news. new terrorism bulletin from the department of homeland security. it highlights the potential for violence surrounding the upcoming 20th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. what seems to distinguish it, though, from similar alerts in the past is it also draws on domestic factors. quoting dhs's intelligence chief now. quote, you have to pay attention to that which we are seeing right in front of our face. cnn's alex marquardt joins us, now. so, what is he talking about when he says what they are seeing right in front of their face? >> well, anderson, there are a number of concerning factors that have been addressed in this dhs bulletin. the way they look at these potential terrorists is really in two camps. the first, people who could be radicalized by foreign groups, like al qaeda. the second is more domestic, inward looking, like you mentioned. people who are motivated by grievances. people who are motivated by -- by racial extremism. by an anti-government sentiment. in that first group, that's where dhs is worried that there could be attacks, violence, in the lead-up and around the 9/11

anniversary. of course, this is the 20th anniversary, and so they are looking at that very closely. they do note that al qaeda, for the first time in four years, has put out their english-language magazine called "inspire" which, of course, is meant to radicalize people to carry out attacks. and anderson, in that second group, the more domestic violent extremists, they note that the pandemic has worsened things. and that things, like mask mandates, covid restrictions, could fuel people to carry out different kinds of attacks. they, also, note that there are a number of religious holidays coming up. and that those could, also, be targeted. i want to read you part of this dhs bulletin that just came out today. it says, the re-opening of institutions, including schools, as well as several dates of religious significance over the next few months could, also, provide increased targets of opportunity for violence. now, anderson, they don't mention this but, of course, there are a number of jewish holidays that are coming up, in the month of september. they do caution, though, that there is no-specific threat they know about.

nothing imminent they know about, anderson. >> nothing current, that's good. dhs and the intelligence chief, john cohen, he had his own set of warnings. >> yeah, he is saying that the chatter they are seeing in these extremist forums, the -- the rhetoric that they are hearing is similar, if not strikingly similar, to what they heard in the lead-up to the january-6th insurrection. he spoke, exclusively, to our colleague geneva sans and he said they are seeing things online like take action into your own hands, bring out the gallows. anderson, of course, that is not idle chatter. we saw people marching through the capitol saying hang mike pence. we saw gallows on the national mall. and cohen went on to say that, amid all the conspiracy theories, there is one strong threat that runs throughout this. and this is the false belief, the big lie, that president trump actually won the election. that it was stolen from him. and that, cohen says, has helped fuel the potential for violence. it's not just the things that they are hearing.

he says that there really is an uptick in -- in this call for violence. we, also, heard from secretary alejandro mayorkas, earlier today. he said that they are seeing expressions of violent extremism born of false ideologies, false narratives, ideologies of hate. so, what they are seeing, they say, is very dangerous and could lead to real-world deadly violence. anderson. >> alex marquardt, appreciate it. joining us now, congressman adam kinzinger, one of two republican members on the house select committee on the 6th of january. congressman, appreciate you being with us. as someone investigating the insurrection, in hopes of preventing something like this from ever happening again, are you concerned by these reports from dhs and others? >> yeah, it's concerning because, you know, on january 5th, we never imagined that january 6th, to the level it did, would happen. even though a lot of us predicted violence, up to that day. that's the new floor, now. and so, when you look at online rhetoric and you look at chatter that's happening.

and you look at, you know, maybe 100 people post insane comments like bring out the gallows. even if only two of those out of the 100 are serious, that leads to violence, i think, what the biggest concern is, is all this talk. a lot of times, just, you know, people trying to sound tough on the internet. but that ends up kind of feeding itself. and particularly, when people start brainwashing folks with the election was stolen. look at what all these patriotic people did in the 1700s. this is the same thing. the mask mandate is basically the equivalent of not allowing you to practice your religion. you know, which is 1776 taxation without representation. ultimately, that does grow into action and it's a real concern. >> the dhs intelligence chief is saying that the increasing calls for violence are linked to conspiracy theories, false narratives. the fact that so many people, you know, in the republican party, i got to say, including the former president, are still pushing the big lie and these conspiracy theories. you know, the fact there is a former president of the united states, still, pushing this

