be safe so they're happy that they're here in the united states. they want their daughters to be smart, they want their daughters to be educated, they want their daughters to be ambitious, they want their daughters to be strong women. the taliban, of course, has the exact opposite viewpoint. >> gary, appreciate it. thanks very much. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪

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our thanks. your rewards. as you've seen in our reporting tonight, the pandemic is far from over. new york city has come a long way in the fight. this saturday on cnn the city is celebrating, we love nyc, the homecoming concert. many big names in music will take the stage. you'll see it saturday on cnn at 5 p.m. eastern time. i'm going to hand it over to chris for "cuomo primetime." thanks. i'm chris cuomo. welcome to "prime time." we have tony fauci to make on the vaccine confusion and mask madness. but first, afghanistan. you have seen our reporting and others. you know the desperation on the ground, it's obvious.

you know the americans are not sure if they'll bring them home. the question is what will our government do about that reality? that is our focus here. and the answers so far, frankly, are too slow and too little. how can you accept the state department warning as many as 15,000 americans stuck in taliban country they can't ensure safe passage to get them to the kabul airport and fly them out? you must demand that the mightiest force on the planet does not surrender its own to this kind of fate from a bunch of zealot thugs. [ gunfire ] >> that's what you want your countrymen to surrender to? the state department should not be warning the desperate.

the warning is a desperate one to the state department and this administration. you had been do what you have to to get americans out. what does this country stand for, if not committing completely to protecting its own? another bad sign, the administration seems to be allowing the taliban to dictate terms here. >> we're going to get everyone that we can possibly evacuate evacuated. and i'll do that as long as we possibly can until the clock runs out or we run out of capability. >> we will get out as many as possible. >> clock runs out when you say it runs out. and as many as possible is all of them. that's what is possible. bring them all home.

now, the worst sign for the fate of many of your fellow citizens stranded in a hellscape is coming from our president who is not echoing the urgency you're hearing expressed here. >> all troops are supposed to be out by august 31st. even if americans and our afghan allies are still trying to get out, they're going to leave? >> we're going to do everything in our power to get all americans out and our allies out. >> reporter: does that mean troops will stay beyond august 31st if necessary? >> depends on where we are and whether we can ramp these numbers up to 5,000 to 7,000 a day coming out. if that's the case, they'll all be out. >> reporter: because we've got like 10,000 to 15,000 americans in the country right now, right? and are you committed to making sure that the troops stay until every american who wants to be out is out? >> yes. yes. we're going to try to get it done before august 31st. >> reporter: but if we don't, the troops will stay. >> if we don't, we'll determine at the time who's left.

>> i have to say headlines that biden says troops will stay -- that's not what he said. he didn't say they'll definitely stay after the 31st. that's not the truth. the truth is he was qualified about it. and it shouldn't be qualified. the only must here is to get the people out, your people out. biden must be pressed to do more. now, one step back, okay? for those who must see this in terms of political blame, first, stop scaring people by saying millions of afghans are going to come here. nobody is using a number like that. nobody. you wonder why people are criticizing that kind of statement as oddly reflective of what trump -- i referred to as his brown menace argument, about people coming over the southern border, taking your women and

your jobs, killing everybody. that's what it sound like. saying millions are coming here -- why exaggerate the numbers? this is about citizens and the people we promised to help after they risked their lives for us. we should all be on the same page here. and the doesn't have to be all come here. we have allies, right, options, right? now, in terms of why we are here, president biden did not start this fire. it is fair to say biden was given a bad hand by trump and co. they made the deal with these terrorists and then they started a major pull-out even when the taliban didn't do what they promised in that deal. trump's own secretary of defense, esper, says as much. but today it all shifted. biden could have changed the deal, could have planned differently, could have likely

avoided this degree of chaos, and the administration did not. period. and today president biden, frankly, sounded like president donald trump, feigning that what we're all seeing could not have gone any better. >> no, i don't think it could have been handled in a way that -- we're going to go back in hindsight and look, but the idea that somehow there's a way to have gotten out without chaos ensuing, i don't know how that happens. i don't know how that happened. >> they say they were prepared for all contingencies. clearly you were not prepared for all contingencies. clearly could you have gotten your people out first and done this early. and if this president doesn't grasp the urgency of doing more and better here, some words of his may come back to haunt him -- these.

