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another hard night for so many. wildfires in the west, historic rainfall, flooding in the south. now the northeast and midatlantic, dozens killed. and in truth we don't really know the full toll. at least 46 are dead, and some of the worst flooding we've ever seen connecticut to virginia, remnants from ida. also submerged many parts of louisiana as a hurricane, and they've been reeling since sunday, and that will last many weeks. the intensity of the rainfall so much so soon it even took meteorologists by surprise. half the deaths reported so far from ida as a storm, new jersey. the governor there says the majority killed they were people caught in their vehicles, overtaken by water. again, we didn't expect this not so much so fast. a state trooper in connecticut was also tragically swept away as he responded to a missing

persons point. at least eight confirmed tornados in the northeast, many of them destroying homes kind of turbocharging the water, more flooding and destruction. in new york there was more rain in a few hours than usual ein a months time. subway riders stranded. they were confronted by what you see, gushes of water that nearly set the whole system down. we have team coverage oof the latest of the rescue missions still under way tonight. we have miguel marquez, jason carol in queens, new york. we have pete munteen in philadelphia. we were saying how it's not water you really want to be playing with, but how much is the pumping effort in and around the flooding area making a

difference? >> yeah, i'm going to set the scene for you first, chris. this is the vine street expressway here which would be typically filled with cars. instead filled with water. and maybe the worst part is that it's not really gone down all that much. in the last five hours alone the water has gone down maybe a foot. you can see some of kayakers out there. they're out here and they told me they were able to stick their entire paddle into the water. so at least 6 or 7 feet deep out there. the water about halfway up from where the bottom of the road would be. and near the top -- sorry, the bottom of the 21st street expressway there. so really intense flooding there, and this water relatively stagnant here on the vine street expressway. a huge artery through the center of philadelphia. it connects # 6 76 on the west.

and the real bad part we've already gone through one rush hour with this like this, and it seems we'll probably go through another one tomorrow morn wg the vine street expressway like this again. so a huge impact philadelphia wide. we're only just scratching the sufrts here, though, on the flooding happening in the city and beyond. the schuylkill river crested about 17 feet earlier today. it's forecasted by the national weather service to go below flood stage before midnight, but the flooding warning persists here in philadelphia until 7:00 tomorrow morning. hundreds of calls for water rescues in neighboring montgomery county alone. we know of the four deaths in pennsylvania, three of them are montgomery county, one of them in the town of bridgeport according to the mayor there where dozens of homes were flooded about three quarters of the way up. you know, beyond the mortal toll here is the monetary toll, chris.

millions, maybe tens of millions, maybe hundreds of millions to clean this all up. and then the cost to beef up this infrastructure to make it more resistant to climate emergencies like this. a term called climate resilience, something you're going to hear a lot of in the next few days. >> i'll tell you here we are on labor day weekend where people are supposed to get a break, they're going to be working more than ever to get out of the mess down there. let's talk about what's happening here in new york specifically queens. 11 deaths reported in queens out of 13 citywide. why? areas vulnerable to flooding, people caught by surprise, and it was just too much water too soon. i'm going to keep saying it because it's why this happened. earlier we spoke to a couple who suffered severe damage to their home, and two of their neighbors died in the storm. >> that could have been me. that could have been my daughter or my other neighbor's daughter. we're like a family here.

this flood has brought us so close together so this loss is so huge for us. it is extensive. we have been on the streets. nobody has gone into their houses because we cannot comprehend what is going on here. we just lost a kid and his mother just like that? >> jason carol there in hollis, queens. they're not wrong that area is prone to flooding. but some of her frustration and anger is exactly based on that, jason. they didn't see ida coming this way, this intense but people should have known they would need more help, and where is it? >> i mean, look, when you think about what's happened here the nypd, chris, made what? 69 water rescue, but they were not able to save the two people who died here in the home right behind me. just to give you a little

