now. over 100 degrees, wolf. >> michael we'll stay on top of this story. thanks very, very much tonight our viewers, thanks very much for watching. you can follow me on twitter and instagram. tweet the show @cnn sitcom. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. "outfront" next, breaking news a key fda panel rejecting president biden's plan to start booster shots for all american adults approving boosters for people 65 and older and those with preexisting conditions. why? more breaking news a cnn defense department official reached out to china on the day of the january 6th insurrection and two days before mark milley did. what he called and what was the message? the fbi joining the search for the 22-year-old missing florida woman on a cross country road trip with her fiancee. he's not talking.

a police chief on the case is my guest. let's go "outfront". good evening, i'm erin burnett. breaking news, a major set back for president biden, laid today an fda panel voting to not approve a booster shot forall f all adults, only those 65 and older and at high risk and they voted against authorizing a booster shot for the majority of americans those 16 and older. make no mistake, this is a rebuke for biden and it stands in direct contrast from 30 days ago when he tweeted simple the second shot get your booster shot and he attached this video. >> early today our medical experts announced a plan for booster shots to every fully vacc vaccinated american, every six

months after your shot, get a booster shot. >> every singled a adulthood in america. that is not what is happening. this morning administration seemed confident the booster shots would be approved. >> i don't want to get ahead of the fda deliberations. the data i've seen, i believe strongly suggests that will be the case. >> and yet, it didn't happen. and even as the fda possible only approved boosters for people over 65, there is confusion and the cat may be out of the bag biez ecause biden wa definitive. every american gets one and you get one eight months after the second shot. 2 million americans received a boo booster dose of a covid vaccine and the recommendation will leave a lot of people confused as well as the biden administration rebuffed. phil mattingly is "outfront" live at the white house. this was a setback for the

president and he was clear what his experts recommended and everybody should get the booster shot but the evidence was self-inflected because they said that before the fda had voted. >> reporter: yeah, that's right, erin. the president and his top medical advisors were careful to caveat their timeline was contin get on the fda and cdc approving the booster shots but a process they made clear they would have to go through got more complicated over the course of the last couple weeks. moderna was expected to be in the vaccines up for authorization for a booster. there was not enough data for that. the scope and scale of what the president laid out as his intent of those eggligible in the firs week was windled down today given it would apply to those above the age of 65 and those in high risk communities. however, white house officials made clear this was less about a timeline for boosters and more about making sure that they were prepared, that they would be able to rollout booster shots when the recommendations

actually came. keep in mind, this is the first step of a process over the course of the next several days and white house officials say and have said repeatedly over the course of the last couple days because of the proposals they rolled out, the plan they rolled out, they will be prepared when the cdc advisory committee meets next week, assuming the fda approves recommendations today, they will be ready to roll out boosters for the smaller population as soon as the end of the next week. we've seen it spill out, the battles between administration and inner agency battles that have spilled out and caused frustration for white house officials. this wasn't necessarily what they laid out in the beginning and not what they wanted from the beginning but this is where they are and looks like booster will be available by the end of the next week. >> thank you. i want to go to dr. sanjay gupta and dr. jad. so sanjay, look, president biden made it clear after your second shot eight months later, get

another one that means americans not over 65 should get a booster now. that is not what happened today, right? it's not where we are. look, i'm sure a lot of people in the medical community have serious questions about this, doctors and nurses themselves because they were among the first vaccinated might feel okay, then i should be getting mine. that's not where we are. were you surprised by what happened today? >> i was only surprised because it seemed pretty preordained. you did hear this from the white house that this was happening. they even attached a date to it, september 20th. it did seem that and you obviously heard from dr. fauci, you played the sound from him. that really seemed preor tdaine. when you look at the data, people over the age of 65 at severe risk of covid, risk of severe covid, that data seemed to hold up. that's the data we were seeing for people under that age, i was not -- i just wasn't clear why they were talking about people

