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calls himself the qanon shaman. he obviously went viral for wearing a horned bearskin outfit during the assault on the capitol. neither the records nor his attorney indicate which of the charges he's expected to plead guilty to. he was charged with six crimes including felonies for civil disorder and obstructing congressional proceedings. his lawyers wanted him released from jail, where he's been held since his arrest in january. back in march the judge in the case said he found, quote, none of his many attempts to manipulate the evidence and minimize the seriousness of his actions persuasive. as of earlier this week the government has secured 50 guilty pleas in the insurrection. 600 have been charged in federal court. the news continues right now. let's hand it over to chris for "cuomo prime time." >> appreciate you, coop. i am chris cuomo and welcome to "prime time." tonight we're going to show you the unimaginable scenarios that are still unfolding all across new york, new jersey, pennsylvania, delaware, maryland, connecticut and virginia. search and rescue missions are going to go on through the night. there is a lot that is still not
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known. once again, though, here's what we do know. the storm that followed the one that we were all worried about hit harder than expected. of course we were all waiting for henri in the northeast, right? and it barely came in any real way. and then a lot of people apparently slept on ida, making its way to the northeast, and it drowned us. close to 50 dead. still counting. still early numbers. it's in the northeast and mid-atlantic states. the question becomes why? too much, too soon. so much rain. record rainfall in many places in a compressed period of just a few hours. for example, in new york city a record three inches of rain in one hour. how much is that? the previous record, which stood for 100 years, was just over an inch. and this record left wreckage. it was about this time last
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night that the sky started really unleashing its fury, spawning at least eight tornadoes, dumping that rain, triggering flash floods. places like new york city that never had a flash flood emergency alert issued ever until now. almost the entire subway system knocked out at one point. came back different ways. people got stranded. got back on. other people got stranded on platforms and trains. some overnight. roads, railroads, stadiums, homes, completely underwater. take a look at this. this is a yankees minor league affiliate stadium in bridgewater, new jersey. it's almost entirely submerged. the governor there has just requested a major disaster declaration from president biden. we'll see what happens. we've been watching rescue teams go house to house in inflatable boats all day. there are a lot of areas that have not been accessed. and still water rescues estimated to be in the thousands. once again first responders are stepping up everywhere needed. but entire towns are underwater.
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you can see how the homes are destroyed and what they're dealing with there. you can't see in that water. it makes everything harder. last night i stopped several times. it took hours and hours to get home. but in queens everything was flooded. and there were cars stuck. and every time i stopped i saw neighbors, i saw other drivers getting out of their cars and helping people who were in distress. every time. people stepped up. and it likely saved lives. but we've got a long way to go just until we know how much damage ida did here. and remember, the real ground zero from ida was when it was a hurricane down south. louisiana specifically is hurting. nearly a million are still without power there in scorching temperatures. we're told power could be out as long as a month. imagine that. 8 s. 80, 90 degrees. 80%, 90% humidity.
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no ac. no toilet. no water. no electricity for weeks. rescue crews haven't even begun the job. they're not even able to get to some of the hardest-hit areas. so we really have no idea who's trapped, who's succumbed, who needs urgent help. we don't know yet. that story will evolve over at least the next seven to ten days. president biden using the disasters to push congress on his plan to revitalize our nation's infrastructure, remind americans of the dire consequences of the climate crisis. >> the past few days of hurricane ida and the wildfires in the west and the unprecedented flash floods in new york and new jersey is yet another reminder that these extreme storms and the climate crisis are here. we need to be better prepared. we need to act.
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>> the people recognize their eyes about climate crisis, a lot of you are the same people who rolled your eyes at the vaccine, who rolled your eyes at the pandemic. maybe it's time to straighten your eyes out and start seeing what's right in front of you. let's go live now to the front lines of this latest disaster. we've got pete muntean. he's in philly. and we have miguel marquez in new brunswick, new jersey. let's begin with miguel. dark there now. but what's the situation? >> i want to show you where i'm standing. this is a wall i'm standing on top of. and this has only become -- we've been been able to get out of here in the last 10, 15 minutes or so. i can show you how far this has come down. in about ten minutes it's come down two inches. so inch by inch things are getting a little better here in new brunswick. this is route 18, the memorial parkway here in new brunswick. there is a lot of debris still out there. still a lot of water out there. the tide is going out and it's taking that water with it. it's really starting to drain quite quickly now.
