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handoff is good. name the movie that i'm playing with there, and i'll send you a hat. you can hit me on twitter and tell me. d. lemon and i are so thrilled that so many of you are checking out the handoff podcast that we just kicked off season two today, and here's the even better news. every episode of the show is now available for free on all podcast platforms, apple podcasts, spotify, wherever you listen or just go to cnn.com/thehandoff. okay? thank you for watching. the big star of the handoff himself, don lemon of "don lemon tonight". >> you've got that right. it's so much fun doing -- look, if you think we go a little bit overboard or we push the boundaries during this television handoff, then you actually need to listen to the podcast. i actually had someone say this is the best one that -- it was very courageous, very brave of how far we went with talking
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about personal issues, things that we're dealing with, and you know, so don't want to give it away, but check it out. >> thankful for my long haul syndrome, i don't even remember the handoff. >> i don't even remember what i said. >> honestly, though, this is honesty. when you meet -- especially when we were in our big studios, the number of people that we would meet on a daily basis -- and aye been doing two hours for, what, five, six, seven years, i forget how long. two hours a night, and i don't mean to be rude. people would say hey, do you remember i was on your show and i would go, oh, yeah, i remember. and then they'd have to remind me, prompt me, oh, now i remember. i was interviewing maybe 20 people a night at one point, and so, you know, there's only so much information that can be held up in this little tiny -- >> you know, i think it's interesting thank god you and i don't really think about what we do what we do. we do it.
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we think about what we say, but we don't think about what it's going to mean that we said it, and i don't know how to feel about so many people coming forward and saying i love listening to you guys. that's nice. but they say you guys are really brave with what you say there. it's sad that they see things that there should be no risk to what we're saying, but in today's climate, you never know what people are going to try to use against you, whether or not it should be weaponized or not. >> but you know how i feel about that, right? you know i'm just like whatever. i say what i want, i have this platform. i'm very -- i respect the platform, i have to tell the truth. but you know, i had this platform for a reason, and so i lean in, and i always tell all my friends you and other people, even on other networks who will ask me -- just lean in, don't worry about the whole cancel culture. everyone makes a mistake. everyone says things that they regret, and so if you say
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something you regret, you apologize and you move on. so i just don't -- i don't believe in that, and i'm going to continue to speak the truth and people love it. i can't believe that they love you so much. it's really unbelievable, and more than anything, they like it when we fight. >> yeah, you make too much of our fighting. >> i like it. >> we have never had -- >> not a real fight. >> a disagreement. >> we disagree about a lot of stuff. >> yeah. >> but i am amazed by this. i've been saying this to don for years, i don't know why people are so moved by something that is so natural. it's like, you know, don could do this podcast with like 20 of his friends. you know, this is the way you guys talk to each other, isn't it? >> it is. >> have we really gotten to the point where you won't talk about the sticky bits with each other anymore. >> the real thing is when people's heads pop off when they see us in public. whoa, wait, you mean it's real? cuomo, where's your boy don lemon. >> i got to tell you, with
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leaning in and speaking the truth, the president of the united states did it tonight, and i'm so glad he did. it is the right thing. it's the right attitude, and that's the way he should be leading on this issue, leaning in on this issue. >> enough is enough. >> enough is enough. enough is enough of this. and i'm going to get to it, tune in to the handoff on television. >> i love you. >> i love you too. >> anywhere you can listen to podcasts you can get it for free. >> don didn't want it to be free. >> i'm cheap. >> i'll see you soon. this is "don lemon tonight." there's been a lot of talk about freedom as a reason or an excuse or opposition for the vaccines and the masks. just remember before you go on to that, people say, oh, it's my liberty. it's whatever, life, yes, liberty, fine. life is first. life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. you need the life part first.