>> there's going to be no circumstances where you're going to see people being lifted off the roof of an embassy of the united states from afghanistan. the likelihood there's going to be the taliban overrunning everything and owning the whole country is highly unlikely. >> happened. and that picture of saigon, we don't have to compare it to anything else. it's bad enough on its own. and the best reason that we may not wind up plucking people, america may not wind up rescuing people from the roof of its embassy is because they closed it so soon. but desperate efforts are not far off here. and know this: while those words may haunt this president, we may all be haunted by what happens in afghanistan and is revisited here. the people that you break your promise to, if they are left trapped in that kind of desperation, they may come back to haunt you as some of the most ardent recruits looking to

avenge the betrayal. we have seen it before. learn from history or be doomed to repeat it. so what happens now? let's brain storm with a better mind. former cia counterterrorism official phil mudd who helped build the afghan government that just fell. first, do you agree with my assessment? >> no, i don't. look, the question here is not whether the first couple days went well. they did not. the question is whether we look back in 30 days, 60 days, a year and say 50,000 people, 75,000 people, american citizens, afghan interpreters, friends of the american embassy, friends of the u.s. military, friends of the cia, did we get them out relatively safe despite the fact that the first couple days went well? look, it's like, chris, we're in the first laps of the indy 500 and we're 12 cars behind the lead and we're saying we lost.

the first laps didn't go well. that's not the same question as if in a month or two or two or three years we say we got out the people we needed to get out. let's slow down and fix it. >> i don't think we disagree. i'm saying where does your optimism coming from when are you had state department say to those people who were supposed to get out first, i'm not sure we can get you to where we can get you then out of there. so where is your confidence coming from? >> we can answer that in a moment. i wouldn't get them if i were the state department. but a couple things i would look at, first is relative -- relative security. that is, there appears to be some sort of conversation to deal with the taliban that means that thousands of people can get out today. you can reverse that, chris. there could be a situation where there's mortar attacks on the airfield, attacks on the thousands of u.s. military there and people can't get out.

if we can get 5,000 people out day for the next 15 days, that is a huge success. so my optimism -- i'm not an optimist, i'm a realist. my realism is the taliban appears to think it's okay to let people go the first day or two. it's certainly better than where we were three days ago. >> i don't know. i feel like we're frozen in exactly that place, the taliban is doing what it wants, we're taking the timeline from them. did i just hear you right? did you say if you were the state department, you wouldn't make preparations and plans to get americans that right now can't get to the air base? >> i wouldn't offer them safe travel. the comment i heard from the u.s. government is you have safe travel. i forget the exact term. safe travel to the airport. the other comment is we can't assure that. that means to me the u.s. government has some kind of

conversation with the taliban that says please let people who want to go to the airport go. let me give you the bottom line. we don't want 5,000 ubers a day from the airport in afghanistan going to pick up people who identify with the u.s. and then risking firefights with taliban along the way. one wrong shot, the taliban start shooting, the u.s. starts shooting back, people have to slow down. remember black hawk down. eventually i think people might be able to make their way to the airport, but i would not want thousands of care vans of u.s. military traveling through kabul right now risking a firefight with the taliban. that's a disaster, chris. >> all i'm saying is how could it be acceptable to us or anyone else if americans are left behind? >> it's not acceptable. my question is can we sit back and saying without the first 72

hours -- can we sit back and say over the course of the next 13 or 14 days until september 1st, which is what the president talked about, can we get the people out who are american citizens and the people who supported us? that's an open question. it appears to me the american people are saying we already failed. we haven't failed until americans aren't out and our friends aren't out and that chapter is not close to closed. >> we agree 100%. i'm just saying failure to plan is setting yourself up to fail. and i want to know what they're doing to make this happen over the next 14 days instead of just saying we just have 14 days, we'll do our best. i think they need to tell more. i think they need to do more. that's the urgency. it ain't over but it will be over if we don't do better from this point until we get them all out. phil mudd, respect the honesty and the candor and insight. i'll see you soon.

