about what they're not moving forward with charges. as we heard repeatedly throughout this hearing what these women is accountability. >> appreciate the reporting. thank you. the news continues right now. let's hand it over to chris for "cuomo primetime." i am chris cuomo and welcome to prime time. be on the look out. you need to be aware the people calling for milly's head. one, they're distracting from the real headline from this book. confirmation for how out of control president trump was. that many knew perhaps including those calling for milly's head. they knew what was going on with trump. and there are real questions about why rubio and others never spoke about trump the way they are talking about the man who protected the democracy from him. second, even if you do want to keep the spotlight on milley,

you now need to add another key fact they're ignoring. milley did what he did with the consent of trump's secretary of defense, mark esper. so much for milley going rogue. so now what? again, i still think milley has to testify. in the open, no national security vail, no closed meeting, open meeting, why? because then we're going to have to hear interpretation from politicians. we know he's scheduled to speak in two weeks but we're told part of it is going to be closed. they'll stay there's national security, i'm telling you it's problematic. even better, he should come here. i'll give him the full hour to explain. and there won't be competing agendas going on. we can get after the truth. without that toxic two side play going on. but either way if he's going to go to congress don't get distracted.

that woodward book "peril" it's not about milley but trump and his enablers, specifically confirming trump was as bad as reported and suspected. and that was known likely by many in the administration and perhaps those like rubio, cruz, paul, holley, the same senators now saying they're about the principle of checking power. where were you then? why were you all quiet about trump and his ravings? you want to go after milley for what he did. why don't you account for why you did nothing? how could you not have known what was so openly feared especially in that gossipy d.c. media political swamp that you all inhabit? now, part of the answer is that some of these guys tried to help trump's election madness and they all fear him. earlier president biden threw

cold-water on any suggestions about milley. he threw his full support behind him saying, he has, quote, great confidence after revelations emerged from this book about his calls from his chinese counterpart to ensure beijing trump wouldn't start a war. a big reason that he didn't go rogue as rubio would like to suggest is now known, a defense official tells which know milley's calls on october 30th and again on january 8th were handled under proper protocol. there were 15 people on both videoconference calls including a representative from the state department. and the official says the read out was shared with the entire intelligence community. milley conducted the october call in consultation with then defense secretary mark esper. no going rogue. and this comes directly from the general's office. all calls came from the chairman to his counter parts including

those reported were staffed, coordinated and communicated with the department of defense and the interagency. the meeting regarding nuclear weapons protocols was to remind uniformed leaders in the pentagon of long established and robust procedures in light of media reporting on the subject. now those are material facts that greatly change the contextual concerns that we have. does it change anything for cruz or paul or josh holly? remember january 6th, fist pump fame, right? i always wave to people. listen. >> i hope these reports are inaccurate, but he does need to resign. he needs to resign. if he won't resign, he needs to be fired. >> even if he did it with the secretary of defense and 15 people on the call and followed all the protocols, what did he do wrong? what did he do wrong?

articulate it now legal genius? does marco rubio want to take back his letter to biden now? the senator immediately jumped to conclusions calling milley treasonous and also calling for his firing. >> i think he told them this wasn't normal. i had to do this for the good of our country because he wanted to make himself look good. this is a constitutional violation, a violation of our oath of the constitution and also treacherous. >> maybe you shouldn't form your positions while driving. maybe you should like not just pull over to video but think and not just go over the womb of fox to have all your frenzies incubated. there is no shame in their game. he wants to stay in the umwomb where it's warm and safe. now attacking milley for worrying about how trump will use nuclear codes.

remember this? >> a con artist is about to take over the republican party. we're about to take over the conservative movement to a person who has no ideas of any substance on the important issues, the nuclear codes of the united states to an erratic individual. >> an erratic individual shouldn't have the nuclear codes. that was rubio's point. what changed? trump didn't. >> i got impeached twice. i didn't change. i became worse. i became worse. >> truest words he ever spoke. >> what changed was rubio went from a player to -- because those guided by principles absolutely should have been alarmed as most of us were by this. >> this is a fraud on the american public. this is an embarrassment to our country. frankly, we did win this

