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disaster zone. tonight matt rivers is in one of those towns in southwest haiti 80 miles from the quake epicenter. needs are great and devastation is everywhere. >> reporter: as soon as we arrived to the hospital, so did this man on a stretcher. first responders brought him to the main hospital in the city of jeremy, a city that has no room for him. inside, doctors and nurses are doing what they can to manage an influx of earthquake victims. so many have come in every single bed is full. so some are simply laid on the floor. there are broken arms and legs, crush wounds and falling debris. in the case of this 22-month-old, a shattered femur. my daughter is suffering, her dad says. i don't want her to lose her leg. dad said he pulled her out of the rubble himself. i love my daughter very much and i almost lost her. i'm very grateful to these
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doctors working with their bare hands. it's horrific for everyone. not far from the hospital, there is destruction on every block. here, ordinary people are clearing this debris because underneath was a grocery store. food supplies are thin right now so anything they can find will help. hundreds have died here. many remain missing. thousands were injured. far more than the health system can handle. at the hospital, there's only so much these doctors and nurses do. on a normal day, officials say they treat ten people here. when we were there, 84 people were waiting for treatment and more were coming in. we are totally overwhelmed says the hospital director. the patients keep coming in and we don't have the means to take care of them all. a doctor told us at least a third of these people need to be moved to better-equipped facilities. if they're not, it can lead to everything from losing limbs to losing lives.
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it's what his dad fears the most. he's doing his best to keep it together because he doesn't know what else to do. >> reporter: this is not an easy place to get to right now. we hitched a ride with a u.s. coast guard helicopter to get here. access remains a difficult problem. for authorities. damage along the ways. violence. lack of infrastructure. the end result of all of that is that the aid, the outside aid that is desperately needed in this part of haiti has not materialized yet. it's going to need to get here if things are going to get better. >> thank you so much. appreciate it. we'll be right back.
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the pandemic is far from over, new york city has come a long way in the fight. this saturday on cnn, don't miss, we love nyc, the homecoming concert. big names, bruce springsteen, jennifer hudson. l.l. cool j. that's saturday, 5:00 p.m. eastern time, only on cnn. the news continues. i want to hand it over to chris for "cuomo primetime." welcome to "prime time." to all those in power raising concerns that america failed in afghanistan, focus on this. if you are worried about failure, don't just spend time debating trump and the taliban or biden botching the exit, debate how to get americans out of afghanistan. the politics of our presence have always been deceptive and messy. the exit is too.
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here's the reality. trump made a rash deal with the taliban to leave by may 1st of this year. biden agreed and had it go bad on his watch. here is how the current president explains the state of play. >> it would have taken a significant american troop presence, multiple times greater than what president biden was handed, to stop a taliban onslaught. but the afghan government and its supporters, including many of the people now seeking to leave made a passionate case that we should not conduct a massive evacuation unless we trigger a loss of confidence in the government. what you can do is plan for all contingencies. we did that. when a civil war comes to an end with an opposing force marching on the capital, there are going to be scenes of chaos. >> do you agree with that assessment? it doesn't really matter. that's politics, okay?
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what matters is how we do what we need to do right now. lawmakers who want to dwell on who is bad when we have something worse staring us in the face, that shouldn't be okay with you. 11,000 americans have to be brought home. that's the damn job. that's what they should be shouting about. should it have happened first? absolutely. but can you make it happen now? can biden do it? are both sides of the aisle on board with keeping this country's word to upwards of 60,000 folks and their families who literally risked their lives for america. this is not hyperbole, okay? when people work with the u.s. in that region against the taliban or al qaeda or isis, they are as good as dead if they're not protected. and that's what they're told. we'll protect you. so will trumpers play the immigration gave with these people?
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will they win over the right side of the aisle? for people who risked their lives for this country? here's the latest, the white house says our military has restored order at the kabul airport and is successfully evacuating u.s. citizens along with afghans who have helped us and other vulnerable afghan citizens. i don't know what that means. they have to explain the last part. here's what should matter to us. u.s. military flights evacuated approximately 1,100 u.s. citizens and their families on 13 flights today. these are big planes. that's not full freight on each plane. a total of 3,200 so far have made it out including our personnel, according to the white house. why am i playing with the math? because it matters. the taliban only agreed to give free passage until august 31st.
