social media is not real life. and that has consequences. i'm michael smerconish in philadelphia. that may sound obvious, but it's not as clear to young adults and studies are showing that dissidence can lead to tragedy, depression, self-harm, suicide to name a few. i was thinking about this when watching the national news coverage of the disappearance of 22-year-old gabby petito, the happy, smiling pictures that we've been showing of petito and

the fiance brian laundrie drawn from the official media accounts. with all of the focus on laundrie's role, now, he's gone into hiding. all of this comes as "the wall street journal" is publishing a facebook investigation. one of its stories focuses on how its instagram app is harmful to teenage girl. the journal reports facebook will be studying this with three years with focus groups and diaries on the topic but it hasn't made the research public or done anything to fix it. among the finding that the journal reports from the internal documents and slides 32% of teen girls said that when they felt bad about their bodies, instagram made them feel worse. 1 in 5 teens says instagram makes them feel worse about themselves, among teens who reported suicidal thoughts, 13%

of british users, 6% of european users traced the desire to kill themselves. this is even more alarming once you comprehend the number of instagram users involved. more than 40% 22 years old and younger. 22 million american teens uses that gram every day. that's compared with 5 million using facebook. the generation that has come of age posting their lives publicly has suffered more mental health problems. psychology professor gene twangy. author of that great book. noted that 2012 marked the year when more than half of america had cell phones and this coincided with deep declines in teens actually hanging out with friends. dating, having sex. she's written, quote, rates of teen depression and suicide have skyrocketed. and since 2011, it's not an a

exaggeration to defined igen as being on the brink of the worst mental health crisis in decades. and she published a study on drug abuse founding eighth graders who are social media users increased their risk of depression by 27%. and another study included spending time on facebook and viewing facebook more frequently provides people with the opportunity to spontaneously engage in facebook comparisons of any kind which in turn is associated with great depressive symptoms. so, how might the gabby petito case relate? since her disappearance, the media has been playing endless images from instagram and youtube of her month's long van trip around america with her childhood sweetheart and fiance laundry ri. they paint this i dillic picture of two attractive young people in love having extraordinary

experiences and lots of fun. on adventures to beautiful and even exotic locations. but what they don't show and what social media almost never shows is what was happening when things weren't going so well. so far, at least one clue has surfaced. this police body cam footage from august 12th when officers in moab, utah, responded to reports of disorderly conduct and encountered petito and laundrie as they were engaged in some sort of altercation, according to a report released by the moab city police department. petito told the officer that they'd been fighting over personal issues attributed to her ocd. lau laundrie said it started when he climbed into the van with dirty feet. >> we were fighting this morning. >> we've been fighting this morning, some personal issues. he wouldn't let me in the car before.

>> why wouldn't he let you in the car? because of your ocd? >> he told me i needed to calm down. >> report says despite a physical fight following an argument, both the male and female said they're in love and desperately didn't wish anybody charged with a crime. and separating for the clot, the officer described petito as confused. one officer wrote, after evaluating the circumstances, i do not believe the situation escalated to the level of a domestic assault as much as that of a mental health crisis. the last communication was august 30th but the family attorney says they don't believe she wrote it. laundrie allegedly returned home september 1 to the home he shared with his parents. petito's family reported gabby missing september 11th.

an attorney representing the laundrie family said until a statement on tuesday that the family is remaining in the background on this juncture and will have no further comment on the advice of counsel. and now a report from the family that he has not been seen since tuesday. at least this much is concern, the picture painted by social media was not the whole story. and the dissidence between the happy videos and pictures and the actual experience of life on the road could not have been healthy for the couple. if she hadn't disappeared, with the police video coming to light, hers was just the sort of social media that would have caused others to be self-reflective, even invee use. and sadly now, none of us will ever look at her instagram in the same way. i want to know what you think. go to my web website @smerconish.com. answer this question, will concerns about instagram's