election. all vice president pence has to do is send it back to the states to recertify and we become president. we fight. we fight like hell. and if you don't fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore. we had an election that was stolen from us. go home. we love you. you're very special. >> and they let all of it go. they don't even want to investigate the insurrection, but they want milley to go down on principle. now they're all worried about president biden. i'm worried about what he says. i don't know that he's mentally on his game. you hear about that magic buzzer? but they sat like these three monkeys, no see, no hear, no speak during this tour defarce. >> person, woman, man, camera,

tv, they say that's amazing, how did you do that? i do it because i have a good memory, because i'm cognitively there. >> so i guess the clinicians were surprised that he was competent. the man couldn't pronounce thailand, a long list of other embarrassments. our mandemic president you'll remember thought you could inject bleach to wipeout covid but they're worried about biden? not the guy who took a sharpy to alter a hurricane's path and said you can nuke hurricanes? you know why they were quiet the same reason they're loud now. this is the game. to help trump. why do i have to address trump? sure as hell isn't because i want to. it's because he's still in control of the players in half of this game we call politics, and he is still the republicans

best chance to return to power. so that is the state of play. let's turn to a better mind who's been sounding alarm bells as both a clinician and a trump relative, mary trump, his only niece out with a new book "the reckoning." welcome back to prime time. it's good to see you. they're trying to have a reckoning here on milley, but, you know, his mental state is the subject of this book. and he had people all over him rattled. what does it say that so many saw that he was in a state of decline near the end? >> it says that they were finally paying attention perhaps. but i think an even more important question is why did they keep it secret? why did they not do anything about it? you know, general milley was in

a practically impossible situation because he was dealing with an incredibly fraught potentially dangerous situation because his commander in chief was no longer competent to the extent he ever had been. but more than that the entire cabinet was in dereliction of its duty. they should have invoked the 25th amendment. and failing that, how could any responsible adult think that it was a good idea to leave donald unchecked at that point? >> unchecked i hear you. 25th amendment. you know why it never works? the president all he has to do is say no i'm fine. and now you have this whole secondary review process that the amendment lays out, and it's just too hard that way. but it's something that they talk about. they didn't want to talk about it with him, though, not his own people. i'll get to that in a second. this is why i needed you to tonight. your uncle likes to use the word magic and magical. the pandemic will magically

disappear. the vaccine is like a magic pill. he believed he had magic powers to deal with what he perceived as an insurrection at the border. now, i'm not saying he thinks he's a wizard, but what does that speak to in terms of his concept of power and potency? >> it's a really interesting question because on the one hand it shows that he's really delusional and on the other hand it shows how unwilling he is to do the hard work. so it's simply by virtue of his presence and his leadership these things will suddenly be fixed somehow. and it's also a sign that he was not willing to take any of the threats to our country seriously and just really expected and based on his track record why wouldn't he just the very fact that he exists meant that

everything was going to be just fine. and by fine for him that meant he was going to get away with it which so far he has. >> kevin mccarthy told your uncle on january 19, i don't know what's happened to you in the last two months. you're not the same as you were for the last four years. do you believe that he has suffered a significant decline, or do you think it was just episodic stress meaning once the moment passed he was okay? >> i think it's -- it's quite frankly absurd to suggest that donald was totally fine in 2016. he never has been. he's always been deeply psychologically disordered, but as you just said stressors can exacerbate any pre-existing condition. and what must not be forgotten is that on november 7th he suffered the worst humiliation, the worst loss of his life.

it was incal cuable the damage it did to him. and part of the reason we know that is because he effectively stopped doing his job after he lost. >> or he started to see his job differently which is just to stay in power. >> now the fealty and fear of being shown by the supplica knt rubio and the others, how does that empower the mentality of donald trump to want to get back into power? how much does that fuel for him? and what do you believe is the expectation of what he would be open to in order to regain power? >> i think that is the biggest problem this country is facing because the republican party, the republican leadership had decided that their best path forward to retain power in the future is donald, which is kind

of shocking. they're willing to overlook anything. they're willing to prop him up. they're willing to concede to him, and it is allowing him -- not just allowing him to continue the lying about the election, about the insurrection and about anything else he can lie about including general milley's role, but it gives him a relevance he wouldn't have otherwise had. it gives him a larger audience because they are passing on his talking points. and it's something -- as you said at the beginning unfortunately we cannot look away because he is continuing to be allowed to be such a significant factor in our country's politics. >> you know, i would have lost every dime betting on the posture of the party after president trump's exit because they're making it hard for him, mary, not to run. they're fighting all his