stuff. it does make it all the more concerning. i mean, it gives it a legitimacy it, otherwise, would not have. >> yeah, it absolutely does because in the past, when you hear, you know, in the '90s, it was the u.n. black helicopters. and you always have eras of conspiracies but they were never given oxygen by people in authority. when you have someone in authority that comes up and even if they don't directly say -- now, obviously, the former president constantly says the election was stolen but maybe, if he doesn't directly, for instance, parrot what qanon has been saying. there is little kind of winks and nods to it. or there's no disavowing of that. and that ends up, when somebody with authority speaks conspiracy. or when somebody with authority speaks that dark part in everybody's heart that we always have to fight against. the desire to hate. the desire to divide. it gives permission to what that overtake you and we can't be surprised when that happens to the large scale, like we saw on january 6th and like we're concerned about in the future. >> um, i really want to talk to you about afghanistan. the situation, obviously, more

dire, by the day. i mean, for anybody who thought, you know, i know -- you know, the former -- the current president -- you know, said in july, he didn't think -- i am paraphrasing -- you know, the whole country was going to fall very quickly. well, it -- it is falling, very fast. kabul is still holding. as someone who served there with the air force, what do you think of what is going on? and what the implications of it are? >> well, it's entirely foreseeable. it's entirely tragic. i get that, you know, now, people are talking about the polls that say, you know, the american people support the exit. let's keep in mind, the american people supported the exit from iraq, until isis rose up. and then, the american people, strongly, supported the intervention against isis. leadership, especially at this level, is about leading, particularly on foreign-policy issues. i didn't see a lot of americans on the street demanding the exit from afghanistan. but of course, if you ask them, they are going to say, yeah, we

should leave. but we had gotten to a point where a mere 2,500 u.s. troops were stiffening the backbone with air support, logistic support. all this stuff. i mean, we have -- we have great allies in europe, that are incapable of providing their own air support, for goodness sakes. so that's a minimal thing we can do to stiffen the spine. this was entirely foreseeable. and beyond, you know, judging the decision to leave, which i think is a disastrous decision, we had nothing in place and have nothing in place for the evacuation of the 30,000 afghan residents who -- who put their life on the line. who were promised a visa if they worked with us, as translators and -- and people in those kinds of things. and they are stuck in afghanistan, now. and you -- how are you going to evacuate them when all the major-supply routes, when all of the areas controlled by the taliban now? it's a tragedy and it's a tragedy that was entirely preventable. >> we have also seen now, already, images and will see more, as more bases are taken over by the taliban, of, you know, rows and rows of uparmored

hum-vs. and, you know, i saw some drones out there that have been, now, taken. things that were just left behind or left, i guess, for the afghan-national army. and i don't know if it was because the u.s. pulled out so quickly or because we -- they thought the army could hold, and they should have this equipment. but you, now, have -- i mean, we have seen this play out so many times, in the past, in different -- over different decades. uh, and it's playing out, again. and as you said, it's -- you know, we have seen this, before. >> well, yeah. and i think, you know, first off, any of that equipment, we can get a beat on from the air. we should destroy. but keep in mind, we have no observers on the ground, at this moment. so it's very hard to know what you're accurately targeting. it's not like in the movies. um, but secondarily, again, if you are even u.s. ground forces and you're fighting in a battle. we desire, demand, and need air

support and artillery support and we need communications and we need logistics and we need the ability to call for medevac. we pulled all that out when we left afghanistan. that was the lynchpin we were providing and even the afghan air force, which was becoming more and more capable, they required u.s. contractors to keep these planes flying. the contractors were the first to leave. and so, now, to expect the afghan army, who had been fighting heroically to this point. i mean, keep in mind, the vast majority of casualties, you know, dozens a week were by the afghan army that we're fighting. but they did need that support and we basically made the decision we're outta here. we surprised the afghans, we surprised ourselves. i think it's not entirely unforeseeable to see their will to fight break. >> i talked to admiral -- to former-ambassador crocker last night who, at one point, was ambassador there. and -- and obviously, has a long career in foreign service. he was saying something that not just this administration but the prior administration, basically, had direct negotiations with the taliban. and agreed to taliban demands to not have the afghan government take part in those negotiations.

