president biden addressing the nation today, telling americans the war in afghanistan is now over and marking the end of america's longest war. the president vigorously defending his decision to completely withdraw u.s. troops

in the chaotic final days as the united states military airlifted more than 120,000 people out of kabul's airport. tonight, more than 1 million people along the gulf coast, mostly in louisiana, without power after hurricane ida's devastating blow. the widespread power outages could last for weeks amid excessive heat. and a restrictive state abortion law could take effect tonight in texas. if it's not blocked by the courts, it could effectively end roe v. wade. i want to go to john harwood and charlie dent. thank you for joining us this evening. i appreciate it. john, president biden delivering a forceful defense of the u.s. withdrawal from afghanistan today, not giving an inch to his critics. what was the strategy here? >> don, i think what you saw today was part strategy and part personal impulse. on the strategic level, he wanted to explain and defend the

decision in broad strokes that led us here. that is that the war in afghanistan, it was time to bring it to a close. he not only deeply believes that now. he's believed it for ten years. obama and trump both wanted to do the same thing, but biden did it. and because biden did it, he's been for the last two weeks in a category 5 political hurricane. the proximate cause of that was the collapse of the afghan government and security forces, but the images that that put on our tv screens at the kabul airport led a chorus of critics, republicans, the news media, some democrats as well, to accuse him of being incompetent, unprepared, lacking empathy for afghans, that he took that heat. they got control of the airport. they staged this evacuation that got all but about 100 of the

6,000 americans in afghanistan out, that got 120,000 people overall out, tens of thousands of afghans. it was marred, of course, by that horrendous suicide bomb attack last week that took the lives of 13 american service members. but overall, president biden thinks both the decision was right and the execution of the withdrawal was strong in the end. they got control of it and got people out. and i think the intensity of the criticism that he received really angered him, and that's where i go to the personal impulse part. it made him angry, and he expressed that anger in the speech today. now, some people would say it's passionate. other people would say it's too hot. don't know whether that served him well or not, but he wasn't holding it back. >> charlie, the president called this evacuation mission an extraordinary success, but you think president biden should ask someone in his administration to resign over this withdrawal. why is that? >> well, i think that there has to be some level of

accountability. the evacuation clearly was successful in many ways. it was extraordinary what our people on the ground did. but the policy that led town this evacuation was disastrous on a strategic, military, diplomatic and humanitarian level. i think the president presented a false choice to the american people. that is either we end this forever war, everybody out, or a major troop surge. and i don't think that was the choice at all. yes, we could have maintained an uneasy equilibrium or a very fragile status quo. it's better than the taliban. i do think there has to be some level of accountability, not right now. but over time, i think there should be someone who should probably step down over what happened because i don't think anybody can say this policy made a lot of sense. i don't believe for a second that the american people wanted to surrender the whole country to the taliban on the way out the door. i hear all these polls saying that everybody wants out, but to surrender it to the taliban and

to extremists who may end up developing another base from which to conduct attacks. >> john, i see your expression. you want to respond? >> well, charlie clearly disagrees with the policy decision to get out and a significant number of members of congress do. a significant number of people who were involved in past administrations disagree with the decision. but joe biden was very clear on when he ran for the presidency that that's what he wanted to do, and i don't think we should hold our breath waiting for him to seek resignations for any top defense officials for a policy that he thinks was correct and that he thinks was implemented in an acceptable fashion. one thing he addressed in his speech today was, people say, well, you didn't foresee that the afghan security forces would collapse so quickly. that is true, and he's acknowledged that. but he's also explained in the speech that had he taken actions in response to the anticipated

collapse of the government, he likely would have accelerated the collapse of the government and produced the same situation. that's what he believes. charlie may believe differently, but i don't think biden's going to fire people for doing what he wanted done with the result that he is content with. >> charlie? >> well, look, there has to be some level of accountability. i don't know how anybody can really defend what has just occurred. i mean it breaks my heart to see this sacrifice. it seems -- i don't want to say it was in vain, but people sacrificed so much for this. i mean how can anybody, you know, think that turning over this country to the taliban -- look, trump and biden fundamentally agreed on afghan policy. basically joe biden implemented donald trump's, what h.r. mcmaster called a surrender agreement. >> before you go into that, and i promise i'll let you finish. hang on. as i said in the open to the

show, it was the former administration that negotiated the deal with the taliban, the one whose secretary of state and secretary of defense -- secretary of state met with the taliban. the leader of the taliban was released because of the previous administration. so there's a lot of blame to go around here, and who else was joe biden going to negotiate with after the former president negotiated with -- air quotes -- after the former administration had relinquished so much power to the taliban before the government and the military toppled? go on. i promised i'd let you finish. sorry for the interruption. go on. >> we withdrew our air support, our logistical support, our intelligence support, and then we were shocked that the afghan army collapsed. >> mm-hmm. >> i mean that's what happened. that was predictable. we can make a great argument about maybe we shouldn't have trained the afghans the way we did to be so dependent on us, but that's what we did.