under that age who are otherwise healthy. it didn't seem like the data was there. let me show you real quick. when you talk about what was going on in israel, they talked about israeli data quite a bit. if you look at the overall vaccination and case rates, that i are very vaccinated. 64, 65% of the country have been boosting since august. their cases have never been higher throughout this pandemic. so will you use breakthrough cases as the metric by which you boost somebody? not if you look at the israeli data. let me show you in the united states it's been very clear throughout, you know, that if people in the hospitalizations, if you're looking at those numbers, the far -- the majority of those are people that are unvaccinated, that's the line at the top. a flat line at the bottom is the vaccinated people that end up in the hospital. very small population we're talking about and by the way, i'll share with you this, if you look specifically at the vaccinated hospitalizations, those breakthrough infections

you find the majority are over the age of 65. if you boost somebody, that would be the population of people to boost. >> so dr. jha, what do you make of how this played out? one thing that surprised me is hearing dr. fauci this morning, you know, he was pretty clear, right? i don't want to get ahead of the fda deliberations. the fda suggestions this will be the case and i understand, sanjay, you're laying out the data but dr. jha, it is a little jar jarring, i think for a lot of people that they kind of don't know what to do or what to believe. >> erin, thanks for having me back. dr. gupta is completely right about the data. the data is that people over 65, people otherwise are high risk should get a booster and that's where the fda panel landed and that was exactly the right call. you know, in terms of young healthy people, the data is just not there yet.

i suspect at some point they will need a booster. if you think about the eight-month math that the white house has laid out eight months after your second shot, most of those young healthy people probably got their second shot in april or may, they may not even be due until december or january. we'll have more data by then and see where things go. starting with high risk people make sense right now. i think that's really the group that requires it and i'm glad that's where the fda landed. >> so sanjay, when you look through this, there is also the question i mentioned the medical community because i know there is a lot of doctors and nurses who will trust the data and science but they feel like they may want a booster and then there is also how does one define someone with an underlying condition and i'm not 65 but i'm 63. this isn't just a clear cut black and white easy thing that they've given us. >> no, and there is going to be a little confusion around the edges like you're talking about. as you know, i think some 2 million people have already

gotten boosters because, you know, doctors or fpharmacists ae giving them. i don't think it will be cut and dry. we'll hear from the cdc and they will make the official recommendation. fda authorizes and the cdc specific recommends to whom the vaccine should go and may get at that definition more precisely who is considered at severe risk. i think health care professionals were part of the eua, as well, because the concern is if you get a lot of health care professionals sick, even if it's mild illness when hospitals are overwhelmed, that's a problem. so i think they may be included in the first group, as well. >> dr. jha, why do you think the biden administration did what they did? eight months after the second shot, get a booster shot? he saiding advised by his medical experts. he didn't go out on a limb because he felt like it.

there is a lot of fighting going on between the fda, the cdc, the white house. how concerning is that to you? >> yeah, so what is interesting about this is when president biden came out with that, you know, he had both dr. woodcock and dr. walensky, part of that decision making. there was a little puzzling why there is a bit of a disconnect. the advisory committee is an independent outside advisory committee. it possible the fda could still rule that they're going to authorize vaccines or boosters for everybody. that's still on the table. because they don't have to listen to their advisory committee. i think the issue is it's squishing whether they really need a booster or not. >> really interesting point, too. it's crucial that you say an advisory committee.

you know, usually the fda has been a rubber stamp but to your point, we don't know. nothing is normal now. sanjay, at the heart of this is a core question where this virus came from and the origins of covid and you talked to scientists who know the most about this, about whether the virus originated in nature from animals or whether no matter where it ultimately originated from, it actually came to people from a lab leaked from the lab. what did you learn? >> i learned a lot, erin, actually about the process. to start to work on a documentary like this, it was hard to get scientists to talk because so many of the people you'll hear from on sunday night you may not hear from again because this is so toxic. i mean, i knew that it was controversial and just about every scientist we have talked to have been receiving death threats. that stunned me.

really getting at what was the motivation and directions around this w.h.o. report, what was it intended to find, how exactly they go about doing their work and where does it leave us now in terms of further investigation with the lab leak theory? right now, there is a database that simply went missing in the fall of '19. the wuhan insuranctitute of vir has not allowed anyone to do an examination and even block work of people who were sick has not been reviewed by the w.h.o. it's remarkable to me how much there has been throughout this entire report. >> wow, that is incredible and just even when you say there, i think shows there will be a lot of new things people haven't heard and whatever sort of point of view they may have on this issue. i hope everyone will watch it. sanjay's special report, "the origins of covid-19 searching for the sources." thank you for your perspective. >> thank you. next, cnn obtaining a report that reveals some capitol police

had concerned about their colleagues on the day of the deadly insurrection so we have details after that and two blabl breaking stories with major implications for biden's policy. the united states military said it accidently killed ten civilians in kabul including children. and france calling the ambassador to the united states the first in modern times. we're learning of another call from trump's administration to china this time on the day of the deadly insurrection, two days before general mark milley's second call to beijing, w who was the caller and what was the message?

