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welcome to a second hour of "360." a day before a hearing on pfizer's covid vaccine and whether the data supports the need for a third booster shot. they have been all over the place on this. there's a confusing difference of opinion sometimes. one reason, according to the head of the national institutes of health that the advisory hearing will be public so everyone can hear and see what's going on and hear the data. reports support the argument that people may need a booster over time. a new article in another journal says current evidence does not support the need for a third shot at this time. that piece was written by vaccine experts, including some
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from the fda and world health organization. of course, this hearing happens as president bush fights over businesses to require vaccines, something he discussed today. >> we are facing pushback, especially from some of the republican governors. the governors of florida and text as are doing everything th can. >> phil mattingly joins us. the administration has to be feeling pressure ahead of tomorrow's fda meeting given the president said he hoped booster dose rollout would begin monday. >> there's a recognition inside the administration that the president laid out a time line and the things they have seen since then has raised questions about whether that would actually stand. they will be focused on the fda meeting tomorrow. they will also be focused on the cdc advisory meeting scheduled for next week. that will determine more than anything else and instead of anything else whether or not
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boosters will occur. that's been something you heard from white house officials. even when the time line was laid out, when the president spoke on that time line, he always caveated with the fact it was up to the fda and the cdc for that time line to actually come into place. it's interesting. you talk to white house officials. they are frustrated that the political and turf battles have spilled into the public. this muddled the understanding about the necessity of boosters. what they weren't is regretful about laying out that time line. they believe the data they have looked at and made clear boosters would be needed at some point and they wanted to make sure they were ready to operationalize that process when the approvals game. this has been complicated over the last couple of weeks. officials maintain that they are glad they laid out that process. they believe boosters will be necessary at one point or another, possibly as soon as next week. >> this is not something i envisioned asking you or anyone. but what is going on with the white house and nicki minaj about covid?
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>> i didn't ever envision myself on your show talking about nicki mi minaj's cousin's friend's swollen nnether regions. she tweeted something that alleged some side effect to a vaccine that every medical professional that we have spoken to, that white house says they have spoken to, simply does not back up. it was inaccurate. it was not true. the white house in the wake of that tweet reached out at a staff level to her staff and offered a conversation by phone with a doctor. she tweeted that she had been invited to the white house and planned to come. that never happened. the conversation with the doctor though is interesting. what you haven't seen from the white house is an attempt to dunk on nicki minaj or attack. they have done the opposite. they wanted to make clear there's confusion, concerns out there. you see it in the hesitancy,
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those who refuse to get vaccinated. they wanted to address that fact. when somebody has 22.7 million twitter followers, the white house wants to see if they can address that with facts and perhaps resolve or reconcile the clear differences. one thing is clear, there's no meeting coming any time soon, according to white house officials, with nicki minaj. the alleged side effects, there's no basis for them whatsoever, in case you were wondering. >> it would be great if anybody who has that big of a following would be willing to listen to a doctor and look at facts and do research, which she said i think -- somebody recently said they wanted to do more research. i'm all for research and data and facts. let's hope she takes them up on the offer. appreciate it. perspective from our chief med
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medical. can you walk us through what the fda is taking into consideration during tomorrow's meeting? what factors are they locking at when making a decision? three studies in the new england journal of medicine, this other in the lancet. the w.h.o. not for boosters. they want vaccines to go to a lot of countries around the world that are in need of them and don't even have one shot or two shots yet before even thinking about a booster. >> yeah. i think the equity issue is a big issue. aside from that, just looking at the data i think is what they're going to be doing at the advisory committee meeting to figure out the answers to four major questions. i laid them out here. there's going to be things they are going to want to address. the four major questions, how much is immunity really waning? we talked about this yesterday. there's studying that suggest it
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wanes but not in a linear way. pfizer had a study saying it wa wanes 6% every two months. how severe are the breakthrough infect infections? it can be somebody who has no symptoms. surprised their test comes back to positive. to people who have severe infections. what kind of severity are we talking about? does it break down by age? there's data out of israel saying people older, 65 and older, may have degrading of efficacy of the vaccine more so than younger people. how long does the booster affect last? that's a big one. are we basically just fortifying the wall really strong for a period of time and then it's going to wane regardless? that's going to be something the committee will look at. finally, how much do they really reduce transmission?