impact on mental health diminish its popularity? joining me now to discuss? ? technology reporter jeff horowitz who's been part of that great facebook investigation. and dr. jean twangy, doctor of psychologist at san diego university, and author of the book i referenced "igen." why kids are growing up less happy and less prepared for adulthood and what that means for the rest of us. first of all, jeff, congratulations. this series by your colleagues and yours is the phenomenal. there's a lot of news and i don't want it to be lost. sufficed to say, facebook and instagram, they know they have a problem, right? >> i think that's something that probably -- we should probably begin with congratulating the company for which is i don't know that many major tech companies have studied whether their product is healthy for the users as much as figuring out

how to get them to use it more. so i think that's a good start. the problem is instagram did do the work and it found pretty serious effects. and pretty much concluded as adam put it, there are no silber bullets, it seems to be problematic about its product. and it's going to work on them, but it doesn't necessarily even have great hope that it's fundamentally able to change the dynamic. >> well, here's what makes me nervous. you reference adam museeri, i have a clip of him making a car analogy that i don't think stacks up. kathryn, will you run that clip. >> i think anything used at scale is going to have positive and negative outcomes. cars have positive and negative outcomes. we understand that, we know that more people die because of car accidents but by and large, cars

create way more value in the world than they destroy. and i think social media is similar. >> i found that troublesome, dr. twangy. i need a car, i don't need instagram. i think the argument he was making is the end justifies the means. how would you interpret that? >> yeah. that's certainly what it sounds like. i agree it's not a great yanl sis, technology writ large isn't that good. but i don't think you can yet make that case for social media, especially because social media is designed to be addictive. it's designed to keep people coming back as many times as possible, for as long as possible. and we know from their own studies as well as outside studies, the longer a teen girl spends on social media, the more likely she is to be depressed and self-harm. >> do you buy into the linkage that i put between this case that has fixated the nation,

where we're all watching on a loop, these videos of this -- you know, your best life, being lived? you look at this handsome young couple on this exotic trip. and then you realize, wait a minute, the way in which they presented themselves through social media is not the reality, at least according to that police video. is that what you're capturing in "igen." >> yeah, i think that's one of the key issues with social media which is at face it's not honest. it's people putting forth a very unrealistic picture of their lives. instagram in particular. it's filled with beautiful pictures of beautiful bodies, often photoshopped. and it creates this very unrealistic picture of what your body is supposed to look like. what your life is supposed to look like. and that is a very difficult thing, especially when you're a teenager. even when you're an adult. even if you know on an

intellectual level this is happening, it kind of hits you emotionally, hits you in the gut when you think everybody else is on vacation, everybody else looks glamorous all the time when that's not actually narrated just the way it's portrayed on social media. >> i didn't realize the ease with this, there's a bikini side by side, put that on the screen. with remarkable ease, i can alter my appearance. believe me, i can use that technology on my gut. the question is, jeff, what are they doing about it? what are they going to do about it? >> those may be different questions. i think the car analogy is interesting because i actually would agree that social media does have car-like traits probably because it's going to be a permanent part of our lives and it is very useful. the question, though, what type

of social media? i think many things that instagram had a problem with, certain types of content, certain filters, things like that. and there are ways to still let people connect and follow each other and community online and be inspired that wouldn't be sort of feeding on the same stuff that has the same risks. so i think the car analogy is actually correct, right? absolutely, cars are essential, however, not everything needs to be a ford pinto. and i think the question of what exactly is safe and what exactly isn't, isn't something that we outside the company, have really had a chance to understand before. because the company has just simply said it's fine. >> mark zuckerberg was questioned by kathie mcnanmanis rogers in march of this year. roll that clip. >> mr. zuckerberg, has facebook conducted any internal research on the effect that your products are having on the effect of the

mental health of children? >> congresswoman -- >> say yes or no. >> i'm sorry, i believe the answer is yes. >> i find that cagey, jeff. i believe the answer is yes. if the time line of yours lines up against that for three years, he's been on the receiving end of sligde presentations along with the rest of the leadership being advised of the issue. >> so, yeah, exactly what mark zuckerberg is aware of is hard to say fully. obviously, some of this stuff was discussed with him. however, there's no question that the company was very aware that its product could have potentially life-threatening effects for some of its users. and i think that's something -- a company, for example, following up on that, they sent a letter to congress which they sort of were allowed to collaborate on that. that didn't say much in terms of serious concern where it said everything is conclusive. whereas the important thing