at the end of the day, i think that we are going to -- this is hurting america's standing in the world, and i don't blame joe biden entirely for what's happened. obviously donald trump negotiated this deal as you pointed out correctly. he negotiated this very bad deal. joe biden was under no obligation to implement that horrible sham of a policy as far as i'm concerned. it's easy to blame trump, but fundamentally biden and trump agreed on the policy, which was just to get out and pretty much damn the consequences. >> yeah. thank you, gentlemen. i really appreciated that conversation. thank you very much. i'll see you both soon. president biden making the case that leaving afghanistan was the best option for the u.s. joining me now is a former marine corps captain, elliot ackerman. is a former cia case officer. we're so glad to have you back with us here on cnn. thank you very much for doing this. you heard the president today. do you agree that leaving afghanistan the way we did was the only choice for the u.s.? >> no, i don't.

i agree with your previous guest that there were a whole host of options, and the president in many respects has presented the american people with a false choice, that this was not a we either leave afghanistan and -- and a recommitment of troops. he's the president of the united states. this is his policy, and like your previous guest, i believe it's been a disastrous one so far, and i think there does need to be some accountability. i would hope to see the resignation of senior defense officials just because if there aren't resignations over something like this, a debacle like this, then what would there be resignations for? to me, that would speak to a culture of inaccountability at the highest level. so, no, i don't agree with the president. >> let's talk about the folks still there. the biden administration promising to evacuate the 100 to 200 americans still in afghanistan. do you think that is realistic because i know that you've been

trying to help people get out of the country yourself, elliot. >> it's going to be very difficult. you know, we've heard a lot about how the administration has this leverage over the taliban right now with regards to aid. what i fear is that the taliban also has a lot of leverage over the united states right now because we have more american citizens in the country today than were left behind in, for instance, tehran in 1979. so i think, you know, if i were the president, i would be very concerned about the number of americans we left behind, not only just on a humanitarian basis but also just on a political basis as well. >> elliot, defense officials were telling cnn that the u.s. military negotiated a secret deal with the taliban to help get americans to safety before u.s. troops left. why do you think the pentagon seemed so determined to show cooperation by the taliban?

>> you know, it's really been sort of puzzling to watch, at least what i perceive to be kind of almost an apologist narrative coming out of the administration with regarding to the taliban. there's been very, it seems, earnest efforts to tell us that this is a, in some ways, reformed taliban. and i think the reason we're seeing that is because if there were an acknowledgement that the taliban we're dealing with is just the same old taliban, it would make our cooperation with them all the more unseemly. but i'm very skeptical, and there's nothing i've seen particularly amongst my contacts in afghanistan, some of them who have family members who have been assassinated by the taliban in recent weeks, that this is any type of new organization. >> yeah. elliot, we appreciate having you. thank you so much. please come back. and be safe. >> thanks, don. >> thank you. i want to turn now to the latest on the aftermath of hurricane ida. at least five people have died. more than a million are without power in the scorching heat. cnn's brian todd for us live again this evening in new

orleans. brian, thank you for your reporting. thank you for appearing on the program this evening as well. i know it is hot. most people in louisiana still don't have power. give us the lowdown. what's going on on the ground? >> reporter: it's striking to us, to me and members of our team here, just how much people are still struggling a little more than 48 hours out after hurricane ida. how much people are struggling just to get some of the basics that they need to survive. and we're talking about just food and water. people are wondering where am i going to go for food and water because i can tell you that my team and i have been roving around this city all weekend and in the two days since hurricane ida, and there are very, very few grocery stores open. there are very few of any kind of stores open. and, you know, food and water are really starting to become an issue. we did visit today a food and water distribution center in the neighborhood of algiers in southern new orleans, and this was set up by the local city councils, plus a couple of private groups.