background they were in the basement, a mother and son. the water came in so quickly they were just unable to get out in enough time. and you heard the anger there. there's a lot of sadness in this community, a tight-knit community. as you said this is a neighborhood that has flooded many times in the past. they've all seen it flood many times in the past. but they complained to the city over and over. they said this is a situation that needs to be addressed or something tragic is going to happen. that's why there's so much frustration. that's in part why there's so much anger here because they warned the city over and over again, chris, that something like this could happen. and now it has happened. that woman who you spoke to, i spoke to her as well. those two who died lived right across the trstreet from her. she described the woman and her husband being very close, and they walked down the street hand in hand. and it affects them even more

when it feels as though it's something that could have been avoided had more people been listening. look, chris, this is a problem they say still has not been fixed and the storms they're going to keep coming. >> i see the crews are behind you. but have jow seen anymore more heavy equipment come into the area yet? >> reporter: no, not yet. basically what you're looking at right now out here is cleanup, broom, vacuums, pumping equipment to get the mud and everything out of these homes. i mean, they're going to need more help in terms of getting equipment out here to help them cleanup. but it's not just here. that's in a lot of neighborhoods throughout new york city. but in term of heavy equipment, not that. what they really need out here are folks involved in planning and can figure out why this is an area that keeps flooding and what they can do about it. >> jason, appreciate you being there. be well. now we're going to turn to a now less than 30 miles south of

philadelphia. it's mullica hills, new jersey. a monster tornado touched down there, flattened dozens of homes through the night. paula newton is on the ground. i mean, you just don't hear tornado and new jersey. >> reporter: no, and chris, you know what they said here. this is not oklahoma. this is not tornado alley. this is new jersey, and they are absolutely staggered by what happened here a little bit more than 24 hours ago. chris, you and i can picture this. you're at home you've either finished your meal or about to have your meal. the people like the thomas', their home behind me destroyed. when they were in the basement the debris from their home was still raining down on them in the basement. you had said earlier the governor of new jersey saying, look, 23 tragic deaths, most of them people trapped in their vehicles. people here know if it wasn't

for those three minutes of warning they got from the time they saw it on the cellphone to the time they got in the basement they would not be as frpt today. today they are concerned thankfully about things that are stressful. these are their dream homes, their family homes, but they know how fortunate they are. here's the thing, though, chris. these are families tonight who tonight would have been sharing a meal or drink or outside on a beautiful summer night. and yet now what are they thinking? they're thinking we're on the front line of climate change. they now see this a clear a present danger. they told me quite honestly we don't know yet if we're even going to rebuild. what they saw here to see that funnel cloud through their windows and understand they had only moments to escape what really could have been devastating for their families, it's really been a shock to them, and they're kind of just reeling even though throughout

this entire state of new jersey we saw it to the north, all of that incredible water turned on like a faucet. and out here yeah they had rain and wind, but then those funnel clouds ripped right through the neighborhood. and it's not like they're not trying to come to terms with it here, especially when they feel they didn't have much warning. yes they've had strong winds before. it rolls around some patio furniture, throws up some debris, but nothing like this. and they're really trying to figure out what to do next and if it's worth it to really rebuild when a lot of these homes right now, really there's no coming back from it. you just have to start from scratch. >> after something like that you have dark thoughts and understandably so. and nothing destroys like a tornado. appreciate the coverage. now let's go to miguel marquez. he's in the riverside town of

new brunswick, new jersey, less than hour outside new york city. what's the situation with the water there now? >> reporter: yeah, we're on the river where the tide is now waning, heading out to the ocean. the water is going with it. we were with you an hour ago. it was about 2 inches down. this is on top of a wall here near route 18 or memorial parkway. now it's 6, 7 inches down. so it's starting to drain quite quickly as that tide goes out. you can see how much more water to go here and through very broad swaths of new jersey as well. and it's not only the water. there's tons of debris in this water as well that as it recedes it's along the road so they're going to have to cleanup all of that to get to it. they're still in the midst of an emergency here. there are 23 confirmed dead at this point. there may be many more. they believe there are many, many people still missing. they're not sure if that's just the confusion of everything they're dealing with right now or whether or not there are people missing, but there are a

lot of crews out there, rescue crews getting into neighborhood, getting into areas, getting into cars like you see here to try to figure out if there is anybody in there, if there are any other people who need help that they can help out. but it is a long, intense difficult time they're dealing with here in new jersey. >> it's just starting. it's a battle against the clock because the longer that water sits it's not just rain, it's not just saltwater that pushed in or brackish water, it's sewage. thank you for being there. stay safe you and the team, appreciate you. there have been thousands of water rescues in this event especially in pennsylvania. the crews are having to go house to house. and a lot of people are in there. you've got to hope they hear you or you've got to find a way in. it's very difficult. it takes a lot of time and it's exhausting. we're going to take you to one