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if that's the rate that you're taking people out at, 14 days from today may not be enough time. listen to the general. >> right now we're looking at one aircraft per hour in and out of the airport. it could look like 5,000 to 9,000 passengers departing per day. >> look, if you can do 9,000 a day for 14 days, you should be fine. but that's like optimal capacity and what if things change on the ground? the general said that too. well, the taliban could change their mind. no kidding. these are the people? two weeks away and they've only evacuated 1,300? the math is a concern, but the people you made the deal with concerns even more. okay? the taliban have no reason to keep their word to the united states. they're afraid that we'll bomb them. that's what they live for is to fight in the name of their faith.
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that's what it is for them. that's not fear. that is fuel for their zealousness. if we only control the airfield in kabul, which is what the white house says, and there are only 1,300 on flights. now you have some concerns. what if you're coming from somewhere else? how do you get to kabul? how do you get through the checkpoints. "the l.a. times" is reporting that the taliban is injuring, hurting people at checkpoints. and then there's this push, we got to get them out of afghanistan and get them to the united states. why? if it's a processing issue to try to figure out who these people are and assuage some of the fears about who you're letting into the country, take them somewhere else. there are a lot of friendlies in the region where you can get them out of afghanistan and away from the taliban. what happens when the 31st comes
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and goes? what if americans' families are still stuck in there with the taliban on top of them? then what? white house was evasive on that question. you know why? because they don't know. and that's why lawmakers should be focused on making this right. how to do it, what are the assets, getting the political will to get these people here. the threat to people who help america is a very scary aspect of this exit. you're going to hear tonight from a hero, afghan interpreter. he worked with our military and is very scared for his family who are still stuck there. you will hear from him, what happens to people like him and his family. listen to what he says he was told by americans when they asked him to work for them. if you're worried about failure, if america's word means nothing,
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if with the region and the world watching, you leave people to be dealt with by the taliban, that is failure. we're also not just going to play on the do it, do it, do it, how? we're going to look at what it takes to get this done. we have one of the people behind this iconic photo of the kabul exodus. there's a story behind this photo you haven't heard yet. you'll hear it tonight. i know it's about blame, failure, not a failure, biden this. there's plenty to go around. okay? this happened on the watches of four u.s. presidents. all of them told you or suggested or implied we were trying to make afghanistan a better place. it was never going to happen. nobody knows more than my first guest. he was the chief counterterror adviser on the national security council.
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richard clark is a veteran of multiple administrations and he is indeed a better mind on afghanistan. welcome to prime time, sir. >> good to see you, chris. >> what's your take on the exit? >> well, it's a mess. it was going to be a mess. but i didn't have to be this bad. the white house can say they planned for every contingency, but the evidence seems to be the opposite. if they planned for it, why is it going so poorly? you just did the math on getting people out. we're not going to get them all out. that's just it. we control the airport, we don't control anything else. and so if the taliban want to keep some of our people or block them from getting to the airport, they're not going to get out. as concerning to me is the fact that they released 5,000 terrorist prisoners. al qaeda members, isis members who were in prison at bagram air base. they were released by the taliban.
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our whole point of going in there in the first place 20 years ago was to stop afghanistan from being a base for al qaeda and now they've released al qaeda members. and we really have no way of knowing if al qaeda organizes again. the president said we're focusing on the terrorist threat with a laser. that's nice. the cia director was a bit more frank last month when he told the senate, once we're out, we're not going to know as much about what's going on in afghanistan. and so al qaeda, isis, others can reform, the taliban can help them do so. a, we may not know it. b, there's not much we can do about it. >> what was the right answer? i know you're an intel guy. what was the right answer? you have six to seven out of ten americans say, get us out. it's a hell hole. we've had 20 years without a major terror attack, enough. what was the way to balance the
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want to get out and the need to have a presence to stay safe? >> biden's decision was the right decision at the strategic level. he handed it off to his principles and they blew it. it's all a matter of implementation here. i remember when jimmy carter tried to rescue the hostages in iran, that turned into a fiasco. the secretary of state resigned the next day. i remember black hawk down in somalia. the secretary of defense resigned two days later. chris, there has to be accountability here. although the president made the right call, his people just aren't up to implementing it. >> they screwed this up. let's just assume that for a second. i know i'll get all kinds of phone calls about how angry they are i said that.
