might down the road pass legal muster. the supreme court didn't have oral arguments, it was an emergency motion, but it sends a strong signal for these vaccine mandates going forward. >> very interesting and very interesting for those college students heading off to college very soon. thanks so much. i'm jim acosta. thank you very much for watching tonight. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. "outfront" next, the cdc warning that 90% of the counties in america now meet the standard for masking indoors. as more vaccine mandates go into effect tonight, can the united states slow down the rapid spread in the surgeon general is my guest tonight. plus, the u.s. now sending thousands more troops to afghanistan to help evacuate americans, as the security situation deteriorates by the hour. top pentagon official is "outfront," and he's a little known congressman from pennsylvania, but he played a

crucial role in pushing trump's big lie. who is he and how much power does he have? you'll find out. let's go "outfront." and good evening. i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, ringing alarm bells. that is the warning from one governor as covid hospitalizations rise in the united states. as americans await the authorization of a third vaccine shot for some immunocompromised people to start off that. is expected to come in next 24 hours. right now, the cdc director warning the situation is getting worse. >> now, over 90% of counties in the united states are experiencing substantial transmission, and we have been saying, by far, people at highest risk are those not yet vaccinated. >> and that is evident in some of the states with the lowest vaccination rates in the united states. the louisiana department of health is reporting its highest

number of hospitalizations at any point since the pandemic began. mississippi is also surpassing its prior record of covid hospitalizations, prompting the governor of kentucky to say this. >> what we are seeing just to the south, which we always see first, we saw it last summer, we've seen it at other times, ought to be ringing alarm bells throughout this commonwealth. we never thought we would see ourselves at a point like that again. >> talking about mississippi in the south. look, many of us did not -- well, we all hoped we would not be here again, right? but we are, thanks to the 41.1% of eligible americans, or eligible people in this country who have not gotten vaccinated. and thanks to some republican governors most vocally the ones of florida and texas, trying to ban mask mandates.

>> in the past week, florida has had more covid cases than all 30 states with the lowest case rates combined. and florida and texas alone have accounted for nearly 40% of new hospitalizations across the country. >> and the problem right now is not just for adults. >> this isn't about politics, this is about keeping our children safe. >> well, the number of new hospitalizations of children with covid is up 21% over the past week alone. now, some lawmakers in the u.s. are taking a stand to try to save children and the rest of us tonight. virginia's governor announced an indoor mask requirement in all k-12 schools. and that's just among some of them. in utah, they just said you can't do that. jeff zeleny is "outfront" at the white house.

how concerned is the white house about these rising hospitalization numb sers? >> reporter: there's no doubt the white house and joe biden is focused on those hospitalizations, specifically in those states. you heard the covid advisers talking about the cases in florida, in texas, across the south. the mississippi hospital system on the cusp of failing. so the white house, without a doubt, is watching these rising hospitalization rates. but they're also worried about a variety of other things, including the increasing harsh politics about all this. the president speaking again today for the first time, you know, specific chi about these school board meetings when there are fights breaking out. health care workers being assaulted. so that is another thing the white house is definitely worried about. but also about the fact of boosters. boosters, the white house walked up to the edge of saying that people who are immune compromised will be soon urged to receive boosters and the rest of the public may not be far behind. so those are all the things on

the plate, certainly the biden administration is headed back to wilmington to resume the summer vacation. erin, this covid fire is raging significantly. the pandemic is politicized, and there is no correct end in sight. they're wondering if the end of the summer will look worse than it does now. >> jeff zeleny, thank you very much. i want to go "outfront" now to the u.s. surgeon general. so dr. murphy, i want to start with the overall picture in the united states. 90% of counties in america are now showing substantial or high levels of community transmission. mississippi and louisiana, as i mentioned, surpassed their own records for hospitalizations. florida and texas account for nearly 40% of new hospitalizations across america. how concerned are you right now, doctor? >> well, i'm deeply concerned. you look at these numbers day in and day out. and behind those numbers are the stories of individuals getting

sick, families that are despairing, and people who are hospitalized and losing their lives. that is so deeply troubling to see, especially now we're a year and a half into the pandemic. but the good news, and this is really important, erin, the good news is we know how to get through this. the vaccine, which we didn't have last year, has proven again and again that it can save lives and prevent people from getting into the hospital. we've got to get more people to take it. and that's a real challenge. i've been encouraged to see vaccination rates go up, especially in hard-hit states, but it can't happen fast enough. because the delta variant is the most contagious we have seen to date, and we're in a race. it's the vaccines against the variant. >> so we're still waiting for the u.s. to formally okay a third shot for immunocompromised people. we were told it could happen within 48 hours yesterday. so it could happen at any point. dr. murphy, about two weeks ago, you said, and i quote you, at this point, i want to be clear,