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but look, new jersey like many places is really hurting. 23 new jerseyans lost their lives. there may be more out there. lots and lots of people are also missing. that may just be confusion from all of this. but there may be other people they are looking for. we've seen emergency crews moving around this area and throughout new jersey looking for others who may be trapped, may be in cars like this, may be in homes, still looking. one problem that they had here is that they had both the flash floods and tornadoes at the same time. so as those tornado warnings came in, people went to their basements and in some cases may have been trapped in the basements as that water started to come in. in one place four people were killed in garden apartments when they flooded. so it was that sort of just massive storm with tornadoes. i mean, tornadoes in new jersey. unheard of. that sort of stuff that just
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happened. it caught everybody off guard. and still, we are waiting. the draining of these roadways is beginning but it's going to take a long time for not only this water to go but all of the debris with it. before life starts to even begin to feel like normal again here in new brunswick and across large areas of new jersey. chris. >> as you know, in these kinds of situations it happens in no time and then it takes a lot of time to deal with what just happened. miguel, stay safe, you and the team, and thank you. let's go to pete muntean now in philadelphia. pete, thank you very much. again, you've got a big water event there. and again, it was a community that wasn't ready for this amount of strain in this amount of time. >> you've heard the term 100-year flood, chris. they're calling it a once in every 500-year flood here in philadelphia. which is really not out of the woods yet. you can see one of the most dramatic images of the day behind me. this is the vine street
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expressway. which is really looking more like venice than philadelphia right now. the water has been rising here all day. in fact, it's come down actually a little bit. some kayakers have been out here and they've just come back and he this tell me they were able to put their oars completely in the water. so it is pretty deep out there. it's about halfway between the bottom of the vine street expressway and the bottom of the 21st street overpass there. things are improving a bit here just because of this massive pumping operation taking place. but this only scratches the surface of the amount of flooding in the philadelphia region. the schuylkill river, right through philadelphia, crested at about 17 feet early this morning. it has come down some. the waters are receding a little bit. but the national weather service says the river will not be below flood stage until sometime after midnight, which is why the flood warning here in philadelphia persists until 7:00 a.m. tomorrow morning. some of the most serious flooding in neighboring montgomery county. the town of bridgeport, where one person died because of the rising floodwaters there. governor tom wolf says there
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were 500 calls for water rescues in montgomery county alone last night. beyond the serious mortal toll here a really big monetary toll as well. millions, tens of millions, maybe hundreds of millions just to clean this up. no official estimate just yet. also, the cost of what it will be to beef up this infrastructure, something called climate resilience. two words you're going to hear a lot of in the coming days, chris. >> even bridges like that. sure, the water is below it, but that's so much strain on the concrete and the formation of it. and i know you know this, pete, but those kayakers, you can pretend it's a river, but that ain't clean water and people should be safe -- >> reporter: it is not. it is not the best idea to be out here, chris. >> that's storm sewage. it's runoff from all different kinds of septic situations. so pete, stay safe. and thank you. let us know what we need to know for the rest. we'll be on two hours tonight. i want to talk to an official from one of the hardest-hit
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areas in new york. saw as much as 14 feet of water. the place is called mamaroneck and it sits along the coastal waters of the long island sound. their mayor is tom murphy and he joins us now. mr. mayor, do i have you? >> yes, sir, you do. thank you for having me on, chris. >> thank you for taking the time. know you have very pressing matters. what can you tell us about what made this different? >> well, chris, we've been through a lot of floods in the village of of mamaroneck, but this one was stronger in intensity and larger in extent. the usual places flooded but they flooded at a higher level than they ever flooded before and areas that never got water before, homes where basements never got wet were now full of water. the rain came down sometimes at a pace of about three inches per hour. i'd never seen it rain that hard before, and we've been through a lot of storms up here. but our police, our ems, fire,
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dpw, parks workers, all our municipal employees have all pitched in. and with the help of god we have not had a fatality but we've had over 100 water rescues. we have over 1,000 people displaced. either with friends or in a red cross shelter. and the red cross has been amazing. i can't thank them enough for what they've done for the people of this community. >> we heard reported there had been 150 people rescued so far. obviously you've got to check all the areas, see who else is trapped. it's very difficult with communications. let me ask you something, mr. mayor. and obviously please believe this is said with zero judgment. was there something about this that didn't match what was exp expected? obviously everybody was take binn surprise. but from your perspective up there what was it about this that was not expected? >> i think it was just the intensity of the rain over such a short period.