essentially, pushing them to the side, delegitimizing them, which crocker believed caused a huge, kind of, body blow to support for the government among afghan-national forces. that it kind of took the wind out of their sails. i'm wondering if you think there's truth in that? or -- because i don't understand another explanation for an army that has more weapons, has more personnel, has had 20 years of training from u.s. forces, and is not fighting. >> yeah. well, first off, keep in mind, afghan-special forces are extremely capable. um, and -- and they're really good. you're -- you're kind of rank and file a and a. they are obviously still struggling but they were fighting, again, with logistic support knowing you have air support. knowing you even have the communications and the intelligence to know what is attacking you. is that a taliban -- maybe it's another ana thing that thinks you're taliban. i mean, the ability to deconflict that is important but i think the ambassador is right.

so under the prior administration, there was obviously a desperate desire to negotiate with the taliban. that was mistake number one. if you show that desperation, they're going to take you for everything you're worth. but they didn't want to negotiate directly with the afghan government. and instead of us pushing that point, we seeded that point and said that's fine. we are going to do a negotiation with you, in hopes that when we withdrawal, you will negotiate with the government of afghanistan. of course, the taliban said, well, that's great. we'll do that. yeah, that's great. and they knew we were desperate to leave. so, i blame -- look, i blame the prior administration and i blame this administration for this moment we're in. and -- and it's really sad and -- and i'm not doing it to just throw political darts. you are going to see a lot of people out there trying to just throw political darts for the next election. i think this is about something bigger, which is america's role in the world. but particularly, america's honor and what happens in the next conflict when the 30,000 people we just abandoned in afghanistan, that we promised a ticket to the united states, what happens when we have to fight in a different place? are they going to believe us?

>> in terms of those visas for thousands of afghans who worked for u.s. forces, interpreters, drivers, engineers, the biden administration is working with qatar to temporarily house thousands of afghans and their families. that's according to a source familiar with the ongoing discussions. i am wondering what your reaction is -- is to that? um, and regardless of what is, now, happening, it does seem kind of last minute and after the fact. it seems like this was not -- i mean, this has been an issue going on, now, for years. and it was an issue in iraq, as well. >> yeah. look. when i -- i mean, ever since i have been elected to congress, i am in my 11th year now. we have been dealing with this issue in iraq and afghanistan with these special-immigrant visas. you have a slow bureaucracy. you have had people that are afraid to sign on that final-dotted line because they are just afraid something's going to happen. we've been fighting that bureaucratic so it's not like this is a brand-new issue. and so, when the decision was made to withdrawal, certainly, before that announcement was made, which was made, by the

way, at the very beginning of the fighting season. if they'd have even delayed to the end of the fighting season, you would have bought a lot of distance for the afghan military to come to terms with that. but regardless, that's when they should have been preparing this evacuation plan. so it's great that the qatar option is possibly there. i -- you know, the administration needs to continue to lean forward, as hard as they can. but there is a lot of afghans that -- that -- that basically fought with us, that are gonna die and have died, already, because of lack of planning. and it's -- it's -- it's sad. but, you know, again, it's kind of the starfish in the sea thing. let's save as many as we can because it makes a difference but i don't think it's going to lessen the stain on us right now. >> i do just quickly want to turn before we go to the january-6th select committee in terms of the timeline. when do you think you are going to be issuing first requests for interviews, subpoenas, has the initial list been decided? >> well, i will tell you this much because we don't want to kind of reveal that strategy or tactic. we are moving forward with -- with quick speed. we want to make sure we get