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we are talking about breakthrough cases. is that the right metric to be measuring in terms of deciding whether or not to boost? the answer to that last question will help dictate that. >> it was just about a month ago when top health officials from the biden administration laid out the september 20th booster plan. they did it so health departments could plan in advance. since the confusion since then, i'm not sure what's going on with the health departments. as the former baltimore health commissioner, can you talk about how much more challenging planning for boosters has become for local jurisdictions? >> it's challenging. especially with mixed messaging and the confusion that you mentioned going on, anderson. i actually think that it would have been worse if the white house didn't lay out some type of expectation earlier. we have had israel, uk, germany distributing booster shots. imagine the outcry if there had been no plan, even with evidence that some of the evidence suggesting that booster shots
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aren't necessary. we have some states like here in maryland that are ahead of the fda. in maryland, we are allowing individuals 65 and older who are in nursing homes and other facilities to get booster doses even now. what i hope the fda will lay out tomorrow, one, is i hope they will say, yes, it's true that we should get the unvaccinated vaccinated first, but that doesn't mean that those who are vaccinated should not be getting boosters. that increases their protection. i think there's a difference between saying that we are allowing for boosters versus recommending boosters. maybe they could say, we are recommending boosters for people 60 and older who are medically frail. ideally, allowing boosters for others who want them and who want that extra layer of protection would be a really reasonable and welcome step. >> a lot of the data, as it always has, has come from israel. can you talk about why that is. i think it's because of the deal they made with pfizer to get
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vaccines, they would provide data and access. is data from israel -- does that apply to what's going on in the u.s.? they have a higher vaccination rate and smaller population. i don't know if that matters. >> i think it's valuable. it's not perfect. but i think they are ahead of us in terms of vaccinations, 63% of the country is vaccinated. they started off strong. it's been interesting to follow their data. they started boosting. they have been boosting really since august. they are doing younger and younger age groups. i want to show you something. there's a living lab. it's worth paying attention to. let's look at what's happening in israel. you look -- very high vaccination rates, higher than the united states. even after they -- those vaccination rates and even after starting to boost, they have some of the highest seven-day average of new coronavirus cases. many of the patients aren't ending up in the hospital, they're not dying. that's good.
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they are testing positive. they are breakthrough cases. i think it's going to be an important piece of data if you are trying to say, look, we're going to boost because we want to cut down breakthrough cases, transmission. if you look at the israel data, i think from what i'm seeing, you would have a hard time making the case there. there may be new data, other data presented at the meeting tomorrow. if you say boosting will ultimately bring down cases, that's not what they have seen in israel so far. that may change. at least so far, that's not the case. >> to be clear, when you see that, you think, well, it looks like the boosters aren't having any impact. those are not hospitalizations and deaths. those are just cases. israel has a lot of data that we don't have. do we test the population like israel does? they know about the cases they have. we don't know if we have a similar spike. right? >> right. that has been a problem throughout this entire pandemic
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in the united states. we don't have some of the same data. they look at the cohort groups. large groups of people in certain places around the country. basically, extrapolate that data to try to get a sense of what the country looks like. some can be decent data. when you look at israel, they are doing a much more wide testing so they can get deep on what this means. it's an important point. the vaccines work. the hospitalizations and deaths are still low proportionally. >> something last night registered with me. when i hear about the percentage of hospitalizations -- it loses me sometimes. he was pointing out that the vaccine, it protects -- it gives you great protection for your lungs. you don't want covid to get into your lungs. vaccine protects your lungs. it may not -- you may get covid
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in your nasal passages and you are positive. it's not in your -- going into your lungs. that has better protection because of the vaccine. the bottom line being, you need to get vaccinated if you are unvaccinated. is that correct? i'm sorry if i paraphrased you incorrectly. >> i totally i agree with you that that is ultimately the reason why we get vaccinated. we get vaccinated to prevent against severe illness, to prevent from going to the hospital, ending up in the icu, in the morgue. there's other people who might say, if the vaccines can also reduce our likelihood of becoming carriers of infecting our unvaccinated children or other people or spreading the infection, that's a secondary but potentially important reason for getting vaccinated. that's why this is not just about the science, which is very important, but ultimately it comes down to values. i think this is why we are seeing this lack of clarity.