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i want to turn now to pennsylvania. water rescues were estimated to be in the thousands. that's right, thousands. severe flooding. officials there are still urging people living near the delaware river to exercise extreme caution. waters are still rising. the river has yet to crest. this is not over there.

one of the affected areas is bucks county near philadelphia. their commission chair is diane ellis marseglia, and she joins us now. >> thanks for having me, chris. >> what is the situation? >> we are cresting right now so we're holding our collective breath. >> and what does that mean that it's cresting in terms of the impact in the communities and what you're trying to do to help? >> well, this is when the water will be at its highest, and so any water we could be inundated. so anybody who's already got water could end up with more water. people who haven't left their homes but were cautioned to do so, we're hoping that they're leaving now or they left. >> is this story same where you are, that we're hearing from other officials, which is that, look, you knew it was coming. you knew there was going to be water but not this much water this fast? >> that's absolutely right.

i really thought we'll be able to handle this, but no one expects 10 inches in some areas. there were several tornados i believe, and that just put it over the top. >> are the people who are in the areas where it is cresting now able to be communicated with and accessed or able to get out? >> you know, we've been maintaining contact. most people are left and are in a safe place. i'm hoping that there is nobody still in those areas. we've sent out repeated warnings to get them to go to a different ground, stay with family or friends, or we'll provide them with shelter. >> bucks county 911 center logged 5,300 calls which is more than quadruple the more than 1,600 calls a day. is it true that the rescues are in the volumes of the thousands and that they're still ongoing? >> i think that's for the entire delaware valley. they're still going on and we're

still out there. we had 4,400 water rescues and emergency calls that could have involved water in a car, deep water in a basement, things like that. but that is a lot of calls for us to takeover all, trying to get enough operators to answer the phone and then calls keep coming like that. that's exhausting work. >> absolutely. that's why we love our first responders. thank you so much for doing the job. you know how to get us if there's word that has to get out and we can help. >> thank you. take care. another important story, you can't forget about the americans that just aren't trapped in homes here from flooding, imagine being trapped overseas along with our afghan allies. what is your state department doing to get them out? we're hearing dramatic new stories of what some afghan women and girls are doing to escape the taliban. we're going to bring in two better minds who understand the obstacles but also the realities. next. ♪ yeah, it's time for grilled cheese. ♪ ♪ after we make grilled cheese, ♪ ♪ then we're eating grilled cheese. ♪

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the ngo digital dunkirk veteran types that the state department is thwarting their efforts, does that make sense to you? >> well, i doubt they're thwarting the efforts, but they probably could be doing more to facilitate these private organizations. the burden is really on the private organizations to get the charter flights, to identify third countries for the refugees to go to. so while the state department has done a good job with the processing of the paperwork, they're literally processing thousands of special immigrant visas, other categories of refugees. they need to do a better job on helping with the operational part of this. because these private organizations need landing rights. they need to have assurances provided to the transit

countries. the transit countries look to the u.s. government to make sure the refugees are moving onto third countries. and once the refugees get to the third countries it could take a year before their paperwork is processed. so we really do need the state department to be part of this process to work with the private organizations. and my understanding is they're trying to get a system in place, but they're literally building the aircraft while they're flying. and so hopefully they will get that process down and be able to help these private organizations who are doing so much to help our afghan allies. >> these guys and women are angels, phil. they're doing, frankly, what the state department should have been doing and logistically they've been ahead of u.s. government in terms of how to get them out. and their concern is they hear to lisa's point of course you've got to figure it out.

