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misinformation on the effectiveness of wearing masks, especially for pregnanting school children from the effects of covid-19. leaving some americans to act out in angry rages, threatening other parents. in tennessee a concerned father spoke at a school board meeting in favor of masks for elementary school children in his district. as he left the meeting he was verbally assaulted and had to be escorted to his car by police. >> there is a place in hell and everybody is taking notes, everybody. >> we know who you are. in more masks. >> keep it calm. we're on these guys' side. >> no. you're not on our side. >> the police are on our side.

calm down. calm down. >> we know who you are. we know who you are. we know who you are. you will never be allowed -- >> i know who you are. >> we know who you are. >> that man who was subjected to that abuse is michael miller. i'm going to speak with him in just a few moments. here's what he told my colleague this afternoon. >> i had to get out of there. all i wanted to do was go home to my family and my kids. i'm a parent. i'm not a doctor. i work as a data analyst in the health care profession. i'm just a apparently who wanted to have his say why masks are important for children, all children under the age of 12.

board meetings are for parents to have peaceful discourse with one another. board members should not be sitting on a board being threatened for their lives. parents shouldn't feel threatened walking to a parking lot. that is not the america i know. >> but it is the america that we are becoming. too many parents ignoring the science about the importance of wearing masks. there was another meeting in another state. indiana. a doctor there spoke with conviction about covid and masks and vaccines. he sounded like he knew what he was talking about. the problem is, the things he said, they weren't accurate. the bigger problem is, they've gone viral. more on that in a minute. i want to go back to that meeting in tennessee. a pediatrician who also spoke at the meeting in favor of masks for school children was heckled when he told the truth. last night, he told me with the spread of bad information. >> i'm not surprised at it

because i've seen disinformation all the way about vaccines to wearing helmets, to car seats. i've not seen the amount of what seems to be willful disregard for people who really ang whole lot during this last year. i have not seen children come in with an eye infection because of a face mask. and the people who were there seemed to be indicating that the masks were dirty and they're going to make you sick. i can tell you, when the children wear masks regularly, we do not see you because you're sick. >> the fight against covid isn't just against the virus. it also the struggle between information and misinformation. so joining me now, michael miller. the parent who we just saw being harassed after speaking in favor masks at a school board meeting in tennessee. i'm so glad you're here. thank you very much.

>> thank you. >> i know that you were terrified by this episode. we reached out to you and i think it is fair to say you were too shaken at the moment to want to speak out. then you woke up this morning and this video had gone viral. have you been able to process this whole thing? >> two and a half days ago, i was just a normal quiet guy with a quiet existence. i've come to terms with the fact that for whatever reason, i was put in a position that was unfortunate, unnecessary and dangerous. but i'm also in a position that i felt i had to come forward to both set the record straight and to use the position i am put in for good. >> look, there is a lot of anger in your community, clearly. talk about what it was like when you left that meeting. you asked to be escorted. >> yes. i asked to be escorted. i left the meeting at 8:45.

a seventh double doors to exit to the side of the building there. i asked the officer before i went through the first set. i said i would like a police escort because i had heard the cha chanting. we heard it for hours. emthere are officers immediately outside the door. i said thank you. they took me down the ramp and led me to my car. unfortunately, with where the protesters were, they were packed right by that door. and i truthfully feared for my life. the cops were trying to keep people back and the people running between cars, heckling me, calling me awful names like a child abuser, told me i'm going to hell and things you would never, ever say to somebody. and then, of course, the two or three guys who decided that they should go after my window and threaten my very existence and my family. all i wanted to do was get out of there.

>> you have to be concerned about your safety and your children's safety, are you not? >> absolutely. terrified. and every time i see this video, i'm terrified. >> where does all this, where does this rage come from? >> where does it come from? it comes from a, some people can't be reasoned. with i hate saying that. some of it is grand standing. some of it is group mob mentality and you just get fired up. there are people, you get a thousand people all channelling for hours. it was 95 degrees. 90 to 95 degrees the other night when i walked out at 8:45. it was hot. people have been outside all day. i had no idea what was going through their minds. the crowd was nowhere near that big. it was big. it was nowhere near that big. so people clearly showed up during the meeting and then the crowd that left halfway through

