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back. our real estate rental properties, we're booming right now. people want to be here and we're going to create that environment for them to stay here. >> i appreciate your time, eric adams. if you do, quote, bring their butts back. i appreciate your time. and thanks to all of you for joining us. "ac 360" starts now. and good evening. it is a big night in california where polls in the gubernatorial re-election -- recall election close in exactly three hours. in a moment we'll have new exit polling and talk to senator bernie sanders who campaigned for governor newsom in california. the race not only will determine whether democratic governor gavin newsom holds on to his job but as president biden said last night, the eyes of the nation are on california, in part for what this election said about the mood of the electorate but also the shadow the former
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president has cast over the election. both he and the leading republican candidate in the race have already without evidence begun talking about a rigged election in that state. there's new excerpts in a forthcoming book co-authored by bob woodward and his colleague, robert costa. jamie gangel has breaking new information on the book and has new details right now. let's start about the call between house speaker nancy pelosi and general milley. >> let me just say the book has new details about what trump was doing on january 6th during the insurrection, how mike pence kept asking if there was a way to help trump, and what trump says behind kevin mccarthy's back. but let's start with milley and pelosi. what we know is that general mark milley, chairman of the joint chiefs, took secret action to limit president donald trump's ability to order a dangerous military strike or to use nuclear weapons, according
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to woodward and costa. just to set the stage, it's january 8th, two days after the assault on the capitol. and woodward and costa reveal that milley is deeply shaken by the attack, that he believes that president trump has become increasingly unstable and unpredictable since his election loss, and they also write that milley believed trump was in serious mental decline. it turns out so does speaker of the house nancy pelosi. she calls milley because she's worried about the nuclear weapons, and after the call, milley, he reassures her but he thinks to himself she's right. i need to act. he knows from intelligence from china that china is on the edge and that china is concerned trump may do a wag the dog military strike to stay in power. so milley calls an extraordinary
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meeting. he calls the pentagon war room and he brings in all the generals and the officials and he says to them, as a precaution, that he wants to make sure that they follow the proper procedures, and this, according to woodward and costa, is what milley says. quote, if you get calls, no matter who they're from, there's a process here. there's a procedure. no matter what you're told, you do the procedure. you do the process. and i'm part of the procedure. now, technically as chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, milley is not in the chain of command but, remember, he is the top advisor to the president. and what he was doing here was just making sure that there were no illegal or dangerous orders. woodward and costa do write that
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milley may be criticized for what some may think was overstepping his authority, but that milley believed his actions were a good faith precaution against something dangerous happening. >> it's really -- i mean that's extraordinary. there's also new detail in the book about what the former president was doing while attackers, rioters, were breaking into the capitol. >> right. so we've known that from past reporting that he was apparently sitting and watching television. but what woodward and costa report is that pence's national security advisor, retired general kellogg, is in there with trump and he is watching trump and he's watching it get more and more out of control and he finally says to trump, according to woodward and costa, sir, mr. president, you really should do a tweet. this is out of control.
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they're not going to be able to control this. sir, they're not prepared for it. once a mob starts turning like that, you've lost it. and according to woodward and costa, trump said, yeah? he blinked and he kept on watching television. >> you've also got previously unreported information about what former vice president pence was reaching out for advice on what to do in congress on january 6th. >> right. so we know that pence got to the right place on january 6th, but what's extraordinary in the book is woodward and costa report that he really appeared to be struggling and was looking for a way to help trump. it seems as if over and over he's asking people, is there anything i can do? and woodward and costa have a remarkable scene where pence reaches out for advice to former vice president dan quayle, also from indiana. and in the book pence asks
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quayle over and over and over, is there anything he can do? and over and over, quayle has to basically shut him down. here's what's from the book. he says to quayle, you know, is there anything i can do? and quayle says, mike, you have no flexibility on this, none, zero, forget it. put it away. pence, you don't know the position i'm in. quayle, i do know the position you're in. i also know what the law is. you listen to the parliamentarian, that's all you do. you have no power. >> we also in the immediate aftermath of january 6th that house minority leader kevin mccarthy said he thought trump bears responsibility for what happened and quickly backtracking. and now he's been backtracking ever since then. what does the book say about their relationship. >> there's the famous picture of