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the cancel culture of -- you made a mistake, you got to be gone. why not have them fix it? can't they have a presence in either -- at that base where they say, we're staying here, we're going to keep fill in the number of where someone -- a big brain like you says this is how many we need to keep eyes on the ground there. if they don't like it, they can go to war with us and the taliban won't do it. >> chris, it's very hard to maintain a base in the middle of a landlocked country. we need fuel at that base. it's very hard to fly it in. there's not a lot we can do inside afghanistan anymore. any counterterrorism work we do will have to originate outside afghanistan, perhaps on the ships at sea. again, as we were forced to do in the 1990s. why should someone resign now? why should there be accountability? because i believe in government accountability. i believe when you screw up at a high level in government, you should at least say that you did. you should at least offer to
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resign. i don't know, maybe some people have. but this didn't have to be this bad. we could have started moving people out months ago. we could have continued to have air power to give the afghan army some spine for a little while. none of that happened. >> how much spine were they going to have -- sorry to interrupt you, brother. how much spine could you expect the afghan forces to have when you were negotiating directly with the taliban. now that they're so superempowered, what can we expect the taliban to do next? >> we're going to watch to see if they let al qaeda and isis create camps, terrorist training camps again. but i think the application of air power during all of this would have given some of the people involved some spine and might have allowed the government to hang on to kabul
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for a while. but if you're out there, jalalabad, and you're surrounded and you have no air cover, you're running out of ammunition, running out of food, you have no medevac capability, and you haven't been paid in months, and the taliban come along and say, just surrender and we won't do anything to you, of course you're going to surrender. the afghans lost tens of thousands of people in their army. they did fight. they fought for years and they lost tens of thousands of their troops fighting. but no one in their right mind would fight under these circumstances. >> so does this mean that the taliban is now going to be seen driving around in all this american-paid, heavy military equipment? maybe fighter jets or something like that? >> no. for the most part, the heavy equipment and the few airplanes that they had will stop working because we won't provide supplies and contractors. a lot of the airplanes, actually, flew out to
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uzbekistan. so, no, they're not going to be flying around in our planes or -- if so, not for very long. but they are going to have a lot of weapons and it's going to be very difficult to ever get them out of power. >> last thing, if we don't get the families and the people who worked with the u.s. troops out of that country, what are going to happen to those afghanistan people? >> well, we don't know. the worst thing is, they could go to reeducation camps or they could be killed. that happened in vietnam. they were forced to go to reeducation camps. the thing that we have to remember is the whole world is watching. the koreans are watching, the germans are watching. people who count on us. the israelis, people in taiwan and our enemies in moscow and beijing. they're watching. and this doesn't look good for us. >> if you don't keep your word to these people, the entire world is watching. that's failure. richard clark, thank you so much
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for the clear eyes. appreciate it. >> thank you. it's not numbers. it's people, it's families, it's dreams and i want to introduce you to one of the people that we're talking about. okay? he volunteered to keep the united states troops safe as an interpreter. very, very important. they do a lot more than just language. his family is trapped in afghanistan. some of his relatives won't even have a chance to leave for days. he is scared. i want you to hear why he's scared and what he was told and what this will mean for him and his family. next. ♪ ♪ oh, focaccia! ah, there's no place like panera. enjoy the toasty, saucy chipotle chicken avocado melt on freshly baked bread. panera. order on the app today.