the meeting, and the outburst shown earlier. that crowd remained and further impassioned those people. just a general lack of respectful i don't know how else to describe it. >> what do you mean by a general lack of respect? but also, i had the pediatrician on last night who said, it was willful, i think he said disregard. we didn't play it. last night i said, you can say willful ignorance because it is what it is. why are not they listening to the science? it seems to me, they are the ones who are influencing their kids about these masks because if they told their kids, it was good, would it help them. they could have mask competitions. who has the cutest mask or the funniest mask or whatever, that they could actually help the kids and save some kids from

possibly becoming infected. and getting us back to normal. >> i agree. the blame has to be put on the parents 110%. they hide behind this label of liberty. liberty does not give you the right to violate the safety of someone else, to harass somebody, to violently attack people, be it in a parking lot or sitting on a school board. it does not give you the right to affect other children in the school and not have any regard for anybody nelson your community. that's a breakdown of the very fabric of our society. we have to look out for one another. we have to care for one another. wearing a mask, we care for one another. these are children under the age of 12 who cannot be vaccinated. personally, i'm floored by any parent would send their child without the mask. we're beyond the point of it being a matter of choice. there is a dire health issue in this community. we all want to keep our children in schools as long as we can. the only way that will happen is

if they're masked. last year the kids were masked. there are other mitigation strategies in place. i believe summit golden quoted a better than 90% rate of opening last year which was stellar, given the situation last year. commendable. >> yeah. it's not just what you experienced outside the meeting. this is what a fellow, what fellow parents were saying inside the meeting. here it is. >> i would never put them in a mask because their brain needs oxygen to grow which the neurologist can confirm. anyway, the real part of the clown show is that you all think that you actually have the authority to mandate this. >> i swore an oath to protect this country against all enemies, foreign and domestic. if you harm my children, we will come after you politically and financially. we will come for you and the holy spirit is coming with us. >> it's really -- listen. as adults.

you and i know better. the kids' brains need oxygen. >> doctors wear masks every day around us. >> people wear masks every day. when i see those kids not wearing masks for halloween, then i'll know they're serious about it. but every one of those kids will walk around all day on halloween and they'll put on their masks and to the store and mom, buy this mask, and they'll gladly wear a mask all day. but now this one day, it deprives them of oxygen. do most people in your area feel that way? or is it just the loudest voices? are they grandstanding? help me. >> yeah. i'll help you. so i'll quote one statistic from the school board that was mentioned. all the school board mentioned this. they've received hundreds if not thousands of emails the last several weeks about this issue. better than 70% of them were in favor of a mask mandate.

in the room, the parents were saying, take a vote. we're the majority. we're the majority. screaming. yeah. they were the majority. in room because most of the parents are too scared or unable to go a meeting like that where quite frankly, it was probably a super spreader event. you had hundreds of people in there screaming without masks on who don't believe in science. some of them are surely infected. just by statistics here in tennessee, that would have to be the case. so parents, if you are living in a home with an immunocompromised individual or children, you won't take a risk going into that environment. especially knowing it will be tense. that is be williamson county. there are people on both sides of the political divide i've heard from today. this is not republican or democrat. this is, do you believe in the science or do you not? all of us love our children. no question. it is just what science do you want to believe?

there is only one truth in science. that's the beautiful thing about science. >> michael, you be safe out there, you and your family. wish you the best of luck and we wish you safety and health. thank you. also tonight in misinformation nation, indiana's doctors convincing sounding but false and misleading claims about covid. they're going viral. the claims you're about to hear have been all over social media. even shared by sitting members of congress like jim jordan. but they're riddled with problems and bad information. here's dr. dan stotts speaking before the mount vernon board. >> so thing you should know about coronavirus and all other respiratory viruses, they are small enough to go through every mask. knowing half the people who came down with symptomatic disease had no contact with an unknown status individual. where did they get the disease?

the answer was from the vaccinated individuals. you can't prevent with it a vaccine because they don't do the very thing you're wanting them to do. you will be chasing this the remainder of your life until you recognize the center for disease control and the indiana board of health are giving you very bad scientific guidance. >> okay. so joining me now is erica herron, an education report he for the indianapolis star, and dr. gabriel bosslet. an associate professor at indiana university of medicine. i'm so glad both of you are here as well. this is a very important topic. doctor, the man is well spoken. he seems professional. but what he is saying dangerous. he is claiming vaccines are causing people to get sick. it is absurd. please give us the facts, sir. >> i mean, most of what he said was not factual. you're right. he sounded great and he had a really crisp shirt and nice suspenders and he looked like