people do not need to go out and get a booster shot. what changed? >> well, so i want to make the distinction. this is specifically when we talk about the immunocompromised population, we're talking about 3% of our population. we know that if you are an organ transplant recipient and you're on medications or you're getting treatment for cancer, that you may not have been able to mount a strong immune protective response when you got your first two shots of the vaccine. so that's why the fda is working closely with the vaccine manufacturers to make sure that we can get a third dose to immunocompromised individuals. we're hoping to move that as quickly as possible, because we want to protect these individuals from covid to the greatest extent we can. >> so the day after you said that people don't need a booster shot, and i understand you were

talking about people overall, but on that day after, israel approved a third shot for anyone over 60. and even today, israel's announced anyone over 50 can get a third shot now too. they have put out their data as to why. so why is that not happening here? do you think the israeli data is wrong or is the united states going to follow israel in a little bit of time? >> well, i'm glad you asked that question, erin. let's talk about the booster to the broader population. and there, i want to be clear about, we are saying that today we are not recommending that people go out and get boosters. but let me tell you how we're making that decision. we're looking at a number of data sources, including the israeli data, the data from the uk, data from canada and other countries. we're looking at data from the pharmaceutical companies, which have been following individuals involved in the trial last year and data from within the united states, from private health care systems, from the u.s. government. and what we're looking for is

the following. we're trying to understand if there's a decrease in protection that's manmanifesting, and breakthrough infections in hospitals. when we see the threshold met, that's when we'll recommend boosters for additional people. but that's an if question, a when question, and the data will drive our decision on that. >> okay. so the bottom line is, you're just -- you're saying basically a broader set of data than israel or you have a different threshold? >> we're looking at a very broad set of data. and i should tell you that some of the data you look at, it's reassuring. others may show different numbers. we've got to put it all together around look at the broader trend, understand if a threshold has been met, and then decide when a booster may be indicated, if it's indicated. but i want people to know that we're looking at that closely. we talk about it every day. if and when boosters are needed,

we will have the supply, because we've been planning for this. >> so a new study shows pfizer's efficacy drops to 42% across the united states at the end of july. interestingly, moderna's was very different. it was nearly double that at 76%. but pfizer at 42%. do you -- do you think that's valid or are you seeing things that contradict that? >> yeah, it's a good question, erin. i know the study you're talking about. i think in this environment, we have to be cautious about interpreting a single study as being indicative of what may be happening across the board. there are data sets that we have seen which show that the efficacy and breakthrough rate is quite low. others like the mayo clinic, which may be a bit different. but we have to look at the totality of the evidence and decide when to act. here's a key thing, you saw this in the mayo study. hospitalizations and deaths, those are still very, very low in people who are vaccinated.

so that's the key. if you want to, again, be protected from death and hospitalization and severe disease, getting vaccinated, even with the delta variant, is still the right pathway. >> so a group of people that cannot be protected by the vaccine are kids under 12. the american academy of pediatrics is saying the fda needs to authorize the vaccines for kids in that age group. based on the trial data available, they say it is time. the fda is asking for more data. here's what the president of the american academy of pediatrics just told my colleague, wolf, yesterday. >> it's really important to make sure that we are approaching authorization of the covid vaccine for the youngest children with the same urgency we did in adults, because it really is a very urgent situation. >> so should the fda move quickly on this and try to get these young kids in the vaccine

pipeline in the next couple of weeks here? >> well, erin, let me tell you this. i know we're both parents and think about how to protect our kids all the time. my kids are under 12. they're not eligible yet for a vaccine. and i want a vaccine available for them as soon as possible. but what i can tell you is this, in my conversations with the fda, they are very clear that their highest priority are covid vaccines for the broader population, including kids. but in order to approve a vaccine or authorize one for kids under 12, number one, the trials have to be completed. the data has to be submitted by the company and it has to be evaluated by the fda. what the fda is trying to balance is speed and thoroughness. as all of us parents know, we want our kids protected, but we want to be sure that the vaccines have been thoroughly evaluated for safety and efficacy. so they'll move as quickly as they can in partnership with the companies. but the companies still have their trials ongoing. they have to submit that data ultimately to the fda first.