thorough information. we don't want to drag this out. but we, also, don't want to rush it, unnecessarily. so rest assured, you will see some things happen in the public in the committee. that's great. but a lot of work is happening, currently, kind of, below that public sphere. and as that comes out, it'll be pretty obvious, you know, where we're going and what we've been doing. >> congressman kinzinger, appreciate your time. thank you. >> you bet. coming up next. given what we have been discussing, exclusive reporting from what was once or once were american bases but have now been overrun by the taliban. and later, what today's decision on third doses of the covid vaccine really means. we've got two medical experts standing by to answer questions about who will benefit and more importantly how to get that extra dose if, in fact, you qualify and need it.

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before the break, we spoke of the rapid deterioration on the ground in afghanistan. right now, look into the future perhaps in the country as we are told places that have already fallen to the taliban. clarissa ward got exclusive access to military bases where the american presence, once, was strong but the taliban now rules. >> reporter: this is what remains of the u.s. presence in much of afghanistan. the hollowed-out skeletons of sprawling-military bases, now under the control of the taliban. once, there were hundreds of u.s. and nato troops here. the last americans left a couple of years ago, but their memory still lurks.

the taliban granted access to cnn, along with award-winning afghan filmmaker. keen to show off the spoils of war. so we are just arriving at another u.s. base. and already, i can see a large number of military vehicles, over there. >> reporter: according to the taliban, afghan forces here surrendered three weeks ago, when their food ran out. leaving weapons and ammunition and more. when the americans were here, were you and your men attacking this base a lot? >> translator: yes, many times, we attacked this base when america was here. we did operations. we were using ieds. the americans had their helicopters, weapons, and tanks on the ground. we mujahideen resisted very well. >> reporter: now, they roam

through what's left at the tactical-operations center. anything of value will be stripped down and sold. walking through what's left of these american bases, you have to ask yourself, what was it all for? america's great experiment with nation building, now, vanished into dust. >> translator: it's our belief that, one day, mujahideen will have victory and islamic law will come not to just afghanistan but all over the world. we are not in a hurry. we believe it will come, one day. jihad will not end, until the last day. >> reporter: it's a chilling admission from a group that claims it wants peace, despite continuing a bloody offensive. since the u.s. began its withdrawal, in may, the militants have advanced across the country, at an alarming rate, on the back of american pickup trucks. on the highway, we pass base

after base, all, flying the militants' flag. at the end, our bizarre, it's a similar sight. the days of underground insurgency are over. and the taliban are poised to reestablish the very emirate america once came to destroy. but taliban governor insists the group has changed, since then. >> translator: the difference between that taliban and this taliban is that the taliban of 2001 were new. and now, this taliban is experienced, disciplined,. our activities are going well. we are obeying our leaders. >> reporter: a lot of people are concerned that, if the taliban takes power, again, women's rights will move backwards. how can you guarantee that women's rights will be protected? >> translator: we assure this to people all over the world, especially the people of afghanistan. islam has given rights to

everyone, equally. women have their own rights. how much islam has given rights to women, we will give them that much. >> reporter: that is, clearly, open for interpretation. next, to the mosque, we find a classroom of young girls. but their teacher says they will only receive religious education, and will not attend regular school. at night, i am separated from my male colleagues, and sleep in the women's part of the house with the children. i have been talking to some of the women in this room, and i promised that i wouldn't show any of their faces. but it's interesting, because, you know, the taliban talks a lot about how it's changed and girls can go to school, now. but i asked if any of these girls would be going to school, and i was told, absolutely not. girls don't go to school. and when i said, why don't girls go to school? they said, taliban says it's bad. here, what the taliban says, goes. this is now what afghanistan's