people were waiting for hours in line in their vehicles and on foot just to get one meal per person and a drink per person. so as noble as the effort was to try to get people something, it just was limited. and one of the people we talked to who was in line, ronald, was a little frustrated with that. take a listen. >> the food issue, the water issue, i don't think they have these things out quick enough. they don't really have -- i think they should have a medical ship here already for people who are in dire straits of medical need because hospitals, a lot of those went down. so it's like they say that they prepared, but they are not giving a good effort. >> reporter: so you can sense the frustration on his part and a lot of other people's part. we also visited the neighborhood around that area, saw some really bad damage, trees slammed into houses, roofs collapsed. and, again, the oppressive heat. people just trying to deal with that. we visited a family where a mother was living with eight of

her children plus her mother and some extended family. her 10-year-old boy has a heart condition. she was trying to make her own arrangements for what to do when his medication runs out. she's got to do this all on her own. so, again, just some of the struggles that people are dealing with, with no power in that area and the heat getting worse and worse. another issue, don, is gas. twice yesterday and today we visited gas stations here where there were really, really long lines of people waiting to just get either a tankful of gas or fill up cans of gas. people told us they were waiting for three or four hours and gas stations were simply starting to run out. it's just really, again, a really struggle because the refineries here and the production platforms here are still mostly offline. i mean you've got oil production and natural gas production platforms, don. we read something today that said more than 90% of each of those production platforms are still offline. refineries are still down. you know, gasoline is going to become a huge issue here. it really already is. and as it extends, you know,

three, four, five days out from the hurricane, you wonder when some of this stuff is going to get back online. >> brian todd taking us inside of what's happening there down in louisiana. it's sad. brian, thank you for keeping us updated. we appreciate it. you be safe out there. president biden says he is committed to helping americans who still want to leave afghanistan. up next, i'm going to talk with one of those americans still stuck there. >> for those remaining americans, there is no deadline. we remain committed to get them out if they want to come out.

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basir was living in california until he watched the afghan government collapse earlier this month, and he knew that he needed to get his family out. once he got to afghanistan, he tried to get into the airport multiple times, he says, with his mother and niece. but each time they were confronted with tear gas and closed gates. basir joins me now on the phone. we're only using his first name for his safety and that of his family. i'm so glad you're with us this evening. thank you for joining us. you went to afghanistan from the u.s. to rescue your family right after kabul fell. you repeatedly went to the airport, you say, to try to get out, but no luck. talk to me about trying to get through the gates. you said that you were hit by tear gas? >> yes. hi, don. how are you doing? so, yeah, i was in california when i heard that the government collapsed and people were able to get their family out of afghanistan. so i decide, and i left my wife and my 6 months old son behind

to go to afghanistan and rescue my family. they got a warning from the taliban that, your son and your brother who worked with the u.s. army, he was a traitor. so for that reason, i came to afghanistan to rescue them, and i went to the gate, the nds gate and also the airport gate. but my way was blocked, and they basically kept us away with a lot of tear gas and smoke grenades. and even one of the soldiers told me go away. otherwise, i'm going to shoot you on the head. and i showed him my passport, and i told him i'm a u.s. citizen and i have the priority to get out of afghanistan. he said, i don't care, your passport is worthless right here. >> let me ask you because i think people are wondering, why did you go back? could you have done something to help facilitate it while you were still here in the united

states before it got to this? >> yeah. well, i tried always, and tried to talk with a lot of lawyers and a lot of people to facilitate my family to the united states. but unfortunately due to some problems, i was not able to bring them to the united states. so when the government collapsed and i heard from friends and family that they were able to bring their entire family, like a person with a u.s. passport were able to bring 25 people with them and escort them to the airport. and for that reason, i left the united states, and i came to afghanistan to rescue my nine family members with me. but there was no luck for us. >> you have been emailing, calling, and texting the state department and u.s. embassy to help get you and your family out. have they told you anything? what are they saying? >> it's a good question.

so i contacted u.s. embassy, and i contacted the state department, and i was in touch with the lf 21. i contact them and i told them that, hey, i need to get out of here with my family because i'm in danger and i need to get them out of there. u.s. embassy did not reply to me. the last email i received from the state department and u.s. embassy was the 26th. and the lf 21, people, they were pushing me to go to the moi gate, which was trocontrolled b the taliban and there was no safety involved there because it's a long way. they were letting people individually, and there was a possibility for talibans to pull every single americans on the side and just kill them right there pause there was no guarantee. and i refused to do that. >> that was the reason for my

first question was did you think that you could have better helped them had you stayed in the united states? and my other question is, when you went to the gates, did you go with your entire family when you were trying to leave? >> i did, yes. >> do you think that if you had gone alone, if you were just going by yourself, do you think they would have let you back? is it because you had so many people with you and they thought you were trying to get people out? do you this inc.nk if you were yourself and showed them a passport, you think they would have left you through? >> there was an interpreter who was giving me a lot of f word and s word. so it's not a case of my family. it's in general they didn't let me to get in. >> the state department told us that they cannot verify in anyone contacted the u.s. embassy because it's suspended all activity. cnn has been told that officials made 55,000 phone calls and sent

