>> we will continue to share more inspirational stories like the one you saw. tune in saturday at 8:00 p.m. eastern for champions for change, one hour special. tomorrow, you will see anderson's piece. right now, you get to see anderson himself. "ac 360" starts right now. good evening. an arrest warrant issued for brian laundrie after the killing of his fiancee. a live report. the revelations in the book "peril." we begin with the first steps by investigators trying to learn more about how this all led up to the attack on the capitol. the first step is a big one.

subpoenas targeting not just close aides but his very closest. who are the people facing these subpoenas? >> these are four of the former president's closest aides. mark meadows, dan scavino, cash patel and steve bannon, who is one of his closest advisors during his presidential campaign and then also served in a counselor roll during the early portion of the trump administration. these are a group of men that not only had trump's ear on a regular basis but also were around him and in conversations with those planning the rally that took place in front of the white house that served as the prelude to the january 6 capitol insurrection. it's clear just what the thinking is of this committee in terms of what they are looking for, that they are starting with this group to ask serious questions about what they knew in the events leading up to

january 6 and the reaction and response to it. >> do they shed light on where the investigation is headed? >> it does. when you read the requests that they sent to these four men about what they are looking for in terms of records. the reason that they are asking for the records and for these private interviews. will read from the letter to dan scavino, who is the former president's deputy chief of staff. the select committee has reason to believe that you have information relevant to understanding important activities that led to and informed the events at the capitol on january 6, 2021 and relevant to former president trump's activities and communications in the period leading up to and on january 6. that's just one example from the letter. in the patel letter, remember, he was at the pentagon during this period of time. of course, this select committee requested thousands and thousands of documents related

to communications from the department of defense and the white house as it relates to their response in getting the national guard to the capitol on that day. it shows that they are building not only a time line but also connecting the dots as to who was involved in the lead-up to the insurrection and then the response on that day. >> has there been any response from the four who were subpoenaed? it seems like they would be likely to try to fight this request. >> yeah. we have reached out to all four. this information just breaking within the last half hour. we have not heard any response from them as of yet. past practice is any indication as to how they will respond, it's likely they will do everything they can to fight these requests. the big question that we have now is executive privilege. do they attempt to use executive privilege as a reason to not appear before this congressional committee? the committee would argue that there is precedent for these type of individuals serving in

those type of roles to come before congress, because of congress' oversight responsibilities. there's no doubt, anderson, even though they asked for this -- they requested the record requests be fulfilled by october 7. the interviews are scheduled to take place october 14 and 15. there's to doubt that there's probably going to be a legal fight before we actually see any of these men come forward. >> appreciate the reporting. get perspective from former fbi deputy director andrew mccabe. what do you make of the move? >> anderson, it sounds like they are taking the first steps at conducting what will prove to be a very thorough inquiry. they are starting with trying to develop a specific understanding of all of the events and the people involved in them leading up to january 6. who said what to whom? who met with who at what place, at what time? specifically, getting to the question of what did the

president know? what was his involvement or awareness of those preparations leading up to january 6? then, of course, on the day of the events. some of the folks like kash patel has been rumored to have been on the phone with the president many, many times that day. there's a lot of ground that the committee could cover here to really peel back the onion on what exactly was the president thinking, what did he know was happening, what did he want to happen and what did he do to try to affect that result? >> how likely is it that they would actually provide documents or actually come to appear before the committee? >> i think you could say it's highly likely they will fight it. they will all have the benefit of good counsel. they will try to quotcloak themselves in every privilege they can think of. the consensus is it's hard for the president and therefore harder for his associates to

invoke -- to use executive privilege to completely put a stop to any of this stuff. as we know, the white house refused to invoke executive privilege to prevent the testimony of jeff rosen and his deputy a few weeks ago. i think the indicators certainly from the white house and from the legal side are that that sort of fight might fail in the long run, but the question,how long does that take? >> can the former president try to block the former aides from cooperating? >> he can. as we know -- i can tell you from my personal experience having to testify when i was deputy director of the fbi, the white house was always very willing and ready to throw the words executive privilege, even into situations where it didn't apply. the trump white house had a very expansive view on exactly what they could get out of the