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him going down to mar-a-lago. well, it turns out that the book reveals trump is still very angry with the republicans who blamed him for the insurrection, including house minority leader kevin mccarthy. and mccarthy may think, anderson, that he's back in trump's good graces, but according to woodward and costa, this is what trump told friends in the book. quote, trump said, this guy called me every single day, pretended to be my best friend and then he f'ed me. he's not a good guy. kevin came down to kiss my ass and wants my help to win the house back. look, as we know, kevin mccarthy as one goal, to be speaker of the house. that doesn't sound like than endorsement, anderson. >> it's really fascinating. jamie gangel, thanks so much. >> thank you. >> cnn political commentator scott jennings and former congresswoman barbara comstock of virginia. congresswoman comstock, i wonder
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what you make of this new reporting? >> well, i think the american people should thank vice president dan quayle, first of all. that was solid and good advice. none of this information is too surprising. what is happening now with these books and what will happen with the january 6th committee and the subpoenas and the texts and the emails that come from all of these people close to the president, we are going to see it in a lot more detail and, unfortunately, as we get more detail, it is going to look even more awful for donald trump because every time you think you're in the basement of awfulness with donald trump, there's another basement below it. but the great news, and i think that is coming out in these books and will come out in the hearings also, is that you had republican officials even within his own white house, certainly within his administration, who said no to him and you also had officials in arizona and georgia and other states who also said
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no. and unfortunately are paying political consequences. but i think history will reward them. and a party that keeps trying to hitch itself to the sore loser who's a dangerous but a very diminished and unpopular politician is going to be a losing party. >> scott, do you believe general milley did the right thing? >> well, i think he probably would say he did the only thing he could do, which is try to keep things on the rails, you know, long enough for a new president to take over. although, as you know, anderson, i've been quite critical of what donald trump did in the aftermath of january 6th and in the events leading up to january 6th, i'm very concerned about the prospect of our military leaders, in this case our top military commander, essentially going around the president, going over the president, having secret meetings inside the government according to some reporting in this book, maybe even calling china, which is our
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adversary and having conversations with his counterpart over there. to me, as concerned as i am about a commander in chief being off the rails, i'm also concerned about our unelected military leaders doing things that are not in the character of a civilian-run military. so this entire episode to me is extraordinarily concerning. i think general milley has some questions to answer about what he did. to me if he was that concerned, anderson, he should have gone public. instead he kept all of his concerns private and did things privately. although some will applaud him, i think we need a public accounting of this. >> that's interesting, scott. do you think it would have been better for him to publicly come out and say something about his concerns about the president as opposed to talking to generals and as you said whatever the details of his conversation with china, if there was one? >> yeah. i think that it's obvious that he had extreme concerns. he said according to the book he thought the president was in
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mental decline. he had concerns about the president's decision-making capacity. and although i'm certain there are legal steps that he took inside of his position that were appropriate, i do think if you have the top military commander in the country with these concerns, enough of a concern to call these extraordinary meetings and maybe even contact foreign countries, i do believe public knowledge of that would have been warranted at the time and i certainly think now public knowledge of it is warranted. we really need an accounting of how all that went down. maybe there's more to learn in the book when it comes out, but it's all very troubling that you had a civilian military leader and the top military leader doing things that were really not in the character of our normal chain of command. >> congresswoman, what do you think? >> well, i think what he was doing was saying there is a proper procedure if any of these actions are taken and he was certainly alerting all of the people to that. you had people in the same time frame who were going to senators, who were going to members of congress and saying the same type of things.
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remember some of his cabinet quit the day after. there were people calling for the 25th amendment to be invoked. i was. i know adam kinzinger and others were saying we need to have the 25th amendment. so what was said by general milley and others is not something that wasn't said by many republicans, and that's what i mean when i say if this comes out, you're going to see there were lots of people both within the white house and elsewhere and thank you to general milley for using the procedures. i think all he was doing, and i think this is what will come out, and sure he can testify and talk about it, as should general kellogg and many others who were there with the president that day. but what he was doing was saying this is an unstable person we're dealing with. i can assure you that was said by lots of republican members of congress. and we need to make sure that all of the processes that are in place are taken if he tries to do something -- anything untoward because this was an unstable person who we know was calling up people.