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chartoff. that's disturbing that one revelation and there are others but that one about the supervising officer. a senior law enforcement official directly involved in the planning for tomorrow's rally says this time quote, we're ready. do you think that on the law enforcement side at least the lessons of january 6th were learned? >> i think the lessons have been learned. there is warning. there has been coordination among intelligence and law enforcement agencies. the national guard will have a presence and standing by. there is new leadership at the capitol police and metropolitan police are on alert. i think there is much more manpower available and of course, they've got barriers up, which is very important in terms of preventing people from improperly entering the capitol. >> so on the political side, no lessons learned.

trump still stoking flames defending the rioters. last night he said quote, our hearts and minds are with the people being persecuted so unfairly, relating to the january 6th protests concerning the rigged presidential election. that's just yesterday. after months of saying things like this about the january 6th crowd. >> we love you. you're very special. that was a loving crowd. people are being treated unbelievably unfairly. secretary, how dangerous is he and his words? >> well, i think people are rightly concerned that this encourages people to come again in a ridiculous effort to overturn the election. let's remember police officers die and were seriously injured for politicians who claim to be supporters of the police overlooking police being killed or otherwise being seriously injured is a real deep co contra contradiction.

so i think this is not a good message. i do think, though, that there is now word getting out that perhaps some of the right wing groups will stay away because they're afraid they may wind up actually getting trapped. >> so as i mentioned, you, of course, worked under president george w. bush and former president trump's pact wrote former president bush eludes president bush terrorists are bigger threats than those who hate america. here is what he did say last week on the 20th anniversary of 9/11. >> in the weeks and months following the ne9/11 attacks i s proud to lead an amazing, resilient american people. when it comes to the unity of america, those days seem distant from our own. malign force seems at work in our common life that turns every disagreement into an argument and every argument into a clash of cultures.

so much of our poll itics has become anger, fear and resentment that leaves us worried about our nation and our future together. >> what do you say to trump trying to raise money off of, you know, taking president bush down? >> i will tell you i think the president bush's statement was essentially a perfect statement and a perfect encaptionlation of what it means to be a patriot and put the country first and someone that tries to make money of disunity is taking the opposite of a patriotic position. they are being disloyal to the country and to the constitution. >> secretary, appreciate your time. thank you for joining me. >> my pleasure. next, the pentagon today admitting it made a deadly and tragic mistake by targeting the wrong vehicle that killed ten

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breaking news, we are following two major developments on foreign policy with major implications for the biden administration. the united states formally admitting to killing ten civilians including seven children. after targeting the wrong vehicle in a kabul drone strike. they're saying quote it's a tragic mistake and in what is likely the first time in modern history, france is recalling the ambassador to the united states in protest of a national security deal it is calling a betrayal. alex marquardt is "outfront".

i want to understand. this is is after the attack tha killed marines and soldiers. >> they did, it was a tragic mistake but it was simple. they got the intelligence wrong, and now there are ten civilians from a single family who are dead that had nothing to do with isis. the intelligence we learned today indicated there was a car, white toyota corolla they believed isis would use in the next attack so they were tracking a white toyota corolla in the course of eight hours going from an area associated with isis today office of an ngo where they believed they saw men loading it with exposes. they now believe it was water. it was driven to a compound near the airport and there had just been an attack that left 13 american service members dead