executive privilege. i would expect they will take that same approach to this situation. >> do you think the committee would seek to hear from the former president himself? >> you know, that's a great question. i think if they are successful in talking to all of these folks, at some point it seems inevitable that they will make a request to hear from the president himself. that's a long way down the road. they will want to know everything they could possibly know before they ever would have a one in a 1,000 chance to sit down in front of him. >> thank you. there's breaking news in the killing of gabby petito and the disappearance of brian laundrie. there's a warrant for his arrest. we will be joined by john walsh. what details are you learning about in this arrest warrant? >> it was issued by the u.s. district court of wyoming. it is for unauthorized use of

devices following gabby petito's arrest. it claims an intent to defraud. what it alleges is that brian laundrie used debit card and pin numbers and charged upwards of $1,000. the dates here are key. august 30th and september 1st are the dates they are looking at. he returned home here to florida to his parents' house where he lived with gabby on september 1. it's presumably he would have been driving from wyoming, from their camping trip back here to florida around those dates, august 30th and september 1st. if this is true, that's why those dates are key. the lawyer for the laundrie family saying that, hold on, this is not about the homicide of gabby. this is for things that happened after her death. he is trying to put distance between those two things. >> what is the latest about the search for brian laundrie? >> once again, they were out here all day at the reserve

searching. they didn't have dive teams out. yesterday, they did have ten drivers. they had four swamp buggies. when the search teams can use the buggies, not only do they sit higher so they can see more from their perspective, but they can go into deeper water. 75% of this reserve is marsh. they need to get through water in their search for brian laundrie. they have 75 personnel out here today. 16 different agencies involved. still, no sign of brian laundrie today. they will be back at it tomorrow. >> is there new information about the police stop in utah? >> that's the stop that -- there is. that's the stop that took place on august 12th. now we know the city is investigating how police handled that dispute when they came upon gabby and brian on august 12th. we know now that they are looking into that. it started with that 911 call.

somebody reporting they saw a white van and a man slapping a woman. police responded. they put on bodycam. we saw the video. it shows gabby crying, brian showing them scratches on his hands. what police did that night was just separate the two of them. they said they didn't think they needed to do more. they separated them. we learned that two national park officers responded to the same call. one of them was a woman. she told a utah newspaper that she told gabby she believed that relationship was toxic and that she might want to re-evaluate. we know within a couple of weeks after that stop, gabby was dead. >> appreciate it. thank you. with us tonight, john walsh, host of "in pursuit," it airs wednesday 10:00 p.m. on investigation discovery. john, what do you make of this fbi arrest warrant for brian? to what extent could that increase the chances authorities find him? it gives them a reason to really

be out looking for him. >> i'm really surprised that it's taken this long to get the arrest warrant. there is no other person of interest. there is no other suspect. they found her body. i thought it would be issued sooner. i thought -- i've been a little critical -- you know how much i love police. 144 cops died in the line of duty last year. they have the toughest job in america. i was critical of the police stop. i'm glad to hear they are training. most cops don't know how to identify a domestic abuse victim. i looked at it with experts. she was shaking. he was dominating the whole thing. probably could have saved her life there. i'm glad to hear they are training them. i have said on domestic abuse calls, the most dangerous. they have a mental health specialist when they go to somebody's house. that's where a lot of cops get killed. >> that's interesting in your experience you feel there's not enough training to help police

officers identify victims in a domestic dispute. >> she was a battered woman. anderson, i have ridden with almost every big fugitive squad in america over the last 30 years. they go there in the most dangerous with the domestic abuse where the guy shoots the door or the cops talk to him and they get talked out of arresting him. two days later, or later that night, the lady is dead. cops for years have been asking for bet areter training. whether it's out on the highway or whether it's in a house. it's a dangerous situation. they need better training to say, this woman is a battered woman. gabby was crying, shaking. he was dominating. he convinced those two officers he was the victim. now we are finding out that they stopped not only that wonderful citizen that called 911 that generated that stop, but in other restaurants where he pushed and hit her, other people

saw that. i'm all for that police training. cops need all the training they can get and all the resources. the warrant, i'm surprised it took so long. i've been a little critical of the fbi and the police for waiting so long. i still contend, i was right. he came home with that van and then the neighbors -- i was on fox news yesterday when the neighbors came out. i was waiting to do the interview. they said, we tried to tell police that he bought that camper and he put it on his pickup truck. we saw brian working in the yard six or seven days out there. they went away on the weekend. the husband said, i was surprised that a couple with a tiny camper top would take a 23-year-old son with them. when they came back, there was no son. three days later, the parents filed a missing persons report. i thought that they covered his butt when they made the call on last friday. >> cnn has not confirmed that