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only as good as your word, right? the world is watching right now. america promised men and women their families, if you help us, i know it's like a death sentence. don't worry, we'll protect you. the concern and fear that we see expressed by u.s. service members and veterans extends far beyond themselves and their american brothers and sisters in arms. they are worried about the thousands of afghan interpreters and other staff who worked beside them. what will happen to them? retribution is a light word for what the taliban has done in the past.
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yes, they have made a pledge of blanket amnesty. these people are not known for mercy. hope for some is so dim that they are planning their good-byes. watch this. >> i have -- veterans are calling me, messaging me, telling me about -- they're getting contacted by our afghan allies but also we're getting good-bye notes. afghans believe that they're about to die. >> i want to introduce you to a former interpreter for the u.s. military. he is scared. former line of work and service to our country may have put his family even further into harm's way. we're going to call him sam. tell us why you helped american troops?
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>> well, first of all, working with the u.s. military and army was to help in my own country which at that time there was very little people knowing english at that time. and second of all, they promised us to save our life as soon as or whenever they left the country. that was the promise which never made for some of the people. why was one of the person, people to be lucky enough to get out of the country and i have still my family in a grave threat of retribution from these so-called taliban terrorists. >> so you were able to get out of the country. were you told that your family would be able to get out also? >> yeah. i heard such a thing when i was
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working with the military. they told us, if you can, take your family right now with you as soon as you became a u.s. citizen, you can easily sponsor all of them. right now, i'm an american citizen but there is no way for me to evacuate my family immediately which they are in a great risk right now. >> why is there no way to get them out? >> because there is a rush and a system to the u.s. embassy and there is no embassy active right now. whoever i'm calling to get help for this matter, nobody answers. i keep sending emails different people, nobody respond to me back. and i don't know what to do. i even reached out to my senator here and then they referred me to the links and lawyers and stuff like that, which is hard. it takes years to just get them out of the country.
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but right now, the time is running out. there is not much time left for wait that long. >> is your family thinking about trying to get to the airport in kabul? is that an option? >> well, no. not right now. because most of the country -- well, now, all of the country is controlled by the taliban. my family live up north. when they go to the kabul, they have to pass through the provinces that heavily controlled by the taliban. and that's not safe enough to do that. that's even dangerous than staying at home. >> what do you want people to know about what you believe the taliban is capable of if they find your family and they find out that a member of the family helped the united states. >> well, they just announced national amnesty.
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but we all know, they're not standing by their words. whatever decision passed, they did not stand by words. now, in my neighborhood, i'm getting calls from my people and friends and they're saying, like, they are actively looking in the village counting how many people in that house are -- how many people used to work for the military or supporting foreigners. how many woman in the house, married and unmarried. there are reports from the people that i communicate with, they're saying they are trying to find those womans and trying to marry them for their jihadi fighters or taliban terrorists, which is just not acceptable for us afghans. we are people of -- over there, people are very restrictive about being -- dealing with the
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womans and the stuff. but things like that could just even take things to a very different level if they force people to marry with their fighters and stuff. >> what is the hardest thing for you, sam? what is the hardest thing for you in dealing with this emotionally about your family and what it means that america promised you? >> the hardest thing for me is, i feel like we were abandoned. i have a brother, my older brother, he worked over a decade with the german forces. right now he's in kabul. somehow he arrived in kabul. took all of those risks. he has his visas and passport in his pocket. but he cannot catch no flight. no flights are leaving kabul going to germany. it's all military flights. there were one or two commercial flights, but those were all mostly charter flights for foreigners. it's heartbreaking for me. he's there and all of those checkpoints are controlled by the taliban surrounding the
