tv Don Lemon Tonight CNN August 13, 2021 7:00pm-8:00pm PDT
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look how red it is across the south. i have covered a lot of angles of the covid story this week, every week, really but this week, some of them really hit home, my home. your home, as well. i've learned a few things. one, our future in being able to get back to normal and active healthy normal might depend more on anything whether we can get straight to the people and take the politics out of this. straight to the people. there are some people who don't want to let us do that. and we're going to talk about them. but i also learned that this week there are way too many people unvaccinated for way too many reasons or no real reason at all. every single one i met. every single one i met pretty much, when they got sick and were lying in the hospital wondering if they will live and die, i'll let them tell you. >> why didn't you get
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vaccinated? >> just haven't had time. i guess, just didn't do it. >> so you're not anti vaccine? >> no, sir. >> do you regret it? >> yes, i do. >> tell me why. >> just it's something -- i don't know if the shot would have helped me, i might have kept me from getting worse. >> what do you say to folks? >> open your eyes. you know, open your eyes. take heed to this. this is nothing to play with. >> nobody is vaccinated at home? >> nobody is vaccinated at home. >> children. >> yes. >> ages? >> 20, 18, 14 and 1.5. >> and you wanted to wait. >> for myself. >> what about for them? >> i spoke to them about it and i honestly think that they were
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afraid. >> afraid of what? >> the time, how quickly the vaccine was presented. i think that was a big thing. for myself, i already had underlying health conditions. so i wanted to make sure it was safe for me and we talked about it a lot. mom got covid. time to get vaccinated as a family. >> i planed to get vaccinated. >> you weren't against vaccines? >> no, i've always taken vaccines. this seemed so different, you know, and just informational. i just didn't i guess get the information that i wanted or thought well, you know, it's so
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different i'm not sure it's going to be a good vaccine, so. >> yeah. >> so -- >> what do you say to folks now? >> i think everybody ought to try to get it, yeah. yeah. if it will help prevent you from getting really sick, you know, it's going to do its thing. >> so here is the third thing that i have learned. there is way too much unhinged irrational anger out there. way too much of it. we have got to get it together, people. why is everybody so angry? let's talk more about that. three teachers in broward county, florida have died from covid within 24 hours of each other. all were unvaccinated. ron desantis says no to mask mandates for kids in class m ra rooms. >> we believe empowering the parents. they want the government to force and use coercion.
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our policy based on the bill of rights, this is the parents' decision. >> when did personal freedom become more important than the greater good during a serious health crisis? when did that happen? governor greg abbott banning mask mandates including schools. some school districts are defying this ban for the sake of the children. >> if we don't do anything, it could go as many as 2,000 new cases every day by the end of the month. so i felt it was time to step in, even though i'm going to get in trouble and i need to step in and just have some courage and make a decision i think is in the best interest of the district. >> in the best interest of the children. let's remember, kids in texas are getting sick and their contracting covid. listen to this dire warning tonight from an official in dallas county. >> in dallas, we have zero icu beds left for children. that means if your child is in a car wreck, if your child has a
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heart, congenital heart defect, we don't have one. your child will wait for another child to die to get a bed. >> in america in 2021 in one of the nation's premiere cities? one sick child needs to die before another sick child gets an icu bed. think about that. this is america. one sick child needs to do before another can get an icu bed because people won't take a life saving vaccine or wear a mask. what are we doing? what are we doing? we're tearing ourselves apart as a nation. and it's not like it is helping anyone. except for those who thrive and profit off of stoking hate and division. you know who they are and so do they. the white house now ramping up the pressure on governors who
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are playing politics with covid. >> if you're not interested in following the public health guidelines to protect the lives of people in your state, to give parents some comfort as they're sending their kids to school, schools are opening in florida this week. i know in many parts of florida, then get out of the way and let public officials let local officials do their job to keep students safe. >> keeping the student the safe and that anger we talked about. that is really shocking me this week and you, as well because i've heard from you. it really disturbing. even with everything we have seen in this country lately, and tennessee this week, an uproar by parents as a williamson county school board voted for a temporary mask mandate for elementary school kids. watch closely.
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[ cheers ] >> no more masks! no more masks! no more masks! no more masks! no more masks! no more masks! >> same reaction as you. ugh, embarrassing. it is really -- those are adults. maybe the kids should be running stuff. a rest pipiratory therapist tha worked in that area for two decades and has school aged children herself spoke at the meeting pleading with the parents to support masking kids telling me she felt completely ignored. >> i felt hurt. i felt disrespected. i felt disregarded as a health
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care advocate for our community. it was a big blow. you know, i put 110% in into my community. >> and of course, what happened in the parking lot to one father who supports mask mandates. >> no more masks! no more masks! no more masks! >> child abusers! there is a place in hell and everybody is taking notes, buddy. we know who you are. we know who you are. no more masks! >> i wonder if they've seen this video and i'm sure they have. they should be embarrassed by it. it's embarrassing. grown you know what people.