33,000 emails to try to contact americans who wanted to leave. were you ever contacted or your family? >> i did not contacted by anybody, and even contact them and i give them my passport and my name, every details. and basically i filled up all the forms, all the surveys that they had available, and i filled it out. but they didn't contact me, and they never asked me to meet at a certain area or go to the airport so that we were going to evacuate you and your family. >> basir, are you hopeful the u.s. government will still be able to get you and your family out of there? >> i don't know. no. basically i'm hopeless right now, and i don't have any hope that the u.s. government will help me because i contact department of state, and they hang up the phone on me. so i'm basically helpless right now, and nobody will help me. >> well, basir, there are other folks who are in similar

situations as you, and we have been speaking to them. again, the administration, the president promising they're going to try to get -- they're going to get all the americans out even after -- obviously after that deadline that has already passed. so we thank you for calling us. best of luck. please keep us updated on your situation, okay? >> you're welcome. thank you, don. thank you for having me. you guys have a good night. bye. there's a midnight deadline. the supreme court has to act now, or a texas court decision could effectively end roe v. wade. stay with us. brainy on tv - 'l neuroscientist. and i love the science behind neuriva plus. unlike ordinary memory supplements, neuriva plus fuels six key indicators of brain performance. more brain performance? yes, please! neuriva. think bigger.

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a restrictive state abortion law set to take effect tonight in texas unless it's blocked by the courts. if the law is not blocked, it could effectively end roe v. wade. let's discuss with jeffrey toobin and laura coates. thank you both for joining. good evening to you. jeffrey, this texas law set to go into effect at midnight central time. it bans abortions at six weeks and allows private citizens to bring civil suits against providers and anyone who helps a person seek an abortion. explain how that would work. >> well, it's very simple to explain how it will work. abortion will be illegal in texas, period. i mean there is no abortion clinic. there is no abortion provider that will risk going forward giving anyone woman the opportunity for an abortion in light of this law. six weeks is a time that most women -- many women don't even know that they're pregnant. so it's effectively a ban on all

abortions. and this very strange provision of allowing private parties to sue is an attempt to insulate the state of texas from being sued to stop it. one reason why this is such a legally complicated situation is that there is no clear defendant in this case, and that's why the law was set up this way, and that's why in about 88 minutes, unless the court acts, you know, for the first time since 1973, abortion will be illegal in a state in the united states. >> so i don't want to overstate because this is what i say when i introduced you, and you just said -- we're waiting to see if they intervene, but if the law takes effect, right, if the supreme court does not intervene, what does that mean for roe v. wade? i said it could effectively end

roe v. wade. was that an overstatement? >> i don't think so. i mean i'd like to know what laura thinks. i think the point of roe v. wade is that states cannot ban abortion. >> mm-hmm. >> if texas ban as abortion in 87 minutes, that means that roe v. wade is not good law anymore. and, look, this is a model that texas has set up that the other red states, if this works, will follow quickly. >> okay. laura, i want to hear what you have to say because it bars abortions for, as you heard jeffrey say, for many women during the time that they don't know their pregnant. it would effectively outlaw 85% of -- what are the options now for opponents if there are any? >> look, you can't overstate this enough. this would allow -- if the supreme court decides to allow this to go into effect at midnight central time, they

could essentially overturn roe v. wade in a state without lifting a finger, without saying a word, on a shadow docket, not even addressing it, hearing oral argument on an issue that has stood the test of time for decades and decades. we're talking about upending the trimester framework not only of roe v. wade but subsequent decisions that talk about a woman's right to choose prior to the viability of a fetus, meaning it can actually exist and survive outside of a womb. what they're doing here is so sneaky, it really needs to be explained even more. what they're saying essentially, as jeffrey talked about, is normally you can't sue a state. a state itself has sovereign immunity. you would only sue somebody who could enforce a law. what they have done in texas is essentially said any person can sue anyone in a very vague term who aids and abets an abortion, meaning somebody who encourages, who drives you to, who performs,