inside of instagram, they don't think it's inclusive. they made a report that we make body images diverse. >> this is the second biggest example this week. i'm equating this with the drone strike in kabul, but for the reporting of "the new york times" and cnn and others we would never have known, i'm convinced, what went on there. but for your reporting at the journal, we wouldn't know how facebook and instagram have been in the wlloop from the get-go about this. the final question, jean twenge, if i may, while we wait, what can patients and teachers do? >> great question. first, we really as parents, i have three kids myself, we shouldn't let our kids have social media accounts before the age of 13. that's actually the company's stated policy. you have to be 13 to have a

social media account in your own name. and just help regulate this for your kids. this is a challenge. we're all fighting this every day. so many people are around the country think i lack self-control. i'm on essential media all the time. we all feel that way because of products designed to keep coming back. imagine feeling that way as an adult. put yourself in the shoes of a 14 or 15-year-old. and realize this is very difficult to regulate. put parental control on your kids' phones. use them, say, okay, if you really want, really want to be on social media, you can use it a half hour a day, an hour a day, whatever you think is reasonable. that's the great thing. use technology to solve the problem with too much technology. >> jeff horwitz, jean twenge, thank you both. >> thanks, michael.

>> i love the technology. last night -- last night, i'm in my backyard taking a photograph up in the sky of the international space station, and what did i do with it? i put it on instagram. we grew up and compared ourselves to whoever was in home room. damn, i wish i were as handsome as he is. i wish i was as smart as she is. today, this technology allows this comparison to everybody on the planet. it's a lot for our kids to handle. what are your thoughts? tweet me @smerconish. go to my facebook bepage. this comes from youtube, teens are watching other people's lives instead of living their own lives. nancy, that was the point of jean twenge's book "igen."

they aren't having sex. i don't want my teens to have sex. no, it's not necessarily a good thing. people through phones are hey i'm talking to people i went to high school with. yeah, you're talking to them via the phone but you're not having a beer with them. that's the double edged sword. make sure you're voting on my website, smerconish.com. and answer the survey question, will concerns about instagram's impact on mental health diminish its popularity? up ahead, religious exemptions are becoming a common loophole between coronavirus mandates? i'll discuss with a doctor who says they're the next threat on the horizon. en you're on the la, they're right behind you. reunite with your team. go bowling.

my plaque psoriasis... ...the itching ...the burning. the stinging. my skin was no longer mine. my psoriatic arthritis, made my joints stiff, swollen... painful. emerge tremfyant™. with tremfya®, adults with moderate to severe plaque psoriasis... ...can uncover clearer skin and improve symptoms at 16 weeks. tremfya® is the only medication of its kind also approved for adults with active psoriatic arthritis. serious allergic reactions may occur. tremfya® may increase your risk of infections and lower your ability to fight them. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms or if you had a vaccine or plan to. tremfya®. emerge tremfyant™. janssen can help you explore cost support options.

subway®... has so much new it didn't fit in our last ad. like the new deli-style oven-roasted turkey. and new hickory-smoked bacon. it's the eat fresh refresh™ at subway®. there's so much new we don't even have time for this guy! but i'm tom brady! oh, and there's smashed avocado too!

ok, let's talk about those changes to your financial plan. bill, mary? hey... it's our former broker carl. carl, say hi to nina, our schwab financial consultant. hm... i know how difficult these calls can be. not with schwab. nina made it easier to set up our financial plan.

we can check in on it anytime. it changes when our goals change. planning can't be that easy. actually, it can be, carl. look forward to planning with schwab. schwab! ♪ hi. so you're the scientist here. does my aveeno® daily moisturizer really make my dry skin healthier in one day? it's true jen. this prebiotic oat formula moisturizes to help prevent dry skin. impressive! aveeno® healthy. it's our nature.™ try the body wash, too. as sweeping new vaccine mandates could force millions of holdouts to get vaccinated against coronavirus, there's growing concern that people may