detail at all. >> i should do this disclaimer before this every night. this is my opinion. i believe -- i know your lawyers are nervous. i've been doing this a long time. i thought that when they said he went to the reserve, the swamp on tuesday, the great mouthpiece that i keep calling the johnny cochran wanna-be. he told the police this fairytale, that he went to the swamp tuesday. the parents went out and found the car in the middle of a 60,000 acre swamp. put a note in there, brian, if you are going to hurt yourself, we are there for you. the parents got the car thursday. on friday, the lawyer called the police. i believe they aided and abetted, gave him more days. i think he took off before

gabby's parents filed the missing persons report. they gave him, in my estimation, eight or nine days to get ahead of the cops. when they said brian might be this the swamp, i'm sure that's a red herring. he never was at that swamp. they will never find him. he will not kill himself. he is too much of a coward. >> the fbi has not given any indication that they view the parents as suspects. have they? >> you have to wait. before they had -- he was a suspect of interest. before they had the arrest warrant, you have to respond to the fifth amendment. if he doesn't want to talk, they are fine. i think they crossed that line when they took him in the camper. that's my belief. nine days ago. dropped him off. i think it was in north florida so he could go across to alabama, texas and walk across the mexican border. i tracked so many guys in there.

>> you have searched for fugitives for a lifetime. if this guy isn't in this nature preserve, how far away, in your experience -- >> he's not. >> can somebody go? >> i will tell you. the lawyer covered tracks and called on the friday. i believe he had nine days. that's a big, big amount of time to get somewhere. i think the parents bought him burner phones. everybody knows about pinging towers. i think the fbi -- i'm sure they are smart enough to get the mother and father's phones and track what they were doing on that vacation. when they ping those phones and find out how far and where they got, that's where i would start looking for brian. last night on our hotline, we got 410 solid tips. all night, the fbi was going through them with my trained hotline operators.

they think 15 of those tips spotted brian on his way, on that west florida panhandle journey that i think he went on from the panhandle of florida, pensacola, over to alabama, louisiana. with all the chaos at the border -- you can walk across. i have ridden that border seven times with border patrol over the years. people walk across into mexico. that's easy to get into. we also had ten tips saying that people had spotted him on the appalachian trail. he thinks he is a hiker and survivalist. i would say for viewers and people listening tonight, keep your eyes open on the appalachian trail. we have caught a couple murderers there over the years. lots of low lifesfes and good people go on the trail. he would go in the woods and make it. he has resources. his parents, i believe, helped

him scrub the van, clean out the house. fbi didn't find anything in there. they prepared him for the run. they dropped him off. he went west. he went northwest, up to the florida panhandle like so many do. make that journey across and walk across the mexican border. it's a tough search. mexico is a huge country. people go all the way to el salvador, honduras. i caught seven guys in belize, 45 in mexico. i have spanish speaking operators. when the phones ring if he's in mexico, we will know he is there. i hope. >> in your experience, how often do you see people end up -- dying by suicide, taking their own life before being appr apprehended? >> those are people with a conscience. those are people that are mentally ill. they did something terrible. they don't want to face it. brian laundrie has done -- the family and brian have done nothing but evade police.

it's despicable. they prepared him for this run. he is an ego maniacal control freak. he is a coward. he beat to death a 95 pound wonderful young lady. my heart going out to the family. it would be great if he killed himself. no trial. they never have to sit there like i did and look at morgue photos. photos of her on the ground and stuff. if he killed himself, it would be great for the family. i gave this lawyer a tip before it happened. i said -- through the media, i said, bring him in. do the right thing. have him show them where her body is. then he can make a deal. now that he didn't bring him in and now we hunt him down, he is facing the death penalty in wyoming. his lawyer didn't give him good advice. now when they catch him, he is going to be fashion the death penalty. maybe the family will be in the jail at the same time he is. when this is all said and done,

the lawyer may hide behind privilege. but he made the call friday to tell the cops they thought he was in the swamp. he is not in the swamp. that was another red herring to add time. i think he has been ahead of the police. >> i appreciate your time tonight. thank you. >> you are welcome. the latest on the mass shooting at a grocery store in tennessee. we will talk to a woman who was there about what she saw. bob woodward and robert costa talk about their book of the trump administration's final days. why include the most advanced active safety system in its class...standard? because when you want to create an entirely new feeling, the difference between excellence and mastery is all the difference in the world. the lexus es. every curve, every innovation, every feeling... a product of mastery. get 1.9% apr financing on the 2021 es 350.