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wave of resignations if the mandate for employees is enforced. so "outfront" now, the president of the deputy sheriff's association for san francisco. ken, i appreciate your time. so this goes to the heart of it. it's your police department, it's others, as well. i know you've been hearing about this directly from your members, according to a facebook post, 160 deputies, which is about 23% of the force there of the deputies, are not vaccinated. what are you doing to talk them out of potentially resigning, one? and two, what are you doing to encourage them to get the vaccine? >> hi, erin. thank you for allowing us to be on the show. umm, we're definitely working on it. the city is putting out a very robust educational program for covid-19 vaccines, as well as the sheriff's department. and recently they started a hotline, you know, for our deputies, police, fire, nurses,

other employees to call in and answer questions. you know, help them with their concerns with the vaccines. and i do want to let you know some good news, our vaccine rate is going up. the majority of -- >> that's good. >> -- of our deputies are vaccinated. and it's increasing. we encourage that verbally and also with our communication me methods, with our emails and news later, so forth. >> so, umm, i know that there is a possibility of testing, and i know there's some deputies who say i'm not going to get vaccinated, but i'll get tested regularly. we all know that's not fullproof, you know, you can get -- depending on how often you're testing, you don't always know when someone has it. and doing it every single day and a pcr can be very expensive. what are you doing about that, about having them understand that testing actually is --

testing is not the first thing, right? the first thing is a vaccine that they should be looking at. >> well, you know, the deputy sheriffs actually practice a very high standard of covid-19 safety measures, along with wearing the mask. i understand your position, you know, what you're stating on the testing, as well. but we do know that testing does work. there are some failure rates with it, but the majority of it, it is a working system. they do wear masks. we have hand sanitizers throughout our facilities. we provide them gloves. they do stay at a distance. so they're practicing all the safety measures, as well. and just to let you know, we are advocating -- go ahead. we are -- >> you made it clear, you're advocating for the vaccine. but who pays for the testing, though? >> umm, well, it could be a variety of sources.

right now the city is. but even outside of that, there are a lot of locations that do, you know, provide testing, private companies. so there's a lot of resources out there. as a matter of fact, i'm not sure if you're aware of this or if you heard of a company called tiger tech where they have an electronic device that is fda approved, and does do the covid testing, as well. >> yeah, absolutely. so i wanted to -- there's -- on the website, there's a photo with the caption, sheriff deputies are getting vaccinated to protect themselves, their loved ones, and the people they protect and serve. and a captain who survived covid also posted this message. >> i feel much better after getting the vaccination. i'm very happy i got vaccinated. there are no excuses. please get vaccinated and protect yourself and others around you. >> how effective is that? >> i think it's very effective.

you know, that captain is a friend of mine. we communicate often. i think that's a very effective message. but, you know, we do have a group of members that are concerned about the vaccines, too. they're concerned about the side effects. they would like to wait for fda approval, approve the vaccines. as a matter of fact, some of them would like to wait for some of the newest vaccines coming out that are more effective. so i think our vaccination rate is going to increase. i just hope we have the opportunity to take advantage of the newer vaccines, the fda approved vaccines, and we want to avoid termination. right now, with the mandates, the city is -- the only other option is vaccinate or terminate. it's a very strong and extreme position. and we're low staffed. the police is low staffed. the nurses are low staffed. other city departments are low

staffed. and if they're going to be terminating employees, we're going to get into an emergency staffing crisis in san francisco. and that's really going to affect public safety. not only -- human life is priceless -- in san francisco this year, there's approximately about 130 deaths. but i would like you to also compare that to the drug overdose deaths. there are about 50 a month. we're approaching 700 drug overdose deaths this year. so in comparison, covid-19 in san francisco is an emergency. the city is mandating some very extreme mandates. but on a parallel level of an emergency are the drug overdose deaths. and i don't see that attention there where it's really needed, as well.