try to misuse restrichs exempt religious exemptions to avoid employer mandates. many big corporations require the vaccinations but they must also under the americans with disabilities act and title 7 of the similar act offer exemptions to people either with a disability or seriously held religious belief that prevents them from getting the vaccine. however, no major religious outfit in the u.s. opposes vaccination. so what constitutes a sincerely held belief? according to rules held out by the equal opportunity commission, a religious belief doesn't have to be recognized as a national group. but it cannot be found in beliefs. and joining me now is dr. robert

clipson director of the masters program at columbia university. he's also the author of the ethics police. and wrote the times op-ed that caught my ed, the next threat on the horizon, religious exemptions from vaccine mandates. doctor, tell me about your patient who self-medicated. >> i had a patient that had terrible cancer and was told that it was treatable if she gets medicine. she decided that prayer alone and chinese medical prayer was going to help her. that is somewhat she had decided. and the cancer had taken over her body. i touched her stomach and it had boulders like rocks of tumor. an she died a couple months later. her religious belief contributed to her death, unfortunately.

>> and that is so darn sad, but we respect her right to make that decision. how has it changed, however, when it's a contagious virus in the middle of a pandemic? >> well, it also changes a lot. but we also believe as justice wendell oliver holmes said your belief ends where you yell fire falsely in a crowded theater. there were, for instance, muslims jihadists who said my religious belief is i should kill infidels. but there are limits on it. we don't say, fine, you have the religious belief you want to go and harm other people, go and harm other people. so there are limits in our society how far religious beliefs go. and judeo christian faiths say we should love our neighbors and help other people. and care for our parents and our children. and not getting a vaccine puts

these people in danger. >> well, how in the world are employers including the federal government, going to be able to sort this out? >> well, i think that we need to come up with guidelines. i think that the biden administration and state and local health departments, for instance, need to say, here is what can be done. rather than just check offer a box, yes, i want to have a religious exemption. or even providing a statement. because at this point, there are lots of templates online on how to get out of having a vaccine using a religious exemption. cut and paste this tension. i think having an interview with the person saying, okay, this is your belief. tell me about it. the problem is a lot of religious exemptions that people are claiming, and there's lots of them right now are based on myths. people saying all vaccines are made using fetal cells and i'm pro-life. that's simply not true. one vaccine, johnson & johnson

was developed using cells derived from fetal cells from 40 years ago. but those cells have been replicated thousands of times in the lab. and basically every other medicine that we take was developed using these same lines. every anti-biotic was developed using these lines. >> so where no major religion is anti-vax. i'm hearing anecdotally and most troublesome among health care providers that all of a sudden people are finding religion. it seems disproportionate, right? there aren't that many folks known to be following religions other than the major denominations suddenly asserting hey -- it reminds me in a plaintiff -- i've be trying a case and during the jury

selection process, i'd have a disproportionate number of folks claiming to be jehovah's witnesses who couldn't serve. respond to the disproportionateness if there one? >> people are using an excuse. i don't want a vaccine because of my political views i don't want somebody jabbing me in the arm but we need to remember by not getting the vaccine, we're putting others in danger. we have thousands of americans every day dying of covid. and we can stop this pandemic getting everyone vaccinated and i think religious exemption, a major problem in getting that done. >> aensome to that, pun intended. thank you, dr. klitzman. >> thank you very much. >> let's see what you're saying on my twitter and facebook pages. this comes from twitter. someone's religious beliefs

should be grant them special privileges in social construct that has outlived its usefulness. michael, you're making sense. like measles and mumps, it becomes required for it's your ticket to go to school. what's going to then happen when a parent says, oh, we have a religious exemption. my tolerance level for it is similar to yours. i want to remind you, go to my website @smerconish.com and answer the week's survey question. will concerns about instagram's impact on mental health diminish its popularity? up ahead, congressman anthony gonzalez of ohio, one of ten republicans who voted to impeach donald trump said he will not be running for re-election. of those ten, only four remain. plus a look at how redistricting based on the 2020 census could decide the 2022 balance of power.