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children rushed the door, pushing three in front of her, dragging one behind her, falling on the ground and screaming at the children to just run, just run. a man out of the door at the same time that she came out and in a split second, i hear gunfire. four shots. >> you knew right away it was gunfire? >> yes. >> you are standing near the doors. what do you do? >> i turn around, go back towards the parking lot to my car. before i could get to my car, maybe five or six cars down the parking lot, i hear gunfire again. it seemed like a lot of gunfire in quick succession, pow, pow, pow, pow, pow, pow.

i just wanted to leave that space. i wanted to leave. >> that was coming from inside the store still? >> yeah. i was not inside. i was in the first doors. before i actually stepped inside the store, that's when i heard the gunfire. i was on my way inside the store and the gunfire happened. i immediately turned around. it didn't sound like anything else than gunfire. >> did it seem like the store was crowded at the time? >> the store is always crowded. that store is always crowded. a very heavily populated neighborhood. i usually go there a couple a times a week during my lunch break, walk around the store, things like that. >> how are you doing? after going through -- coming so close to that, how are you?

>> very shaken. very shaken. at that point, when i turned around to leave the store, at first no one was coming out of the store. and then i could -- at the other entrance, there were people running out of the store. i heard a lady scream that she believed someone had been hit. that was very harrowing as well. people were just driving haywire, backing out of the parking spaces, all over the street. the police had not arrived. i believe i saw the first police arriving at the store. by the time i got to the main street, i saw police everywhere. si sirens. i could see them on the corner

of side streets. i saw police cars going up -- going behind buildings, driving to the back side of the store. >> from the first time you heard shots, when you were on your way to go into the store, to seeing the police, how long do you think that was, a couple minutes? >> less than a couple minutes. >> interesting. i'm sorry for what you went through. i'm glad you are doing okay. shaken but you are lucky. i wish you the best. >> i thank you very much. we have more ahead. the former president's thinking in and around the attack on the capitol. bob woodward and robert costa are here to talk about the breaking news on the subpoenas and their new book "peril."

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the house january 6 committee issuing subpoenas for quartet of former president trump. sources saw and heard come together in the pages of a new book "peril" which we learned is

cited in the subpoenas. bob woodward and robert costa join us now. congratulations on the book. what is your reaction, bob, to the first round of subpoenas? how do they square with what the a aides and allies of the president were doing based on your reporting? >> the question is what happened and ultimately what did trump know. we describe extraordinary phone call between bannon and trump, right before the insurrection, in which bannon, who was the former top aide to trump, the chief strategist in the white house, he had been fired by that point, but as you know in the trump world, you go and then you come back, and bannon says to trump, we will strangle the

biden presidency in the crib. that is a foreshadowing, of course, of the violence that we saw the next day. they're trying -- they are working around the edges in a very logical way. now bannon -- what we have in our book, bannon has publically confirmed. >> robert, bannon is one of the of the people being subpoenaed. the book reveals how instrumental he was in the final days of the presidency. as bob said, by then, it was known that people who once were horrible could be advisers once again. were you surprised how much influence that bannon had on the president leading up to january 6? >> it's significant they were in such communication. this was not some kind of outsider occasionally talking to

president trump at the time. had you had bannon close to giuliani. if you read the subpoenas, they're trying to figure out, what was the president doing? there's all this conventional wisdom that's cal cified about him watching television in an empty west wing on january 6. it's clear, the committee is looking at january 5. bannon, giuliani, steps from the white house, talking to the president by phone after he met with vice president pence to apply the pressure to try to get him on the sixth to throw out electors. you see in the scavino subpoena, an effort to understand president trump's efforts later that night. there's a scene in the book cited in the subpoena saying that he was there later on january 5th, in the oval office, as president trump opened the door to the oval office to have the cold air come in. he kept the doors open to hear the cries of his supporters.