future looks like. far from what the u.s., once, envisioned and what so many afghans dreamed of, as the taliban pushes on towards an all-but-certain victory. >> clarissa, at the beginning of the piece, we saw names on -- on the one wall. what can you tell us about them? >> so, we actually went and found these people. these soldiers who served and obviously, they were pretty surprised to hear from us and very surprised when they saw and heard about the pictures of these murals, now, in the hands of the taliban. their base now in the hands of the taliban. and one of them told us, because we wanted to get their perspective on -- on how it all felt, all these years later, all that sacrifice, all that fighting. soldiers lost. and one of them said something that really just stuck with me, anderson. it really resonated. he said, you know, when you start out in the military, you think everything you're doing is right.

and -- and that it's all for a just cause and he said now i look back on it and obviously, hindsight's 20/20. i see, now, it was all for nothing. what was the point? what an unbelievable waste. and that just really stayed with me. and another serviceman i spoke to, who didn't serve at this, specific base, said something a little bit different but also pretty striking. he said, you know, a lot of us saw this coming. but it doesn't make it any less disappointing. >> clarissa ward, i appreciate it. thank you. incredible to see those images. up next, what today's decision to allow some people to get a third-covid shot might mean to you or someone you love. answers from dr. sanjay gupta and vaccine specialist, dr. peter hotez, next.

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for the first time, some americans with compromised immune systems will be able to get a third dose of covid vaccine. the vote by the cdc advisory panel was unanimous. the revised emergency use

authorization is only meant for people with moderate to severe immunosuppression. however, no prescription or doctor's note will be needed. it's strictly on the honor sfm. meantime, icus are filling up mostly with the unvaccinated but also with immunocompromised patients who have gotten their shots. florida, today, set up another -- set another record with nearly-16,000 patients, now, hospitalized for covid. and even states that have traditionally done well against the virus are getting hammered by the delta variant with hawaii and oregon, today, both, setting records for new cases. want to talk about everything tonight. covid with medical -- chief-medical correspondent, dr. sanjay gupta. also, dr. peter hotez, co-director of the center for vaccine development at texas children's hospital and author of "preventing the next pandemic vaccine diplomacy in a time of anti-science." so, sanjay, who is considered moderately or severely immunocompromised and eligible for the third dose? >> well, they put a list out. the cdc did on their website of the types of conditions that would sort of fall into this category. and we can show you some of that

there. i mean, people who, for example, have received organ transplants and they are taking medications to prevent rejection of their -- their transplanted organs. people who have recently been through chemotherapy. people who may have auto immune disease and take medications to tamp down their immune system, for that reason. it's an exhaustive list but, anderson, as you mentioned, it is kind of on the honor system, right? there's no prescription that's gonna be necessary. you don't have to show up with an antibody test to show that your antibodies are low. in fact, they recommend that you don't do that. so, it's gonna be more of a, you know, people generally know if -- if they're immunocompromised. it's a conversation they have with their doctors and those are the people who are going to be recommended this third shot. why they did it was, as you said, because not only did they have evidence of lower immunity. but they are also getting sick. people who have vax -- who are vaccinated and immunocompromised were 500-times more likely, roughly, to end up hospitalized,

versus the general population who is vaccinated. so it was really a combination of things, anderson. >> and dr. hotez, i mean, it is the honor system, as snganjay w saying. so it sounds -- i mean, is it just doctors? or can people go to local pharmacies and just say that they're immunocompromised and get a third dose? >> well, right now, um, i've heard from a family member and a couple of colleagues, who said that they've actually went to the pharmacy, today. the pharmacist or even their clinic. and told they were not authorized to give the third immunization, yet. so, that information from the cdc is not translated down to the pharmacy chains. and -- and some of the clinics. maybe, that'll happen by -- by the weekend or -- or by monday. but, you know, i think what we're going to see is this is the beginning. i don't think it's going to stop at patients on immunosuppressive therapy. i think it's going to broaden, over time, similar to israel. we've seen, now, information from the mayo clinic, this month, that we are seeing a decline in the ability of more

