statement on twitter saying anyone who asks questions or challenges the hard sell is immediately censored on social media. the news continues. let's hand it over to chris for "cuomo prime time." >> welcome to prime time. we have new information for you on the gabby petito time line. there is bad information in circulation. we have it right. and we'll get it to you. first, high anxiety in our capitol. will the democrats hold a vote tomorrow even if there's a chance they can't get their own members in line to pass their bill? we are going to know in 24 hours. this is the biggest capitol cliff hanger of the biden presidency. let's go through it. the latest. speaker pelosi says tonight she does still plan to hold the vote tomorrow on biden's massive infrastructure bill. remember, you got that, and then the spending bill. we will talk about both of them. remember the timing. pelosi said monday was the day. everybody said it's not going to

get done monday. that was true. then she said, okay, thursday. that's tomorrow. now she's saying, okay, it's tomorrow but i have the right to move it again. why? she doesn't have the votes. however i argue to you the timing on this -- secondary. the main concerns are about the who, and the what. okay? the key fight centers around the $1.2 trillion bipartisan infrastructure bill. right? that's the one that passed in the senate in august. but a lot of house members don't like it. why? a lot of reasons. they believe it doesn't go far enough on a bunch of things. but the big thing is climate concerns. it's too light. so you will have tension that's twofold. the needed climate fixes, according to them, are in the spending bill. as well as what the spending bill is really about, the big-ticket items that biden promised in the build back better bill. right? they are insisting, therefore, that both bills go at the same

time. or they won't vote for infrastructure. how real is that? however, it's not their only position. they say, or we want assurances that if infrastructure is passed tomorrow, there will be a framework for a deal in place to complete the trillions in spending. hmm. so now is the question, who? who is holding it up? got to be the progressives right? they keep saying they won't haute vote on the bill tomorrow. i argue to you, no. the progressives are actually in line with president biden. these numbers are his numbers. these wants are his wants. and they are all wildly popular with you on both bills. and another reason i don't think you can put this on them. they keep asking the moderates in the house and the two key senators, manchin and -- cinema

give us assurances that you are on the bones so we can finish a deal in good faith. they have gotten none of those from the senators or in the house as far as we know. certainly with the senators. so much so that some are now referring to the two senators, manchin and cinema as manchin lynn ema. i say they will be soon be known as manch hen enim because they are sticking it to everyone here. manchin says he is not changing his mind before tomorrow. he says he won't support trend spending trillions or an all or nothing approach. that's boiler played. what are the specifics? what is too much? what do you want? he won't give a number, nothing that he will agree to.

does that sound right? that led the leader of the house progressive caution to say, no, it isn't right. the congresswoman says that manchin's kind of nebulous negotiating is creating more votes against the infrastructure bill. >> if we do have a vote then we will vote it down and continue the negotiations so we can actually deliver the entirety of the president's agenda. >> now that said, manchin is like an open book compared to senator kristen cinema, nobody seems to know what she wants. manchin is laying out on the table what he likes and doesn't like. with cinema, they don't know and she won't answer any questions about it. they say we believe she does want the build back better plan to happen this year. she's gotten tons of attention. she met with biden the other today. his aids two other times.

white house went to her to negotiation on the chill four times. all they can say is our consensus, she's in favor of the bill at some point. really? listen to her dodge questions. >> progressives are frustrated that they don't know where you are. >> i'm in the senate. >> i'm in the senate? that's the answer? since when do democrats act like that? i thought you guys were all about transparency and being out there. what do you want senator? weird to duck the question. the build back better act. let's remember why this is dicey for her. okay? expand the child tax credit. big arizona. medicare coverage, big arizona. housing community college more affordable. everywhere. everywhere. all of these things, they are very popular everywhere, especially in arizona. the issue is the price tag. $3.5 trillion. okay. it always is. so cinema and manchin say they won't support the price tag as

is. okay. give another number. i think there is another question that the senator is going to have to answer at some point. is this just about the price or who would be paying it? is senator cinema more concerned about her big pharma friends and corporate lobbyists that fill her coffers? i think that's one of the things. what does this all mean for tomorrow? let's turn to one of the most outspoken or straight talking progressives in the fight, congressman row channa, deputy whip of the house progress i have office. thank you for come back and actually making good on the agreement. appreciate you. >> chris, that was a great opening summary. i agree with it. senator cinema is being treated like a head of trait. i have never requested or met with the president in the oval office i have met with his staff. she met with him the other day. then she has a presidential delegation all going to her

office. we all want to know what does she want? she's a first-term senator and hasn't put out a framework yet. >> that's what i want to talk about but i have got to cover the base. what do you think happens tomorrow? >> i don't think there's a vote. this is not the progressive caucus whipping. this is organic people who want to make sure that we have an agreement to get people expansion of medicare, their dental benefits, vision ben gets fits, to make sure people get paid for child care. connor lamb in west virginia said this is popular, the president's agenda, community colleges, good for seniors. many house democrats want to make sure we deliver on that. >> one step sideways to talk politics. did pelosi make a mistake saying, we are doing this on monday in we are doing it on thursday is this did she not read the room right? >> no. she had no choice. because of cinema and some of the folks in the caucus they were pressuring her to create

this unofficial deadline. there is no deadline. senator manchin says let's continue negotiations in good faith. he wants to see common ground. fine, let's do that. why do we have to do this tomorrow? we can get to a good place in two, three weeks, we can sit down and negotiate. i don't understand, why is tomorrow some magical date? it doesn't trigger anything. >> here's what i don't understand. you are intraparty here. this isn't what mcconnell or what ted cruz will give you an assurance on, a heavy dose of modify with a mod couple of trust. these are your people. why do you think it is you can't get any read from one of your own in senator cinema about what will make this happen? >> i don't know. i mean we have 99% consensus in the party. there is one senator we can't get a read on. and i can't speculate about what her motives is. what i do know is usually when you have the president of the united states ask in your own

party for a plan, you oblige. as a freshman congressman or a freshman senator, you should have some deference to the broader goals of the party and the country. obviously, everyone represents their state, their constituency as an individual but politics is a team sport. it is frustrating. i have faith the speaker and party leader will prevail. >> i wouldn't ask you to speculate except for now. what going on with cinema? do you believe there is teeth to this she gets a lot of money from big pharma and corporations don't like higher taxes. therefore, she can't go for the bill. >> i never question a person's integrity without facts. i will say two things.