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new tonight, for the first time on record, the white population in the united states has declined. just released data from the 2020 census shows the white population in america is down 8.6% from 2010. think about this context. it's the first time it declines and declines by 8.6%. that's stunning, it's huge. now the white population is 57.8% of the population. the hispanic population grew by 23%. responsible for more than half of the entire country's population growth. more than half coming from hispanics. now, the population overall

increased by more than 62 million across the country. and in california, the hispanic population became the largest ethnic group in the state for the first time, now making up 39% of the state's population. it's the biggest single group. so this is as the data shows much of america's population growth was in the south and west. that, of course, is not a surprise. this data is crucial, because it will be used to redraw the district lines for congressional districts before next year's midterm election, and it determines the mitt call future of the country. "outfront," dave wasserman, a u.s. house editor of the political report. maria cardona, former dnc communications director and van jones, former special adviser to barack obama. so dave, let me start with you. you've gone through the numbers that just came out. what was the big takeaway for you? >> this is a country that continues to get more urban and

more diverse. nonhispanic whites, that's two points lower than the precensus estimate suggested and six points lower than the 2010 census. and the latino undercount that a lot of groups feared heading into this census, it didn't materialize in the data that we saw today. in fact, hispanics were 18.7% of the u.s. population, which is even a 10th of a point higher than the benchmark estimates. for democrats, for the counts from big cities like chicago and new york, came in a bit higher than the estimates suggested. and those are states where democrats are really hoping to draw the lines in their favor. now, we're moving into a critical phase here, that's redirecting. that's where republicans hold a net advantage when it comes to redrawing the political boundaries for the next decade.

that could gain between zero and ten seats thanks to their advantage in florida, north carolina, georgia, and texas. and keep in mind, they only need five seats to take back house control in 2022. >> all right. so we talk about things that stand out here. of course, obviously the drop in the white population stands out hugely. but so does the growth in the hispanic population, and where the growth happened. a lot of it in the south. texas gaining 4 million residents in the last decade. nearly half of those residents were hispanic. but i just want to challenge the assumption here this is all going to be good for democrats, who have failed to turn texas blue. we heard about that came pan after campaign, it's going to happen. it has not happened. so all this hispanic growth we are seeing, is it good for democrats or could it be a gift for the gop? >> i think it's good for the country, because i think diversity is good for the

country. the more diverse this country is, the better it is for our politics and policpolicies. that doesn't mean there isn't going to be a fight, because there will be a fight. to your question, which party will this be better for? that depends on the party. it should not be an assumption this is going to be good for democrats. demographics is not destiny. but what it does is it will embolden democrats to fight very hard, especially hike you said in texas, even though we have not been able to turn texas blue, we have been able to come very close. and these new numbers, these growth numbers will really give us a chance to continue to fight. but we have to have a message that attracts the latino population, the multiracial population. erin, this country now, the under 18 population, is majority non-white. that is jaw dropping numbers to add to the ones you focused on at the very beginning. >> right. so van, the broader context

here, of course, is that there are some who are deeply concerned and upset about this. let me give an example here of tucker carlson, who has used rhetoric like this on fox news. >> the democratic party is trying to replace the current electorate, the voters now casting ballots with new people, more obedient voters from a third world. demographic change is the key to the democratic party's political ambitions. in order to win and maintain power, democrats plan to change the population of the country. this is the administration bringing felons, violent criminals into our country on purpose. why would you do something like that? what they're doing is bringing in people they think will vote for them. >> okay. so van, just to make the point obviously, nobody is -- felons are not accounting for the growth here of hispanic population or any others.

okay. for parts of the country, though, this argument holds water, right? and the reason we know that is because he keeps doing it again and again and again, right? it's resonating with some people. how come? >> uh-huh. well, look, change is hard. and when things change, people -- some people can jump on that and demagogue. the reality is, nobody is coming to the united states to vote for democrats or republicans. they're coming to the united states to get jobs and to vote at all in some cases. and it's the republican party that's driving the latino community into the democratic party's arms. we're happy to take them. but you've got people coming from countries where they had bad experiences with socialism, people coming here with a strong ethic, big faith background. you have to work hard as republican party to repel this many voters who some of them naturally should be voting for you. so it's not that the democrats

are bringing people here to vote, it's people are coming here to work and republicans have been so nasty, and hostile, they're driving away voters that they could have. this demographic change could help either party or neither party, but it's helping democrats because of republicans. >> go ahead. >> if i could just add, to your point, i think we should all go into these next several years with eyes wide open. tucker carlson is making an argument that a lot of people are eating up and will eat up. president trump's rise and his popularity within the republican party and in this country is still based on white resentment of the kind of demographic change that today is underscored more than at any other time in our country. and so what i hope, though i haven't seen, is that republicans will look at this diversity as a positive for the country, and look at the politics and the policies that we're going to need to continue to be number one in the world,

because if we have the growth of under 18 or the population under 18 right now, that is majority non-white, that means that the future of this country, the future leaders of this country, what this country will be like, has to -- has to reflect the policies that help those populations, which then will help america as a whole. >> so let me ask you, to the point maria is making, under 18, whites are in the minority. so the fact that whites are still in the absolute majority is older people still trend white. so one of the fastest growing metro areas in the united states, definitely not new york, but it's retirement communities. tell me what stands out to you. >> yeah. so look, georgia is down to 50.1% non-hispanic white. north carolina is down to the high 50s.