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airport, not inside the airport. and then whoever can get closer to the airport, they have to pat them down, search them for anything. if they find out he was working with the military or foreigners and has the visa and passport in his pocket, that's just a legitimate target for them. so they could just -- they can't sleep at night just like that. he has another week to live. what's going to happen that week? >> sam, we're going to stay in touch. you're going to have my number. tell me which way you're trying, who you're talking to and we'll help. i appreciate you telling your story to the american people so they know what is at stake. >> definitely. i'm glad to talk about this. thank you, you guys, for covering such a chaotic situation in afghanistan which not many people are covering it. i'm glad you covered it and help me talk about this stuff. thank you very much, chris. >> that's the job and we owe
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you. thank you for what you did for this country. i'll talk to you soon. look, you hear sam's story about his brother, his family, his desperation all over the place. the taliban is not dealing with some sovereign -- they're not just like a fringe political group. these people have a history of very, very horrible actions. that's why these people are running for their lives in and made this photo part of our history. crammed onto that u.s. air force jet, little but that their clothes. our next guest got ahold of this image and says there's a story behind it. next. your shipping manager left to “find themself.” leaving you lost. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. indeed instant match instantly delivers quality candidates
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this. when you hear the air traffic controller's side of the conversation obtained by defense one, they didn't take time to count. they just knew they had to help. >> how many people do you think are on your jet? >> 800 people on your jet? holy cow. >> the 800 was apparently an overestimation in the chaos. the crew's decision to help is one of the few things that left, right and reasonable can agree on. >> i hope there's awards that are going to go to the crew of that c-17. they violated basically every air force regulation in packing that many people in there and in the long run, that's going to end up saving a lot of people's lives. >> look, the problem is not overpacked flight. if anything was done to those pilot, that's someone who should be held to account. the pentagon is saying they're hoping to put 300 people on each plane. flights are leaving not that full.
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the story was broken of the packed flight, the senior pentagon reporter for defense one and joins me now. thank you very much for sharing the image and telling the story. what should people know? >> chris, thank you so much for having us on. this photo was taken late sunday night and just for all of us, this has been fast-moving, just to put it in context. that was the day that the flag came down at the embassy, panic had started to set in and this air crew, the skeleton crew, fewer than five, their c-17 was on the ground as part of the initial wave as the military was thinking that this might be an orderly withdrawal and evacuation which quickly spiraled out of control. the crew's c-17, the call sign reached 871 out of dover air force base, their back door was partly open. and a crowd of afghans started to crowd the airplane and load themselves on, pull themselves up and pull others up. and this small crew had to make
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a quick decision. did they follow the regulations and tell the afghans don't board the plane. as your previous -- this is against regulations. nothing about this was normal. and instead, they made a decision as a crew to load up as many people as they could and take off as quickly as they could. it's a very, very different situation. these aircraft, as you mentioned, normally can carry about 300 when there's a seat or bench configuration. and what they did here, they had everyone sit on the floor in a floor loading configuration. the only time i've seen this happen was in 2013 in a typhoon rescue. but even then, it was more orderly where there were cargo straps so everyone could hold on to the cargo straps. this is everyone taking every available space they could. once they had their full load, they took off and just -- what i
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have learned since my initial story came out, the crew decided to sort this out in the air. that aircraft, the destination was qatar, and the country did not anticipate that many evacuees landing either. it was a surprise on both ends. it was a complete judgment crew by the crew to save lives. >> they were keeping their principles if not the regs intact. desperate times call for desperate measures. please tell me there's no word that anything is being done to the crew. >> nothing is being done to the crew. there's no investigation. in my follow-ups, what i have learned is that this crew has -- it's been determined that they followed the commander's intent which is to save lives, get the afghans out of harm's way and that's exactly what the crew did. and that crew is actually back flying evacuation missions. >> tara cobb, thank you so much, for the story, for the coverage and the truth. i appreciate you. >> thank you.
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we got to be like that flight crew. everybody who has any kind of power or agency where this mission is involved, you have to be like that crew. because that's how you keep your promise. now, to the fight at home, one of the main faces of the resistance to measures that can help get this pandemic under control just tested positive for covid himself, the governor of texas. we wish him well. what he's saying tonight about his diagnosis next. ♪ someone once told me, that i should get used to people staring. so i did. it's okay, you can stare. when you're a two-time gold medalist, it comes with the territory.