battles. they're saying he was right about everything. they're making it hard for him not to run. we'll see what the next chapter is. mary trump, the book is the reckoning. thank you very much as always. be well. >> thank you. now to the current president, cracking down on the unvaccinated. why? because the rest of us can't be held hostage, that's why. now do we need a booster shot? do they work? we're getting into bad water already here why? bad messaging. people are worried this is a money play by big pharma. we were told they were going to roll it out next week. the fda isn't meeting until friday about whether or not we need one and why. this is how we get into trouble. did biden get ahead of the science? do we have the coordination? let's bring in one of the top players in our nation's covid fight. can this man clear up our confusion? next.

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we go back nine months when the fda first met to authorize pfizer's vaccine it was easy to anticipate the outcome, authorization. but the same can't be said when advisers meet this friday over pfizer's booster shots. why? well, the biden administration has pushed a september 20 rollout for weeks, but there's heated debate inside the fda over dueling sets of data. the latest, three studies two of which are notably sponsored by pfizer support the argument for boosters. new data from moderna also suggests the same. but it was just a week ago that the cdc published three separate articles that suggested otherwise. no need for boosters. over the last two months there's been other data and confusing talks, frankly, from the top. wavering between not needing it and needing it. the impact is real because it adds to skepticism. and we cannot tolerate that right now. others have rushed to get a

booster. i'm sure you're hearing the stories i haven't and it hasn't even been fda approved. dr. francis collins is the director of the national institutes of health and he joins me now. it's good to have you now, doctor. thank you. >> glad to be with you, chris. that's quite a setup here. let's see what we can do to straighten this out. >> look, i don't bring you on here to attack but just to help. is there a clear answer to as to whether or not a booster is necessary? >> there is not. which is why we're having this public discussion on friday with all the data out there that everybody can look at. you know, if we were an authoritarian country we would have just told you the answer and that would have been that but that's not how we do things. we have a lot of data, a mountain of it. and reasonable people have not come to the same conclusion yet. some of the data just got published today. this is great lesson how science should do what it is which is look at the evidence, bring all

the opinions together and make decisions. when in fact this is the right way to get to the answer we can defend and not something arbitrary. >> it would have been fine except you're in a toxic climate where everything gets politicized except biden came out september 20 and had confidence in it. you had fauchy saying it's time for a booster and now it seems that's not true. that's the problem. >> well, i was part of the group of docs that looked at the data three or four weeks ago, could see what was coming, wanted to get ahead of this virus not behind it and made it very clear fda and cdc would have to do their official job looking at this but didn't want to get caught unprepared. if they come down in favor of boosters then by the week of the 20th which is very soon we'd want to be ready for that. so it was a preparatory step. it was in no way supposed to

undercut the official review process of fda and cdc. that was made clear all along but i think people forgot to notice that. >> well, that's the problem, right? because the messaging matters. and if the president seems to be getting ahead of the science when he says follow the science, it creates skepticism at a minimum. in the debate you have an additional wrinkle now. the additional wrinkle is pfizer or moderna. it now looks like they're not equal. we always speak about them the same way, but it now looks like moderna is better. is that true? >> you know, there are some data suggesting the moderna vaccine may sustain itself a little longer than the pfizer. it happens to be a slightly higher dose so maybe that's not a big surprise. we just have an abundance of good things here. when we started building this vaccine program here we thought we'd have one vaccine and we've got three. they're a little out of sync.

that's just the way it has to be at the moment, and it's actually a good thing we're not depending on a single vaccine. again, i think this is way science works. i'm sorry if people feel a little confused and frustrated. i will tell you i was one of the biggest skeptics in the white house about boosters, and i've become convinced particularly loo looking at the israeli data. because israeli is about three months ahead of us. they got most of their population immunized in april and they could start to see what happens. the people who got immunized back in january by to the time you got to july their protection would have really started to drop off and not just against any infection, even against severe infection. and that's the signal you want to say might be time to do a booster. there is some u.s. data from the mayo that also suggests the same thing, but let's look at that data on friday and see what the