and a u.s. drone fired the held fire missile at 4:53 p.m. local team tearing into the car of a 43-year-old father killing him and nine others. you'll remember, erin, a couple days after the strike, mark milley called this a righteous strike and today i asked the head how they went from righteous strike to what we know in this tragedy. >> we used a statement about six hours after the strike acknowledging the possibility of civilian casualty ies so we kne from the beginning. i think we still thought we had good reason to take that strike and it took us gathering the facts to change that. >> mckenzie also rejengcted the dec description of the reporter saying i would not qualify the entire operations in those terms. erin? >> now to france. it's a pretty stunning. recall of an ambassador from

france to the united states. they are supposed to a have big party tonight called off. they're calling it a betrayal. this is pretty shocking. >> they feel spurned. there are no two ways about it. this is the first time in modern history the french have recalled their ambassador from washington, the first and oldest ally and really for two reasons, the first is economic. as a result of this new deal between the u.s., britain and the u.k., sorry, u.s., u.k. and australia, they are losing out on $65 billion in submarine deal with the australians. the australians will get nuclear technology from the americans. they feel blind sided. they didn't know about this until the last moment. they're hurt. they're feeling spurned and this is remarkable when the biden administration wants to rebuild these relationships with its closest friends. we just heard from the white

house they said they regret the decision for the ambassador to be recalled to paris. they said we understand their position and will continue to be engaged in the coming days to resolve our differences. >> incredible spending months negotiating a deal to cut them out of it. it is at best humiliating. thank you very much. more breaking news, military official on the trump administration streaching out t china days before mark milley that under cuts the criticism, the call on january 6th was done in secret. we're learning the former deputy assistant called china, his counterpart on january 6th the day of the insurrection to assure beijing that the presidential transition would be stable, not to worry. two days before chairman milley's second call to his counter part, that was reported of course by "the washington post" bob wood wward and robert costa where he assured china. the january 6th calls would have

been placed under christopher miller and said he wouldn't have approved it but we're finding out there were multiple people making these calls. katy has breaking news of this. what else do you know about this call? >> yeah, there is two calls under scrutiny here. this is this october call from mi milley he says don't worry, the united states is not about to attack china and the second call that takes place in january two days after the attack on the capitol in which he sort of seeks to reassure the chinese don't worry, american democracy is stable, the united states is stable and everything is good. now, some critics have characterized these calls as having been done in secret. we now know certainly for the first call that was not true. that call was done in coordination with then defense s secretary mark ed esesper. that wasn't the case with the january call, either. what we're able to report is an official in chris miller's office in the acting secretary

of defense's office made his own call on the 6th of january that actually was prescheduled. it was the kind of routine call the penlt tagon expects to do i advance of any transition touching base saying don't worry, everything is going to continue to be sort of consistent even as we go through this transition period. now, i also spoke to chris miller today and he told me that in fact, he's not concerned about the january call. he said that look, that milley is perfectly within his authority to do that. what we've seen is what began as a story of allegations of insay bored nation is a story of bureaucratic protocol. >> thank you very much. appreciate it. i want to go now on the back of alex and katy's reporting to jon meacham who has written extensively about u.s. presidents and the military and

the host of "of it was said" sports podcast. the "wall street journal" has come out and said that milley said the calls that he made were perfectly within the duties and responsibilities of his job. as you look at this through history, right, we talk about calls of insay btreason and thi being thrown out there and john bolton, is there any comparison you can think of where joint chiefs chairman field so compelled to act to pri vevent possible war? >> the clearest example is in the letter part of watergate in 1974. the secretary of defense, so not a uniformed officer but james put out word any military order from the white house, any nuclear order would questionably be cleared with him. he was worried about an unhinged

nixon trying to do something to preserve his power. the more we learn about this particular episode, i think the country should be somewhat reassured if i may because why shouldn't we be talking to potential adversaries about states of readiness. one of the things that we know unquestionably from history is that wars tend to begin by mistake. it happens again and again and again. the spanish american war and the main was sunk, it blew up. the goal gulf of tunkin is not it was said to be. what he worried about is there is some son of a b that doesn't get the word down the line as orders go. and so i look at this sort of through that prism that in a