who speaks to you about it in some way, somebody who may have donated money to an abortion-related cause. that person could then have to pay a penalty of about $10,000. this is something you could actually make somebody come to their knees in litigation right now. this is not how it's supposed to be. not only is roe v. wade still valid law under the supreme court, but remember the idea of a plaintiff who might have to have something that they cannot reverse in the form of having a risk of imminent harm by a law, they can't now go to the courts to redress their grievance. they have doctors who now can't perform what is legal under roe v. wade. the only option now essentially is for the supreme court to either say, look, the fifth circuit has to say that the lower court actually gets to decide at this point in time whether the law is actually unconstitutional, or the supreme court can do it themselves. but the idea of under the cover of darkness, without lifting a

finger, without writing an opinion, without hearing oral argument, without having it fully briefed, and there is presently a case on the docket, they could essentially say, you know what? all the hard work is done. and then imagine what would happen in other contexts here. what if another state were to adopt a law that said a private litigant can bring an action for a $10,000 bounty on somebody who owns a gun? well, this is a way to go around and have an end run around things where the constitution or the supreme court has effectively weighed in on an issue. this is something that cannot be overstated. it is shocking that we are finding ourselves minutes away, and the supreme court has said absolutely nothing. >> jeffrey. >> you know, it's painful sometimes to go through legal procedure, but the procedure here really is something very important. i mean everybody knows that the supreme court's year starts on the first monday in october and all the big decisions come out

usually about the end of june. and there are arguments, and there are briefs filed, and everybody gets to know what's before the supreme court. here it is at the end of august, while the supreme court is not even in session. abortion is going to become illegal. this major issue in american life, this hugely divisive issue politically, legally is about to change overnight without anything, without any sort of argument, without any sort of opinion. it's just going to sort of happen. i mean, again, if we don't hear from the supreme court in the next, you know, 83 minutes. it's just -- i mean it's just an outrageous way to run a legal system or a political system to have a change this momentous happen, as laura said, you know, with no -- with no decision at

all. just sort of happening. >> jeffrey, you said abortion is about to become illegal. if the supreme court doesn't step in now when it does come back in october, can they overturn it? can they change it? >> that's a very interesting question. there is a case already before the supreme court in the traditional manner out of mississippi, a very similar restrictive law where they are going to, you know, receive briefs and hear oral argument and decide the case in the customary manner. but, you know, the political environment and the real-world situation will be very different because, you know, mississippi's law currently has been stayed because it is in conflict with roe v. wade. but if texas has already made abortion illegal, the mississippi case will look very different. >> mm-hmm. >> laura, i'll give you the

final world. >> real quick, all hope is not lost in the sense that this law being challenged. even if the supreme court were to allow this to go into effect, a litigant could bring a suit if they are in fact sued by somebody for that $10,000 fine and could argue that they don't have to pay the fine because it's unconstitutional. but, again, this is after the fact, being reactive when roe v. wade already allowed for the proactive ability not to have laws like this even exist. >> boy, oh, boy. interesting. laura, thank you. jeffrey, thank you. what a predicament. we'll be watching it. i appreciate both of you. so he's telling companies not to work with january 6th investigators. what's house minority leader kevin mccarthy so afraid of? could be hiding in your pipes.e try finish dishwasher cleaner its dual action formula hygienically cleans

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so the house minority leader kevin mccarthy issuing a warning shot to the telecommunication and social media companies asked by the house january 6th select committee to preserve the records of lawmakers and private citizens. he says if these companies comply with the democrat order to turn over private information, they are in violation of federal law and subject to losing their ability to operate in the united states. a republican majority will not forget and will stand with americans to hold them fully accountable under law. it's supposed to be democratic, kevin. anyway, it was only yesterday cnn broke the story that the january 6th select committee was looking to preserve the phone

records of a list of lawmakers and members of the former president's family, president trump's family, who could have been involved in this stop the steal rally right before the insurrection. joining me, amanda carpenter and scott jennings. good evening to both of you. amanda -- >> i think there's a tell here in that kevin mccarthy didn't point out -- >> scott, she jumped right in with no question, so you need to learn from that. but go on. i want to hear what you have to say. >> there's a tell here in kevin mccarthy's statement slash threat in that he can't point to an actual federal law that is being violated. this does seem quite clownish, but i'm not telling anyone to dismiss it at all because it seems to be the message coming from a lot of republicans. marjorie taylor greene was on