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okay? so today president joe biden announced some mandates that he hopes will free the rest of us from this pandemic and try to move more people to get the vaccine, to do the right thing, including workers at companies with 100 or more employees, federal workers, the contractors and millions of health care workers, okay? the president warning his patients patience with the unvaccinated is wearing thin. and he is frustrated. >> what makes it incredibly more frustrating is we have the tools to combat covid-19, and a distinct minority of americans supported by a distinct minority of elected officials are keeping us from turning the corner. these pandemic politics as i refer to it are making people sick, causing unvaccinated people to die. we cannot allow these actions to stand in the byway of protectin
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the large majority of americans who have done their part. who want to get back to life as normal. >> truer words have never been spoken. do you know who else is frustrated? >> dr. anthony fauci. you know how i know that? because he told anderson this just moments ago. >> i am frustrated, and the reason is we do have the tools to end this. i mean, i've been in situations in public health situations where you didn't have the tools to end something that was devastating people with regard to illness and death. that is very frustrating. it's frustrating in a different way when you have the tools and you have the wherewithal to get to the end game of where you want to be, but you don't implement them. >> the president also clearly outraged by people who refused to do this, to wear masks, to do it on planes, and he is warning that they could be fined up to $3,000 for repeat offenders. >> tonight i'm announcing that the transportation safety
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administration, the tsa, will double the fines on travelers that refuse to mask. if you break the rules, be prepared to pay. and by the way, show some respect. the anger you see on television toward flight attendants and others doing their job is wrong. it's ugly. >> thank you, mr. president. show some respect. we know how much opposition there will be to the new mandates, right? kevin mccarthy, it's kevin mccarthy, calling vaccine mandates un-american. what is so -- all american about willfully misrepresenting the truth about a vaccine that can save lives and co-opting the rhetoric of freedom to oppose common sense measures that could stop the pandemic and saves lives of their own constituents.
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what is, right? life first, then liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. south carolina republican henry mcmaster tweeting that he'll fight the president and democrats to, quotes , the gate of hell. well, one part of that is right about -- anyways, more than 11,000 people have died in his state, and then there is florida governor ron desantis who apparently has decided to stake his political future on his feud with the president over mask mandates in schools, filing an emergency appeal today to prevent districts from ordering masks. more than 34,000 students and 6,300 employees have tested positive for covid-19 throughout the largest school district in florida since the start of school. that is according to a cnn analysis. that as physicians warned doctors not to spread misinformation, the kind of misinformation that's rampant in our politics with mask wars and divisiveness spreading just as
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fast as the virus. >> the american journal of medicine came out with a great article that they had discovered a regimen of medication that when taken together early in covid that you may have heard of it, hydroxychloroquine, ie ivermectin, a z-pak. oh, my goodness, what is it going to be bleach again? light outside the body? come on. ivermectin? ivermectin? you mean the deworming drug often used in livestock? the one with absolutely no evidence it's effective against covid. pure misinformation. why would you prefer to take drugs that doctors say won't help you, instead of getting the vaccine that is safe, effective,
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and free. why would you do it? because of misinformation. that's why. and don't forget this, never forget this. >> i said supposing you bright the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way, and i think you said you're going it test that too. it sounds interesting. right, and then i see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute skps, and is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning because you see it gets in the lungs. >> does a real number on the lungs. the former president was an absolute font of misinformation on covid, even though he himself was vaccinated, although we didn't find out until months later, right? even though the vaccines were developed on his watch. so would it have helped if he had told his supporters loud and clear to get vaccinated?
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cnn's elie reed talked to some folks in missouri about why they don't trust the vaccine. >> i ain't taking your medicine. not from -- i'll take what they give him, but i'm not taking yours. >> he took the vaccine, though. >> he might of, i don't know that. >> i think they give him the regeneron. >> they did give him that, but he did take the vaccine. >> their own, probably. >> i'm not saying he didn't. i don't know that, but that's what pissed me off, and ain't taking it because i'm that bull headed. >> there's all kinds of information out there, and the president actually said on stage i did it for me, and then he got boo' ed, remember? okay. so people won't even do a simple thing like wearing a mask, a simple thing that saves lives. this is where we're at in this country right now, adults, so-called adults mocking a student advocating for masks
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after his grandmother died of covid. >> i'm worried about my family. if i get covid, i'm going to bring it to my family, and i talk to my grandparents a lot. they're higher risk than me, so i don't want to give them covid. this time last year my grandmother who was a former teach at the rutherford county school system died of covid because someone wasn't wearing a mask. this is a very -- this is a very. >> shut up. >> right. shut up, not him, just the people there booing him. so-called adults. maybe in age, but not in maturity, and definitely not in thinking. that's where we are fighting masks in schools even though that's the only way to protect kids too young to get