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>> i have received the covid-19 vaccine and that may be one reason why i'm really not feeling any symptoms right now. i have no fever, no aches and pains, no other types of symptoms. >> thank god. i hope it stays like that. i hope the only change he feels is in what he wants to tell people about masks. because he was in this jam-packed maskless event last night where a lot of people may not have been vaccinated. i'm not saying -- he obviously didn't get covid last night. i don't think you can build up enough load that fast. but let's get after what this means for the governor and for us going forward with former biden white house senior adviser for covid response. andy, thank you so much for joining us. >> great to be here, chris. >> what do you make of the news that governor abbott of texas has tested positive for covid in a breakthrough infection, meaning he's fully vaccinated? >> well, it's unfortunate and i
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hope he's okay. i understand he's getting monoclonal antibodies which, you know, should not be just reserved for important and famous people. and let's hope he takes heed. thank god he got vaccinated. if he had gotten this infection without having gotten vaccinated given his other medical condition, i would be very worried for him. >> now, do you believe this sends a message that people should think more about wearing masks and about being careful, even if vaccinated? >> yeah, i think there's no question. hopefully he'll come back and have a change of heart and believe that too. it really is -- we have the kind of protection with this virus now with delta which reacts so quickly and brings such a high viral load that our b-cells and t-cells are able to mount a response to protect us, but sometimes that response isn't quick enough.
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to way to prevent that from happening is to wear a face covering and kids in texas in schools should be no exception. >> third booster. let me play you some sound that adds to the confusion about this issue. >> you do not need a booster shot. >> right now they are certain that no americans need boosters. >> we don't need boosters right now for otherwise healthy people who have been vaccinated. but it is entirely conceivable, if not likely, that we're going to at some time. >> it's likely that boosters will be needed for a broader segment of the population. what we're trying to figure out right now is the right timing. >> criticism. you guys should have just said nothing until you knew we needed them. no, not yet, no not yet. then when you say you need them, people cast doubt. now we need them.
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we can't trust these people, you don't know who you're talking about. >> i'm not part of that administration. look, they're doing something smart, i think, which is they've learned a lesson that you have to lay the groundwork when you're going to make a big change. and so what they've done in the last couple weeks by saying, hey, we're going to need them in the future. we might need them. it looks like we're going to need them. at some point we're going to need them. it's better than where they've been criticized before which is coming out with a change without not making people aware that it was going to come. what i think they're going to say tomorrow when they announce this is that we are getting ahead of the problem. we are trying to prevent the problem from becoming worse. we've studied the data. hopefully they're going to share the data. they've told me they're going to share the data which will tell people, hey, here's what we're seeing and because we're seeing this, here's what we're recommending. and we should look long and hard at that. >> two points of resistance.
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one, get this thing fda-approved and tell me to put another shot in my arm. and the second one is, whoa, the problem is the unvaccinated. it's not the vaccinated who are spreading delta. this sounds like they're trying to make money for big pharma. don't put a third shot in any arm. >> there's a couple of complex issues here. the reality is that, you know, my mother who is -- she will be very unhappy if i said her age on the air. >> don't. >> she said to me today, you know, should i get a booster when one is ready? and, look, i think all of us individually want the maximum amount of protection and what a booster will do is it will prevent -- it will reduce the amount of time we get sick and it will reduce the amount of time we get the asymptomatic infections that we can spread. so there's a positive benefit for that. but if you -- but there's another important point which is that what the -- what we really
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need to do is we need to stop the proliferation of this virus. and the way we stop the proliferation of this virus is by vaccinating not just the unvaccinated in the u.s., but the vaccinated -- unvaccinated around the globe. and so i really hope that we in the u.s. commit to doing both saying, yes, we're going to protect the people individually that may need some protection. but if we don't vaccinate the globe and quickly, then we will see the next generation after delta and the next wave and the next wave and that couldn't be more important. and so that is -- the u.s. as a global leader has to do both things. >> last question. ten countries are using 90% of the vaccine right now. that is not a good equation for stopping the spread of a pandemic. and all over this country, kids are going back to school. almost all of them are not vaccinated. too many of them are in households where somebody is not vaccinated. isn't the reality that we're going to be dealing with this pandemic for months and months to come?