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and i think one of the voices you haven't heard from that i think we really need to hear from is his counsel's office, his chief counsel. all of these calls that were being made, that the president himself made, they were made because his own counsel said you shouldn't do this, according to reports, because he knew if he did the kind of things that trump did, he might be up for disbarment. so i think you need to hear from all of the people around the president who told him to stop doing many of the things he was doing. they did -- you know, they ignored his commands too because they were unconstitutional and they were not things, whether they were amoral, immoral, unconstitutional, they were things that many of the people, including his own family. look, the reporting is that ivanka and jared didn't want to have anything to do with it. if they didn't want to have anything to do with the president, they shouldn't have been in there as family members and also pretending to be staff when it came down to it, they didn't want to talk to dear ole
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dad and tell him what he should do. all of these people should be out there with a public accounting. but i thank general milley and thank all of the people who stopped this president from his unconstitutional actions and we need -- that's why this january 6th commission is going to be so important and god bless all the republicans who are out there fighting for it. >> congresswoman comstock, i appreciate it, scott jennings as well. still to come, our coverage of the california recall election including john king at the magic wall. plus which counties to watch for tonight. also ahead we'll speak with senator bernie sanders about the state of the race and that long shadow the former president and his conspiracy theories have cast over this california race. the lexus nx. experience the crossover in its most visionary form. experience amazing at your lexus dealer.
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california even more voter registration trending even more in favor of the democrats. g not only would all republicans have to vote against him but a lot of democrats would have to vote against him or stay home. it's a revolt among democrats that it will take. the polling suggests that won't happen. >> and larry elder, what does he need to happen to win? >> if you look at this map, this is the presidential race. if you look at the race for governor, any republican to beat gavin newsom would need every one of these republicans to participate tonight. but they would need even more than that because of that math. let me show you, number one, we know the math so far in the here and now in the pre-election voting. more than half of the ballots returned are from democrats. that does not mean they all voted no. some may have voted to recall their governor. but by more than 2-1 democrats have returned ballots. that more than exceeds the democratic advantage in voter registration. the math is stacked against any
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republican, including larry elder. if you go back 25 years ago, i was covering politics back then, 36% of california registered voters were republicans. look at the steep decline. that is now 24%. so for any republican to win, including mr. elder, not only would every registered republican have to participate in this recall. again, you would need a lot of democrats and independents to run away from gavin new enewsom >> what counties are you watching? >> you look at where the people are, right? the most populous county in california is los angeles. it's not only a huge part of the democratic base, it will tell us are latinos voting? what is the percentage? how many democrats are saying, sorry, governor, we want to recall you. the largest county in the state will give us a good glimpse of that. other places to up watch, san diego is the second largest county in the state. i point this out because gavin newsom carried san diego but not by as big a margin. republicans or recall supporters need to flood out here. if you come up here you can look at orange county.
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back in ronald reagan's days this was the bedrock of the republican party. it's now about 50-50. recall supporters need an overwhelming turnout here. this is blue tonight. gavin newsom will stay in his term in governor. the governor, gavin newsom, used to be the mayor of san francisco. his political base is up here in the bay area. san francisco county, alameda county, you move toward contra costa county, we'll look at those. you see all these red counties? most of them don't have a lot of people in them. only two of the top population counties are red back in the last governor's race. so the smaller counties, it's just like the trump election in 2020. not only do the recall supporters have to win these red counties, the turnout has to be overwhelming. >> john king, thanks very much. more perspective now from senator bernie sanders, who urged californians to support governor newsom in a recent ad. senator, thanks for joining us. many democrats optimistic about governor newsom's chances to fends off this recall?
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do you share that optimism? >> well, i am not much into political speculation. we will finding out the results a few hours. i think governor newsom has done a good job under very difficult circumstances. i think what you're seeing in california and all over this country is anger and frustration. we're dealing with covid, we're dealing with economic problems, we're dealing with climate change. but i think in california the governor has done his best, done well and i think the people will respond accordingly. >> it also seems that governor newsom made a decision to nationalize the race and talk about the big lie, about trumpism. >> right. >> and i'm wondering if you think that was a wise thing to do? >> yeah, i do. i think the truth is that california does not need a right-wing governor, republican governor. i think it is historically been in recent years one of the most progressive states in the united states and i think the people wanting it to stay that way. >> larry elder and the former president have already made it
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clear that if governor newsom holds on to his job they are going to say that the election was rigged. i mean is this now going to happen in every race where a republican loses? >> it may. this is one of the crises that we face which is why by the way i'm working so hard as the chairman of the senate budget committee on this reconciliation bill. i think a lot of people in america are losing faith in government. when you have republicans saying that every election that took place that they lose was rigged, then people are not going to believe very much about the political process. and what we are trying to do right now or in the united states senate, in the house, is pass the most consequential piece of legislation in the modern history of this country which tells the working families of california and of vermont and all over this country that maybe, just maybe, the time is now for congress to address the crises facing working families and not continue to just worry about the needs of the wealthy and the powerful.