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vaccinated. >> these are demonic entities and all the school boards of all the united states of america and all of us christians will be sticking together to take them all out. masks don't work. these doctors that sit up here that were sneering at us and looking at us like we're scum bags, they need to go back to [ bleep ] medical school. >> your children and your children's children will be subjugated. they will be asked how many vaccines have you had? have you been a good little nazi? hail fauci. >> what do you even saying to that? i'm trying to imagine what you all's reaction is at home. i mean, if anybody should have been wearing a mask it's that guy screaming that loud. that is where we are in this
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country right now, folks, come on, people. the question is e will any of wt the president said tonight convince people that are getting their misinformation from those politicians and acting out like that? that as the challenges just keep piling up for the biden administration amid outrage over texas's new six-week abortion ban. the justice department is suing the state. the attorney general merrick garland calling it an unprecedented scheme that creates bounty hunters. >> the statute deputizes all private citizens without any showing of personal connection or injury to serve as a bounty hunters. the obvious and expressly acknowledged intention of this statutory scheme is to prevent women from exercising their constitutional rights by thwarting judicial review for as long as possible. >> the texas governor greg
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abbott who in defending the law claimed that he'd eliminate rapists in texas tonight putting out a statement that he is, quote, confident that the courts will uphold and protect that right to life. supreme court justice steven breyer calling the high court's refusal to block the texas law, and i quote here, very, very wrong. >> i thought the last decision you mentioned was very, very, very wrong. i'll add one more very, and i wrote a dissent, and that's the way it works, but it's a procedural matter, and so we'll see what happens in that area when we get a substantive matter in front of us. >> so the d rooj is taking acti where the supreme court would not, setting up a showdown over the law. stay tuned. but the big question tonight is can president biden convince millions of unvaccinated americans to roll up their sleeves? because that's what it's going to take if we ever want to get
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president biden taking on the unvaccinated announcing new rules to try to breakthrough to millions of americans who refuse to get their shots. joining me now is cedric richmond, a senior adviser to president biden and the director of the white house office of public engagement. cedric, good evening. thank you so much for joining us. good to see you. the biden administration isn't requiring proof of vaccinations. that's up to individual agencies and businesses. do you think we can trust people's word? i mean, why not require some proof here? >> well, we're going to leave that to the businesses to decide, and we put the burden on the businesses, if you have 100 or more employees, to get your employees vaccinated or to implement a rigorous testing regime. look, we have 75% of the country
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has at least taken one shot, and what we need is people to just do the responsible thing, care for their neighbors, care for children who can't get vaccinated and take the shot. and that's what we need. this is a race, and we said it from the beginning. this is a race between vaccines -- >> but they're not doing that, cedric, you know they're not doing it. that's why the president had to come out today and do what he did. >> that's exactly right. we're always going to adapt to the environment, and so we see the challenges. we're getting up to 100% vaccinations, so we've put in more requirements, all federal employees. we're also going to include head start, any schools that are federally supported. we're going to use every tool in the tool kit and hopefully people will also use good common sense and judgment, but as far as the things that we can control, we will push people as a mandate to go and get vaccinated. >> this is what the president said today about republican governors who are aiding and
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abetting in the pandemic of the unvaccinated. watch this. >> let me be blunt, my plan also takes on elected officials and states that are undermining you in these life saving actions. right now local school officials are trying to keep children safe in a pandemic while their governor picks a fight with them and even threatens their salaries or their jobs. talk about bullying in schools. if they'll not help, if these governors won't help us beat the pandemic, i'll use my power as president to get them out of the way. >> cedric, we know these governors won't help. they're already slamming the new rules, so what are you going to do about it? >> the one thing i admire about this president is the fact we're always going to put people above politics, and we're going to fight for those who really need our help, and so it's
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unfortunate that we have so many governors that are using vaccinations and mask requirements as a political gain, but our purpose is to save lives, and we will do anything and everything under our control to make sure that we protect our citizens, especially those children who cannot get a vaccination yet, and so we have to do everything we can to make sure adults do it. and those governors who stand in the way, i think it was very clear from the president's tone today is that he will run over them, and it is important. it's not for political purposes. it's to save the lives of american people, and so we won't let one or two individuals stand in the way. we will always err on the side of protecting american people. >> speaking of adults, this is a question that many people don't understand. the postal service isn't included in the vaccine requirement, but they do fall under labor department rule requ requiring vaccination or weekly