group says. n much of that is very new. let's see what all the scientists and all the experts can come up with as far as a response. this is a good thing. this is the way we ought to be doing it. >> yeah, it's just people have an expectation it was already done and we were ready for a september 20 rollout and now you guys are debating it, which is fine. i've been saying all along on this show, doctor, and about you you guys don't make great messengers because you stay on the facts. and people aren't used to that. people are used to a government official named dr. collins who will come on and say no it will always be this and anyone who says anything else is wrong and we're confident. that's politics, it's not science. thank you for explaining the process. we look forward to clarity. >> all right, we'll try for that. and again, one of the other things to watch for is with the boosters are we trying only to prevent severe disease? but what about people who just get pretty darn sick with the

breakthrough and then infect other people? or maybe they just get long covid which we just had an announcement about here today. that's going to have to be discussed also on friday and then next week by cdc. >> you are welcome back to discuss what you guys come up with, and please take the invitation. >> i would be glad to anytime. >> dr. collins, be well and thank you. >> thanks, chris. now, i want to turn to something else. i've been doing this a long time, okay, and my background is mostly in crime and crime reporting. that's what i did in abc for years, all over this country and around the world. i've never been a fact pattern like i'm going to take you through tonight. it's a case in south carolina maybe in some kind of mob situations i've seen this much intricate death and mystery. but not in just some family in some small town life. this case in south carolina that involves the murdock family is

like nothing i've ever seen and it just keeps getting weirder. the once prominent lawyer alex murdock is at the center. his wife and son were murdered. there was an earlier potential murder now years earlier that may be in the mix. now there may be two. then he was shot in the head months later. now he's going into rehab, and the suggestion is that he setup his own head shot. and now there's a warrant for his arrest from something completely unrelated. and that's not all. there are breaking developments, and we are back with someone who's been closely following it all. again, i've never heard anything like it. next. exposed dentin to help repair sensitive teeth. my patients are able to have that quality of life back. i recommend sensodyne repair and protect with deep repair.

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again, it's i've never seen anything like this. this case gets stranger by the day and here's why. so you have alex murdock. an attorney. they've been like a generation of prosecutors down there. so now this guy alex murdock is an attorney police say confessed to ordering a hit on himself as

part of an insurance scheme. his attorney says now there's a warrant out for his arrest in the crime of insurance fraud which his attorney says he's a victim. his attorney says he's going to turn himself into tomorrow for that. we'll see. he's currently in rehab. the man murdock hired to shoot him is already in custody, this guy. he's a former client of murdocks twice over. he's facing several charges including assisted suicide and insurance fraud. he shot urdock in the head and somehow managed to have it just be a scratch. according to the affidavit murdock wanted to kill himicsel so the son could get the life insurance money. that son is the only surviving member of his family. you may remember the headline three months ago when his wife

and son were made by him. police still haven't made any arrests in the case and keep saying don't jump to any conclusions. now, i want to be clear. murdock found his wife and son and said i found them, they've been shot, they're not breathing. i never suggested he killed them. we don't know that. murdock allegedly told police he'd been depressed since the wife of his wife and son and it led him to addiction and he checked into rehab. but that's just one aspect to this story. there's all these other deaths, okay? please announced hours ago that they've opened a criminal probe into the 2018 death of murdock's former housekeeper of 25 years. supposedly she died by tripping over dogs and falling. but the death certificate says

nat natural causes. so what did the coroner say? never went to the coroner. so why did police reopen the case? could there be any connection to the death of murdock's wife and son? and by the way there are two other murders in this story. joining me now is a man who's been following the details since the beginning. host of the murdock family members, impact of influence, good title. that's the podcast. welcome to prime time. >> thanks for having me, chris. >> now, this is the weirdest situation i've ever been a part of. not least of which is how much interest is being. you've been on it for a long time just to start with the immediate supposition. have you ever heard anything

like this and that's what drove you to look deeper? >> if you haven't heard of it, i certainly haven't heard of this kind of depth of tentacles that come from one family that have left death and destruction and connected to at least five deaths that we're talking to about right now. >> right, so you've got one back in 2015 of some guy who was found in the road. and now all of a sudden the state's looking at it again while they were investigating the mother and the son. the son killed somebody in a boating accident with the father in 2019. he got charged for that. then you have him and his mom get shot and killed, the father finds them. then he gets shot in the head by one of his ex-clients but he doesn't kill him. and now he's in trouble for that. and now they want to look into the housekeeper whose death certificate does not match the circumstances of her death.