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he is a grown you know what man and those grown people acting like not even children. the man verbally attacked is michael miller. i also met him this week the same day i met those patients in the hospital, in fact. he says that he feared for his life at the anger he witnessed and he's terrified for his family's safety but speaking out because that's not the america he knows. >> they hide behind this label of liberty. liberty does not give you the right to violate the safety of someone else, to harass someone, attack people. it does not give you the right to infect other children in the school and not have any regard for anybody else in your community. >> here is the sad part. are you listening? at least two kids in his child's sixth grade class have already tested positive for covid.
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>> these are children under the age of 12 that cannot be vaccinated. i'm floored by any parent that would send their child without a mask. >> i also met an indiana doctor who was responding to the viral misinformation claims from another doctor making it very clear that masks work in preventing the spread of covid. >> the way the virus traveled, they are trapped by masks. i think you can argue at this point what masks are best, where they work best, i think there are reasonable arguments to be made about masks and how to use them, but whether or not they work isn't really in the realm of reasonability to argue. >> there is an old saying about freedom. your right to swing your fist to offset the tip of my nose. nobody is trying to take anything away from anybody, especially not freedom or anybody's rights but getting vaccinated and wearing masks indoors, there are ways to stop the deadly spread of covid.
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if people won't listen to the scientists like dr. fauci, maybe they'll listen to the terminator who i'm now calling the mask-nator and does he have a message for those claiming it's about their individual freedom. arnold? >> the only way we prevent it, we get vaccinated, wear masks, to do social distancing, washing your hands all the time and not just think about my freedom is being kind of destroyed here. no, screw your freedom. because with freedom comes applications and responsibilities. you cannot just say i have the right to do this, when you infect other people, that is when it gets serious. >> louisiana governor john bell edwards telling me the same thing trying to talk sense into people. >> what every individual does or doesn't do doesn't just have an effect on them, it has an effect on everybody.
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which is the big i think disconnect between so many people in our country right now is that they want to prioritize their individual right to do and not do something but you cannot manage a public health emergency in that regard. >> so here is the reality. these are the facts. nearly every covid patient hospitalized, you listening? nearly every covid patient hospitalized right now around the country is unvaccinated. that is the case in my home state. it's the case in yours, too. now i'm really not sure how many of you viewers out there listening to me are unvaccinated. before this week i would have thought most of you probably were but now i'm not so sure. so if you still aren't, you don't want to listen to me, listen to jim. him and his brother. remember? listen to maxine. having to tell her four kids she may not make it.
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and to brenda, to get vaccinated. and if you are, i am glad. stay safe, stay well and let's take care of each other. so i just finished talking about all the people i met this week on this covid story. let me introduce you tonight to two more. the superintendent of a school district where orange angry pap parent attacked a teacher over a mask and a district where three teachers died of covid complications within 24 hours and school has not even started yet. >> people i personally know, family members know that their families have gotten covid and now the worst caskcase scenario they passed away. this is not fear mongering. this is real. we're living it. ♪ [band plays] ♪ a place where everyone lives life well-protected. ♪
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doing okay? >> yeah, we're good. >> okay. great. >> long couple days. >> i'm glad i tested that because we've got a delay and i didn't know. so let's be aware of that. i'm so glad you're here, super inten dent. this happened at an elementary school on the first day of school. that has to be unsettling to you. what happened and how is the teacher doing? >> the teacher is doing great. he came back to work the very next day after being released from the hospital. essentially long story short, the parent came on campus to pick up his daughter from school. fortunately, there were no students at the time. he and the principal had a verbal altercation. she walked away, the parent walked away with the student. 40 minutes later the parent returned back to campus and went to the office area. the teacher witnessed the verbal
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alter case earlier in the afternoon and followed him into the office knowing the principal was alone. at that time a conversation ensued. it escalated very quickly. he physically began to approach the teacher and that's -- i'm sorry, the principal and the teacher stepped in and within a matter of seconds, the fight was on and it was very physical. >> in your letter to parents, you wrote people need to take a breath, pause, listen, walk away if necessary. i think you're exactly right. why do you think emotions are running so high over masks? a little piece of cloth. what is going on? >> yeah, it's really about people feeling as if their rights are being taken away. you know, we live in a county where we're very divided and very polarized and the government coming in and telling people what they can and can't
