the oversight committee originally saw it? >> i was. i believe it's relevant, the prior tax returns to seeing whether he had a financial interest in foreign engames and foreign activities, but it's

what shows that the judge was careful and fair. he had the narrowest possible ruling and he said what is certainly relevant are the tax returns while trump was president and that's why i think the ruling will stand even if the former president appeals it. >> the judge did specific refute the argument from the former president's allies that the committee is on a baseless fishing expedition, which is what they had said and that there was quote detailed and substantial evidence that they likely received payments during the term of his presidency. in order -- are you -- does -- for there to actually be a violation, does there have to be proof that not just foreign money was received from foreign guests staying at the hotel or that they were overcharged but that that actually resulted in some sort of foreign policy decision or legislation? >> i think if there is a tie between the money that was received and any influence on a

foreign policy decision, obviously, that is the most blatant violation. but short of that, if you have evidence that trump was receiving compensation beyond the market rate, that also is deeply concerning. the oversight committee is one of the most careful committees. i often want to move fast oar. faster than the committee staff. they are very deliberate. they don't overrate. the judge's decision was a vindication of how carefully they prepared this. they had the evidence of why we deserve those tax returns for legitimate purposes. >> jerry conley tweeted out something. i want to read it. he said we'll see tax returns, that's a good thing. we issued the subpoena two years ago that he was able to run out the clock and avoid accountability. it's an abject failure. how concerned are you that the former president is out of the white house and never had to face this really head on.

>> it did take too long, anderson, because our system wasn't designed for someone like donald trump. every president before that complied. they would put it in a blind trust, disclose their tax returns. a lot of our constitutional democracy depend on norms that both democrats and republicans follow. obvious lip trump flouted them and it's taken years for our legal system to catch up with that. now we know it's possible, what congress needs to do is enact laws so that this never happens again. disclosure, while i think every elected official should have to disclose any foreign payments that you're receiving while in office. that would be one reform that would prevent this. >> i appreciate your time. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> up next, the other big battle in texas. a new blidh to pressure democrats who abandoned the state house to stop a voting rights overhaul. the question is will they be forced to return? we'll talk to a texas leading democrat next. at philadelphia, we know what makes

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texas democratic lawmakers now face civil arrest warrants. many remain outside texas. otherwise it would clear the way for pass on of a voting rights bill which they consider to be nothing more than voting suppression. while it would force them to be back, they are not criminal arrest warrants. state representative with me now, chris turner chairs the texas house democratic caucus. you're currently in texas. how concerned are you that you might be arrested and brought to the capitol? >> evening, anderson. i'm not concerned. the speaker did sign civil arrest warrants as you pointed out. so far those warrants have only been handed over to the house sergeant at arms who visited all of our capitol offices today is my understanding. i wasn't there to see it but that's my understanding of what happened. to my knowledge, that's the extent of what has happened so far. so i'm not concerned this is a civil matter. not a criminal one. so in our view there's really

not a role for law enforcement to play here. >> so some of your democratic colleagues are still in washington trying to prevent the republicans and the state from passing voting restrictions. how long does this continue? i mean, you returned -- you still have i guess enough who are still out of state to stop there from being a quorum, is that correct? >> well, there's -- it's a 20 or last day in washington, most members left over the weekend at the end of the first special session, which ended last friday. we stay in washington until that session was over to kill the bill in that session. that's what we did. we also don't see a reason to go back to the house right away when greg abbott has called another special session that's nothing more than a 30 day campaign commercial for his re-election campaign. we're not interested in helping

them pass an anti-voter bill. we're going to continue to use our voices to argue for federal voting rights legislation. frankly, a lot of us -- all of us have work to do in our communities to combat the covid-19 crisis that is unfolding across the states, thanks unfortunately to greg abbott's failed leadership on this issue. you were talking with my friend dallas county judge clay jenkins about that. get people wearing masks and combat the spread of this pandemic, which is spreading like wildfire right now in texas. >> regarding the voting rights, you stead way this has to end is democrats in washington passing a federal voting rights bill. senate democrats tried to pass another bill last night and were blocked by republicans. there don't seem to be the votes. kite go on indefinitely. >> you're right. that's what i've said, that that's how this has to end is congress has to enact strong

voting rights acts. we're encouraged. there was no surprise how that vote was going to turn out. we knew republicans would vote along party lines. ted cruz did it himself. someone who's defended a lot of anti-voter laws from his time in the attorney general's office. so what hopefully that vote does and what it should do is pave the way for senate democrats to say, you know, we tried work with republicans on this. they're not interested in being by partisan. now it's time to revisit the senate rules and decide how we're going to get a bill passed in the u.s. senate when we come back in september. that's number one. number two, there's very good news on the house side in that the u.s. house -- the majority leader, steny hoyer said yesterday that the house would come back the week of august 23rd and is likely to take up hr 4.

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if that role. i will fight like hell for you every single day, like i've always done and always will. >> the 62-year-old speaking publicly to new yorkers in her first news conference since governor andrew cuomo promised a different kind of leadership. >> immediately setting herself apart from cuomo. >> i think it's very clear that the governor and i have not been close. no one who is named doing anything unethical in the report will remain in my administration. >> she's no stranger to politics. holding offices from the u.s. house of representatives to county clerk. the transition of covering a state of about 20 million people. at a challenging time. the pandemic, hochul says, will be the. top priority.