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>> at least. look, the job now is to do many things at once, vaccinated kids. give final approval to the fda, get ready for booster shots, vaccinate the globe. all of those things have to be done. now the u.s. has taken the lead in vaccinating the globe. the u.s. is paying for vaccines for the southern hemisphere of the world. give final approval to the fda. get ready for booster shots. vaccinate the globe. all of those things have to be done. now, the u.s. has taken the lead in vaccinating the globe. the u.s. is paying for vaccines for the southern hemisphere of the world. the problem is it just can't be done quick enough. and right now the g7 country have said it's going to take until the end of 2022 to get 70% of the globe vaccinated. and i'm afraid based on what people tell me that if that's the reality we will be dealing with this for a long, long time. if we can accelerate that, if we can deal with that, if we can vaccinate the globe during the first part of 2022, it will make
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an enormous difference and it's going to take u.s. leadership, g. leadership, g20 leadership. it's going to take cooperation with russia and china. those are big priorities right now. >> one of the few times in my life and your life where america's message to the world will be don't be like us, get the vaccine as soon as you can. andy slavitt, thank you very much for speaking reason. >> thanks, chris. >> we'll be right back. very nice, very nice. land o'frost premium. fresh look. same great taste. so, you have diabetes, here are some easy rules. no sugar. no pizza. no foods you love. stressed? no stress. exercise. but no days off! easy, no?
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delta variant is now nearly 99% of all u.s. covid cases. this is where we are with hospitalizations across the country. florida is leading the way with the worst. harry enten is here to break down the numbers. worst means what? how bad? >> i mean, look, it's bad and getting worse. we've seen worse cases than we did a week ago, we see worse hospitalizations than we did a week ago. we see worse deaths than we did a week ago. look at that. nearly 17,000 people in the hospital right now. perhaps the one good piece of news is maybe the growth rate on cases and hospitalizations isn't nearly as high as it was but still, we're growing. so it's no bueno down in florida. >> i'll tell you what scares me is they are also a window into the future of everybody going back to school. >> their school situation, again, not particularly good. look at the 15th largest districts, what do we see? new covid cases.
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and remember, school just started last week. over 3,000 new cases among students, over a thousand among staff, nearly 15,000 in quarantine isolation. and i should point out this doesn't include miami-dade or broward, the two largest school districts in that state, because they haven't even started school yet. so the numbers are bad and schools just started there. it's most likely going to get worse. and this is just a continuation of what we've spoken about previously where we're seeing more and more cases and more and more hospitalizations among minors in the state of florida. >> the gop governors who are going after masks, how does it work with people? >> it doesn't work. ron desantis is one of those governors, right? just talking about florida. you talk about texas as well with greg abbott. look at this. in terms of mask mandates in school, do you support them in your own district? this is a new poll fresh out.
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69% overall. yes, republicans at 44%. but that's still a fairly high proportion. there's this movement to try and have state laws to prohibit mask mandates on the local level. look at that. just 33% of americans support that. just 16% of democrats. even among republicans it's not a runaway winner, with just 57%. so this idea of mask mandates, it's popular. the idea of stopping them, very unpopular. >> harry enten, i appreciate you going through the numbers with me. we've got to keep an eye on this. we've got to see what's happening and where because eventually it will be all of us. the wiz. we'll be right back. and strengthens it against dryness for softer, smoother skin you can lovingly embrace. renew the love for your skin with dove body wash. mission control, we are go for launch.
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i really do believe we're in one of those what are you about moments in our collective cultural development. afghanistan. did we win? did we lose? there hasn't been another 9/11 for 20 years. did you make afghanistan better? no. but anybody who told you we were going to wasn't telling you the truth. you can fight about that, but how can you do it when there's all that desperation on the tarmac, when there are people like sam and his family who gave to this country, who risked and now sit there waiting when the world is watching? what are we about? what do we wanea
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