this is all ad hoc. we don't have to time. and the idea be patient, be patient. there are people going to be getting chased by barbarians with machetes is their concern. >> yeah, but i guess i have a slightly different perspective. i've crossed paths with diplomats and people who have friends in afghanistan who said they've contacted the state department. so put yourselves in the shoes of the state department. hundreds of thousands of americans saying i've got a friend and i want to get my friend out, i've got a logistical way to get that friend out. you've got to certify who's calling in, certify who they're representing in afghanistan. how do you certify the person who's calling you has a safe route out they've cleared would the taliban? i don't think this has worked well. for example, the first three, four, five days we lost thousands of people we should have gotten out.

it's not that easy, chris. >> i get it's not that easy, but you also don't want to make it harder than you have to. and for the most part they're talking about americans and people who have siv applications and things that can be reviewed. and their offerings are former intel people. this is workable, isn't it? >> yes. and i think if the state department gets a process in place and doesn't put the full burden on the private organizations then you're going to have a more organized process. these are, you know, diplomatic issues a lot of times when you're negotiating landing rights, when you're talking about people moving onto third countries. so i think we want the state department to be largely in control of the process rather

than each individual organization figuring it out as they go. there's also going to be the funding issue. as i was saying these people are going to have to go to countries, maybe wait for a year with their own grievances. >> jen psaki spoke about this, lisa. let me have you and phil listen to what she said, the press secretary. >> there's also a question they're active and there continue to be active isis-k threats. we know isis-k has a keen interest in aviation targets and our person on the ground in our military bases, and these are among the risks that we take into account. >> how much does that slow it down, phil? >> that doesn't work for me. look, there's -- isis-k would not be thing i'd be worried about, chris. we left a couple of days ago.

people who were in places like the airport, air-traffic control. i think the most likely scenario is airways that's a place we setup our diplomats and a place has close relationship with the taliban will move in -- they already have moved in to try to open the airport. i don't necessarily see this just as a security issue. isis-k is not what i'm thinking about. i'm thinking about ato get a darn aircraft in there that's functional, that has pilots that are functional and support with air-traffic control? >> how much time do you think people, phil, have on the ground before the taliban starts seeing them as scouts? >> two categories of people. we tend to say the united states has responsibility for siv special immigrant visas and americans. if i'm looking at this through the taliban's eyes that's a

vastly different group of people. the americans are very few. you have a responsibility especially i think if you want to get money, food, fuel et cetera from the americans and the international community to support americans getting out. but if you're the taliban looking at afghans your first questions are why are they leaving, why aren't they supporting the reconstruction of afghanistan, and they're criminals. they supported the americans, we want to talk to them about who helped the americans. those afghans are a source of intelligence, and i think a lot of those people -- i don't want to get too deep into it. i think they're in deep trouble, deep trouble. not the americans but the afghans. >> and lisa, what do you do if you start to see the scene of that kind of barbarism, what do you do? >> i think the afghans that are in most danger, of course, are those who work for the military, the security forces. and these are people who have a lot of them have burned their documents. they don't want any evidence that they had worked with the afghan military. so they're very special case.

but others, you know, women activists, human rights leaders, prominent journalists, these people also are in a certain amount of danger. but, you know, i think phil was right that they've got to get the airport up and running again. but also people are going out of airport at mazari sharif in northern afghanistan. people are trying to get out any way they can. >> right. >> and it is a melee right now, but for now the taliban has committed that they would allow people to leave if they have proper documentation, onward destination. they have stated they would allow this. and you have 100 countries who have signed a statement saying that they will continue to

provide travel documents for their afghan allies to get out of the country, so we just need to keep the pressure on the state department, keep working with these private organizations and making this happen because there's a lot of people that still need to get out. >> right now we know about at least one being kept from getting out by the state department. phil, last word on this. remind me why do you have any measure of confidence that the taliban would do anything in terms of conventional thinking of an operative government when this is the same group that we went in there to wipeout because of how they are? >> i don't. i just don't see it. i'm a realest. i don't see any other option. if you want to get americans to the airport how else are they going to get there besides the

taliban? i don't know how to do it without working through them. i don't trust them but no other option. >> thank you both. i appreciate you. >> let's turn to the realtime situation in kabul. one of the very few western journalists still there joins us again tonight. he's going to update us on what is it like. we want to know what the urgency is to have to get out? what is the taliban doing on the streets in realtime? next. ♪ music playing. ♪ there's an america we build ♪ ♪ and one we explore