the committee wants to hear from the players. >> robert, that notion of the president watching tv, is it -- is that accurate from what you were able to find? >> it is accurate in terms of action. we have that scene in our book. the action before the 6th is so critical to understand the pressure being put on vice president pence. we revealed in our book and cnn has done great reporting on this how john eastman had a six point memo to try to get pence to throw out electors. had you mark meadows who got a subpoena, working on january 2nd at the white house in our book. all of the scenes show a selective picture of effort on the trump side to try to get the election to not go to biden. >> bob, in the wake of your reporting about examining legal claims, the former president

said, i spent virtually no time with lindsey graham or lee, talking about the election scam or as it is viewed by many the crime of the century. they should be ashamed of themselves for not putting up the fight necessary to win. again, he is attacking some of his staufnchest allies who debased themselves to suck up to him and play golf with him. it's a common theme. anyone who didn't support the president's attempts to overturn the election or didn't support them vigorously enough or long enough essentially gets the president's ire and black listed. >> yes. what is significant is lindsey graham, mike lee, two of the most pro-trump republicans in the senate, looked -- they got the written documentation.

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breaking news, the january 6 select committee subpoenaed four la loyalists to trump. biden white house is taking detailss to show what they were doing. all documents and communication within the white house, end quote, on that day. that includes meetings. we have with us bob woodward and robert costa, co-auco-authors o "peril." the fact that they are releasing information or considering it, that's incredibly significant.

we were talking about what the president and his allies were doing. can you just walk us through what, according to your reporting, they were doing on that day based on the book? >> well, a lot was going on. there was intensity in this period of november, december and january. what's interesting is this discussion in the biden white house about releasing this material. former president trump is likely to assert executive privilege. one of the things that happens in history, one president will say, particularly from another party, let's get out the dirt from the former president. then the lawyers will come in and say, mr. president, if you do that, then there's going to be another president who will come in and if it serves the moment, either politically or in

terms of the evidence, will release what goes on in secret in your white house. often, you find the president pulling back. i would not be surprised to see that happen. >> robert, i often think it's important to look at what we still don't know or what investigators want to know. there's so much now new detail in your book. what are the moments you would like to know more about? you talk about that meeting in the willard hotel of giuliani and scavino and others, bannon, the day before the insurrection. what are still unanswered questions? >> the unanswered question -- we tried our best to answer as many as we could. the looming question over this committee is, where is the nexus? where is the connection between crowds gathering outside on pennsylvania avenue, the war room set up with giuliani and

bannon inside the willard hotel and the president and vice president steps away, a block away at the white house? what was the level of coordination? we reveal, there were calls from the white house, president trump, into the willard war room. this was not just some kind of wall between the two sides. was there an extension into the protest? there's something the committee is likely to look into. what was the communication among those different key, pivotal groups on january 6? >> i think a lot of people who are exhausted by the four years of the prior administration, perhaps sort of checked out and are not as involved in following the what's going on as maybe they were during the former administration, the final line in the book is, peril remains. can you talk about, why does peril still remain? >> well, because as you know,

trump looks like he is running. he is going out and holding these rallies. my partner, bob costa, would listen to the recent trump rallies. they are extraordinary. he sounds like winston churchill. we will never give up. we will keep fighting. these are war speeches that former president trump is giving. you know, there's some things -- if you bear with me -- that we do know that are important about what went on in this period. the cia director appointed by trump on november 10 -- this is about a week after the election and one of the things trump did is fire secretary of defense esper and put somebody in who is going to be a trump loyalist.

this is remarkable. she was 35 years as a case officer. very, very tough reputation. said the following, we quote her on november 10. yesterday was appalling, when esper was fired. we are on the way to a right wing coup. the whole thing is insanity. trump is acting like a 6-year-old with a tantrum. then later when they have a meeting on iran and trump seems interested in conducting strikes, she says, this is a highly dangerous situation. we are going to lash out for his ego? you have the professional cia director who is in the business of assessing instability,

unstable leaders, saying what i'm quoting. >> bob, i will take issue with you of trump sounds like churchill. i'm not sure trump -- >> i think bob is saying he is taking churchill's language. stealing the rhetorical flourish. >> that's interesting. i have to listen to them. i have not. >> yeah. >> go ahead, bob. >> no, no, there's so much nonsense in the rallies that trump hold and then he gets to the ending, and it truly is -- >> okay. >> it is not something -- something to be passive about because it's very inspirational to his supporters. >> yeah. bob woodward, robert costa, again, the book "peril" congratulation, remarkable work. >> congresswoman jayapal pass