do i have it right? >> yeah, well, most of it. the boating accident paul murdaugh was indicted on boating under the influence, and that never came to trial because he was killed. his father was right there at the scene or was add the hospital right away talking to all the other people that were on the boat, kids that were on the boat saying don't talk, don't talk. he was kind of controlling the scene is what the nurses and techs said in theirdes about how alex was and alex's father, too, were running around the hospital and making sure that no one was speaking to sled or the buford county sheriff's department. that's also come up he might be involved in obstruction of justice of that. ruled a hit-and-run but in the

depositions written the names come up 25 times or something. none of the murdocks were interviewed about that. law enforcement was very skeptical of it being a hit-and-run. but the pathologist who was the only one who ruled on it being a hit-and-run. >> a big aspect of this that drew your intrigue is the power of this family. murdock is not just alex murdock. there's generations of them. is he still there? all right, so let me do this. we're going to be reporting on this and matt is going to be a part of it. matt harris. he's been following it. you can go look at his podcast and you'll see what he's been able to piece together. it all resolves around that this one family. but how? we still don't know. now the latest chapter is where we are going pick up our coverage.

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sued murdaugh for wrongful death, was awarded half a million dollars, money they say they haven't received. now the family has new questions about what killed gloria. joining me now is eric blan, the attorney representing slaterfield's estate. it's good to have you, sir. thank you. >> good evening, chris. how are you? >> so what is your understanding as to how someone who allegedly tripped over dogs fell and died, got a death certificate that said natural causes and no investigation? >> well, if you're in charge of the solicitors office and you have the most powerful law firm in the county, one of the most powerful law firms in the state and you have a last name of murdaugh you probably want to get done anything you want to

plash. >> this is all second nature to you but everyone is getting caught up on this story. the murdaughs have a history since 1920 of having someone run the solicitors office until 2000 like 9, 6, 7. this guy, though alex murdaugh was never in that office, but you still believe they have influence over how things are run and prosecuted? >> he's also a part time solicitor, chris. he gets to prosecute cases when he wants. >> as a volunteer. >> it's more not quite a volunteer. if he decides he want to be on the prosecution side, he walks into an office, he hand picked his successor who was a classmate of mine and a very good attorney. but don't kid yourself. this is a murdaugh office. they control the civil court system down there. they control the criminal court system. they know all the jurors because

they've woven themselves into the fabric of the town. this is a very, very powerful family you do not see in many jurisdictions. >> what do you think happened to gloria? >> we'll find out. certainly there were questions by my clients because after she unfortunately fell she was airlifted to a hospital and she had a traumatic brain injury. she never was able to communicate with them for the next three weeks until she died. so it was alex murdaugh who told the story of she had tripped and fell down the stairs over his dogs. so they trusted him. remember this woman worked for his family for 25 years. she was part of the fabric of this family. and they trusted him, and amazingly, chris, he hand walked them to his best friend and college roommate to bring a lawsuit against himself on behalf of the estate. now, you know, as a lawyer 33 years i've never heard that

where you encourage somebody and take them to a lawyer who you hand pick and then have that lawyer bring claims against you. this was not a lawsuit. these were claims. so a demand was made by his best friend and a whole bunch of different types of insurance, primary insurance and excess insurance, they all contributed to a settlement. none of these settlements ever ended up in court except one, the one that's attached today our lawsuit for $505,000. it's required under the law if you have a wrongful death or survival case a judge has to approve these settlements. none of that exists in the court record. and our clients never found out that these cases had settled, these claims until it was printed in the paper by investigative reporters. and so they -- when they came to us thought, well, we were -- we

didn't get our $505,000. it turns out, chris, that the claims were settled for more than $2 million. and so my clients haven't seen dime one of $2 million. and it's our job to get them answers and get them their money back and we will. >> we'll stay on this situation. we're a phone call away. i'll give you my number in the break and we'll see where this leads. send my best to the family. >> truth is stranger than fiction in this case, chris. >> amen. okay, i want to go to break. i want to bring in two very important people. as you may have heard this young woman she's been missing for weeks after a cross-country road trip with her florida boyfriend. he's home and not talking about where she might be and she's never come back. her father needs help. i want you to listen to her father and stepfather and let's see where we can get answers next.

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