>> thanks, chris. see you. >> look, i don't know any other way to see it. i'm not saying it's over. i'm just saying you have to plan, you have to do better. how are you going to do better? telling people, hey, we can't come get you don't sound like better to me. now, that is the national security issue that we have abroad. we have one within as well. and it is a war and it is against a virus. booster shots are now all the talk. people are confused again. the reporting is they will be as available as soon as next month for fully vaccinated adults, and those who got it first will be the most prepared for it because they want about eight months since you got vaccinated. why was that decision suddenly made when most were told they weren't going to need a booster yet? how do we clear up this confusion about the vaccine and how good it is if you need a booster? the man to make the case is dr. anthony fauci next.

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okay. it's official. booster shots are now advised for all americans, eight months after you get your second shot. okay? health officials cited three separate studies today that showed covid protection waning over time, including this one that looked at 10 million vaccinated new yorkers. it showed that moderna's effectiveness dropped from 86% to 76% over seven months. pfizer went from 76% to 42%. the president says this is the key to fighting new variants like delta. >> this will boost your immune response, increase your protection from covid-19. that's the best way to protect ourselves from new variants that could arise. this is no time to let our guard

down. >> so the vaccine is the best way to fight delta, and the vaccine is not that great against delta. i understand why that seems to be in contradiction of itself, and it's confusing. so let's bring in dr. anthony fauci to discuss what this means and what this doesn't mean. tony, i talk to you all the time, i know the answers to these questions, but many people don't get it so let's dialogue this the way it's happening all over this country right now, which is if someone's vaccine hesitant or not sure about the booster, they say i don't get it. if the vaccine is a must have, what does it mean that i'm being told the resistance is getting so low that you need another one? it makes people suspicious. what do you say?

>> well, i think it's obvious that it's understandable, chris, how you could get a little bit confused by this. the vaccines do work, and they do work well. that's the reason why we still very, very much encourage people to get vaccinated, the 90 plus or so million people who have not yet gotten vaccinated. the issue is that over the recent weeks to months, what we've seen in the context of the delta variant, which is now well over 90% of all of the isolates are delta variant right now, we're seeing, as you correctly pointed out, a diminution over time of the response. it still protects well at this point against hospitalizations and death, but the protection against infection and clinical type of disease, not necessarily hospitalization, that still holds quite high degree of protection. but if you project and look at

where we might and particularly in the context, chris, of what's going on in israel, which are usually about a month or two ahead of us in the sense of getting people vaccinated and the dynamics of their outbreak. they're starting to see a diminution in the only in their infection protection and against disease but also in vulnerable populations and hospitalizations. which is the thing we want to avoid. rather than wait for that to happen, we want to get the response much higher and more durable. so getting vaccinated now if you're not vaccinated is important. the vaccines work. but in order to ensure looking ahead, instead of chasing after something like this delta virus that might actually be getting a diminution in protection, you want to stay ahead of the game. that's why the decision was to boost people. >> two quick things. one is this is you making the

decision and the team based on data, not big pharma telling you this to put more money in their pockets. >> absolutely not. it has nothing to do with big pharma. this was an analysis of it. the final decisions and -- i mean, we know where we're going, where we want to go with this. obviously the fda is involved from a regulatory standpoint, as well as the advisory bodies to the cdc. >> okay. >> but it's very clear what's going on. we're having a diminution of effect. this is not drug company stuff at all, no way. >> thank you for clarifying it. a lot of people are suspicious. the idea of we understand now. but within the team there seems to be a difference in the sense of urgency. control room, the sound of the members i skipped over, please play that sound. >> we want to clarify the need for and timing of a boost has

not been established. >> fully vaccinated individuals do not need an additional dose right now. >> now that's yesterday. does the messaging kind of stink in terms of coordination here? >> well, actually, what -- were you just -- >> no, dr. neela goswami and dr. kathleen dooling. they're cdc docs. >> i'm sorry, but i can't see with the screen. >> it's all good, tony. >> okay. the situation is if you look at the data that was analyzed, right now you don't need it right at this moment because the one thing you want to make sure you do is you protect people from getting serious illness requiring hospitalization. so at that moment, the

protection is still high but when you plot it and look at the curve that you just mentioned from the new york cohort, from the mayo clinic cohort, it's going down the wrong direction. if you look at what's gone on in israel, the same thing happened and then they started to get in trouble where you had more serious disease and hospitalization. so rather than waiting until that happens in the future, a month, two, three months from now, we want to do the boosters now to prevent that. you use the hockey analogy. you want to skate where the puck is going to be, not where the puck is. what they said is true. right at this moment the protection against hospitalization and death is still very high, but given the ominous signs of the protection diminishing for infection and clinical disease, we want to make sure we're not all of a sudden in trouble and then decide we're going to do something about it, as opposed to anticipating the problem and doing something about it right now. >> understood.