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day after talks at the white house aim to getting democrats on the same page on the two key bills in the president's agenda, there are signs or at least the sounds of movement. the president, as you know wants democrats to pass the bipartisan infrastructure bill while house and senate democrats reach agreement on a larger bill which would be passed under reconciliation with human infrastructure items, child care, prescription drug prices, climate change and more. they've been at it for weeks, as you know, with moderate and progressive democrats fighting over the timing of the house vote on the reckononciliation b. we began hearing a change from some of that party and then this afternoon house and senate leaders announced they'd come up with a way to finance what is ultimately agreed on. >> the white house, the house and the senate have reached agreement on a framework that will pay for any final

negotiated agreement. so the revenue side of this we have an agreement on. >> a framework, what does that mean? >> that means we are proceeding. we've made great progress and we're proceeding. >> no real details on any of it. joining us is congresswoman jayapal who chairs the progressive caucus. you have said you'll vote no on the infrastructure bill if the spending package doesn't pass. if democrats lose it all because you and others stood on principle would you regret that choice looking back? >> anderson, it's good to be with you tonight. the two bills comprise the build back better agenda that the president laid out for us in front of congress. and so when we met with the president yesterday he reiterated that he wants both of these bills and the deal that was passed when the bipartisan bill passed the senate was that

both bills would proceed in the house because we just cannot afford to leave behind child care, leave behind paid leave and not take on climate change, and so that is still our position. we will very happily vote for both bills as soon as the reconciliation bill is passed and then we will vote for the infrastructure bill and we intend to do that. we are this close and this close to getting it done and we're excited to deliver that to the president. >> i understand look, everything is a negotiation and you have to stand as long as you can in what you want, but if the only way to get the reconciliation package pass side to drop the price tag to $3.5 trillion to a lower number do you think it's worth it for americans to have a smaller increase in spending on social programs than no increase at all? >> well, let me be clear, we put out our proposal, the people -- the very few about nine or 11 people that have said they

aren't ready to vote for the reconciliation package have not given us any other offer. so the president yesterday said to that group and then he reiterated to us when we met with him that he said, if you want to -- if somebody wants to make this number smaller tell us what you want to cut, right? ultimately, what are you for and then let's figure out the price tag from there. that has to be the beginning of the discussion, and so far that has not come at all. >> that's a discussion you're willing to entertain? >> well, i just think our number is 3.5. if someone wants to cut something they've got to tell us what it is they want to cut and we all understand that we've all got to get on the same page and there are going to be things that conservative things don't want to vote for that we're going to have to put in here and that they'll have to vote for and there will be things that progressive democrats don't want to vote for, but they'll have to vote for it. so we'll have to come together, and i believe we can do that, but we're not leaving part of the agenda behind. >> right. >> and we're not taking the

urgency off of child care, paid leave, climate change. >> the 3.5 trillion number, if they come back and those conservative democrats come back with a different figure you are willing to perhaps negotiate on that? that's not -- >> i don't know what they're -- nobody's said anything, so i don't see any reason to negotiate against myself. i'm at 3.5. that's the number the president was at and that's the number the senate was at and if somebody wants to change that number you have to tell us what you're going to cut. i just don't see any reason to negotiate with nothing. >> yeah. >> so that's -- that's the important thing right now. we all know that we want to get this thing passed and we're going to get it passed, and it's going to be transformational investment, but we're not leaving anything behind. so we're not passing an infrastructure bill and then saying oh, there's no urgency to

taking on climate change or immigration or any of these other things. we are going to pass the reconciliation bill first as was agreed upon by the senate and then we are going to pass the infrastructure bill and pass it on to the president and we'll make changes transformational in people's lives. >> congresswoman jayapal, we will continue to watch. thank you very much for talking about it. >> thank you. >> right now the news continues and we'll hand it over to chris. >> i am chris cuomo, welcome to prime time. we have two breaking stories developing on our watch. first, the january 6th committee said it would not ask nicely and it hasn't. four subpoenas to trump's four horse mern, mark meadows, steve bannon and scavino and patel. a subpoena implies no wrongdoing on the part of any of those men. it's just a demand that they must come testify. why them? the chairman of the committee says all four had communications with the white house or were working in it or in the days