of the pfizer vaccine than -- than moderna to protect against infection. but the good news is the hospitalizations are, still, not going up in those vaccinated individuals and same with israel. we are seeing down to 50, 40% protection against infection. the big question's going to be is that just the tip of the spear? and then, we will start seeing hospitalizations among vaccinate individuals, as well, later on. and so, i think we will probably see a gradual broadening of the criteria for those who are going to be eligible for that third immunization. >> sanjay, do you see that, as well? i mean, israel, i think has lowered to people -- from people above 60 to now people above 50 and above. >> yeah. i -- i think that -- i think that's right but i think it is a really important discussion, though. you know, are -- are these post-vaccination infections going to be the metric, by which, you know, people say, hey, look, we need to broaden. you know, and give more third shots out. or is it going to be serious

illness, hospitalizations? i -- i don't know the answer. you know, i think it -- it -- likely, there are going to be more people that qualify for these third shots but i think we have to sort of anticipate, you know, even further down the road. if people are getting vaccinated and they are getting relatively minor symptoms, they're probably not going to be ones who get recommended third shots. but people who do get serious illness, what does that mean exactly? how serious are we talking about? i think that's going to need to be really clearly defined as, you know, we found that sometimes it can be vague, as we have been reporting on this. >> and, sanjay, i just want to clarify something because i think it's confusing and i read about it last night in the atlantic in a very good article. um, just to be clear, if you have been vaccinated, fully vaccinated, you -- correct me if i'm wrong -- against the delta variant, you are less likely than an unvaccinated person to become infected if you do come in contact with it and do we know how significantly less likely? and you are also, from what i understand, less likely to transmit it to somebody else and

is that measurable? do we know how less likely? >> yeah. so, with regard to the first question, you know, there's some real data, now, on this. because, you know, we sort of were waiting for this data but roughly eightfold less likely to become infected. um, you know, it can vary, depending on the specific group so that's across the board. >> eightfold. does that mean, like, eight times -- eight times less likely? >> less likely to become infected if you have been vaccinated and what i mean by infected means that you come back with a positive test. you may not have symptoms. you may. but just in general, eightfold less likely. as far as transmissibility, it's really interesting. there was a study saying that you could carry roughly the same amount of virus in your nose and your mouth if you are vaccinated as unvaccinated but what's different is that you appear to carry that for a shorter duration of time. so, you -- you have a smaller window, as dr. graham explained it to me, a shorter window by which you could transmit. so, yes, you could still carry a lot of virus but because of that shorter window, less

transmissible overall. >> again, i think that's so important because, at least for me, it helps me visualize and again reaffirm the idea of vaccines are really important for a whole host of reasons. dr. hotez, as i mentioned, we learned late today that this week, florida broke their all-time high for new cases during the entire pandemic. what does that mean for the rest of the country? and -- and could we surpass the winter surge? look at the graph there, it's stunning. >> yeah. no. this is starting to look really ominous in the south. where -- where -- where i am. i mean, we're now, if you look at the rates of transmission in florida and louisiana, they're actually probably the highest in the world. we are running neck in neck with botswana, in terms of who has the highest rate of virus transmission. that's how badly things have gotten out of hand so there is a screaming level of transmission across the southern states right now. and -- and now, we are starting to see this happening among younger-age groups. so the median age in -- in some of the hospitals here, in the south, there's only people in their 30s. we are seeing a lot of pediatric

admissions. even pediatric-icu admissions. and the scary part for me, anderson, is all of this is happening before schools open. schools are just opening now and i worry that is going to be an accelerant. and the problem is a lot of the executive leaders of the red -- of these red states, these southern states, have now put in place policies to protect the kids. they have not mandated masks. they have not mandated vaccines. when you have got the highest levels of transmission in the world, i don't see how it's gonna go well, unless we maximize all the tools that we have. >> yeah. i mean, that graph we just showed is really alarming. dr. peter hotez, sanjay, thank you. appreciate it. more in a moment on the covid threat in florida starting with new case numbers, plus four deaths associated with the one school district now in a battle with the governor, ron desantis, over its mask mandate. a live report, plus a member of the school board, when we continue. eed something different. oh, we can help with that. okay, imagine this... your mover, rob, he's on the scene and needs a plan with a mobile hotspot. we cut to downtown,