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so i have been focusing on that issue, and we look forward to getting it passed in the near future. >> yeah, just to reminding viewers, you are chairman of the budget committee. there is a struggle within your own party to present a united front on the $3.5 trillion reconciliation package. senator manchin told dana bash on sunlds there's no way he would vote for anything close to that. maybe he would support a $1.5 trillion package. his vote is obviously very important in terms of passing. is there a solution there? >> yeah, there is a solution. i think we're negotiating with 50 people. everybody in the caucus has their needs and has their concerns, but this is what i think every member of the democratic caucus understands. that is we live in a country where the people on top are doing phenomenally well while working families are struggling. does anyone deny that our child care system is a dysfunctional mess? no. people are paying 10, 15,
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$20,000 a year for child care. we have a million women who would like to return to the workforce but can't because they can't find adequate child care. we have to deal with child care. does anybody deny that our higher educational system is unaffordable? i don't think so. we need to make sure that our young people get the training that they need, get the college credits they need in a way they can afford it. that's why we're trying to make two years of community colleges' tuition free. i would go further but that's a start. does anybody in america think it's appropriate that we have elderly people with no teeth in their mouth, can't afford hearing aids or eyeglasses. we're trying to expand medicare to cover those issues. on top of all of that, i hope there are very few people in america that do not understand that we are facing a massive crisis in terms of climate change and that if we do not begin the process of transforming our energy system away from fossil fuel, the planet, the country that we're going to be leaving our children and grandchildren will be
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increasingly unhealthy and uninhabitable. among many other issues. what we are trying to do, anderson, which is unprecedented, what the president is doing is taking a look at the crises facing america and saying, you know what, whether it's high cost of prescription drugs, health care, we are going to address those crises rather than give more tax breaks to the rich and the powerful. >> so how will the final figure be decided? >> it's going to be $3.5 trillion. that's the compromise that's already been made. i think what we perceive right now, you should stick around for a day and hear all these folks. bernie, i need to do more on child care, we need to do more on pre-k, we need to do more on affordable housing. we need to do more. the truth is $3.5 trillion is not enough. over the next ten years when you look at the gross domestic product of the united states, we're talking about close to $300 trillion over the next ten years. this is $3.5 trillion, barely more than 1% of that.
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furthermore, if i have anything to say about it, this legislation, $3.5 trillion, will be paid for, will not add to the national debt and paid for by finally demanding that the wealthiest people in this country who in some years pay zero, they pay less than the average fireperson or teacher, pays zero in federal taxes, large corporations pay nothing in taxes, we will change that. >> so $3.5 trillion for you, it can't go lower than that? >> no. we compromised already. most members of the caucus wanted $6 trillion, which is a more appropriate number. >> senator sanders, i appreciate you joining us, thank you. >> thank you. up next, david chalian and what we're learning from the exit polls in california, the two major things on minds, covid and the economy. he has new polling, next. ♪ ♪ charlotte! charl! every day can be extraordinary with rich,
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welcome back. we're following break news. polls close at 8:00 p.m. in california about two and a half hours from now. this hour we're getting some insight into what voters are thinking. i want to check in with david chalian who has the latest on the exit polls. so what are you hearing from voters about governor newsom's handling of the pandemic? >> this is issue number one, anderson, the coronavirus. take a look at this question about the vaccine and how california voters in this recall election consider it. 63% of voters in this election say it's a public health responsibility. they consider it more that than only the 34% that say it's a personal choice. again, i think you see why gavin newsom in these closing days of this campaign has been leaning into his vaccine mandate policies. also we asked what about his overall policies for the coronavirus? 45% of the voters, according to these early exit polls say it's
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about right. a smaller portion, 32%, too strict and actually 17% say not strict enough. >> what about the economy? >> we also asked what is your sense of the condition of the economy in california? only 5% say excellent. but a healthy chunk here, 44%, say good. and if you look overall, this sort of splits in half. the good/excellent totals to 49%. 26% not so good. 22% poor. that totals up to about 48%. this is a split electorate in terms of how they perceive the economy. and in terms of the cost of living, and this finding whether or not governor newsom survives the recall, if he does survive the recall, he's going to have to deal with this. 38% say the cost of living in california is manageable, but nearly six in ten voters in this recall effort say, 59% of them anyway, that it's unmanageable. the cost of living in their