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there was never any question that the taliban would do bad things especially to women and girls. and sure enough there are reports that women and girls are being forced into marriage or traveling with men pretending to be their husbands. why? because they got to get away from the taliban. this is the desperation that is fostered by what could be a

worse fate if they stay. that's what u.s. officials who are processing afghan refugees say they are seeing. that's the fear of what life under the taliban will mean for women and girls. since the u.s. pulled out we've not had a bunch of reporting from the ground inside afghanistan. one reporter who's still there is -- he's working for pbs' front line. he's working on a documentary for front line that airs october 12th, and it's going to be covering everything happening on the ground now. it's good to see you and good to see you safe. >> thank you so much. thanks a lot. >> so we hear people saying, hey, got to trust the taliban. you know, they want the money. they want to be taken seriously. they will work with the other governments to let people go. what are you seeing? >> well, it's different basically. for instance, first of all, the

taliban become a little stricter than before, than the last ten days. for instance now we cannot -- i met a cup of female, they were running away from another province. one was 17 years old and another one was 21 years old. and i said why did you leave -- left your province, they said we heard the taliban are going to get married and we just run away because we are scared. so far we didn't see anything -- like they didn't come to me saying yes the taliban want to get married to me and i ran away. but i hear here and there, and yes, they become a little bit rude or i can say harsh towards the females. every day i walk around kabul for a couple of hours, do work here and there. on another day, for instance, i

went to one of the embassies. i went to get a visa, and my female colleague was with me. and the taliban literally looked at her saying put your phone down. she was basically on the phone. put your phone down, otherwise i will shoot you. this i was really witnessing, and i told her please don't do anything, don't call, just put your phone on your back. th when i asked a taliban spokesman what's happening, they say you should remember still an uncertain situation. the people who are in the middle and lower end they don't know how to behave in the city, how to deal with the people so allow us some times. so we don't know for how long but this is actually what's going on. >> in terms of the people who are left behind do you hear or see any indications that the taliban will start to look for

people who are afghans who worked with the americans? >> one of the activist women who i've been touch with all the time, i met her the other day and she received a call from one of the provinces in the north. and suddenly she put the phone on loudspeaker and her husband was working in the government, and she said they would come to me soon because they started from the beginning of the road and i don't know what will happen. so because she was an activist she was begging for help. and she said i'm trapped in kabul, i cannot do anything. and she was giving everything. she say they come and a bunch of taliban they surrounded the entire road and they're looking house to house searching for the people who were working for the

government. these things i think hear -- as i said before i never seen anyone but, yes, i came across some female journalists or some activists. they say they're looking house to house. >> the work is going to be so meaningful. it always has been, but what happens there now very few eyes are going to see what yours will. so we look forward to your documentary work, and please stay safe. >> thank you. thanks a lot. back here at home, the supreme court has chosen not to block -- some of the reporting says the supreme court upheld the texas law. that's not accurate. what they did was they refused to review it yet. okay? now, they could have. you could argue that it's not right yet, that nobody has been hurt by the law yet. now, the question will be what happens next? the white house is vowing a full on fight to protect roe v. wade. what can they do?

we're going to meet somebody whose group is offering women a way around the restrictions. what is the way around? is it legal? is it worth it anyway? next.

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president biden is stepping up efforts to protect abortion rights, really reproductive rights. there's a difference. in the wake of the supreme court's refusal to block texas' new law biden is launching what he calls a whole of government effort to respond to this near total ban on abortions. remember at six weeks when cardiac activity is usually detected many women don't even know they're pregnant.