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we had a big stormy think it was last week. so the ground was saturated. and the rivers were still high. mamaroneck has two rivers that float through, the sheldrick and mamaroneck river. and there's a confluence at columbus park where they both meet and that is usually the area where the trouble starts. and once it overtops the banks of the river there it's a very low-lying area. and that area floods really quickly. and of course unfortunately that is the area where the people are less economically able to recover. less resilience. that seems to be the way it always happens in this world, isn't it? the people who have the most -- the least lose the most. and we're working really hard to help them recover and i noticed the community's going to pitch in. i would say what was different yesterday is just the incredible
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intensity of the rain and the saturation of the ground. >> too much too soon. so we'll do this, mr. mayor. as you get a sense of what's needed in that community, feel free. you have an open line to me. let me know what it is. i'll put it out on social media. if the need is great enough that it warrants coverage, we'll do it again on the show. but let me know what you guys need. and i wish you well. >> thank you. just one thing we do need, we need the federal government to enact the army corps of engineer plan that's been promised in this community for over 15 years. we were very close to having it enacted under the trump administration. at the last minute they pulled the rug out from under us. i'm hoping president biden and our federal elected officials can get the ball over the goal line for us because the people of this community really deserve that and they're entitled to it. >> let it be heard, let if be done. mayor tom murphy, thank you very much. >> thank you, sir. ha have a good evening. >> by our weather team's estimate if you average out the
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rain totals just in new york city we've got 35 billion gallons of water. now, the key part, in five hours. see, a lot of places can tolerate things over time. but if you mix saturated ground, because we've had so much rain. that much rain in a short amount of time, that winds up being the real powerful brew. you're looking at queens. this is where i was last night. and bus riders stood on top of their seats as the water rose inside the bus. and the driver kept his cool and got them through. i've got a queens family here who lost a lot last night. they're scared about what tonight could bring and what's tomorrow and what's next. they weren't ready for anything like this. how could they be? their story next. odorant to the test with nelson, a volunteer that puts care into everything he does. it really protects my skin. it's comfortable and lasts a long time.
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they're in queens, new york. i know their area hollis well. it is not set up for this kind of flooding. it doesn't see this, to have water that practically swallowed cars and in just an hour or so. this is the inside of their home we were showing you before. it's just horrible. and look, thank god they're here. but losing everything you have, look at this. the money, the time, the help that it takes. just to clean it out let alone rebuild. however, she's about to tell you that she's one of the lucky ones because two of her neighbors who lived across the street, they were taken in this storm. and it's a very tight-knit community. she joins us now. like i said, with her husband, sahadio. thank you both for joining us right now. i know things are very difficult. where have you gotten in terms of kind of dealing with what to do next, amrita?