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testing. will mail carriers and postal service employees need to get vaccinated? they are in contact with people on a daily basis, a lot of people. >> well, from what i looked at so far, don, it appears that the post office is an independent agency, but to the extent that they would fall under our labor standards if that is the rule, then that's where it's going to fall. we're not playing favorites. we are very clear. we're going to err on the side of protecting our children and our vulnerable population, so we're doing the responsible thing, and so we're not picking winners and losers. if you're required by law to do it, the chips will fall where they may. >> is the white house talking to the postal service trying to push them to get vaccinations, make it a requirement? >> don, all i can tell you is i have not talked to the postal service today. i'm still doing some ida recovery and some other things, so i have not, but the one thing i do feel comfortable saying is
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that if they fall under labor standards, then the rules will apply to them. >> i want to talk now, cedric, about the department of justice suing texas over this new law that bans abortions after six weeks, even in cases of rape and incest. governor greg abbott saying he is confident the courts will uphold the law. how long will this fight last? because time really is an issue here. >> it is. every day that this law is in place, i think it's a travesty of justice. i think it's misguided. i think it's discriminatory, i think it hurts women, and we're going to use everything we can, a and we're happy that the department of justice initiated action. we're going to use the court system to try to fight it. in the meantime we've directed dhhs and our gender policy council to do everything they can to make sure that women have a meaningful right to choose, and that means that they have
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access to ac access to abortion if that's what they choose. we know how serious this is, and it just shows how out of whack and out of touch the republican party is with the country, and the needs and rights of women. >> did you say you were dealing with some ieda issues or covid issues earlier? i want to talk about what's happening. >> i'm dealing with -- we deal with covid, ida, the one thing about this administration, we meet the challenges wherever they are, and so as we will adapt as it happens -- yes, i'm spending a lot of time on ida. >> let's talk about that. you know in louisiana, both of our home states, they're dealing so much -- home state -- devastation there from hurricane ida. we're hearing some insurance companies are agreeing to cover additional living expenses for policy holders who were evacuated ahead of the storm. this is something the president was calling for. what more can you tell us about that? >> well, i can tell you that both all state and usaa decided
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they would cover people whether they were in a mandatory voluntary evacuation because people didn't leave for a vacation. they flee to protect their lives, and we have companies like state farm and i call them by name, that have decided that they're still going to use that loophole or that technicality or fine print to deny coverage. and so people left because it was a storm bigger than katrina. then it knocked out the power over a million people and southern heat, 102, 105 heat advisory and state farm's position is that people could have went home and lived in that house. and my opinion is that the ceos and the leadership at state farm would not stay in a house with damage without power in 105 degree heat, and they should not expect louisiana citizens or mississippi citizens to do that. >> have you reached out to them? >> i'm happy that the president called out insurance companies. >> did you reach out to them? >> i have reached out to them --
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i have reached out it o'tto the and i expect after tonight i'm going to talk to them a lot more tomorrow. >> my dad always was an all state man, all state to gmc and chevy trucks. that's all he bought. so you know, i wish the folks there well, and of course insurance companies should be helping. >> well, i was always a state farm man. i thought they were the good neighbor. and i will tell you that i'm just very disappointed and the amount of calls that i get from people who find themselves in a position of having to replace all the food in their refrigerator, pay for hotel rooms, pay for travel back home and pay for the food. this is not a game. this is real, and the money adds up. if you know the study that 30% of the people in the country are $400 away from not being able to pay their rent, it's $400 to restock a refrigerator, pay hotel rooms of $125, and then you have companies that won't live up to the contract that they signed. i just think it's wrong. i hope that state farm and the other companies will change
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their mind. i would hope that they would, and we're going to work with them as much as we can to try to get that done. >> we haven't had an opportunity to reach out to state farm. we will and get a response from them on this. we appreciate it. i know the folks there, cedric, they're in good hands with you guys. thank you so much. appreciate it. be well. president biden putting the blame for the current covid surge squarely on unvaccinated americans saying that their refusal has cost all of us, but how much of a difference will his new orders make? and adaptive 360 fit. so they can move the way they were born to. pampers cruisers 360 fit
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tonight president biden getting tough with nearly 80 million americans who are eligible for the covid vaccine but have not yet rolled up their sleeves saying their refusal is putting a steep cost on americans who have been vaccinated, and going on to say, quote, our patience is wearing thin. i want to bring in now cnn medical analyst dr. jonathan reiner and matthew doud, the former chief strategist for president george w. bush. matthew is author of " "revelations on the river". president biden addressed the frustration of people who are nearly -- who are already vaccinated, and he had this message for the unvaccinated americans. here it is. >> the vaccine has fda approval.