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community. that is the kind of fervor that gives life to this kind of an election of recalling a governor. >> david chalian, appreciate it. i want to get some perspective from david axelrod, former senior advisor to president obama, so does van jones and chief political analyst gloria borger. david, what's your biggest takeaway from the exit polls? >> well, look, gavin newsom made a bet here and he made this a referendum on his covid policies. everything going into this suggests in polling that that is a winning formula for him. it was going to be a referendum on him and his general performance. he's focused on this. so, listen, it would not be a surprise if this recall loses. they're 2-1 democratic edge in the state, more than 2-1 edge on spending on his side. biden carried the state by 29
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points. but the manner and the margin are what people are going to be watching because democrats all over the country are going to say is there something we can learn as we enter the '22 cycle. and i think a lot of it will be around this issue of how they treated the covid issue. >> gloria? >> it's an issue that has shifted because before the delta variant -- >> yes. >> -- he was in trouble. >> yes. because people thought he was too draconian. that's why you got the recall in the first place. >> he's gone through such a highs and lows. >> totally. >> he was praised early on. >> right. >> and then attacked. >> then attacked. and now delta variant and people are saying, wait a minute, i want to feel safe. six in ten say that it's a public health issue. that's really important to him. and then he got another gift, which was candidate elder. and he could use him as a target, which he decided to do because you can't win an election without saying your opponent is bad.
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now he had an opponent that was an overwhelming favorite among the 46 running against him and that worked for him also. >> you know, there are bad disasters and there are good disasters. gavin had an unbelievable number of bad disasters. the fires, the flood, homelessness, a pandemic. and he had a good disaster, larry elder. he's a disaster for the republican party and you had gavin on the ropes. >> disaster because? >> disaster because he is a terrible person. he is. larry elder has been somebody -- >> wow. >> he's a terrible person. >> certifiable? >> he defended the killer of trayvon martin. he said he would rather have george zimmerman as a neighbor than trayvon. this guy is so extreme, so offensive, he has done so many awful things, and he's been in l.a. for a long time. once you realize that larry elder is going to be the governor, people who were really sitting on their hands wanting to punish gavin said we're not
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going to punish ourselves this much by inflicting this disaster on the state. >> gloria, you call it a gift. it really wasn't a gift. the fact is, as van points out, 46 candidates, and he emerged overwhelmingly. >> right. >> what does that say about the republican party? >> wasn't a lot of that just name recognition? >> he's a radio host. >> one of the candidates, kevin fau faulconer, former mayor of san diego, is thought to be the most formidable candidate of newsome either now or 2022. he may not reach double digits if the polls are right. it just underscores that this is trump's party and that can be a liability for republican candidates around the country. it helps you in a primary. but in a general election -- now, california is not the typical state, but it's very clear -- we'll see how independent voters vote in this election. polling indicates this they were breaking heavily for newsom and
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i think part of it they don't want to be associated with the right-wing extreme republicans. >> which is why joe biden was there talking about trump, saying that larry elder is trump's candidate, saying that he would be another trump, and they raised that and they also raised the issue on health of these republican governors, abbott and desantis, who have had not a lot of success with covid because of their own policies. voters might be thinking, well, okay, i don't like gavin newsom that much, we have problems in the state, but do i want somebody who agrees with governor abbott or governor desantis to be my governor? >> it's also one thing for the former president to continue the big lie. i mean that's obvious he's going to be doing that when he's dead in the ground to whomever he's talking to. but for any reputable person, candidate, to really claim this rigged election stuff, it's
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just -- i mean it should be a mark of -- the mark -- >> but in cnn's own polling, a majority of voters associated themselves with that notion. >> right. but i'll say republican folks who have not looked into themselves and are just listening to -- as somebody actually running a race who wants to be a leader of people, to really claim that to me is just such a sign -- >> i couldn't agree with you more. practically here, the reality of where we are. the reality of where we are is that this is table stakes for republicans who want to run in many venues. >> but if you want to be a leader and you're clinging to something for which there is no evidence, in fact there's counterevidence -- >> in advance. >> -- it's not appropriate. >> the only thing i want to say is that you had gavin in a situation where he was vulnerable and there was frustration. the republican party should have sent a tank after him.