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just one week ago. again, this is a record number for the entire pandemic. but the -- the number that may capture the -- the kind of the terror of what this latest surge is doing to the state comes from broward county. currently, in a fight obviously with the republican governor ron desantis over its mask mandate for schools. the teachers union there says four people associated with the district, including two elementary school teachers and a teacher's assistant have died. randi kaye joins us now from florida with the latest. so what more do we know about what's gone on with these deaths in -- in broward county? >> anderson, this all took place in a 24-hour span earlier-this week. three educators from the broward county school district, as well as a graduate from that district who had close ties to the district, all of this information coming to us from the teacher's union president. and she says that the three educators who died were not vaccinated. it's unclear, if the graduate who died was vaccinated. but we are learning, a little bit more about those who died. all of them were women. one was a 48-year-old teacher from pinewood elementary.

another was a 49-year-old teacher from dillard elementary. and a 49-year-old teacher -- teaching assistant from dillard elementary, as well. the union president, also, tells me that two others are hospitalized. one is a teaching assistant, who was vaccinated and ended up in the icu. she was quite sick but i'm told she is doing better. and also, another teacher, who is hospitalized. unclear, if that teacher was vaccinated or not, anderson. >> the four who died. were they vaccinated? >> well, that's what we're understanding is that the -- the three educators who died were not vaccinated. and it's unclear if the graduate who died was vaccinated or not. >> are there others who work in that district that have tested positive in this latest surge? >> yes. since august 1st, actually, they've had 138 people/employees from that school district, from broward, who have tested positive. but what's really important to note from the union -- the teacher's union president is that none of the people who

died, earlier-this week, got covid at school. school hadn't re-opened, yet. and they all died before wednesday. teachers first went back on wednesday. students go back on wednesday of next week, august 18th. so, they didn't get it at the school, anderson. >> and what's the latest on the mask mandate in place for broward school district? >> well, right now, as you know, the governor here has issued that executive order. so there -- he was banning mask mandates in school. but broward did put a mask mandate in place giving parents the only option they could opt out was through a medical reason or a doctor's note. and now, the kids are going to be returning to school and there's an investigation for noncompliance but they are returning to school next week. there is a mask mandate in place. so you would expect that they would have to wear a mask. but we're also just learning that there is now an emergency meeting by the state department of education on tuesday, next week, to decide what to do about broward county and another county that's also under investigation for noncompliance because they didn't -- they are not following the governor's

executive order, anderson. >> randi, appreciate it. joined now by a member of the broward county school board, sarah, thanks so much for joining us. i am so sorry for the losses that are being experienced in your district and certainly our hearts go out to the families of those who have died. um, students don't return to classes there until next week. what do these deaths do to the level of concern of the community? and what -- what happens moving forward? >> yeah, thank you for having me. um, you know, these deaths are, certainly, a tragedy for broward county public schools and for the family and friends of -- of those employees and the graduate. um, you know, i think this really emphasizes the need to take safety measures, like getting vaccinated and wearing masks indoors, at all times, when we are in groups of people. so that's, you know, i think what we are really taking home from this. >> i talked to a union representative for teachers. i think it was in florida. i'm not sure exactly where. it was a week or so ago.