so you see this head of steam of demographic change that isn't necessarily dooming republicans. we saw the irony in 2020 of president trump's claims about election fraud in democratic cities, was that he made the biggest strides with a lot of non-white voters in a lot of those urban counties. now, the news from the census is it's those urban areas which are heavily democratic that are gained population. most rural counties in the country that are predominantly white, lost population. redirecting still favors republicans. >> and van, a final word to you. four years since the rally in charlottesville. and we get the latest census data. and we see the diversity of this country, but yet still the deep split. >> yeah. i still don't think the country has recovered from that day,

seeing nazis march in america. you know, president trump's response, disappointed a lot of people, shocked a lot of people. some say it was taken out of context, but he was not able to find his footing and reassure people and we haven't recovered. and the reality is, america is the greatest country in the world because we get to cheat and steal talent from everywhere. we got the hardest working people from around the world, come to be on our team. and that is the secret to our success. we are cutting our own noses off to leave all this talent to compete against us outside. we should welcome everybody here. that's what reagan talked about, what george h.w. bush talked about. republicans should be talking about it. and if they don't, democrats will. >> thank you all. i appreciate your time. next, thousands of american troops are on their way back to afghanistan to help get americans evacuated, as the taliban is taking over more parting of the country at lightning speed. and the republican congressman who aided and abetted president

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breaking news. joe biden ordering 3,000 u.s. troops to arrive in afghanistan's kabul airport if the next 24 to 48 hours to assist with departures of u.s. diplomats with any possible evacuation. skrn learns the u.s. may relocate its embassy to that airport, coming amid a deteriorating security situation as the taliban continues seizing territory, claiming control of three more capitals in the last 24 hours. john kirby joins us now. joe biden sending 3,000 troops back to afghanistan to assist with evacuations and getting americans out of the country. it does seem to be quite a deterioration on the ground to have this suddenly needed just to get diplomats out of the country. how bad is the security situation as you know it? >> it's deeply concerning, erin.

three more provincial capitals have fallen to the taliban and they are putting pressure on kabul. the president decided this was the right thing and the right time to do it. a prudent decision to scope down, to reduce our civilian foot print in kabul, while we still have an environment where we can do that safely. so that's what the u.s. military is going to be doing. we'll be helping our state department colleagues get that foot print down to a smaller size. but we will not be eliminating our diplomatic presence in afghanistan. >> so you talk about the provincial capitals. three more falling to the taliban in the past 24 hours, which brings the total to 12. you know, obviously i guess i'm being definitional here. but the situation in kabul is deteriorating more quickly than anyone anticipated. i mean, how close are we to kabul falling to the taliban?

>> i don't want to get into an intelligence assessment and speculate about the future, and i would say that it's the -- it's the country side, and outside kabul, where we're -- where we have seen taliban activity and taliban advances. we are not seeing that same sort of activity in kabul proper. to reduce this footprint in a safe and order way way. we have 3,000 troops on the way to help secure the environment to make sure that this can be done safely and efficiently and nobody gets hurt. again, as we said earlier, our troops, just like always, have the right of self-defense. if they're fired upon, they can defend themselves. >> so joe biden was not in the afghanistan meetings today. his message is that afghanistan needs to be responsible for its own security. we can see how that's going. how concerned are you that the

message biden is sending emboldens the taliban and terrorist groups? the taliban taking over this country like lightning after the u.s. leaves, and the terrorist groups are looking for safe haven once again in a taliban controlled afghanistan. >> i think the commander in chief has been exceedingly clear, erin, that we are not going to allow afghanistan to become a safe haven for terrorist attacks on our homeland again. and we'll maintain and we have maintained a robust over the horizon counterterrorism capability in the region. yes, it's more difficult than when you have troops on the ground but not impossible. you can see that which we've been trying to support our afghan forces in the field through air strikes, which are coming from outside the region. so the president's been very clear. we're not going to be anything less than vigilant when it comes to the potential for a reemergence of a terrorism threat in afghanistan. the other thing, erin, is that the terrorism threat, particularly the serious ones,