smsmooths the look of fine lines in 1-week, deep wrinkles in 4. so you can kiss wrinkles goodbye! neutrogena® we strip in the community garden. i've been stripping here for years. i strip before take-off. breathe right strips open your nose for relief you can feel right away, helping you take in air more easily, wherever you are. is now a good time for a flare-up? enough, crohn's! for adults with moderate to severe crohn's or ulcerative colitis... stelara® can provide relief and is the only approved medication to reduce inflammation on and below the surface of the intestine in uc. you, getting on that flight? back off, uc! stelara® may increase your risk of infections,

some serious, and cancer. before treatment, get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you have an infection... flu-like symptoms, sores, new skin growths, have had cancer, or if you need a vaccine. pres, a rare, potentially fatal brain condition, may be possible. some serious allergic reactions and lung inflammation can occur. lasting remission can start with stelara®. if you've been financially impacted by covid-19, janssen may be able to help. you booked a spacious vrbo summer home, with a pool big enough for the most epic cannon balls. a patio that fits all the laughter, and a grill that awaits family from near and afar. but the thing they'll remember forever? the first of many vacations with their nephew. the time for getting back together is now. find it on vrbo. at capella university, we know the world is pretty smart. wicked smart. so we made flexpath smart enough that you can finish

the bachelor's degree in business you've started in 18 months for $18,000. that's smart. capella university. don't just learn. learn smarter. lactaid is 100% real milk, just without the lactose. so you can enjoy it even if you're sensitive to dairy. so anyone who says lactaid isn't real milk is also saying mabel here isn't a real cow. and she really hates that.

one big factor in the upcoming midterms, the long shadow of former president donald trump that became even clearer this week when one of the ten house republicans who voted to impeach him, ohio's anthony gonzalez said he will not run for re-election. trump's response, one down and nine to go. but there are other factors in play determining the make-up of congress historically. the midterm pendulum journally

sw usually swings towards those in the white house. the current majority in the house is a precarious 220 to 212. but in a new report, david wasserman cautions there are plenty of ways in which the next 14 months could defy past patterns or produce another surprising outcome. david wasserman joins me now. david, so great to have you back. with regard to redistricting, republicans have an advantage. i'm going to put a chart up on the screen that talks about how many districts they control. explain to everybody, why do they have the upper hand. >> well, look, republicans, got to draw the lines for a lot of state legislatures last time. and in 70% of the country, partisans control the process. and neither the supreme court nor congress has put guard rails up against gerrymandering. what that means, the majority party in each state can

annihilate the majority through gerrymandering. in ohio, republicans can draw 80% of the seats even though biden won 40% of the votes in 2020. in new york state, democrats can draw themselves 88% even though trump got 78% of the votes. there are going to be fewer competitive seats and that's going to make congress even mosh dysfunctional. >> can we underscore both parties do it? >> yes. >> okay. >> yeah, historically, yes. >> all right. that's redistricting. that's reapportionment and redistricting. and here's the issue you've made me very knowledgeable of, it's the self-sorting idea. i want to put on the screen a map of the country. progress of the country that begins in 2016, and ends in

2022. there it is, what are we looking at with a progressive increase in red and blue, but mostly red. >> over the last hcentury, we'v seen a self-sorting of the electorate, to the vast majority of americans living in partisan echo chambers. what that means over time, we've got an entire generation of kids growing up in the country with limited exposure at best to alternative points of view, both in terms of communities where they're growing up and the media that's present there. and i believe over time that's going to lead to increasing sectarian strife, rising political violence, as long as misinformation is so freely disseminated. >> in other words, there's a process taking place now that will redraw state legislative and congressional boundary lines. and politics are influencing that process. but those maps, they document how counties, the number of

blowout counties, where we don't redraw the lines, are increasing exponentially, so there's something going on out there. what do you think it is? is it osmosis? like you move into a blue area, you become blue? or the converse among reds? or what, a reticence to express yourself? explain. >> yes. i think what's happening, americans are choosing to live in places that are politically comfortable for them. where the vast majority of their neighbors and friends agree with political values. that's leading to a lot of red districts and blue districts where the primary is tamping out the re-election. we talked about anthony gonzalez in ohio. and the reality is trump's goal is to make it a personal nightmare and politically not viable to oppose him in the republican primaries in the district where is the primary is tantamount to election. i would be surprised if more of the three of the ten who voted