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>> thank you, chris, first of all, for having us. we appreciate it very much. we are at a loss. the word is loss. we don't know -- for the first time i don't know where to begin. i've known where to start in the past. but now the story has changed forever. we've lost a son. we've lost a sister. this is -- i cannot comprehend -- the emotions here, i can speak for everyone, there is only sadness. and it's just overwhelming. so where we are is that we have to start from scratch as we're mourning. we have to see how we can move on in the most graceful way here. because if you see the situation here it's very unsafe, very
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unlivable. death is upon us. this is how i see it. so we would like to see the promises made today by the governor, the mayor, the senators, all the city agencies to be fulfilled immediately. as was said, president biden has declared a state of emergency here and we need immediate help, which we have not seen except for local officials coming out and rendering some assistance with some dumpsters. that is all we have seen. community just bringing us food, stuff to clean up. that's all we have seen from new york city agencies. nothing from them at this point. we have to clean up. there is mud. there is soil of everything, on every kind of -- in every which way you can think of. i cannot describe it, chris, to
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you. the pictures speak for themselves. it is too overwhelming. we need manpower. everyone is exhausted and overwhelmed. like i said, the emotions are running really, really high. we're weary and tired. no one has slept since yesterday. no one has eaten. we do not have gas. we do not have kitchens. we do not have hot water. the list just goes on. we want this federal aid to come to us now. tomorrow can't come fast enough. it should have been here today. something somehow. but we can wait for tomorrow just hoping that it gets here. >> when you think about how you made it through last night, when did you realize how extreme the situation was? >> chris, i pay very keen attention to the weather. hollis is a beautiful place, but it's mayhem when it starts to
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flood. and i pay a lot of attention to weather. i alert all my neighbors. and this is exactly what i did. yesterday was one of my days for working from home. and i was paying very keen attention to ida, and i saw what ida was doing in slamming all these other states. and as i was following it it i saw how close it was going to get to new jersey and new york and i started alerting my neighbors. i literally leave my house because i suffer from panic attacks. i was once trapped in the house already. and i suffer -- i suffer from serious panic attacks when the water starts to fill up. so i started to pack my bag. i alerted my daughter and my husband, who was still at work, that we're going to have to leave the house. i normally leave my husband stays back to brace it because we all come out -- the community comes out. but i have been so damaged, traumatized that i can't handle it. i go up the block to my sister-in-law, who's standing right here -- or my brother-in-law or my neighbor
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just down the block because i can see from there when the water starts to rise. so as i left, the rain started to pour and i started calling my husband and neighbors and tell them they have to leave. before he could have gotten out of the house the entire -- there was like 12 feet of water already. all the cars were submerged. in a matter of minutes. and this is when everything started to unfold. i was face-timing with everyone while i was up the block here. they're showing me how the water is coming up and it's not going because as everyone know the rain just kept falling. harder and harder and harder. and that's when i was alerted we were getting scuba divers in and con-ed and emergency management. thank god to all the nypd that was here to supervise. there was chaos here. it was chaos. it was like a war zone. it still looks like a war zone even though there's been so much cleanup going on. >> let me ask -- amrita, let me
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ask now and bring in your husband. sahadio, where do you go from here? y what do you need right now? are you even able to stay in your own home? >> yes, we can stay in our home but we need some help right now. we need manpower. he with need money. money is the most important thing. he with need to get contractors to come in and clean up, help us clean up, start fixing stuff that is broken in the house. we've been doing this for a while now on our own. we're not getting any financial aids or help from the city. all we're going to do is try to clean up what we can do but we're not going to give it up that easy. this is not the only place that experiences flooding. but we need a lot of help in this neighborhood. and over the years we've been neglected. i came here in 2003. and since 2003 to 2021 we're getting flooding. and nothing is being done.
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we have several projects that were completed in this block but it's not resolving the issue we have. >> yeah, i was saying to people, i grew up in queens. i grew up in holliswood, you know, not far from where you are in hollis. and flooding has always been an issue there and the area's never been set up to deal with a lot of water very quickly. same thing happens with snow sometimes in the wintertime. and yet -- >> yeah, that's correct. >> and yet you guys, as bad as it was, when you think about, amrita, what happened to your neighbors across the street, that frightening prospect and that they're now gone, how do you deal with that emotionally? >> chris, i am so devastated, i can't wrap my head around this. i always thought i would be the one drowning in that house because i have -- i have sounded this alarm so many times, i cannot tell you. i've explained it. i've told the city you need to come out here and see what's really going on. don't come when the water's
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receded so you don't understand it. this is the emotions that i feel right now, i don't even have words to tell you how i feel because i feel that could have been me. that could have been my daughter or my other neighbor's daughter. we're like a family here. this flood has brought us so close together. so this loss is so huge for us. it is extensive. we have been on the streets. nobody has gone into their houses. because we cannot comprehend what is going on here. we just lost a kid and his mother just like that? this is not acceptable. this was not supposed to happen. this is like murder. >> amrita -- >> you know, chris -- >> yes, sir. last word to you. >> yeah. the city has come around so many times. every time there's a flood the city shows up. all the politicians come around with them. and they do a lot of talking. they have all the media with
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them. and when they leave that's the end of the story. nothing happens. absolutely nothing happens here. >> i hear you. that's why i wanted you on tonight -- >> yeah, we have to fend for ourselves, yeah. >> well -- >> we have to fend for ourselves. we have not received a penny from anybody here. >> you have to speak for yourselves and that's what you're doing. >> yeah. >> but you don't have to fend for yourselves. that's why you have government. that's why you have leaders. and this is about them and their job. and i understand your frustration. and that it's not the first time and that now you lost people who you care about and you don't think it was necessary. amrita, i hear you. that's why i wanted you on to make your case. and i'm going to put up the gofundme page for your family. gofundme.com/hollis-flood-fund. okay? i'm also going to put it out on social media. god bless and good luck. thank you. and we will stay in touch to find out how you're doing. okay? >> thank you.