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people may be looking at the same set data but having different interpretations. >> did i get that right, protects the lungs? is that right? >> most of the immunity is in that part of your body. that's it's good at protecting against severe illness. >> thank you. i can visualize that. ta make that makes sense in my mind. we want to focus on the toll it's taking on kids and their families. we have had plenty of children in the hospital, in the icu, because one of their parents is on a ventilator somewhere else and the other is home taking care of sick children or sick herself. it's hard to think through that. i'm joined by the medical director of infectious diseases in texas. when i heard that, i think it's devastating. this is what you and nurses and hospital professionals see all
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the time. before this delta surge, did you see families getting sick with covid? >> i think it was different in january when we had our last surge. we didn't have quite as many children in the hospital. it just didn't seem like the whole family was sick as much as they are now. we see more where everyone at home is sick. >> how many more sick children are you seeing now? do you know where they are contracting covid? >> we are seeing in the hospital about twice as many children as we did per day during the january/february surge earlier this year. i always ask when i talk to them -- i talk to the parents usually, because the children are sick and don't talk. i ask the parents, where do you think it came from? where did they get this? they almost always say from school. sometimes they will say from the football team. sometimes they will say from a sibling who is in school.
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i think that's probably a pretty big part of it this time around. >> just the idea of a child in a hospital whose parent is on a ventilator and the other is home and they are alone, it's devastating. i don't know how you deal with that. >> you know, we have great people here who love these children. everybody is doing their best, like every health care provider in the nation. i think it's been hard, you know, to think through that and know what these families are going through. >> it seems to me there's a lot we don't know about covid in kids long term. do kids -- are they getting long covid? might they get long covid, which could -- could that affect the trajectory of their life? >> you know, i don't think we have had covid around long enough to know how long long covid will last. we know that children are getting long covid.
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some of them have a cough for months and months or shortness of breath for months and months. some have the brain fog. some have headaches or abdominal pain. we do see the post-acute covid syndrome or long covid in children. i think time will tell where we end up with these children, how long these symptoms last. >> we interviewed a woman in arkansas or alabama, i can't remember which. she said that her 8-year-old son had gotten covid. he was still sick. he had been sick for weeks. a long time. it had been bad. she didn't know where the daniel w -- the damage was. she wasn't vaccinated. she didn't plan on getting vaccinated. do parents -- i'm still stunned by that and i hope that's an anomaly. i'm wondering what you hear from parents after the children get better, for the kids eligible, do they plan to have them vaccinated? >> some definitely do. some say, yes, we're going right
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away. there are still parents who will say to us, i'm not sure. i feel worried about this. they are concerned it hasn't been out long enough. we do our best to just give them an honest presentation of risks and benefits. i do always say, you don't want go through this again. >> appreciate what you and your team are doing. thank you so much. >> thank you. still to come, a lot of questions about the actions of general mark milley after the new book. later this month, he testifies on capitol hill. one of the senators who will have a chance to ask him about the final months of the former administration will join us. she wouldn't take questions as the former president's press secretary. now she's pushing a memoir with her own set of alternative facts, let's call them. we will discuss them with another veteran that was administration when we come back.
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breaking news tonight. nancy pelosi is defending actions taken by general mark milley during the last administration. new reporting, criticism about a phone call with his chinese counterpart and with pelosi about secure ing things. they feared the president could launch an attack. something speaker pelosi backed up saying they had serious concerns about the former president. senator, thanks for being with us. some of your republican colleagues say the general should resign. senator paul going further saying if the reporting is tree, he should be court-martialed. what do you say? >> this is what i call selective outrage for the republicans who
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show no indication that they want to get to the bottom of the insurrection on january 6, for example, though, as you mentioned, we will hear from general milley in person september 28. they will be able to ask him whatever questions they want. >> house speaker pelosi was asked about milley today. she said it wasn't a question of cutting him out. it was a question of what the checks and balances were on that chain of command. do you agree with her assessment? >> yes. there's a process before any nuclear attack can occur. general milley is very well aware of that process, even though i'm pretty sure the president did not think that there was such a process. he is very authoritarian. he believes the will of law doesn't apply to him. remember, this is in the context
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of the president -- former president pushing out the big lie about a rigged election before, during and after. i think it was very clear that he was very, very distressed, some could use the word unhinged. here is general milley making sure that everyone understood there's a process before anybody can press a button that would send a nuclear attack anybody's way. i want to mention, anderson, that these communications are pretty routine. i have served on the armed services committee for eight years. these kinds of communications with a country such as russia and china are very much a part of what we do. so that is a part of general milley's job. >> the headline that has been buried here in -- from out of the book, which i haven't read, most haven't read, is that the
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general thought the president of the united states was in serious mental decline. >> that's the book. we will be able to ask general milley what his assessment was. the way i look at his actions is that it is part of the communications that are really critical so that there are no miscalculations such as a nuclear bomb hitting a country because of a miscalculation. this is why even during the height of the cold war we had military to military communication with russia. >> i appreciate your time tonight. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> appreciate it. still ahead, is stefanie gr grisham trying to rewrite history? that's next.