um, they're not -- they're not -- they don't support -- they don't support vaccination -- man -- mandatory vaccinations for teachers. is -- are -- i assume, there's clearly not mandatory vaccinations for teachers in broward county. is that something that the school board or the superintendent could decide to do? or who has the power to do that? >> right. um, i can't speak for the entire board or for the superintendent but that's certainly something i am interested in and we actually heard from the largest teacher's union in the country, the nea, today and they support mandatory vaccinations. >> oh, they do? okay. >> yeah. and i just -- i have to say, i support any avenues that get us out of this pandemic, um, as quickly as possible and vaccination is one of those avenues. >> and just in -- for your county, do you know how that -- i mean, if -- if -- who would decide that? is that something the governor would decide? is that something the school board would decide? >> you know, i have to look into that. i think it would be a combination of the school board

and the teachers union but i actually don't even know -- um -- if the governor would allow us to do that. i don't know the legality of that, in this state, yet. >> and the governor signed an executive order banning mask mandates in schools, as most people know, now. um, which is something the broward county school board voted this week to defy. what message do you have for the governor, as the numbers, sadly, continue to grow? >> you know, he has spent a lot of time mocking masks and vaccines. and i would just hope that leadership, at the highest levels of government, like, you know, our governor, would start to take this very seriously. and take public-health measures to keep our students and employees safe. and empower local-elected officials to do so, as well. we are the closest to our constituents. we are the closest to our communities. and we know what's best. >> you know, people on school boards. i mean, it is a thankless task and it is a difficult task. and so, a, thank you for what

you're doing. um, to do it, now, in this era where people are demonized and even if there's a disagreement, it's not just a disagreement between people who want the best for kids. it's -- you -- the one side has to demonize the other side and scream at them and threaten them and things like that. so what is it like to be on a school board in this time? >> it's, definitely, a journey. um, but i -- i do -- i do want to say that we've received so many phone calls and e-mails from the community, thanking us for our bold decision to defy the governor. and to act in the best interest of the -- the safety of our students and employees. and so, while, you know, we do have -- um -- some loud voices on the other side of the issue, we are hearing, overwhelmingly, from our community that they are thankful for our leadership during this time. >> sarah, i appreciate you being with us. and i wish you the best. thank you. >> thank you. coming up. president biden's crisis at the border. the highest number -- highest

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>> afghanistan is not the only crisis for the biden administration. as you have seen tonight, there's the covid surge and along the u.s.-mexico border there's a different spike in migrants illegally crossing the border into the united states. last month u.s. customs and border patrol had the highest number of people in decades. >> we're facing a serious challenge at our southern boarder. the challenge is made more acute and difficult because of the covid-19 pandemic. >> reporter: a surge in migrant traffic unseen in over two decades. an unprecedented number of migrants are escaping worsening conditions in their home country. braving the summer heat. global temperatures in july, the

hottest on record. last month alone, over 212,000 apprehensions were made along the border during the time of the year when numbers historically drop. the numbers were helped by repeat offenders. 27% of july crossings were made by those who tried and failed to cross in the last year due to a trump era policy that allowed them to be turned away at the border. pleas not to come to the u.s. not enough to deter those. seeking refuge. >> it is critical. they understand clearly they will be turned back if they enter the united states illegally and do not have a basis for relief under our laws. >> reporter: customs and border protection managing unprecedented number of unaccompanied children with 19,000 arriving at the border in july.

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these asylums faster. >> do we know what's causing the surge in crossings and is there any sign to come? >> reporter: there's always multiple push factors. when to comes to this on the border. it seems like a never ending crisis. you see behind me the reality of what's happening here. this large group, one of multiple large groups we have seen in the last hour and more are coming here just off camera. the biden administration says one of those push factors is deteriorating conditions in the home countries in central america and the anecdotes we're hering on the ground seem to back that up. i interviewed a pair of young mothers. they had children with them. one had a gash and the other not wearing shoes saying they were running from gang violence in their country. when you talk to the border patrol agents, they blame a democratic administration saying the biden administration has

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