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do to their children creates this passion like no other. and unfortunately, in our community masks are not required in the community other than school. it's confusing for parents, i think. i think parents are the ones that have more of an issue with the mask than the students. they will do anything they need to do. the first day of school, all morning long and enrollment is up considerably to prepandemic numbers and there wasn't one issue. there wasn't one student refusing to wear a mask or, you know, not wearing a mask properly. they didn't have to physically distance any longer and they were just really happy to be there. so i think it boils down to politics. >> unfortunately. there is so much disinformation and anger. how concerned are you about more
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confrontation, superintendent? >> extremely concerned. i've had staff texting me throughout the day with threats, violence, threats both on the phone and social media. i've received very interesting emails today unfortunately people threaten me that, you know, masks are ridiculous and won't go -- something not appropriate for tv. it's very unfortunate. so staff including myself are looking over my shoulder right now and it's a very unsettling feeling. i don't anticipate this being the end of it, unfortunately. >> superintendent, you be safe and thanks for joining us. thanks for the work you do. >> absolutely. thank you. now, i want to turn to florida that's where the coronavirus cases are hitting a new record now. more than 151,000 reported in just the last week. think about that. three teachers in florida's
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broward county tied from covid in a span of just 24 hours. two more teachers in the district are hospitalized with the virus so joining me now is roslyn, the school board chair for broward county. thank you for joining us. how are you doing this evening? >> i'm hanging in there, don. it's been rough the last couple weeks as we continue to see people lose their life to covid. we're continuing to work in our community to get people vaccinated and to also have to fight the threats and pulbullyi of our governor in the state of florida who does not understand the significance of us mandating masks when we open school on wednesday. it's been really, really difficult and challenging but you know i'm blessed that i serve with nine board members, eight of which feel the same way i do. we're standing our grounds. we believe the lives of our
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children and our staff are invaluable. we won't be bullied or intimidated to place a value on their lives. we've been threatened to have our salaries taken away because we mandated masks. we've lost two teachers in educational support professional esp within a matter of 24 hours in our school system. but today we got a little hope because there was a letter sent from the federal commissioner of education dr. miguel corodono to the secretary -- to the commissioner of education in florida supporting our mask mandate and expressing how they won't allow us to have our sallies taken away. they gave us permission to use our elementary and secondary school emergency relief funds to fund the salaries of school
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board members and superintendents if the governor decides to hold those funds. so we're fighting on every end -- >> let me jump in here because i know, look, i've been seeing you on other programs on this network. i've been seeing you-all around, and in addition to having to do your job as an educator, you're having to come on explain to people the importance of this. you haven't opened schools yet. it's tragic. i'm sure that teachers and staff or, you know, they're concerned. what -- i know you're tired. but tell me, what's this like for educators, for the teachers and staff? what is this like for you and is this about politics for you? >> it is and it's unnecessary trama. at the end of the day when you're an elected official in this country, it is a democracy. you have a constitution, a state constitution that allows a local
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citizen to choose and elect local school board members to g govern the schools so not only have we seen massive voter suppression laws in florida under this governor but having the votes of our citizens totally ignored. they elected us as school board members to make these decisions and now the governor is denying that. so letting students go back to loving environments with their teachers and bus drivers in school settings, we continue to get these threats, we continue to get these attacks. our children are scared. our parents are scared. we have people that work in our school system from bus drivers to teachers to cafeteria workers that have preexisting conditions that have family members that are sick and many of them are the only breadwinners in their home so we can't risk them getting infected with this deadly pandemic that's killing
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people or leaving them with lifelong complications. >> yeah. i hope they're listening to you and again, i want to thank you for doing what you're doing. anybody helping to educate our children and keep you safe, we owe you a debt of gratitude. thank you for appearing. get some rest, please, and be safe. >> thank you so much, don, for what you do. we appreciate you, as well. >> thank you. have a good weekend. so this country just can't seem to get it together. fareed zakaria weighs in on why right after this.