make sure we overcome the worries. with 16 months heft left in the term, she says in a one-on-one interview she plans to stick around. >> we understand you've formed a political team. does this mean you're going to seek a full term in 2022? >> yes. it's not the time to talk politics but i am prepared to run for re-election. i'll begin the process as soon as we get everything under control in the state. >> cuomo said he would step aside after mounting calls for him to resign. based on the attorney general report. sa saying he harassed multiple women. claims he denies. the governor expressing confidence in his successor tuesday. >> kathy is smart and competence. this transition must be seamless. >> she said she's intent on leaving the controversy behind. she'll be coming in with a conflict of the interest. her husband is general counsel,

senior vice president and secretary of the buffalo-based hospitality and gaming company delaware north and could be impacted by his wife's calls being made from the executive office >> i have a policy in place since i was lieutenant governor. >> that's >> and in that one-on-one interview i had after that news conference, i asked her does she think the governor should be impeached? or was his resignation enough? and hochul said that she isn't in a position to comment on that, or interfere with the process but she says she has full faith in lawmakers. as far as that impeachment process, anderson, the judiciary committee is going to meet, again, on monday to discuss what the possible, next steps could be. or what that will look like. they have received all of the documents from the attorney general's report. and a source telling cnn, all options are on the table. anderson. >> brynn gingras, appreciate it. thank you. coming up, u.s. troops are leaving after divan stan. but they may not be the only

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how do things look on your end? -perfect! because we're building a better network every single day. for americans, afghanistan has been this nation's longest war but with that war coming to an end, the taliban is quickly rampaging through afghanistan, town by town. nine provincial capitals have been overrun just since friday. now, a senior administration official familiar with the u.s. intelligence assessment warns that afghanistan's capital city, kabul, could be isolated by the taliban in as soon as a month. that's where our chief international correspondent, clarissa ward joins me, tonight. clarissa, the speed with which the taliban is recapturing/retaking cities territory is -- is really stunning. not perhaps, all that surprising. but it's remarkable that, after all this time, in which the u.s.

was pouring in, you know, billions and billions of dollars to build up the afghan police, build up the afghan-national army. they're just collapsing, it seems, in the face of this. >> yeah. i mean, and that's certainly what we've been seeing, on the ground, anderson. we just got back from a trip to a city and we drove past an afghan army checkpoint. it was taking fire from a taliban sniper in a nearby position. and we literally watched afghan soldiers running down from the base. they hailed a civilian car, jumped into it, and drove off. and the next day, when we returned through the same checkpoint, there were, still, afghan soldiers manning the checkpoint but they were wearing civilian clothes because they are trying to keep a very low profile. and i think that really speaks to the sense of morale or the lack of morale within the afghan army. there's the sense that they know that they're losing. and most prominently, they don't want to die, anderson. that's the crucial difference between them and the taliban.

the taliban are ready to die. the afghan army don't want to die. >> how are things in -- in kabul? i mean, are people panicking? is it -- how is it -- what is it like there? >> so, i don't think we're at panic, yet. but it's grim, anderson. it's definitely grim. the writing is on the wall. i think, at this stage. you know, we have heard all sorts of predictions. it could fall in a matter of -- of months and i think it's a little early to predict when kabul might fall. but certainly, it's not looking good. and there is a lot of fear about what comes next. how do people get out of the country? how do they protect their families? will they be targeted by the taliban? can they go into hiding? and there's resentment, too, not because i think people do understand that they can't rely on the u.s. to sort of stay here, forever. but there is a sense among a lot of people, particularly in kabul, that the way in which this withdrawal was carried out was somehow hasty. it was chaotic. there weren't enough sort of measures put into place to ensure that the taliban had to

meet certain conditions, before that withdrawal would be complete. and now, we're looking down the barrel three weeks left or whatever it is. and, yeah, people here are very frightened about what happens next. >> do you think the taliban will take over -- be able to take over the entire country? will there be pockets, like kabul or, you know, in the past even when the taliban was there, there was the northern alliance which, you know, relied on warlords and -- and their forces. >> so, president ashraf ghani is trying to get the warlords involved, again. we have seen that happening, already. yesterday, he also called on ordinary people to take up arms. to go and join the various militias and launch a kind of popular uprising. i mean, the risk you have there is that the thing becomes even more fragmented, right? and you are not just trying to get two people to sit down at the negotiating table, potentially, in a year's time. you might be trying to get five different people to sit down at the negotiating table. what i don't think is clear,

yet. i think the taliban believes, from what we've seen and heard, that they can win an outright victory. but it's not completely clear, to me, yet, whether they want to, indeed, take kabul. take the entire country over. i do, still, think the one bit of leverage that the u.s. has in terms of the peace talks in doha other than the air strikes is the idea of recognition by the international community. i don't believe the taliban wants to be an international pariah, once again, as it was in the '90s. now, at the same time, how far does that go? does that mean they are willing to make key compromises, key concessions? at this stage, it's not looking good, anderson. >> clarissa ward, appreciate you being there. thank you so much. >> thanks. i want to let you know about a special event that's taking place in new york city to try to celebrate the city's efforts to re-open after the pandemic shutdown. elvis costello, patty smith, earth wind and fire will all be at stage at central park along

with more great musicians. you can watch "we love new york city the homecoming concert" saturday, august 21st, exclusively on cnn. the news continues. want to turn things over to don for "don lemon tonight." hello, everyone. thanks for joining us. this is "don lemon tonight." and i've got to get right into this. okay? and i want you to really pay attention to this because it's -- you have to see what's happening around the country. chaos. what is going on with a lot of americans when it comes to wearing masks to stem the spread of covid, especially mask mandates for children who are heading back to school? it's turning so many people into angry lunatics, quite frankly. last night, the williamston county school -- school board voted to -- in favor of having children in their elementary schools wear masks. okay? and after the meeting, one man who spoke out in favor of the mandate was verbally assaulted in the parking lot. police officers had to make sure that he got to his car safely. i want you to take a look at the verbal abuse heaped on that man. here it is