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instead they sent a clown car after him of the and now it may be an ambulance. in other words, gavin newsom -- you think about scott walker in wisconsin. he survived a tough recall and he became presidential candidate. gavin newsom, you talk about the ups and the downs. if in fact gavin newsom winds up being where he may be, because he made this about texas and florida, he's saying i am gavin newsom, i am doing better in my state than texas and florida. he's becoming a real figure now. so i think what's ironic is that people -- the republican party thought they had this guy. they may have actually made this guy. >> right. and to anderson's point, though, on the election trutherism, i think now tonight we have to see if elder loses what he does and what he says because before this -- before he first said joe biden was fairly elected. then he sort of took it back. now he's talking about election shenanigans, right? so what is elder going to say if he loses?
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how are republicans going to react? and does this set the table yet again for the sort of rigged election narrative that is so phony and ridiculous, particularly in california. >> he'll go back to being a radio host, which of course then -- i understand radio hosts and fox news pundits making up stuff about a rigged election because that's where their bread and butter is. but again, for somebody who wants to hold office, that -- >> it is -- >> -- should be a higher standard. >> leaving the politics of it aside, it is really, really destructive for a democracy if people fundamentally their reaction to an election if i don't win i'm going to claim fraud and all my flock will follow with. and donald trump has a vested interest in seeing them all do this. i think 80%, 85% of people will vote by mail. he wants to discredit that in order to keep his big lie going. so everybody in this republican
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party, not everybody, but the people who follow him like larry elder, they are affirming his story again. it's not just about their own election, they're saying this is a -- this is endemic to our system, it's corrupt, it is fraudulent. that is a real hammer blow to democracy. that's a legacy of donald trump. >> exactly. unless you win, in which case of course it is perfectly fine. if you win the election then of course it isn't rigged at all. but this is donald trump -- even in 2016 when he won the state of california, you'll all recall that he claimed he had 4 million more votes or something than he -- i mean when he lost the state, won the presidency, lost the state. he claimed that he actually had 4 million more votes than he actually had. >> can i say something about gavin. one of the things is the labor movement in california was holding back from gavin a little bit because there are a couple of ballot measures that he hadn't been there for him and stuff like that. he's been able to pull that
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coalition back together. that coalition was fragmenting. i do think that he's coming through this a lot stronger. he's coming through it a lot more connected to the grassroots than he had been and he's going to get some credit for some of the good stuff that he's done. so he's turned a breakdown into a breakthrough. >> he also -- i mean the great fear was that there would be a slumbering democratic electorate. by really focusing on the threat, the threat on public health, the threat of trumpism -- >> he turned that around. >> -- he really galvanized people. >> we'll be seeing a lot more of everybody. it's also going to be a long night for governor newsom and larry elder. we'll check in at their headquarters, next.
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batteries and first aid kit are a good start to learn more, visit safetyactioncenter.pge.com back to our breaking news. californians are going to the polls in the gubernatorial recall election. polls close in a little more than two hours. the election will decide if governor newsom will keep his job but its impact will be felt across the country. we've got reporters with the governor and his leading opponent. kyung lah is in sacramento with the latest at the newsom camp and lucy is the elder's camp. let's start with kyung. what's the feeling tonight, optimism? >> reporter: absolute optimism and extreme confidence. what we are hearing from team newsom that it's not the outcome that they're wondering, it's just when they will know.
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the governor's top advisor already told reporters that there is no scenario in which they believe that this doesn't end up in a win for team newsom. we're also hearing that same strategist saying that at the end of the night this will ending up being, quote, a rejection of this appalling partisan power grab. why are they saying this, anderson? high turnout. numbers are on democrats' side with those high voter registration numbers. democrats outnumbering republicans in this state 2-1. they are feeling very good with just over two hours left to vote, anderson. >> and do we hear from governor newsom tonight? is there any indication what he'll talk about? he clearly was nationalizing this race. >> reporter: absolutely nationalizing it. but i think what we should focus on is that it's really going to be how he speaks to the public and how he speaks to californians tonight. this isn't going to be a party. we're not anticipating balloons or confetti. you're going to see a governor look at what he has been talking
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about in recent days, the urgency of the moment, that he understands californians want him to govern this state out of some of the crises facing them, homelessness, the economy, covid, and that is what we anticipate the governor will be focusing on when he speaks to reporters. >> thanks very much. i want to go to southern california to the elder headquarters. how is it there, lucy? >> reporter: well, the campaign is tight-lipped for now. the official message is that they are optimistic but he hasn't had any public events with supporters today. the campaign describing this as a victory party. they will be letting in supporters shortly. they have surrogates here. they have booked a band that's about to start. the campaign tells me that elder spent the afternoon and morning doing radio interviews in local media. in one interview he was asked whether he plans to run for governor if the recall fails once governor newsom is up for re-election in a second term. his answer was telling.