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>> thank you, chris. >> have a good one. >> good night. >> all right. listen, i understand why they feel the way they feel right now. you don't know the neighborhood. it is very tight, ethnic. this happens a lot. not like this. not like this. but if a place was going to get hit hard it would be this place. so what does that mean? you can see what they think about in terms of accountability let's see what happens. we will monitor them. we'll have updates as we will with all these different aspects of the storm. and we'll stay on the breaking news of this disaster. by also want to stay focused on what's happening in a couple of other big fights. a couple of things that are seen as prospective are not, they're now. the supreme court fight over roe v. wade is right now. okay? the supreme court just released an order saying that it would not stand in the way of texas, basically, operatively, practically making reproductive rights unavailable to women when
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it comes to abortion. that's what they just did. and the supreme court didn't stop it. might they stop it in the future? yes. but they didn't stop it now. and that tells you everything. what will women there face now because of what texas did and what the supreme court did not know? and did not do. we're going to talk to a doctor who performance abortions there. what the reality is, what this could mean for people. next.
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about the rights of women in afghanistan. but in america you can worry about what's happening with women's rights right here. the fight over the future of roe v. wade isn't about the future. texas is already feeling the effect. dr. allison gilbert is the medical director at the southwestern women's surgery center. she's also a physician who performs abortions in dallas and knows the situation. doctor, thank you for joining me. the idea of six weeks, heartbeat at six weeks, does that even exist in science? is there a heart at six weeks? >> first, thank you so much for having me on this evening, chris. so that's a great question. at six weeks that's when we can oftentimes detect what we call cardiac activity. while there is most certainly not a fully formed heart at that gestational age, it's more of an electric flicker that you can see on the screen.
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which we refer to cardiac activity rather than a heartbeat, as many of the proponents of this law like to refer to it as the texas heartbeat bill. >> doc, look, we know they call it's heartbeat bill because the heartbeat pulls on your heartstrings, makes you think person. that's what has a heartbeat. how many women in your experience come in and find out they're pregnant and they are close to or more than six weeks pregnant? >> oh, the vast majority. looking back through our records for the last few years in anticipation of this, we've seen that only about 10% to 15% of our patients would actually be eligible for an abortion under this restrictive law. >> now, you had procedures -- i've got to be honest. i don't like describing you as a doctor who does abortions. i'm like putting a target on all of a sudden when it's supposed
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to be just another procedure. i was talking to another doctor today on my radio show, and she was like, listen, you need to be telling people, do you know how many pregnancies we end for medical reasons? do you he no how hard it is on the body? do you know how many pregnancies fail? you're making it sound like it's just an option, like it's contraception, and that's not the reality. do you see that as well? >> i see abortion as health care, as normal health care that is a part of a reproductive person's rights. anyone capable of becoming pregnant should have a right to abortion. and that's how i see it. so in my mind while saying i'm an abortion provider, i'm a doctor who provides abortion, i'm actually quite proud of that label. so you're welcome to call me that. >> i'm saying you do a lot of things. that is one thing that you do. and i understand, absolutely, i'm not saying it's a scarlet letter, i just didn't want to limit you and try to play to
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some faux controversy. the idea of why pregnancies are ended, the concept is, well, you need this law because women just use this like contraception. they don't have to have it, there's nothing wrong with any of these things, all these babies would have been perfect and they just kill them for no good reason. in your experience what comes through these operating rooms in terms of why the abortions are necessary? >> we see patients for a vast, vast list of reasons. that could be anywhere from having other children that they need to care for. it could be someone with medical co-morbidities where the pregnancy itself puts their life at risk. there are some medical conditions that have upwards of a 30% risk of mortality in the setting of continuing a pregnancy. there are patients who are in poverty, who don't have the financial means to continue their pregnancy and choose to