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stephanie grisham is trying to rebuild her image. in an upcoming book, she says she didn't believe the election was stolen and she tried to convince the first lady to accept the results. text messages tell a different story. on november 5, after arizona's
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attorney general rebutted claims from the former supporters that voters had their ballots improperly disqualified, she forwarded the tweet to an aide and wrote, told you, useless. the following week, when the same attorney general told fox news there was no evidence of fraud that would change the results in arizona, she texted the same aide, such an ass. joining us to discussion, stephanie ann. it's been a while. >> it's all good. >> she had it seems a very close relationship with the former first lady at the time. she was chief of her staff. wasn't she? >> she was, anderson. she held many positions in the white house. west wing, east wing, residence. she was all around. >> it's ironic that the title of the book is "i will take your
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questions now" given she's the only modern white house press secretary to never hold a press briefing. i remarked about this during the time. she fired back i think something at me which i don't even remember. i don't know. i guess it's a double entendre. she's acknowledging she never took questions before but she will do it now because she has a book to sell. it's interesting to me that the administration or somebody -- i guess it was from the administration, gave politico her tweets or her texts. >> unless she's had an epiphany of conscience, i don't think there's anything new in the book that we don't know. there's certain levels of secrecy within the east wing that doesn't tell the west. the inner workings and dynamics of the two wings themselves have to do with the president and the first lady, their inner circle, which is very tight.
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as long as you go along with what they want to you say and do, then you are part of the trump team. that's what stephanie did. it's too late. >> it's also -- you saw this firsthand when you came out with your book. they turn on people who have been nothing but supportive of them very, very quickly. >> up fortununfortunately, they people who are not only supportive but want the best for them. people who dedicate their lives. so many have been prosecuted by them because they told the truth. i told the truth at a time when nobody else was. by doing that, grisham herself orchestrated the narrative that i got fired. she was very aware that i had said to her, you can't do this. i went to legal counsel. it didn't matter. if you are going to support the trumps, that means you are going to say exactly what they want you to say or else you are no
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longer part of their team. >> it's interesting to me, because that loyalty is not really repaid in kind. it's not as if they are known for going to bat for people even if it's against their interests. they seem very willing to cut and run when it no longer suits their interests. >> i think too many people are listening to the words they say but not the actions they're taking. their loyalty runs one way. it only runs their way. it's really unfortunate. you can be convinced, you can feel embraced by them. he is very convincing to millions of people, obviously. i myself fell for melania's friendship. i think there's a narrative that people follow, people want to hear, people want to see. the reality is, this is about the trumps and themselves. they are going to make sure to keep going as long as their base is following them and say and do whatever to keep them following.