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he says i have now become a political force here in california. i am not going to leave the stage. anderson. >> former president trump released a statement today calling the election rigged. does the elder campaign think that helped them? >> reporter: well, it certainly helped governor newsom's campaign. the elder campaign is not formally responding to the trump statement but it is the second day in a row that the former president has issued a statement along those lines. i had a chance to ask elder about this yesterday when he was campaigning. he sort of dodged the question, just saying he was hoping for a fair election. i should stress of course that no votes have been counted yet. any allegations of fraud are baseless at this stage of the game but it is a message that has been resonating with some of his supporters. several republican voters that they have spoken to were saying they were waiting until today, election day, to cast their ballots in person. up next, more breaking news. an update on tropical depression nicholas which has stalled and is dumping torrential rain on areas still trying to recover from hurricane ida. we'll be right back.
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have been asked to stay home due to dangerous conditions of hurricane nicholas. it's now stalled with more than 6 million people under flash flood watches from texas to the florida panhandle, and an area still trying to recover from hurricane ida. what's the latest? >> at the 8:00 p.m. advisory from the national hurricane center, it's weakened to a tropical depression. we want to point out the speed. six miles per hour. you could actually outrun the system. that's where we start to have problems. it's not very well organized. but it hasn't been since the very beginning of this. when you go back and look at the birth of the system, it was hard for the national hurricane center to find a center. if you can't find a center, you don't know why landfall will be. just before landfall, it did reach that hurricane status. it stayed that way for three hours. because those winds were able to
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intensify, we have some damage. there's no doubt about it. over 80, 94 mile per hour wind gusts. we have damage to homes and businesses, uprooted trees, power lines down. about a half million people lost power with that. some good news here. all of the rain, as you notice, is off to the east. we really got lucky. even though residents stay home in areas around houston, they flood four, five inches of rain. this could have been worse, even toward corpus christi. look at totals. this first one, 14 inches, is an o outlier. the national weather service will look into that. many areas at ten and it's still raining. it's moving in to the vulnerable spots. it's lake charles, louisiana, hit last year. thousands of homes have tarps. areas hit by ida where you have exposed home, debris in the roadways and in streams and
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creeks. that's where this is going to be a problem going forward. we had a warning in new orleans. that's been allowed to expire. rain to pensacola. >> in terms of flooding over the next 24 hours, you are concerned about new orleans, lake charles? >> any time a tropical system moves at a snail's pace, bad things happen. that's what we are watching here. you have a good 6 million with watches. there's the warning for lake charles. more will be issued most likely. here we go. weather prediction center, a very rare level 4 out of 4 for an excessive rainfall. the last time we had one of these, besides yesterday, with a when ida moved into areas of pennsylvania, new jersey and new york. we remember those images. again, the good news if we find any, even though it will move at a snail's pace, six miles an hour, but it could get slower. i think the rainfall rates are not two and three inches an hour. we have seen half an inch to an inch. with this moving through this vulnerable area and the saturated ground, we could see six to ten inches from north of
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i made a financial plan to live it every day. ♪ ♪ find a northwestern mutual advisor at nm.com norm macdonald has died after a nearly decade long battle with cancer which he kept private. it was a talented comedian, best known for his work on "saturday night live." that's him there on the far right. here is his version of burt reynolds. >> what are you doing? >> i found this backstage. funny. >> it's not. >> sure it is. it's funny because it's bigger than a normal hat. >> i see that. get back to your podium. >> macdonald impersonated dole. he wrote, norm macdonald was a
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great talent and i loved laughing with him on snl. tom arnold writes, one of the easiest things i have done was hire norm macdonald to write "ro "roseanne." norm was fearless in comedy and life and his unique voice is missed by all of us today. norm macdonald was 61 years old. i will be back at 10:00 p.m. for special coverage of the california recall election. now it's time to hand it over to chris cuomo. welcome to "prime time." now we know the truth. we were closer to a real destruction of our democracy than was even apparent. trump was considering crazy actions that threatened national security. concerns that went all the way to the top at the pentagon. bob woodward and rober