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parent. there are patients who are diagnosed with fetal anomalies, which usually doesn't occur until well into their second trimester. for all of these reasons and many, many more we care for these patients and we see these patients every day. >> so doc, what happens now? >> it's a great question. we are keeping our clinic doors open in any way that we possibly can. we are complying with the restrictive laws that are now in front of us. we knew that this was like liv a reality. we've been planning for this. it's devastating. it is heart-wrenching to have conversations with patients who present to us either unaware of the law or aware of the law. but we're right on the cusp of six weeks and we detect cardiac activity and we have to tell them we can no longer provide them the health care they have the right to. >> dr. gilbert, i appreciate your frankness. i appreciate your experience in this situation. thank you for taking this
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okay. the white house says there are about 100 americans left in afghanistan. i don't flow if that number's right. i don't know where they get it. but that's the number. we do know that they say that a majority of the afghans who worked alongside our military were left behind. now, if you've been watching this show, you know we've been following and one person in particular, sarah, we've been using her for a metaphor of this movement. she's an american. she was an interpreter. her life is in danger every second she's in afghanistan. so far she and so many others can't even get anyone with the state department on the phone. but they've been lucky. sarah has been lucky. she was able to turn to veterans
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who've been putting together what you see online called #digitaldunkirk. they're working stateside with groups like allied extract and folks like my next guest to find ways out of afghanistan for these people. so let's find out about sarah. and also a new question. is the state department trying to stop the work of these veterans who are helping people like sarah? if so why? harvey graham green joins us now. welcome to "prime time" and thank you for what you're doing. >> thank you very much for having me, chris. >> first let's start with sarah. what do you know about her status? >> sarah is safe and her children are safe. we are continuing to do everything that we can as a group to keep it that way. for operational reasons i can't go any deeper as of now, but we are doing everything that we can to keep her and the children safe. and they are currently safe. >> the last thing i want to do is compromise her safety. now, harvey, help me with this.
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and i know this can be sensitive. it's less sensitive for you because you don't have u.s. reservist restrictions on you and fears of the chain of command. but i have heard several accounts now from these ngos and these digital dunkirk types like you that you're doing the logistics, our raising the money, you're getting the people, you're getting them someplace, you're staging to take them out, and then you are being told you can't by some government agency, the department of state, the faa, something else. is that true? >> yeah, you're absolutely correct. the fact that i'm on here tonight speaks to this. one of our u.s. combat veterans was due to come on but due to pressure he's facing from his chain of command he asked me to come on because i'm more impartial. and at this point we are a group. we're linked together by people like dan rogers under his leadership. we're achieving the impossible daily. we're even at a point where we have aircraft available through partner organizations, something
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we couldn't have dreamed of five weeks ago. but the issue at this point is we need somewhere to land this aircraft. and charter flights coming out of afghanistan, it's not a new thing but it is an emerging situation. and we need somewhere to land the aircraft. at this time the state department are not only blocking that but they are also putting into place other restrictions such as placing cease and desist orders on ngos. as it stands, with everything that we've done, with everything that our people on the ground are achieving, doing the impossible every day, the last piece that we need to put in place, the thing that is stopping sarah from coming home is the fact that the state department will not give us anywhere to land our chartered aircraft. >> let me let you hear what the state department said about this today. >> we understand the concern that many are feeling as they try to facilitate charters and other forms of passage out of afghanistan. the fact of the matter now is
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that we do not have personnel on the ground, we do not have air assets in the country, we do not control the airspace, whether over afghanistan or anywhere else in the region. >> does that work for you? >> i mean, the first call-out here, chris, is the fact that if they had fulfilled their promise for the evacuation and got everybody out by august 31st this wouldn't be a conversation we were having. in terms of security, there are plenty of u.s. air fields in the region where these aircraft can land and the passengers can be screened safely, get their first night's sleep without fear, and then come home back where they belong in the u.s. i understand why the security is a concern. flights out of any region which has an active isis presence or any other localized terrorist group, that is a threat we see across this region. but that is not in itself reason