the law also allows anybody, any joe smoe, in fact you want to hear an ugly example? somebody could rape a female, the female after six weeks, sue under the law, and get a bounty of $10,000. can the uber driver who takes them there, someone who pays for the gas, who helps with travel, the person or the clinic that does the procedure. my next guest works with an organization that does just that. she is the co-executive director of fund texas choice. they keep using the word, anna -- and thank you for joining us -- "pernicious," that this law was crafted to be

sneaky. do you agree? >> yeah, i do agree it was sneaky. if you were following the texas legislature earlier this year, we all knew it was coming, we knew this would be impact. we knew this was going to be happen. >> heartbeat is a play, right? they want to say heartbeat because it makes it sounds like it's a person at six weeks, but the thing is the size of a kidney bean. but allowing people to sue and therefore enforce the law as kind of a civil arrest kind of situation, what do you make of that? >> it's supposed to be the chilling effect, right? it's supposed to be the harassment. the cruelty is the point, right? to harass us to no end so we can't do the work because we'll get tired, exhausted. that's the point of this law, to

continue to bully and harass until we don't do it anymore. >> how can you get around it, anna? >> the law is so vague. there can be bad things about that. one of the good things is it doesn't say anything about us helping clients get out of state. we truly believe, after talking to lawyers, people who have read this law over and over, policy analysts and so forth, that we aren't violating the law by helping our clients get out of state to get an abortion. everyone is asking do you think you'll be sued. we probably will, but organizations like fund texas choice and other grassroots organizations are doing the work because there is no other choice, either we exist and follow the mission or we don't and create even more barriers for pregnant folks. >> what percentage of pregnant

folks that you deal with do you think this law will affect? >> with fund texas choice, nearly all of them. when you look at the clients we serve, almost every client is beyond eight weeks. >> and how many of them don't even know they're pregnant until they're beyond six weeks? >> almost every one of them. we have a handful of clients that know they're pregnant before six weeks. but that doesn't -- it doesn't really matter, right? if you find out you're pregnant or you assume you're pregnant, by the time you might be able to get into a clinic could be right at that mark. we saw the real impact of that just yesterday. we had a client who went to her clinic appointment on august 31, had a sonogram, because texas requires you to get a sonogram and wait 24 hours before getting an abortion. she went back to the clinic on september 1 and they did a sonogram again. they measured embryonic cardiac activity and told her she was no

longer eligible to get an abortion because sb 8 had gone into effect. so these are two restrictive laws working hand in hand to stop folks from accessing abortion. >> i want your take on this. the game plan has always been here, talk the talk but don't walk the walk when it comes to restricting reproductive rights because it fires up the far right but they never did it because they're so unpopular as laws overall. do you think there's a chance that women when they realize that their rights have been taken from them, whether or not they want to have exercise or not of that right, do you think there will be a political backlash from this? >> i do think so. i think we can see it from not just pregnant folks, from everyone across the nation already. folks that are donating, folks that are volunteering, folks who have said to us and others we understand there's a possibility of us getting sued but we're willing to fight, we'll do whatever we can, weapon help folks get out of texas, we'll

help fight in texas. i think there will be huge political backlash. numbers say it. less than a third of texans want more restrictions on abortion. and it still happened. i think the politicians aren't listening to their constituents. they're just doing what they want to do. >> anna rupani, thank you very much for your perspective, we appreciate you. we'll be right back. here. and here. which is why the scientific expertise that helps operating rooms stay clean is now helping the places you go every day too. seek a commitment to clean. look for the ecolab science certified seal. (man) my ex is dating a pisces. so i'm like, 'screw it. let's talk manifesting.

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i know a lot of people are struggling. if you are able to, i hope you enjoy the labor day weekend. i'll be off until the other side of it. so i thank you very much for watching. this is a time, with all this hardship, that hopefully we tap into our idea of common cause and collective will. so many of you have reached out to represent organizations that are helping overseas in afghanistan, that want to help

with the flooding. that means something. we're not just our division. we're not just democrat and republican, left and right, all these binary things that allow for an "us" and "them." they're a huge dose of "we" to tap into. remember those who will be in a hard way. don lemon tonight with the upgrade, laura coates, right now. >> chris, you're so right, not only are we all in together, fundamentally, until it happens to you, right, as they say, but for the grace of god so i in so many instances, what we're seeing in places where you are right now and all across the country, i mean, it's hard to watch, but we can do more. >> amen, amen, i say. when i was driving home last night, being driven home because i'm soft, we kept stopping in queens and every car i saw with someone in it, there was a neighbor from that area or there was another driver out and either pushing the car, speaking to the person inside, helpin