for impeachment are back in, by the way, i think lisa murkowski is vulnerable in alaska. and the republican party will be largely complete in 2024 by mitt romney and susan collins. >> if history repeats itself, where history says they'll gain, say hello to speaker kevin mccarthy. >> that's true, i think the odds are that republicans will take back the majority at this point. they only need five seats to do so. they could conceivably get that through the redistricting process alone. they control big states like texas and north carolina and georgia. democrats have the opportunity to gerrymander in illinois and new york. even though, the historical value out of the white house picking up a couple dozen seats, that's far more than the five that republicans need to make

kevin mccarthy speaker. and democrat, by the way, they've got more problematic retirements on their side as well. so the odds favor republicans. >> david wasserman, excellent. thank you so much for coming back. >> thanks for having me, michael. >> checking in on your tweets and facebook comments. this comes from twitter i think. what do we have? trumpism is very much alive and the gop will be destroyed because of it. joe z, this is bigger than trumpism. there were factors that gave rise to the election of donald trump that i think are similar to those that gave rise to brexit. and if your belief in sending me that tweet to think when donald trump is no longer a dominating influence on the republican party that these type of issues that we're discussing go away -- i totally disagree. still to come, legendary pulitzer prize winning columnist george will is in the on deck circle and ready to play ball. i want to remind to you answer

the survey the question @smerconish.com, will concerns about instagram's impact on mental health diminish its popularity? go vote. it's our nature.™ try the body wash, too. (vo) how do you know when you've found your team? whether you're winning, or just doing your best. when you're on the lanes, they're right behind you. reunite with your team. go bowling. (naj) at fisher investments, our clients know we have their backs. (other money manager) how do your clients know that? (naj) because as a fiduciary, it's our responsibility to always put clients first. (other money manager) so you do it because you have to? (naj) no, we do it because it's the right thing to do. we help clients enjoy a comfortable retirement. (other money manager) sounds like a big responsibility. (naj) one that we don't take lightly. it's why our fees are structured so we do better when our clients do better. fisher investments is clearly different.

is now a good time for a flare-up? enough, crohn's! for adults with moderate to severe crohn's or ulcerative colitis... stelara® can provide relief and is the only approved medication to reduce inflammation on and below the surface of the intestine in uc. you, getting on that flight? back off, uc! stelara® may increase your risk of infections, some serious, and cancer. before treatment, get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you have an infection... flu-like symptoms, sores, new skin growths, have had cancer, or if you need a vaccine. pres, a rare, potentially fatal brain condition, may be possible. some serious allergic reactions and lung inflammation can occur. lasting remission can start with stelara®. if you've been financially impacted by covid-19, janssen may be able to help.

(man) so when in doubt, just say, "let me talk to my manager." next, carvana's 100% online shopping experience. oh, man. carvana lets people buy a car-- get this-- from their couch. oh, how disruptive. no salesman there to help me pick out the car i need. how does anyone find a car on this site without someone like us checking in? she's a beauty, huh? oh, golly! (laughter) i can help you find the color you want. that sounds nice. let me talk to my manager. (vo) buy your next car 100% online. with carvana. ♪ payday, payday♪ ♪ ♪ monday, payday♪ ♪ tuesday, payday♪ ♪ wednesday, payday♪ ♪ thursday, payday♪ ♪ friday, payday♪ ♪ saturday, payday♪ ♪ sunday, payday♪ ♪ ♪ payday, payday♪ ♪ ♪payday♪

this may look like a regular movie night. but if you're a kid with diabetes, it's more. it's the simple act of enjoying time with friends, knowing you understand your glucose levels. ♪ what's the #1 retinol brand used most by dermatologists? it's neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair® smooths the look of fine lines in 1-week, deep wrinkles in 4. so you can kiss wrinkles goodbye! neutrogena® i order my groceries online now. shingles doesn't care. i keep my social distance. shingles doesn't care. i stay within my family bubble. shingles doesn't care. because if you've had chicken pox, you're already carrying the virus that causes shingles. in fact, about 1 in 3 people will develop shingles, and the risk only increases as you age. so what can protect you against shingles? shingrix protects.