>> that's the explanation. >> thank you for clarifying it obviously. it's just that people throw this stuff in my face all the time about why do you trust this advice when this advice seems to fight it? that's why i put it to you. thank you for clarifying. one other quick thing. unfortunately governor abbott catches covid, breakthrough case. he's vaccinated, may have gotten the regeneron. let's leave the regeneron thing to the side. people are going to say why can't everybody get it? separate issue for a separate day. masks. governors like him and desantis are making masks a political decision. given the waning effect to the vaccine, what is your message to florida and texas about how important masking is, especially in schools with kids where a large percentage of them won't be vaccinated? >> masks are an important thing for the mitigation, the transmission and acquisition of infection. they are very important,

particularly when you have a highly, highly transmissible virus in the form of the delta variant. and that's the reason why when you talk about the extra added degree of protection, even in a school system where you may have vaccinated teachers and some of the children may be vaccinated, you are want to wear a mask to protect the children so they could continue to be in school, in person, in classes so we don't get the deleterious effects on the child of again keeping them out of school. you want to do that but you want to do it safely. and masks contribute greatly to the safety of the children. >> dr. anthony fauci, thank you for the straight talk on the situations that matter. i appreciate you. thank you for being on the show. >> thank you, chris. thank you for having me. >> all right. so let's go from the war at home to the war abroad. look, these interpreters, you keep being introduced to them, right? why?

they risk their lives an their families' lives to save the lives of our american troops. they're very vital. the country made a promise them to take care of them and their loved ones. this isn't a favor. it's a promise. you're going to meet one who is still performing heroic acts. okay? how could you not have this guy's back after you hear his story next. mission control, we are go for launch. um, she's eating the rocket. ♪ lunchables! built to be eaten.

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as many as possible isn't good enough when it comes to bringing people home that you promised to help. getting everyone out, full stop. the human truth of that isn't evident when you see the chaos of people scrambling for safety tonight outside the airport in kabul than for the reason we went there in the first place to stop the next osama bin laden. broken promises in that part of the world it can come back to haunt you. you leave people in desperation, they become desperate and they remember who put them there. right or wrong, that's how they see it. the only way to keep our word is

to get more people out and faster than we're hearing. >> right now we're averaging about 20 sortis and c-17s every 24 hours. we have the capability to increase that through-put as the department makes evacuees available. we've already evacuated approximately 5,000 people. >> just look at the numbers and why we need better. the 5,000 number that the general just mentioned is since sunday. the pentagon admits we need to be doing that much and more every day. a spot on one of those c-17s is exactly what my next guest is hoping to secure for his family, ismail kahn. he spent five years alongside trips as a translator. it's one of the most dangerous jobs. thank you for your service to america. i appreciate you taking the opportunity tonight. >> thank you, chris, for having me. thank you.

>> now, what are you doing right now from where you are in seattle to help back home? >> i'm basically keeping the united states' promise to the afghan people, the promise that the united states made to those heros that you and your loved ones will be saved and that's what no one left behind is trying to do to keep their promise. >> help me understand what it is you can do. i heard that you haven't been sleeping, you haven't been to work, you're recruiting friends in seattle. what are you doing? >> so five of my friends are sitting in the next room with me. most of me have their day jobs. they have left their jobs. so i've been in direct contact with a lot of people in afghanistan. they're begging for help. so i'm trying to get the information as much as i can and then create a file and hoping to share that with the state department and d.o.d. that these are the people in the system or there are some people that are

not even in the system but they did risk their life. so we are going to provide what they should have done a long time ago, that's what we have been doing. >> have you gotten any response from the state department or any indication that they'll be receptive to what you give them? >> negative. nothing yet. >> now, this is not just an act of charity for you, this is desperation for your own. how hard is it for you to be in seattle but to know that your own family, the people you love and care about, are in such a bad place and are exposed to the taliban because of your helping america? >> it's been really hard. i would ask every american to think about their loved ones, to think about their own kids and their family when they're in that sort of situation. my story is every single afghan who helped forces in