have grown outside of afghanistan. we're seeing in other places like north africa. >> right, and we have traveled and covered those stories. but i want to be clear, you're saying that you think you can prevent afghanistan from being a harbor for terrorists, even if it is fully controlled by the taliban? >> we are going to make sure that we maintain the capabilities to prevent terrorist threats from emanating out of afghanistan ever again. there isn't a scrap of earth that the united states military can't touch if we need to, and we're going to do that. it's another reason why, erin, we're pushing so hard to try to get to a negotiated political settlement. i know it's clear that the taliban is no longer interested in that, we still believe that an afghan led political settlement is the right answer, not only for the afghan people, but for the opportunity to prevent threats from coming from that country. >> so defense secretary austin will seek a mandate requiring

service members get a covid vaccine by mid september. what about military members who refuse to get vaccinated in terms of getting people to do it, would they be dishonorably discharged from service? >> there's been a lot of talk about this, erin. yes, once you mandate a vaccine, it becomes a lawful order. but we know that commanders are going to administer a new vaccination program when it comes mandatory, with skill and professionalism, and most of all, compassion. that they have lots of tools available to them short of disciplinary action, short of using the military justice system to get soldiers, sailors, airman and marines to make the right decision for them and their units and their local communities. >> all right. john, thank you very much. i appreciate your time. >> you bet, erin. and "outfront" next, a

little known congressman played a key role in trump's election lie. who is scott perry? and a record number of mooirg m detained at the u.s.-mexico border. numbers we have not seen in more than two decades.

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even introducing trump to the man who would try and fail to topple the leadership at the justice department in an attempt to overturn the 2020 election. so who exactly is republican congressman scott perry? sarah murray is "outfront." >> reporter: a little known pennsylvania congressman who publicly parroted claims of election fraud. >> we want the ballots and votes that are counted to be league. >> reporter: was privately helping donald trump's efforts to overturn the election. scott perry has acknowledged he introduced trump to jeffrey clark, an environmental law chief at the justice department. he worked with the white house to push baseless fraud claims and attempted a leadership coup to oust jeffrey rosen and take the job himself. according to documents and testimony from former justice department officials. perry had a friendly relationship with trump. >> a wonderful man who represents this area, scott perry. >> reporter: it's unclear how he knew clark, but the three men were united in their embrace of

election conspiracies. >> i don't understand if there's criminal activity present fraud, that's criminal activity. why we don't look at that. >> reporter: in a bachtch of e-mails, perry passes along documents that allege there were more votes counted than voters in pennsylvania. that same day, trump mentions perry's name in a call. later in the call, trump instructs justice officials to just say the election was corrupt and just leave the rest to me and the republican congressman. a member of the house freedom caucus objected to the certification of pennsylvania's election result in the hours following the insurrection. >> i object to the electoral votes of my beloved commonwealth of pennsylvania. >> reporter: and voting against awarding the congressional gold medal to officers who defended the capitol. back in his district, many of his allies are unfazed.

>> one man introduces another man to a third man. where is that illegal or improper or inappropriate? >> at home, perry's known for his humble roots, getting a start at a local farm at age 13. rising to the rank of brigadier general in the pennsylvania national army guard and winning five terms in congress. here, perry's election skepticism and unwaivevering ma help him win elections. >> there's a lot of suspicion that things in the election didn't go right because there was shenanigans going on. >> not all agree. >> we have to appeal to a large number of swing voters if we want to win in pennsylvania and if we want to win any nationwide elections. so doubling down on the devisiveness is a potential death sentence for the republican party. >> reporter: we tried to ask

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big news. not good news tonight from america's southern border. unprecedented numbers of migrants illegally crossing into the united states last month. in fact, a rate we have not seen in two decades. customs and border protection encountered 212,672 people in july. right, encountered and detained. that's up from nearly 189,000 in june. the head of the dhs says those numbers include repeat crossers. some expelled under trump era policies. now coming back.

andre calls it a serious challenge. they usually decline in the hot su summer months, but that's not what we've seen. so what is the united states doing about it? that's a crucial question. clearly more needs to be done. customs says they are in part resuming fast track deportation procedures for migrant families and setting up flights to send people to other border areas for processing. thanks for watching. anderson starts now. good evening. with tomorrow shaping up to be a big day in the fight against covid, especially the prospect of a decision on additional vaccine doses for those who might need them, i'm joined shortly by dr. fauci. we begin with a rapidly deteriorating situation in afghanistan. president biden's decision to end 20 year of military presence there. today as the third largest city fell to the taliban, the pentagon on the president's instructions ordered troops to