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hospital systems in multiple southern states struggle to keep up with a massive coronavirus surge. florida and texas accounting for 40% of new hospitalizations across the country. ron desantis and greg abbott playing politics instead of trying to save lives fighting back against counties defying bans on mask mandates. joining me is fareed zakaria, the host of "fareed zakaria gps." good evening. good to see you. let's talk about what is happens because we're among a fourth surge. it's worst than it's been and people are dying when this could have really been prevented. we have life saving medicine. why can't this country hold it
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together? >> yeah, the hosmost important thing to remember is we're uniquely blessed. there is a small group of countries in the world that have more than enough vaccines. we're at the top of that list. we were ahead of everybody else in vaccinations. now we're not. most european countries have many more, much larger percentage of the country vaccinated and in that circumstance, what you're dealing with is something very deadly. it's very important to understand why this is so deadly. we have a large pool of unvaccinated people in this country. when you have a large pool of unvaccinated people, it means the delta variant twice as infectious as the first variant has a place to go, a place to replicate when it has a place to replicate and spread, that means it has a chance to mutate that is to change from one strain to another, many perhaps more deadly, perhaps more infectious. all this can be solved by not
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having that pool of unvaccinated people. we have the ofan opportunity toe a situation the virus has no place to go. we could have vaccinated enough people plus the people infected and we were done. we were so close to being the first country to truly be able to say the pandemic was behind us. >> yeah. the department of homeland security is warning about possible violence ahead of 9/11, the 9/11 anniversary, fareed and other religious holidays. online rhetoric over election conspiracies like the buildup to january 6th. how and why are we so awashed in disinformation? >> look, you can't help but say that there is one group of people and it's not all republicans and it's not all conservatives but there say body of people within the republican party, within the conservative movement that have really turned
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politics not into a process of governing, a game of governing if you will but really about ripping up anger, ripping up emotion, spreading false information, riling up people. it all symbolic politics. if you ask these people what do you want to get done in government? what do you want to happen? they don't have answers. not they like this tax bill or that tax bill. trump was in favor of a trillion dollar infrastructure bill. guess what? biden just passed a billion-dollar infrastructure bill. that's not what it is about. it's about symbolic politics to say the other side is the enemy and so poisonous, don, think about it, people are forgoing what is essentially a life saving treatment. they're forgoing the ability to save themselves from a deadly disease because they would rather be politically right than safe and healthy. >> politically right in their
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own mind and not the right thing to do but just in their own mind in the politically right. >> they want to be i right than safe. >> i hear people talking as i'm around in the airport and online and i see people saying i won't do it because people on tv on the news channels didn't like trump so i'm not going to do it because of that and i was thinking, you're not hurting the people on tv like me. you're actually hurting yourself and the people in your community. listen, before i go on and on i want to talk to you about afghanistan. it unbelievable the animation on the screen shows how fast the u.s. backed government lost control since april. the taliban controls about half the country's capitals. this is a two decade war, fareed. does that withdrawal there and the rapidly unraveling situation threaten america's foreign policy and legitimacy? >> it's not good news.
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it's a tragedy for the afghan people. it's a blow for the united states. no getting around it. but the truth is, don, we lost this war awhile ago. we just as powerful enough and strong enough we could delay it and draw it out and it complicated but the truth is we've been trying to defeat the taliban for 20 years. remember during the obama administration, the generals asked for more troops and a surge. obama gave it to them. they had almost two years with 100,000 troops. they weren't able to do it. we hear about these cities falling. they fall two or three times in the last decade. we kept getting them back with american troops, with american power. the question is at what point do you say this isn't working and the most telling fact here, don, look at all these towns, these cities falling. there is no fighting. the afghan army just melts away. this is a force that was built for 20 years. we probably spent hundreds of
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billions of dollars. some people say a trillion dollars. it's meant to be 300,000 strong. it's just melted away. people say that number is bogus. it was all corruption. all we know is that none of these people are fighting for their government. in that circumstance, when you have a local partner like that, it is a lot like south vietnam. no matter what you do, we send half a million troops into south v vietnam. if the army won't fight for the country and government, very tough for an outside force to do it for them. >> yeah. fareed zakaria, thank you very much. appreciate it. when you want to hear about this and more with some of the smartest minds in the world, tune in sunday to "fareed zakaria gps" and check out his new book. ten lessons for a post pandemic world. thanks to fareed zakaria. plan on flying somewhere soon? we'll tell you what you need to
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spike in coronavirus cases due to the delta variant slowing down air travel. tsa reporting the slowest day for air travel since mid june with a half million fewer people traveling than the pandemic record set ten days before. so should we be concerned about flying? i want to bring in an infectious disease specialist and senior scholar at johns hopkins center for health security. thank you, sir. a lot of people have this question. what should i be doing? should i be traveling? on and on. i appreciate you answering our questions. this delta very ariant is makin all reassess behavior, what is your take? do you think it's risky to fly
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right now, doctor? >> it depends if you're vaccinated. if you're fully vaccinated, you can rest assured your vaccine will hold up to the delta variant, what matters, preventing serious disease, hospitalization and death. if you're not vaccinated, it's a different calculations but the delta variant will find you if you're not vaccinated and poses a major risk to you. you can get it and spread it to other people, that's where this is. we have had a portion of the country vaccinated where they can go back to many of their prepandemic activities, pretty safely and we got people who are not vaccinated where this is such a major threat to them with the delta variant, the stakes are higher. >> i got to ask about united airlines, the only major airline to require employees to be vaccinated. are you concerned other airlines aren't doing this because flight attendants have relatively close contact with tons of people over the course of a week? >> it should be standard for all flight attendants and crews to be fully vaccinated.