afghanistan. i am trying everything to help not only my family, every single family that are in afghanistan and begging for help. they are asking to get them out of kill zone. it has been a really tough week. i couldn't sleep because during the night, it's day in afghanistan and a lot of people have been calling, texting, e-mailing, begging for help, and there is not much that i can do but i'll push as much as i can. create a list, share it with the state department, push as much as i can to help out. >> how scared is your family, and what do you want them to know tonight? >> the last time that i spoke

with my mom, like it's been -- they're really scared but i was talking to my mom and i said like if anything happens to any of you, i would be blaming myself for the rest of my life and she was giving me confident that we will be okay, don't worry, and don't ever blame yourself, you did everything that you could to help the entire country, to help the u.s. forces, to help the family. so you shouldn't be blaming yourself for that. there's the confidence that she is giving it to me. but my brothers, they're young, they have never seen the taliban come and they have never seen how wild and merciless they are. so i am way more afraid than they are. they are giving me confident that we will be okay, don't worry, everything will be fine. >> ismail, as i promised to another interpreter who is trying to get their family out. i'm going to give you my number after this, please keep me in the loop what's happening with your family, what you're being

told. i know the country made you a promise and i know it's a promise that has to be kept, and i know it's frightening to right now to not know if that's going to happen and it's not fair. i'll give you of my number, we'll stay in touch, we'll do what we can but i promise to report on your story. again, thank you for what you did for this country and i hope the favor is returned. >> thank you so much. thank you, chris. >> all right, be well. >> um, in just the past few hours, two more school boards voted to defy florida governor desantis on his mask mandate ban. why? because communities are worried. parents want their kids to be safe. we don't know as well as the scientists do. we're not supposed to make these decisions for our kids, we don't know what the hell they're talking about. they join a school district mourning a death of staffers before classes started today.

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thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me, chris. >> what is the message to your community and parents who say the governor says the parents should be deciding. >> well, you know, we get into cars and if i'm driving in my car and i put my 6-year-old granddaughter or my 17-month-old grand baby in the car, i have to put them in a car seat. i don't have a right as a grandparent. my daughter and son-in-law doesn't have a right as a parent. when it comes to this public health crisis that we're in with the pandemic that is impacting people in a way that it never has before, florida has become the epicenter for the coronavirus. our positivity rate here are higher than ever before. it is impossible to bring 30,000 employees, 270 students into a school and on school busses where you can't practice social distancing.

so you have to use the mitigating tools that you have in your tool box, vaccinations and we know there are a lot of people not vaccinated. children under 12 don't even have an option to be vaccinated. we have to use masks. everybody has to wear a mask. we have to wash our hands and try not to gather in large groups. it is just no way to bring students back in face-to-face learning with at least 27 or 28 individuals in a classroom and have masks be optional. it's like you're playing russian roulette with people's lives. >> you've lost teachers and employees to covid. i want to make sure people understand that. now your county only has five pediatric icu beds. forget about the politicians. are the families getting the message? and have you been seeing compliance? >> we have. today was the first day of school. i had an opportunity along with our superintendent of the school

board members to visit about eight schools. parents were real grateful that we stuck to the mask mandate. today we had only two incidents, one teacher and one student that did not want to wear a mask. so overall everybody is complying. parents express how they feel safer and how thankful they were that we chose the lives of their children over following an executive order or rules that the governor and the commission of education put in place. >> what do you say to the governor about his desire to punish people like you? >> well, i find it very hard-hearted. i just don't understand why the governor would want to defund schools in the state of florida. any dollars that are taken away, he does not have authority to impact us as far as payroll and paychecks, but he can withhold money from our school district

that will hurt our kids. i just don't understand any leader that would not understand the importance of education and all the resources that are available for education being provided for that. i just have no -- i mean, it just blows my mind that we would even be having a discussion about defunding education in florida. >> ms. osgood, we will be staying on the story. we will be watching your county. we are watching the state. we are a call away, if you need to tell us about situations that aren't being addressed that are affecting people's health. god bless, and may everybody stay well. >> thank you, chris. >> all right. so now, what we need to do is kind of figure out where we are, as we're getting into this b back-to-school push with the state of vaccination. kind of state of play. okay? you know who just joined the hey-get-vaccinated push? the pope. he just cut a psa to get your attention. will americans put their faith in the booster shot? the wiz is here. what do the numbers tell us about where we are in this