now you can protect yourself from shingles with a vaccine proven to be over 90% effective. shingrix is a vaccine used to prevent shingles in adults 50 years and older. shingrix does not protect everyone and is not for those with severe allergic reactions to its ingredients or to a previous dose. an increased risk of guillain-barré syndrome was observed after vaccination with shingrix. the most common side effects are pain, redness, and swelling at the injection site, muscle pain, tiredness, headache, shivering, fever, and upset stomach. talk to your pharmacist or doctor about protecting yourself with shingrix. shingles doesn't care. but we do. george will brings the long view to america's turbulent current events. he's been writing a comment for "the washington post" only since 1974. won the pulitzer prize. his latest book, it's called "american happiness and discontents. the unruly torrent 2008 through

2020." and george will joins me now. the book is terrific. i hope you can see from my marked up copy how much i enjoyed it. i had a freshman seminar back in the day on conservatism at lehigh university. required reading, your columns, william f. buckley's got a man at yale, george will's wealth and poverty and a couple other books. today's conservative books and i don't refer to yours, they don't even have footnotes. what the hell has happened to intellectual conservatism? >> that's a terrific question, when conservatism began to grow after the second world war, began by a man named weaver. russell kirk's a conservative man, bill buckley's got a man at yale. and let by pat monahan, the

senator from new york to say in the 1970s that something momentous had happened and that the republican party have become a party of ideas. well ideas have gone on vacation in the republican party partly because they can't be expressed in twitter and new media that experienced by tuperation and venting and all the rest. this is why in a way, technologies have made the world safe. it's made the republican party captive to donald trump. >> you argue in the book, that social media which we've spent a lot of time on this particular program discussing today is actually good for the literary world. how come? >> well, it can give a great velocity to ideas. what it's done is made speech cheap, in the sense, in order to disseminate ideas in previous ages to large numbers of people, you had to own a printing press. or a broadcasting entity.

today, we've given unlimited access to inexpensive dissemination of speech. that sounds like a good thing. the problem is, there are no g gate keepers so if you're stark raving mad and overflowing with weird conspiracy theories, you, too, can send that stuff out in the eether. i'd like to pick up on what your previous guessed david wasserman said, he talked about the big sort in america. people living in their own silos and picking the media that are convenient to me. i read lot about parenting. when they get to college, they don't want freedom of speech, they want freedom from speech. they want safe spaces and bio response teams span across the campus to police discomfortable ideas and organizations. how did that happen? well, partly because parenting

now, they've taken the noun "parent" and turned into a verb are producing bubble-wrapped children, prevented from exposure to difficulty. superintended by helicopter parenting. closely until they get to campus. we're producing neurotic parents who think that given parental determinent, they can produce the perfect child that will go from prep school to princeton to goldman sachs, if they just do it right. the result is the kind of neurotic parents, stressed out children, fragile children, brittle children and it seeps into our politics. what happens on campus doesn't stay on campus. and what david wasserman just said to you is what we have is a country increasingly sorting it out, encountering one another, rarely, in terms of contrasting ideas, with the results that our politics becomes more and more bitter.

and loud. >> i accept what you say as long as you put in the role of technology. but you've set up something that i just want to read in our closing moment. my favorite column, among the 6,000 you've authored and i think i've read most of them begins -- doesn't begin. but contains this, the day after john was born, a doctor told john's parents that the first question for them is whether they intended to take john home from the hospital, nonplussed, they said they thought that is what parents do with newborns. not doing so, however, was still considered an acceptable choice for parents who might prefer to institutionalize or put up for adoption children thought to have necessarily bleak futures. who were john's parents? >> i'm john's father. he was born on my birthday, in may 1972. when he was born, the life

expectancy of down syndrome, down syndrome is a syndrome that produces they were considered hopeless, they were not given stimulation. next year john turned 50. works in the washington nationals clubhouse and gets up every morning, goes to a major league ballpark and has a better job than i've got. we are often told that there are limits to people's lives that are just wrong and it also goes to show how astonishingly america is open to improvement. >> thank you so much for being here. i love that column and a great book. >> thank you very much. still to come, more of your