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>> beyond snark -- go ahead. >> sorry. >> grisham was trying to facilitate overturning the election results. politico reports that she was approached by a lobbyist soliciting a $100,000 fee to try to prove election fraud in arizona, grisham forwarded the request to an aide and asked, any ideas? >> you know, anderson, anything goes there. there are no rules. the rules have been broken. our country is in -- we are struggling. we are looking for someone to lead. unfortunately, by breaking all the rules all the time, people are starting to wonder, our children especially, who are the leaders of today and who are the leaders of tomorrow ? we're not getting that now because of people like her who are willing to break the rules
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to stay within that inner circle. >> it's hard for stephanie to claim to be a truth teller now because she was a propagator of lies repeatedly when she held position of power in the white house. nowhere near as consequential. but she had a history of misleading the public. there was the time the first lady wore the jacket to visit migrant children being held on the border saying -- which had the thing on the back. she said, it's a jacket. there was no hidden message. that wasn't accurate. right? >> no. remember, i think i was on your show and we were speaking about it. absolutely. i had spoken to her right after that. i was in communication with her. i said, why did you wear that jacket? what was the significance? for her to say she won't have gotten attention otherwise. stephanie should have jumped on you. i said, i would have jumped on you and not allowed you to walk out. she said back to me, i will do
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what i want to do. the reality is that stephanie wasn't there to have melania's back. she was there as an ivanka loyalist. she started out in the west wing. i have a hunch -- i don't know if -- it's my hunch that this might be ivanka's next step for her bid for the white house. >> really? >> having stephanie do dirty work on melania. >> really? >> really. we will see. it's a hunch. >> thank you. great to talk to you. >> thank you, anderson. republicans in pennsylvania where the former president made false claims of election fraud approved subpoenas for personal information. the state attorney general says there's no way they will get it without going through him. he will join us next. like saving more every month. ♪ and that has carla feeling so confident that she can enjoy her dream... right now.
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republican lawmakers in pennsylvania have approved subpoenas for a wide range of
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data and personal information on voters. it's the latest move to advance a so-called investigation into the results of the 2020 election. pennsylvania is a key battleground state and where the former president had made baseless claims of fraud. democrats say they will fight the subpoenas. so does the attorney general josh shapiro. what is your plan to fight these? >> first off, anderson, let's look at what the subpoenas ask for. most of the information they are asking for is actually already publically available. confirming the charade that this really is. second, when you dive into the subpoenas, it's very clear that there is absolutely no legitimate legislative purpose to snooping on pennsylvania voters and demanding their private information, like you said, their social security numbers, driver license number and voter history. here in pennsylvania, we have very strict laws and
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constitutional interpretation that makes it very clear that people's information here needs to be protected. their privacy is paramount. turning that information over is certainly not legal. so we will fight it. we will take all necessary legal steps to protect the privacy of pennsylvanians. >> we saw some length lgislatorg to arizona to tour the phony audit there. it seems like this is just part and parcel of that. they are saying, it's necessary -- this personal information is necessary to get to identify voter fraud. there's no evidence of voter fraud. no one has presented real evidence of voter fraud. most counties in your state underwent two audits. >> yeah. anderson, i'm the chief law enforcement officer of the commonwealth of pennsylvania. we had less than a handful of
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cases of voter fraud. in each case, these were individuals trying to cast an extra vote for donald trump. we did not have the widespread voter fraud they are alleging. we had a free and fair election. we have gone through two statutorily required audits here in pennsylvania, which confirmed the results that joe biden won by just over 80,000 votes. i think it's important for people to understand that the person leading this committee and the person who is leading it before went to arizona to study the sham audit. before they went forward with these ridiculous hearings and with these subpoenas, they checked with one person, donald trump. they didn't check with the taxpayers, whose money they are spending on this. they didn't check with the people who were concerned and want them focused on real issues like covid and educating our kids and public safety. instead, they went to donald trump and asked his permission.