another network saying if phone companies did this, they'd shut them down. even mitch mcconnell earlier this year, unrelated to a january 6th committee investigation, he was openly threatening companies that there would be consequences if they opposed him on voting rights. this is a trend within the republican party that i am concerned about as a rule of law republican who doesn't believe in retaliatory policies being enacted on political enemies. >> scott, she mentioned marjorie taylor greene, doubling down on the threat to shut these companies down. let's listen and i'll get your response. >> these telecommunications companies, if they go along with this, they will be shut down, and that's a promise. >> so, scott, the select committee releasing a statement tonight saying they won't be deterred by those who want to whitewash or cover up the events of january 6th or obstruct our investigation. and between greene and mccarthy, it seems like some -- you know,

it's thou doth protest too much going on. >> my view is they're trying to virtue signal to the republicans out there, trying to throw some lines in the water to make the conservatives believe they're going to fight this. the reality is these things get fought all the time, but we do it in the courts. we don't do it with retribution via legislation, particularly legislation that would interfere with the free market. there are probably legitimate questions about obtaining the communications of lawmakers, also obtaining communications within the executive branch. there are probably legitimate questions of executive privilege. but there's a place where all this gets sorted out, and it's not necessarily on the floor of congress, but it's in the courts. so i think if somebody, a company or an individual thinks they've been wronged by this committee, they can take it to court and a judge can decide, and that process plays out rather routinely. i'm a little dismayed we would threaten future legislative action over this. it takes us down a frankly pretty bad path as a party since we've been protective of private

companies in the past and their rights and privacy rights of private companies. >> isn't this cancel culture, scott? they're trying to cancel people for complying with court orders? >> yes, because corporations are people. >> the threat to cancel a company's existence, i guess, would technically be cancel culture, yes. that would be one way to look at it. this is not good legislative practice. i mean particularly when you have a whole other branch of government that exists to sort these things out. >> we're going to be talking about letting some of the refugees in the country. is there a lot of hypocrisy going on over that? stay with me. we'll be back in a moment. can you repair your credit yourself? yes. -great. how? uhhh... how long does credit repair take? i don't know, like 10 years. what? are you insane? what's a good credit score? go. 600. maybe if you're trying to pay thousands extra

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so back now with amanda carpenter and scott jennings. the amanda, the gop also on the attack over the afghanistan withdrawal with gop lawmakers fearmongering over afghan refugees coming to the united states. the biden administration is vetting afghans before they arrive in the u.s. and, again, once they land in the united states. so why these scare tactics about saying, you know, they're going to be future boston marathon bombers or rape young girls? >> well, i think the end of this war was completely chaotic, and i'm not excusing some of the comments that some of these congressmen have had, who i truly believe are outliers in this situation. i would just say this isn't an

ideal way to bring any new people into our country. i think some of the people coming here will become the best americans. anyone that fought through a taliban crowd to get themselves through an airport probably because they relied on their friends who they phoned and whatsapp signaled and were probably already in lines for special immigrant visas, that's qualification enough for me. and if they want to vet these children standing in airports, go ahead because the tears streaming down their face and the peace signs they throw up for photos is enough for me. >> scott, i think everyone want a very strict vetting process here, but just respond. >> yeah. look, i support the vetting. i think the vetting is going on, and i agree with what you said. i think it will continue to go on. we have a long, proud history of accepting refugees in this country and we have a long,

proud history of supporting people who have supported us. i'm in kentucky tonight. we have several hundred afghan refugees. i think the first families are just now arriving in kentucky. i'm proud they're coming here. i'm proud to live in a state where we're going to accept these folks because i agree with amanda. i think most of them are going to become the best americans. they've already been working on our behalf. that doesn't mean we shouldn't continue to do the vetting process i know is already under way. but to say these people are going to show up and become numerous bombers and rapists, it's just -- it's wrong. the rhetoric is not right, and i think if you wanted to talk to somebody about the people that we're bringing over, talk to some of our military leaders. talk to some of our soldiers, some of our special forces guys who have relied on these folks over the last 20 years. they'll tell you what kind of people they are, and i'm sure they'd be proud to have them in america. i know i'm proud to have them in kentucky. >> that's got to be the last word. thank you both. thank you for watching, everyone. you have a good night. our coverage continues.

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welcome to our viewers joining us here in the united states and all around the world. i'm rosemary church. we begin with this breaking news, texas is now home to the most restrictive abortion law in the united states. it would ban abortions at six week of pregnancy before most women even know they are pregnant. there are no exceptions for rape or incest, only medical emergencies. the u.s. supreme court and a federal appeals court