doctor. he is a doctor. and he used medical words and he really sounded official. but the fact was, most of what he said was just patently false. >> you have refuted his claims point by point on facebook but point out, there are small nuggets of truth throughout his phony claims. so tell me with that and why it is more pervasive to you. >> yeah. he started the whole thing out by saying, the virus is so small that it will pass through any, the fibers of a mask. viruss are tiny. they're very small. so if you're just going by the claim that the virus is tiny, that's a true statement. the fact of the matter is the way the virus travels, they are tracked by masks. i think you can argue which masks are best, where they work best. i think there are reasonable arguments to be made about masks

and how to use them. whether or not they work isn't really in the realm of reasonability to argue. >> erica, i want to bring you in. you have been reporting on dr. stock. what can you tell us about him? and why so many people are amplifying him and what he says. >> well, i think dr. stock is resonating with a lot of people because he is telling them what they want to hear. we have a lot of people who are tired of the mask mandates and have a lot of covid fatigue. they want their schools to reopen like normal. and he is telling them that's possible and we don't need these things and that's what they want to hear and he's a doctor so they're going to take his opinion. >> doctor, another question. stock has been going to other local school board meetings to speak out against covid

protocols. do you believe people like him and the misinformation they're spreading is why we are seeing this surge in covid cases and hospitalizations? not just your state but across the country. >> i think it is a factor for sure. this thing is so complex. we've had such a hard time figuring out what will happen next with this virus. but the fact is, people spreading misinformation, and people who should know better, physicians spreading misinformation certainly aren't helping. the message we need now is people need to be vaccinated. any physician who isn't having that conversation with every information they come in contact with is holding up us getting through this. >> listen, i know that again, you've been reporting on this. we reached out to stock for comment and left a message on his voicemail but we did not hear back.

how are officials pushing back on his video? >> health officials are continuing to encourage everyone who is eligible to get vaccinated. the state health department and a lot of the local county health departments are encouraging schools to follow the cdc guidelines when it comes to masking and social distancing and just continuing to push out the message that everyone who can be vaccinated should be vaccinated. there are no mandates in place here as far as schools go, masking, that sort of thing. just a lot of encouragement for people to go ahead and get the shot. >> well, erica, a great job reporting. i hope you continue and we'll have you back as this progresses. and thank you very much, doctor. i really appreciate both of you appearing on the program. keep up the fight and the good work. joining me now, amanda carpenter. hi, amanda. >> hay, don. >> what on earth is going on. michael miller like so many people totally fed up with those who won't listen to science,

won't follow the rules and are pushing us back into this covid mess. i thought, hey, we're almost there. we can go around certain places without masks. we can be outside and here we are. why do we all need to sacrifice because of their willful ignorance? >> we don't have a choice right now. right? we've all been backed into this situation. we had the bit of freedom for a couple weeks in july. and now we're right back in it. it is just, it is very hard because this is the nightmare scenario. for those of us who do politics for a living, i think we're pretty good at compartmentalizing things, putting the politics here, coming back home. now you can't he is came it. it was my biggest fear watching this shape up that our schools would become protest zones.

and that's what's happening. it is very difficult. there is light coming at the end of the tunnel. people going forward, they're going to encounter covid. there is a choice, right? you can encounter covid with the vaccine or without. very soon, i hope. if parents and families can hang organization the kids will be eligible for that vaccine and you can choose to fight covid with a vaccine. and we're going to get through this one way or another. i wish it were the easy way, right? we had the chance to do at this time easy way. now we're going to grit our teeth and do it the hard way. so protect yourselves. protect your family. talk to the people who are reluctant, hesitant, and if they won't do it for themselves, just ask them. do you know a nurse? do you know a doctor? do you know a teacher? do you know that you are putting them through this for another year? i have such compassion for the

nurses who have been sacrificing for the last 18 months. the doctors who should never have to do this again. and god bless you, don, for going down there to that hospital and walking through. that's a scary thing. and thank you for talking to them. i feel like they've been left behind through all of this. >> i'm glad you said that. they were so grateful just to have someone there paying attention to them. and just, more than that, just appreciating them and telling the story. because we don't get to see the inside of the hospitals. and we don't usually get that close to the patients. usually it is through glass. for me, from a reporter on the show, just going and speaking to the people. the folks who were there working, some of them said they were there for nine days, amanda. and i was standing around the nurse's station in the icu. and they said that we've been here, some of us have been here nine hours. we go, we sleep in a hotel.