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united made the right decision here and i'd like to see other airlines follow suit. you have contact with flight attendants, this are unvaccinated people on airplanes. this is something you don't want to have affecting your work force. if you're an airline, you don't want disruption atte attendants. it's not something you want on your planes and there is an easy solution to this. with all the things airlines have done to make traveling safe, the easiest thing they could do is have everybody else vaccinated on the plane, especially the ones employed. that is the best way to make flying as safe as possible. >> right now, everyone on a plane is required to wear a mask, but that mandate is expected to expire mid september. if it's not extended, there could be unvaccinated, unmasked flight attendants. is that a recipe for disaster? >> if you have unmasked people who are not vaccinated, that is just asking for an outbreak to
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occur. we know this delta variant is out there. it's not going anywhere. covid established itself in the human population. we'll see cases amongst the unvaccinated and the best thing to prevent the unvaccinated from spreading is get them vaccinated but in lou of them being vaccinated, they need to be wearing a mask. that has to be the standard in the high risk types of encounters where people are close together and less than 6 feet apart and social distancing is not possible. >> i flew this morning and everybody in the airport and on the planes were masked and i was saying why can't we do this -- why is it so hard? to get in the airport and get on the plane, you have to have a mask and perhaps that's something we should be doing in other industries as well and other falsecets of our lives instead of fighting a game. with this delta variant surging, do you think it's safe if you're
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fully vaccinated? >> i think this boils down to your risk tolerance. if you're somebody that's fully vaccinated, you -- like i said before, you can be sure that your vaccine will hold up against serious disease, hospitalization and death. if you get a breakthrough infection, and break through infections are expected, the vaccine will kick in and make it very, very mild. that depends on the risk you want to have. for some people that risk is something worth taking for others it may not especially if you're immune compromised and starting to get third doses into some immune compromised people. you have to remember covid is not going anywhere. it's established in the human population. there will always be covid cases and breakthroughs. our goal has been to tame this virus and i think that is what we got to get people to be able to do, make good risk kak calculations. >> doctor, thank you. we learned a lot. appreciate you joining us. we hope you'll come back.
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kevin mccarthy would rather use the mask issue as a chance to troll. although, who is trolling is up to debate here. speaker pelosi and mccarthy, she said mccarthy was a moron for opposing a mask mandate in the house last month. mccarthy is raising money selling shirts with the word printed in big bold letters. you might miss the fine print though. referring to freedom-loving americans who oppose mask mandates, what she was actually just talking about here, but anyways. it's clear he wants to turn the insult into a badge of honor. the way trump supporters did with the word deplorable after hillary clinton's infamous comment after the 2016 election but hard to imagine moron mernl me
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[truck horn blares] (vo) the subaru forester. dog tested. dog approved. 4 million people due to covid and the waves of grief of those left behind have been tremendous. this week's cnn hero knows how difficult and isolating it is to lose a spouse. michelle fernandez created a community of widows that can heal together. >> i would tell the nurse, tell him i love him, put the phone by
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him because they would not let me in. sometimes i just go sit in the parking lot just to be close to him. you know, april 13th, they told me he was gone. >> the worst day is the day they die. and the truth is that living without them is the hard part, but you have to make your way through. thank you for being here and showing up for each other. we hope people live and live through something that many times they did not think that they would survive. >> to see the full story of michelle and the people she helps, go to cnnheroes.com. thank you so much for watching everyone. our coverage continues with a cnn special report. what's it like to be one of the most famous politicians in
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america? >> love you back. >> to be adored and reviled with seemingly equal passion. >> boo. boo. >> get some of that too. >> and to be known by just three letters. aoc. a strange existence for anyone, let alone someone at 28 who catapulted from new york city bartender to well known member of congress featured on glossy magazine covers practically overnight. all part of being aoc. good evening. i'm dana bash here at the u.s. capitol. tonight is the first in a series of special hours where i spend time with people in the news and people of power and influence and try to find out what it's like to be them. we begin with congresswoma
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