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over 200 million americans have gotten at least one shot. we've been patient, but our patience is wearing thin, and your refusal has cost all of us, so please, do the right thing, but just don't take it from me. listen to the voices of unvaccinated americans who are lying in hospital beds taking their final breaths saying if only i'd gotten vaccinated. if only. it's a tragedy. >> so look, matthew, he's certainly frustrated. what do you think of what you heard? >> well, i a thousand percent agree with president biden on this. i mean, we're at the point where the unvaccinated are not only hurting themselves, which they are because they end up in hospital or worse, they're hurting other people because they're using -- if they dgo in the hospital, using up space that could be used for other things and other resources that are stretched thin as is.
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they're endangering their neighborhoods and endangering our economy because we're at this point where there's still a fear about what this pandemic could mean. he's a thousand percent right. we're supposed to be a country founded on the idea that we look out for one another and we embrace the common good, the people that criticize joe biden in the midst of this, i think are the exact opposite of that. but at some point the common good from all aspects, health care and our economy and what's happening in the health care system takes precedence over somebody's opinion about whether or not they want to take a vaccine. >> doctor, dr. fauci spoke to anderson and to our dr. gupta earlier, and he was asked, you know, why not just do the vaccine mandate instead of allowing weekly testing as an alternative. here's his answer. >> well, i think the president is, you know, being somewhat moderate in his demand, if you want to call it that, in that there are some people who really don't want to get vaccinated, but they don't want to lose their job. you've got to give them an off
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lane, and the off lane is if you get tested frequently enough and find out you're positive you won't come to work and you won't infect other people. so it really is somewhat of a compromise there. myself, i would make it just vaccinate or not, but he was trying to be moderate in what his pronouncement was. >> so dr. fauci there saying he would not let workers opt out of vaccine requirements with testing. was this biden policy made based on public health or political considerations or both? >> a little bit of both. i agree with dr. fauci. tonight the president removed the testing option from the federal government requiring all federal workers to get vaccinated, without a test out option. and i think he should have made the same requirement for companies with more than 100 people. i don't think the president went far enough. i was hoping that he would ban travel by unvaccinated people beginning in november.
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i also thought the president should have embraced a digital difficult to counterfeit verification system since we're putting so much stake now in businessman dates, corporate mandates for vaccinations. let's have a secure way for folks to show that they've been vaccinated. so, look, i like the speech. i like the speech very much, and i particularly like the fact that the tone was different and essentially the president said enough is enough. you know, my colleagues around the country who have been trying to put this fire out for the last 18 months have long ago said enough is enough, and i was really glad to hear that coming with a very strong voice from the white house today. >> yeah, i think dr. fauci is right. it should be stronger. can't get on a plane. you can't do any of those things. look, do the right thing and that should be it. matthew, governors are reacting to the president's new vaccine rules, alabama governor ckay ivy
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calling these outrageous. and we will fight them to the gates of hell, they promote vaccinations and yet attack these efforts the first chance they get. at this point, if you're not behind these requirements, does it mean that you're comfortable with continued covid spread? >> well, i think all of these -- and it's all -- let's just be clear about this. this is all republican trump supporting governors that have sort of spread throughout our nation that is actually completely getting in the way of all of the ideals not only, don, of our constitution, but the christianity so many of us practice and so many of them practice. all of this is. there was a time in america that we were willing to do what was in the best interest of our neighborhoods, our communities, our country, even if that's a small sacrifice like getting a
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needle in your arm or wearing a mask. but for some reason, there's a segment of leadership of our country that's unwilling to embrace the idea, as i said earlier of the common good, and keep in mind, don, one of the things that's consistent about all of this that affects this, all of this starts with a lie. it all started with a lie. first it wasn't a problem, and then there's some problem with the vaccine, and then all of these other crazy conspiracy theories, and then it leads us to the crazy policy choices that republicans are making. and those lies, all those things that start with a lie, why we're not doing anything about guns started with a lie. why we're not doing anything about climate change started with a lie, all of these. and now we're into health care, which used to be nonpartisan, because we want to do what's in the best interests of everyone, started with a lie and has led us here. >> you don't want to get a vaccine, you don't want to wear a mask or both, stay home. and that means from work, and i don't mean still having a job.