and we come back. and some of them can't be with their family because they are, they come in contact with covid patients every single day. it is the people who are not getting vaccinated who are saying, it is my freedom or i just don't want to do it or i want to wait. they are the ones taxing the system. >> absolutely. and they're putting the doctors, the nurses, all the support staff through that. then also, anyone else that might have an accident and might need to get into a hospital in a time of emergency. so it is extremely unfortunate. the only thing right now we can do is be clear-eyed about what happened, why it happened, how to protect yourself going forward. let's get through this and there will be a very clear contrast between the states, localities that did masks, that did vaccines, and those who didn't. and it is a tragedy. like it is really a tragedy. i wish it didn't have to come to

this. i wish we didn't have to think about political triage. at some point the compassion runs out. and you have to reserve it for the people who truly, truly deserve it. >> well, amanda, i can tell, i can sense your frustration. last night was one of the moments that resonated on the show when you were speaking to us as a parent. you're speaking as a apparently, not a political commentator and i can sense your frustration. be well, amanda, be safe. you and your kids and your entire family. i'll see you soon. more than 75,000 people in the hospital fighting coronavirus in the u.s. right now. and i've just been talking to amanda about this. the very hospital i was born in, inundated with patients. a surge so bad in louisiana, i needed to go home to see it for myself. >> it's not. it is very deadly and very contagious. our number are continuing to rise. we started off a few weeks ago with only four patients here and a few icu beds. now i have four units open that

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more than 90% of counties in the u.s. are at substantial or high levels of community transmission. louisiana, my home state, has the second highest rate of covid hospitalizations per capita. we saw it first hand today. joining me first hand was the former professor at harvard medical school and the author of my lifelong fight against disease and variants. doctor, thank you. so for joining. most of the people i saw today, their hospitalizations could have been avoided. i want you to listen to some of those patients.

>> why didn't you get vaccinated? >> just haven't had time. i just didn't do it. >> so you're not anti-vaccine. >> no, sir, no, sir. >> why didn't you get vaccinated? >> just apprehensive, you know? >> the reason i didn't get vaccinated, my choice was, i wanted to wait. let this first batch go through, you know. see how it worked. >> so these particular people i spoke to, they weren't anti-vaccine. they were a little apprehensive. they didn't feel the urgency for whatever reason. some worried the vaccine was rushed. i'm you are they're not alone and plenty of other people feel the same way. what do you say to those folks? >> i watched your program and it was one of the most moving programs i've seen on this topic of all the things i've seen. what you saw were just ordinary

people suffering, understanding that they made a mistake, and trying to communicate with you to do their best to help others. we have to look at this as we're in this for the long term of the i look at this virus every day as closely as i can. it seems to me that we may not be out of this in my lifetime. i think we will do much better than we are today. we have good vaccines. we'll get better vaccines. we have some drugs that work. we'll get better drugs that work. we need time. we need to support the people, our doctors, we need something else. that you touched on in this program. which was a culture of caring. caring for ourselves, caring for each other. and what you see with these people is they're calling out. help yourself, help your family, help others. we don't need to get so sick to do that. we should begin to change now and i think your program, more

than any politician or scientist or talking head, saying what you need to do, is the kind of thing that can help change this situation. move us toward a culture of care. >> i am looking at my notes and the computer here. because it is just coming in, breaking news. the fda has approved a booster dose of pfizer or moderna for some immunocompromised people. and is this our reporting, producers? yes, okay. this is cnn's reporting. i wanted to make sure i didn't have to attribute it to anyone. will this expand to a broader population? >> it has to. you have to think of this like the flu. it comes back every year. this one is coming back every winter and now every summer for two in a row. so we're beginning to understand its pattern. so yes. we'll need boosters and we'll need better vaccines and we'll

have to keep our vaccines current for the clikind of viru out there. it changes just like the flu. we know how to confront this because we do it with the flu. if you think of this as a more serious kind of flu that is going to require continual vigilance. you don't go once and get your flu shot. you go every year. and we'll have better drugs. we'll get better vaccines, even though these are great. we'll get better ones and we'll get better drugs. so if you're exposed, take a pill and not get sick. we will have those but it will take time. it will take a lot of hard work and in the meantime, we have to get better. >> and we rejigger the flu vaccine every year. thank you, drrgs i really appreciate it. >> and i appreciate your work. >> thank you very much. thank you very much, sir. i want to give our viewers

breaking news again. the fda is authorizing covid-19 vaccine dose, a third dose, a booster shot for the pfizer vaccine and the moderna vaccine for certain immunocompromised people. we'll update you on that. in the meantime, the pentagon announcing 3,000 troops deploying to afghanistan as the u.s. embassy in kabul draws down its staff. the country on the brink of collapse to the taliban. more next.