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enough to stop flying american citizens out that we have left -- well, the state department has left in afghanistan. >> have you had any indication that things will change in terms of your ability to get sarah out? >> we've had no indication >> workarounds that have been looked into by our partners, especially landing in third countries, permits have been denied and the source within the state department has told us that is due to pressure being applied by the state department. >> harvey, as i said to everybody i've been working with on the digital dunkirk side. one, it's not like you are just a bunch of nobodies. almost all of you have an aspect of military intelligence work and veterans work, where you understand the processing and you know these people involved so it's not like you are coming at this blind. but you have my number. i will be, always, a text away or a call away. and we are gonna put pressure on
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the state department, starting yesterday. harvey graham green, thank you very much and good luck with your work. >> thank you, chris. thank you for your support. >> absolutely. somebody's got to do it. listen. i am going to go to break on this. um -- but people in the government, i know you're listening. this is one of those situations where, when these situations, not if, go bad and people were waiting and it can be traced back to you not doing something because you don't have the process because it doesn't fit how you usually do things, you will regret it. we'll be right back. delity inco. we look at what you've saved, what you'll need, and help you build a flexible plan for cash flow that lasts, even when you're not working, so you can go from saving... to living. ♪ let's go ♪
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we can't turn away from stories like the killing of ahmaud arbery. you know, you deal with it in the flush and then you move on. so almost two years now, his case is finally going to trial. and now, beyond the men charged in his death, the former-local prosecutor who initially declined to press charges has been indicted, herself. we can't let these cases fall aside. so let's bring in lee merritt, who's representing the arbery family. counselor, thank you for joining us, once again. were you surprised by the indictment? and what does it mean for you in the overall sense of justice? >> i was surprised because it's unprecedent -- precedented. i have never seen a prosecutor, who failed to bring charges who -- who helped actively participate in the coverup of misconduct indicted criminally, themselves. what this means for us, first, is it's signal -- signaling to other prosecutors that if they are not forthcoming with the evidence. if they somehow participate or put their finger on the scale of justice, that they can face
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consequences, themselves. but for the family who you have to know when this first happened, you had wanda on the show many times. that's who they went to. the local elected prosecutors to say who is going to be held accountable? and she was left in the dark for 72 days and so this was a big relief to her because she was as offended by that as she was by the murder of her son. >> also, um, the idea of what do you believe the prosecution will show? >> the prosecution will show -- the question is in regards to the mcmichaels? or regards to jackie johnson? >> jackie johnson, the da. >> okay. with regard to jackie johnson, what was presented to the grand jury was, first, evidence that jackie johnson had a relationship with -- with gregory mcmichael, the -- the father of the shooter, travis mcmichael, that immediately became involved in the case. the first phone call that gregory mcmichael made from the scene of the shooting was to jackie johnson saying i'm in
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trouble, and i need help. and instead of opting out and saying that she had a conflict, she called the subsequent prosecutor, george barnhill, and began to discuss and get his advice on the case before, ultimately, referring the case over to him without disclosing to anyone that she had referenced him for this case. or that he, too, had a conflict concerning gregory mcmichael. and so, the prosecution will show that she violated her oath of office. that ahmaud arbery and his family wasn't given a fair shake at justice from the beginning because she put her thumb on the scale using relationships she had developed over time. >> understood. counselor merritt, thank you very much. we will keep following the situation. >> thank you. >> we'll be right back. okay, imagine this... your mover, rob, he's on the scene and needs a plan with a mobile hotspot. we cut to downtown, your sales rep lisa has to send some files, asap! so basically i can pick the right plan for each employee...
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