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where either you're part of the solution or you're part of the problem, and the problem right now is that we have 25% of our adults or as you said, almost 80 million americans who are unvaccinated, and we have to ffix that problem, and if we can't bribe them, and we can't cajole them, then we need these other tough measures to get folks to understand that they have to get vaccinated. so whether they have faith in the government or whether they just want to preserve their job, i don't really care. enough is enough. we need more of these people to get vaccinated for the good of the community. for the good of us all. >> on any given day, matthew, you can go on the internet or on social media or anywhere, and maybe you're just a passenger on a plane and you see these unruly airline passengers. were you surprised that biden chastised these people, talked about how they were directing their anger at flight attendants and that it was wrong and that
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they needed to show some respect? >> no, i'm not surprised at joe biden. i guess i'm surprised it took him this long to sort of vent that frustration at these folks who are doing it. it's just unbelievable to me, don, that the values that you and i and the doctor were all brought up as children, and if we have children of our own, we try to instill in our children the idea that we respect other people, we're not mean. we play well, we give people dignity. all of those by some people have just been thrown out the window completely. just been thrown out the window, and their own personal interests or their own personal, you know, grievance or their own personal whatever takes precedent over other people, and i just wish people would go back, you know, the book what i learned in kindergarten or whatever, but what we learned and what we want our children, and what we were taught as children, let's just practice those basics. let's just practice those basics. if we just practice those basics again, we'll be a lot better off as a country. >> thank you, gentlemen, absolutely you're right.
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is. the biden administration taking on texas over the new law banning abortions after six weeks. the justice department suing the state saying the law is unconstitutional under long standing supreme court precedent. we'll discuss now. laura koontz is here. good evening to you. thank you for joining us. the suit sets up a showdown between the federal government and the republican-hled state o
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texas. now what? >> the showdowns are pretty much handled on a supremacy clause that says the federal law and supreme court precedent will take precedent over the idea of a state law. texas knows they're in violation of row v. wade. they know they're in violation of federal law and they're attempting to go around as an end game. garland called out today there was an obvious and expressley stated goal of here. what is interesting we've been talking for a long time, don, about the iof idea uber drivers could have been swept under this, school counsellors, you name it. the idea of the vague definition behalf it means to aid and abet somebody trying to get an abortion, seems to have given license now to the department of justice to say it means our federal employees trying to
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carry out federal law, the labor department, areas where people are providing medicare and medicare services are included in that dragnet because now the people whose job it is to, in some ways, support things that could lead to abortion-related services, could now be facing liabilities. so that dragnet they set up around the ambiguous definition has invited the department of justice to bring this suit. >> listen, today you're talking about the critics of it, right? and the u.s. supreme court justice stephen breyer called the high court's refusal to block it very wrong. that's an incredible statement coming from the sitting justice, especially this one. >> absolutely. and how critical it is, he believes, to remain and be on the court. remember, it was a very slim majority they were able to have that procedural ruling that says this law can go into effect.
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it's not normal normally for a supreme court justice to write a dissending opinion that is as scathing as all of them were in the dissent about what they knew to be an end run around their very clear precedent. and, again, remember the whole goal here is to have the checks and balances on power of the legislative branch, of the executive branch. well now in texas it's basically foreclosuring an opportunity and the supreme court said it was novel and complex as if other cases are not novel and complex. he knew it was the wrong thing to do but opened the door and said if it becomes a substantiative, not just procedural matter in front of us, perhaps things might change. >> laura koontz, thank you. i appreciate it. have a good night. president biden pulling -- announcing new vaccine mandates that could affect 100 million americans. how far will it go in controlling the pandemic? h! i need you to print, i need you.
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tonight president biden adopting a get tough approach as his administration tries to bring the surging covid pandemic under control. mandating federal workers be vaccinated and requiring businesses with 100 or more employees to ensure their workers either vaccinated or tested once a week. and expressing frustration with the nearly 80 million americans who are eligible for the vaccine but haven't yet rolled up their sleeves saying, quote, "our patience is wearing thin." the justice department suing the state of texas over the new law s after six weeks. with
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