complicated world having someone like general milley in touch with people that might be our rivals, not as though we're in a strategically precarious place with china. this is not like the cold war, right? this is not like your tipping soviets to something you're doing and so i take it as the institutions of government actually working. i know the other side that some folks say oh, that's the terrible deep state but as your reporting is showing, it's complicated. >> it is. i want to ask this news about france. recalling the ambassador from the united states for the first time in modern history in anger. they're using the words betrayal that now the united states, the u.k. and australia will do this submarine deal and share technology and cut france out. they're losing a i lot of money but it's a humiliation and it's a big change. i mean, there is three months ago president biden and the french president emanuel macron

are arm and arm. you can see this from every angle. there they are arm and arm. macron saying quote, america is back. how big of a problem is this for president biden do you think? >> well, let me say about america is back, america is back and this is an example of that and france is worried at some level that they will be, as you put it, dealt out of the arrangement. this is a very important -- let's not let a french diplomatic distract us from -- this is a generationally important strategic announcement about our balance of power and our possibility of creating a global order against this massive country that's going to be our rival. we hope it will be a partner at some level for a century or more. so it's a very big decision. i remember in 2003 in the runup

to the iraq war and france was causing trouble, i was actually interviewing george h.w. bush on the phone and i said to him, it was a friday evening i remember and i said why is france being so difficult and bush said because they're france. you know, this is a national characteristic about pride. i don't mean to minimize it but i do think that what it tells us is that everybody understands the strategic future does lie in the pacific and that's what links the two stories you're talking about. >> certainly. it certainly does and does line behind the pacific where you see the u.s. and china, of course at logger heads increasingly. thank you so much. appreciate your time. next, the mayor of del rio, texas warning the situation in his border town is a nuclear bomb alarm. there are more than 12,500 migrants and counting under that bridge and the situation is getting worse.

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nothing we've ever seen down here. >> reporter: migrants, mostly haitians crossing the rio grande into del rio, texas from mexico. you can see at least three different spots where migrants are crossing over into the united states. men, women, children flocking to the area under the international bridge that connects texas to mexico where more than 12,000 migrants are waiting to get processed by federal immigration authorities according to the del rio mayo. [speaking foreign language]. >> reporter: this couple from venezuela says they spent two days under the bridge with their 4-year-old son sleeping in the dirt. on the dirt, you were sleeping on the dirt? they say they're fleeing political persecution and breakdown crying describing the toughest part of being under the bridge. she's explaining she would tell her son that the family was camping so that he didn't worry. >> this is setting the nuclear bomb alarm that this is no

longer sustainable, acceptable. >> reporter: the local mayor a democrat pleading for the biden administration to boost resources saying that at the current rate, it will take two weeks to process these migrants. and signs they're having to settle in are visible from the air. a makeshift camp is going up and the mayor says at least one woman has given birth. most of the migrants will be expelled or placed in removal proceedings say federal authorities who also say more resources are coming and that it's already providing water, towels and portable toilets. buses like this one with dozens of people are dropped off at this migrant shelter every day. this group is asked if they're vaccinated against covid. about half the adults raise their hands. some holding proof they got the shots. all this as the department of homeland security faces a series of challenges, including more than 200,000 migrant encounters last month, the abrupt

resignation of two top dhs officials and the resettlement effort and this sudden spike de >> these people are desperate to get here. >> reporter: a humanitarian crisis understand folding at the southern border of the southern united states. we have breaking news here out of del rio, customs and border protection just tweeting moments ago there will be a temporary closure of the international bridge here in del rio and the traffic will be rerouted to eagle pass, which is about one hour south of where i'm standing. according to the cdp tweet, they say this is due to the urgent safety and security needs presented by the influx of migrants in del rio. erin? >> unbelievable. rosa, thank you very much. rosa has been there and up looking in the air and showing it to you over the past days. thank you so much. breaking news, police at the

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telling abc. >> we want gabby to be safe. she's like a sister and my children love her. i want her to come home safe and sound. >> reporter: gabby petito's father wants more. >> she's a mother and she's got kids so i'm hoping that the pleas and the begging and the community and the, you know, entire planet knocks sense into h her. >> reporter: they >> it's only 10:00 in the morning but it rained all afternoon yesterday. >> reporter: they documented their journey on social media including youtube. >> all the alcohochocolate melt. >> it's a river of chocolate. >> you can't keep chocolate in utah.