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the u.s. is sending 3,000 american troops to afghanistan to help in kabul. it is in response to the taliban's rapid gains across the country with the fear being that kabul itself could soon fall. the security coming weeks ahead of the campaign led by the u.s. i want to bring in analyst susan glasser. always a pleasure to see you but this is tough stuff that we have to talk about. good evening to you. so afghanistan's third largest city herat fell to the taliban today. more than there'd of the country's provincial capitals have already fallen and afghanistan's two, second, i should say, largest city, kandahar is on the brink. how did this situation in afghanistan unravel so rapidly and so dramatically?

what happened to the afghan military? >> you know, don, this was always the scenario that the u.s. military was worried about. in fact, it is one of the reasons in some ways that previous presidents were so reluctant to do this. this was a worst case possibility. the taliban when they first came to power in the 1990s, it was a very similar, almost lightning sweep across the country. almost the cratering of it. part of it was the narrative of inevitable victory for such a long time, there is been the expectation that once, and if the united states pulled out, this would happen. and i think the fact that there was no one coming to the rescue anymore, you know, may have factored into it. it is the speed with which it happened this week. i final myself looking at, there's nothing surprising about it. it is still a gut punch to watch this sort of grim inevitable march across the country. >> amen. so here's the thing though. he has support.

62% of americans support the president's decision to withdraw all u.s. troops. that's according to a quinnipiac poll in may. that has been the case for some time now. but it has left leaders with a difficult choice. stay or risk it falling apart. >> the problem where you hear the second-guessing now among people who have focused on this in the national security world, if it is framed as a choice between war, no war, right? the american people across the political spectrum, they've made that very clear. no war. they don't want to have any more endless entanglements. if you focus on a more limited counter terrorism mission, which is what leaders have said is the goal, there were about 3500 troops on the ground when biden made the decision to pull out. and there are some people looking at this situation today saying, you know, for 3,500 troops, rather than have the taliban now taking over the

country, in this terrible irony, they're sending in about 3,000 troops, don, today, to secure the evacuation of embassy officials made necessary by the previous decision to remove 3,000 troops. it is just a painful moment, i think. u.s., a humbling moment, really. >> well, susan glasser, always a pleasure and i always feel smarter after you have appeared on this program. thank you. see you soon. >> thank you. a 40-year-old california man allegedly confessing to murdering his 2-year-old son and 10-month-old daughter saying he was enlightened by qanon. stay with us.

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in mexico. mexican authorities describing difficult details. >> translator: under the bushes they found the lifeless bodies of two children. one female, one male. authority say 40-year-old surf instructor matthew taylor coleman from santa barbara, california, confessed to murdering his 2-year-old son and 10-month-old daughter in mexico, telling the fbi he was driven to the killings after being enlightened by qanon, and ill loom nationali conspiracy theories. police were called in after the children were reported missing by their mother. authorities tracking him to mexico. surveillance video released by authority show coleman checking into a hotel with his children august 7th. just before 3:00 a.m. on august 9th, he packs them up and leaves the hotel. returning hours later alone. he was stopped by border officials while returning to the united states. the u.s. border officials finding blood on the

registration paperwork but no children. the fbi soon learned from mexican authorities that the bodies of two children were found overnight. along with the murder weapon, bloody clothes, and a baby's blanket. according to the criminal complaint, coleman told authorities, he was receiving visions and signs revealing that his wife possessed serp ant dna and had passed it on to his children. he told the fbi he was saving the world from monsters. he was arrested and charged with the foreign murder of u.s. nationals. >> just a horrific tragic loss. >> his neighbors in santa barbara, stunned. >> just shocked. frankly. immensely tragic and having known the two kids and the family. it is just awful. >> josh, wow! what a tragic story. this isn't the first time we've seen a suspected qanon follower go violent.

>> authorities and experts remain concerned about this movement. there's a lot we don't know about the specific suspect. we've reached out to his attorney for comment. we have not yet heard back. of course, there's a concern mental health may be at play here. this case illustrating what is concerning for law enforcement officials. that is you could have adherence to these fringe movements like qanon that are predisposed to violence. the basis of this entire movement is this notion that somehow democrats and hollywood celebrities are preying on children. he said he was enlightened by qanon, standing charged for the murder of his own two children. >> just awful. thank you so much. we'll be right back. ou're l.

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