best and worst tweets and facebook comments and the final result of the survey question. will concerns about instagram's concerns on mental health diminish its popularity? go vote. ♪ friday, payday♪ ♪ saturday, payday♪ ♪ sunday, payday♪ ♪ ♪ payday, payday♪ ♪ ♪payday♪ retirement income is complicated. as your broker, i've solved it. that's great, carl. but we need something better. that's easily adjustable has no penalties or advisory fee. and we can monitor to see that we're on track. like schwab intelligent income. schwab! introducing schwab intelligent income. a simple, modern way to pay yourself from your portfolio. oh, that's cool... i mean, we don't have that. schwab. a modern approach to wealth management. subway® has so much new it didn't fit in our last ad. like the new artisan italian and hearty multigrain bread.

it's the eat fresh refresh™ at subway®. it's so much new there's no time for serena! wait, what?! sorry, we don't even have time to say they were created by world class bakers! oh, guess we did! seriously?! my bad. [swords clashing] - had enough? - no... arthritis. here. new aspercreme arthritis. full prescription-strength? reduces inflammation? thank the gods. don't thank them too soon. kick pain in the aspercreme. real progress? when you're affected by schizophrenia, you see it differently. it's in the small, everyday moments. and in the places, you'd never expect. a little sign of hope. the feeling of freedom. and once these little moments start adding up, that's when it feels like so much more. it feels like real progress. caplyta effectively treats adults with schizophrenia. and it's just one pill, once a day, with no titration. caplyta can cause serious side effects. elderly dementia patients have increased risk of death or stroke. call your doctor about fever, stiff muscles or confusion,

which can mean a life-threatening reaction or uncontrollable muscle movements which may be permanent. dizziness upon standing, falls, and impaired judgment may occur. most common side effects include sleepiness and dry mouth. high cholesterol and weight gain may occur, as can high blood sugar which may be fatal. in clinical trials, weight, cholesterol and blood sugar changes were similar to placebo. so if you're affected by schizophrenia, ask your doctor about caplyta from intra-cellular therapies. lactaid is 100% real milk, just without the lactose. so you can enjoy it even if you're sensitive to dairy. so anyone who says lactaid isn't real milk is also saying mabel here isn't a real cow. and she really hates that. for skin that never holds you back don't settle for silver #1 for diabetic dry skin* #1 for psoriasis symptom relief* and #1 for eczema symptom relief* gold bond champion your skin

okay. on the subject of how do you know if someone using a sincerely held religious belief is legit? when they try to not get vaccinated. here's sean penn's answer sent to me. if the kids have a measles

vaccine that in its own should deny a religious status dodge. it's brilliant. right? if some adult says, you know, i have a religious held belief with kids vaccinated against other things? nope. time to see how you responded to the survey question. will concerns about instagram's impact on mental health diminish the popularity? survey says 86% no. that would be sad with more than 11,000 having voted. thank you for voting. see you next week. en you're on , they're right behind you. reunite with your team. go bowling.

trelegy for copd. ♪ birds flyin' high, you know how i feel. ♪ ♪ breeze drifting on by you know how i feel. ♪ ♪ it's a new dawn... ♪ if you've been taking copd sitting down, it's time to make a stand. start a new day with trelegy. no once-daily copd medicine has the power to treat copd in as many ways as trelegy. with three medicines in one inhaler, trelegy helps people breathe easier and improves lung function. it also helps prevent future flare-ups. trelegy won't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden breathing problems. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking it. do not take trelegy more than prescribed. trelegy may increase your risk of thrush, pneumonia, and osteoporosis. call your doctor if worsened breathing, chest pain, mouth or tongue swelling, problems urinating, vision changes, or eye pain occur. take a stand and start a new day with trelegy. ask your doctor about once-daily trelegy.

and save at trelegy.com. at capella university, we know smart comes in many forms. -good boy! -so we made flexpath the kind of smart that keeps up with you. with flexpath, you can earn your master's degree in 14 months for $14,000. that's the kind of smart i like. capella university -- don't just learn. learn smarter.

ok everyone, our mission is to provide complete, balanced nutrition for strength and energy. whoo hoo! ensure, with 27 vitamins and minerals, now introducing ensure complete! with 30 grams of protein.