not in july. >> reporter: petito's family last heard from her in late august. they believe she was last in the grand teton yellowstone area in wyoming. she spoke to her mother on august 30 on facebook, saying she was leaving and heading to utah. she was seen checking into the fairfield inn and suites. her last text was on aug 30, but the family said they doubt she wrote it. it said no service on yosemite. officers found brian's van at the home he lived in in florida. he returned home alone august 30 without reporting her missing.

petito's family reported her missing on september 11. >> we have never spoken a word with brian. >> reporter: police in moab city, utah were called to a possible situation caught on body cam video. >> what's going on? >> we're fighting this morning. some personal issues. >> reporter: petito described in the police report as confused, emotional and manic. at the officer's suggestion, the two separated for the night, one of the officers concluding the situation was a result of a mental health crisis. no charges were filed. northport police say they don't know what, if anything, the incident had to do with petito's disappearance. a lawyer for the laundrie family saying earlier this week they would not be commenting. petito's stepfather who was in wyoming looking for her, begging brian laundrie to help. >> this is the love of your life. if that is true, do the right

thing. you need to do it now. stop waiting. >> reporter: at this point multiple law enforcement agencies are investigating gabby petito's disappearance, including several fbi field offices. the denver office joining the field on wednesday. meanwhile they're asking if anyone saw interaction with brian or gabby or their van to get in touch with police. brian laundrie still at the laundrie home. >> gabby petito lived with her fiance. i understand you have officers at gabby and brian's home right now. what is happening? >> we received a phone call from the family's attorney, and they requested that we come out there and the parents wanted to talk to us. right now i don't know what that conversation entails. our team is still out there

talking to the parents. i can tell you that brian is not there, but the context of the conversation i'm not aware of right now. >> i understand you're telling me as much as you can, but i know there were protesters outside the family's home. it doesn't sound like you're understanding is they called to complain about that. they called because they had something to say to your officers, whatever that might be. >> that is correct. the protest was preplanned. we had gotten the information that there was going to be a peaceful protest out there, and that is just a coincidence that it's the same time that we're there. >> so when you said brian is not there, is he just not talking to your officers? in other words, it's just his parents, or is he actually physically not in the home, and if so, do you know why? >> he's physically not in the home, as far as i'm aware right now. we are strictly just talking to

the parents. >> is this the first time they've reached out to try to speak to you? >> that is correct, yes. >> it could be very significant. i understand, though, you're not yet sure because they're talking as you and i are talking. let me ask you one other thing if i could, chief. laundrie's sister did speak out this morning in an interview. just listen to a clip of what she said. >> we haven't been able to talk to him. i wish i could help him. >> i cooperated every way that i can. i wish i had information or i would give more. >> so obviously, chief, you know all of this better than anyone. there were ten days between the time brian laundrie returned home and the time gabby petito was reported missing by her own family. he never reported her missing. do you think her family knows more than they offered thus far? >> you know, gabby lived in that house, too, in northport.

so if brian returned without gabby, you would think people would be asking, where is gabby at? there had to be some type of conversation or dialogue with the parents and other family member. i'm a reasonable person, but i would believe that, yes, they do know something. >> it would certainly seem so. anything they know is something at this point. chief, just one other question here, do you know why brian isn't in the home or where he is? >> right now currently, i don't know where he's at right now. you know, he could be anywhere. i don't know. >> well, i appreciate your time and your being willing to talk to me. i know obviously you're in the middle of a crucial conversation with your officers and that family, so i'll look forward to talking with you about that. hopefully we'll know very soon, and god, we just hope for some kind of decent news here. thank you so much, chief. >> thank you. next, why are apple and

google caving to putin?

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cracking down on websites linked to navalny. according to the "times," they threatened to sremove them if i wasn't removed. thank you for joining us. don't forget you can watch "out front" anywhere on cnn go. anderson starts now. good evening, it is safe to say that no one tonight in the biden administration is saying thank god it's friday. for them it's been a brutal friday. in the space of just a few hours late today, the white house got unwelcome news on covid boosters and saw the secretary of defense admit that a drone strike in afghanistan, which was supposed to have targeted an isis-k terrorist actually killed an afghan aide worker, two adults and seven children, and were, in his words, a horrible mistake. on top of that, they find themselves in a diplomatic war with america's oldest ally,