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it's a sham. it's something that i am going to stop here in pennsylvania. they will not get the personal information that they are asking for from the good people of pennsylvania. >> is there any real peril to handing it over to a senate caucus? >> absolutely. we have laws in this commonwealth that make clear that people's personal private information needs to be protected. in fact, our pennsylvania supreme court has held time and time again that the right to informational privacy here in pennsylvania is protected under our state constitution. just the act of handing it over to some of the senators is questionable. certainly handing it over to some third party organization that these republicans have yet to name who probably are going to be folks associated with the former president puts -- really violates the law in pennsylvania, violates our constitution and is something that certainly is not going to happen on my watch. >> it seems like it's an attempt
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just to show -- to make it seem like they are doing something, some sort of investigation on so-called election integrity, when in fact they're not doing anything because there's nothing they can do or to be done. when you push back and say, what is this election integrity? they come back and say, what's wrong with more transparency? if there's nothing to hide, why not hand this stuff over? >> right. i guess i push back a little bit. you used the word seem twice in the question. that's actually what they're doing. they are actually perpetuating a charade on the good people of pennsylvania at the behest of donald trump. they are spending taxpayer money on this. they are trying to compromise the privacy of the people of pennsylvania. that's what they are doing in order to keep faith and run anan
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errand for donald trump. >> wisconsin has authorized an audit. we have seen state gop lawmakers push for reviews in other states. do you worry about nationwide about our democracy? this seems to be the playbook they are sticking with as we head into future elections. >> every single hour of every single day i worry about our democracy. look, the good people of pennsylvania have been lied to by their elected leaders, elected republican leaders here in pennsylvania, lied to by the former president. those lies are dangerous. they're not just things that get talked about around the water cooler or on television. they are things that end up being a cancer in our democracy. they're things that don't allow us to agree on basic sets of facts and data and science that we need, for example, to beat this pandemic. they are tearing us apart. they are making people feel as
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though they will not be counted in our democracy. i'm fighting back against that. it's important to note, anderson, that they sued us over 40 times here in pennsylvania. first to make it harder for people to vote. second to make sure their votes didn't count. we beat them every single time. we will do it again with this sham audit. >> appreciate it. thanks so much. josh shapiro. a way to escape the political drama. that's what i discovered when i did digging into my mom's family for a new book.
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anything a family i tried to distance myself from much of my life. i didn't know much about the family that my mom, gloria vanderbilt, was born into in 1924. she didn't talk about her complicated childhood. when i was growing up, the vanderbilt dynasty with its palaces and lavish lifestyles had long since vanished. the vanderbilts were like ghosts, mysterious people from a past i wanted nothing to do with. after my mom died and my son wyatt was born in 2020, i began did wonder what i would tell him about the vanderbilts. whatdy hope he learns about the lives they led and the choices they made? i began going through boxes my mom had in her apartment. they were filled with photos and newspaper clippings, 130-year-old school books her father doodled in as a child, journals and letters from her mother and aunt, gertrude vanderbilt whitney. reading these i began to hear
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the voices of these people i never knew. they weren't one dimensional figures in a history book, they were complex, flush with emotion and desire. their inner lives far more compelling than their public pe personae would lead us to believe. the cunning and cruel cornelius vanderbilt. his statue stands outside new york's grand central station which he founded. his genius and relentless cunning enabled him to become the richest man in the world, $100 million in 1877. his mania for money would go on to infect generations of vanderbilts in different ways. his son, billy, mocked and discounted by the commodore for much of his life, doubled his father's fortune in eight short years, but subsequent generations began a spending spree the likes of which america had never seen. his sons, cornelius, my great grandfather, his brother, willie, their strong-willed and ambitious wives alice and alva,
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began building palaces in new york and newport. they threw lavish parties to show off their wealth and make the vanderbilts the kings and queens of new york society. their children's lives were shaped, for better and often for worse, by the money and the privileges it afforded them. there was my grandfather reginald, who inherited millions of dollars and went through it as quickly as he drank himself to death. his brother, my great uncle alfred, who died on the "lus "lusitania," sunk by a german u-boat, he gallantly gave his life jacket to a fellow passenger and went down with the ship. his sister, gertrude, when lived what was at the time a scandalous secret life. and battled my grandmother for custody of my then 10-year-old mom in a trial that captivated the world and changed their lives forever. >> here's the first movie of little gloria herself, frightened by the curious crowd, she flees into her aunt's car.
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money isn't everything. >> what i discovered in writing this book with historian and novelist katherine howe is behind the glare of cameras, the magnificent and temporary mansions they built, the private lives the vanderbilts were messy and insecure, complicated, sometimes irredeemable, but always fascinating. vanderbilt is the story of this family i knew, my family. it's the story of the extraordinary rise and epic fall of an american dynasty. it's the story of the greatest american fortune ever squandered. the book is in many ways a letter to my son. the vanderbilts may be in his past, but his future is his own to write. and maybe one day he'll read this book and understand why. yo u can get up to 60% off amazing hotels. and when you get a big deal... you feel like a big deal. ♪
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news continues. let's turn things over to don and "don lemon tonight." capitol hill is ominous. an urgent new warning from homeland security about the increasing possibility of violence, the so-called justice for 6 rally, which let's remember is in defense of the bloodthirsty