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i'll never understand why it is that we insist on making ourselves sick. it's been hard enough trying to get all eligible americans to get the first-two shots of the vaccine. only a little over half of this country is fully vaccinated. no state reached that magic 70%. now, the cdc says we're going to need a third-booster shot. we just talked to dr. fauci, a little while ago, about the confusing messaging. he tried to lay it straight about why we need it. it's still our best chance. so why are we ohere are we on t numbers? who is vaccinated? who isn't? what is the true division? how are we about the booster? ha harry enten the wizard of odds in the covid-command center with some insight. let's start with the divide in this country. it's not red and blue. it's vaccinated and unvaccinated. prove it. >> look. if you look at the trump states, you look at the biden states,

that is the adult population because those are the people who can actually vote. look at this. 56% of adults in the states that trump won in 2020 are fully vaccinated. 66% of the adults in the states biden won in 2020 are vaccinated. you look at the different regions. northeast, west, midwest, south. a majority of adults in all of those regions are vaccinated. so you know, oftentimes, we play up the red versus the blue or the south versus the northeast. the actual shifts between those regions are actually, fairly minimal. what we have in each of those regions are people who are fully vaccinated and people who are unvaccinated and that really is the divide in this country, right now. >> telling you, that's going to be the demographic to watch in the midterms and next-presidential election. forget about red and blue. forget about the binary of democrat and republican. it's failed. it's going to be about people who did the right thing and people who didn't. you'll see. now, where did the vaccinated with at least one dose fall when it comes to whether or not they are going to get the booster? >> they are going to get it. most of them are going to get it. i think that is one piece of

good news at this particular point. look at that. 63% of them say, yes, i'm very likely to get it. another 24% say, yes, i am somewhat likely to get it. that's 87%, in total, of the people who already have at least one dose who say that they are going to get a booster. just 13% of the vaccinated population say, no, i am unlikely to get it. so, at this point, what i think we are going to see, as long as the public-health officials recommend it which they have, we are going to see a lot, a lot of adults who have already gotten their first dose. they are going to get that second dose, if they haven't, yet. and they are going to get their booster if they are fully vaccinated. >> the acute concern is kids with going back to school. under 12, not eligible, yet. what are we seeing, in terms of kids getting vaccinated? >> so this, to me, is really interesting. so if you look right now at age 12 to 17, right? those are kids who are, at this point, eligible to be vaccinated. look at this. those 12 to 17 make up just 6% of those who have been vaccinated, at this point. but if you look at those who have taken their first dose in

the last two weeks, look at that. up to 19%. so as school is coming on and these kids are going to have to get back in the classroom, what we see is their parents are taking these kids to, say, their local pharmacy to get vaccinated. and i am hopeful that that could help mitigate the spread so we don't have superspreader events in schools. >> so will getting it fda approved. okay. we just finished talking to the florida school-board official, right? instituted a mask mandate, despite what the governor doesn't want there. the idea of that being a muscular-political position. you are going to do this mask thing? you're going to force people? now, you're going to pay. how do people feel about that strong-arm tactic? >> one of the worst political things you will ever see. that's how they feel. look at this. even among republicans, do you report state laws where you withhold funds from school district with mask mandates? look at that. just 30% of republicans support that. just 22% of adults, overall. 15% of democrats. my goodness. you rarely ever see that type of agreement among democrats and republicans, that something's

such a bad idea. honestly, you know, ron desantis is up for re-election in a year, about. he will probably win is my guess but if he continues on with tactics like this, lord only knows because stuff like this, simply put, so unpopular. awful. awful. >> you know who's watching? charlie crist running against him. harry enten, the wisz, thanks for telling us this story, by the numbers. >> my pleasure, my dear friend. >> now, cnn, for we love new york city, the homecoming concert, joined cnn. this once-in-a-lifetime concert event, saturday, starting 5:00 p.m. eastern, exclusively on cnn. we'll be right back, handoff.

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