i don't know when she's doing this. from an optics perspective it is a terrible look. second, if she has philosophical disagreements, maybe she believes the pharmaceutical arguments at least put it forward. put a plan forward. so far what we are hearing is she doesn't want the raise taxes on amazon or big corporations even though they are not paying taxes. she doesn't want to raise taxes in my district, 40, $50 million. she doesn't want to negotiate medicare. what is her plan for revenue? she says she is for climate change provisions. what does she want? how is she going to raise it in then we can have a conversation. there is nothing there. >> now, what does this delay, this optic of disunit do on the right? because there is a move there to blow up the bipartisan agreement they have on that side. and my understanding, tell me is yours matches it is, look, they are weak. let's not give them the infrastructure bill. i know some of you phis like it

but it is better for us if they get nothing. pull back your support. do you believe this process might be increasing the chance that you lose the senate bill? >> i think it makes it harder to get bipartisan support in the house. i was talking to a republican friend of mine. i don't want to mention his name. he said initially there were about 50 republicans who were willing to vote for the infrastructure bill, and that has fallen to four or five. so it is hurting because you have got mccarthy whipping against any republican voting on this. and that's unfortunate. but all of this can be solved in 24 hours if we just come to a general agreement on the principles of the president's plan to help seniors, to help working class americans, to deal with climate change. and it's not going to be what ro channa wants. it is not going to be what the gop caucus wants. it is going to be what president biden wants. that seems to me imminently fair. >> still unfair to put this on

boyden and saying so much for him being the great lawmaker who everybody wants to do deals with who knows how to deal with congress people in his own party. >> the president is trying to do something remarkable, have transformative legislation for working class and middle class. something that has been ignored for 30 years with the slimmest of majorities. when fdr did it, he had huge majorities, even obama had huge majorities. i give the president a lot of credit. he's at the 1 yard line and there is one senator from arizona who is stopping us from really making a difference. that's why i am mad. it is not personal. it's we can finally do something in this country for people who don't have child care, can't afford college, seniors who can't get to a dentist. we can finally do something. this is why we run for congress, why we come here. we are one senator away literally from doing that. that's why i hope we will be able to get this done. >> remember, you don't need me to tell you this, but this is the state of play in the country

right now. if you guys don't get this done with the numbers that you have and the buy-in from the american people you are going to have problems in the midterms. you know that. congress ran channa, we are watching it every step of the way. you will keep having this platform to let us know what is happening and why. good luck doing the work of the people. >> thank you chris. another developing story. we have to now really focus on gabby petito's fiancee because it is all about figuring out who killed her. and he has to have valuable information. he spent the most time with her in and around when she died. okay? now, what do we know about him? he's disappeared. when? he came home without her. he then went camping with his family. now, let's stop for a second. did he tell them what happened? does he know what happened? and told them what happened, and they still went camping? that really says something on a moral level if that's true.

but what about the legalities here, and what about the fact analysis here? all right. there has been talk about the phone. he didn't have a phone. he left his phone. no, he bought a phone right before he left. what's the truth? and the truth matters on this point. and i have it, next. ♪ i had a dream that someday ♪ ♪ i would just fly, fly away ♪

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facts matter in everything. but you know n a criminal investigation when you are trying to figure out what happened and you are looking at circumstantial evidence and you are trying to figure out the right questions and what reasonable doubt looks like, it really matters. and we are getting a clearer picture of brian laundrie's movements in the days after he ronald reagan returned without his fiancee gabby petito up until the time he went missing. remember, why does this matter? why should there be any sensation of damning of him when

we don't know at all. because i have been doing this over 20 years and i have never had a case where somebody's loved one goes missing and they refused to assist in the search. there is something off about that that needs to be explained. if you heard that brian bought a new phone after his return, you were right. but when did he buy it matters. okay? and it is floating around out there that he bought it right before he disappeared. and maybe his mom bought it for him, right before he disappeared. so maybe they helped him disappear. no. here's what we hear from the laundrie family attorney. and we have not heard anything from the fbi to contradict it. okay? september 4, three days after brian comes home. he comes home on the 1st without gabby. 2, 3, 4 -- that's when he buys

the phone. it's a new phone, and it is the phone that the family says he left behind along with his wallet at their house when he vanished september 14. okay? so, that matters. materially. this isn't just a little detail. why? because if he got the phone on the 14th, i already spelled out for you how that smells bad. right? if he got it on the 4th now it doesn't seem like it was front loaded to help with the move. the fbi has possession of that phone. i will tell you another reason that the date matters. because if he got a phone on the 14th, left it at home, and then left, what does the fbi do with that phone? nothing, right, because who did he use it with? but if he got it on the 4th, which he did, now they have had two weeks of use with that phone.

and the fbi may be able to access numbers and other information that could be helpful to them, those two weeks. okay? now, however, we still don't know where he is. where does that lead the search, and the answers? for him to be gone weeks is not easy. remember, this is a guy who when nobody had any reason to be looking for him he was spotted all over the place w gabby and without her. nothing since. perfect guest, bobby which i cone, a retired fbi agent, attorney, forensic investigator. you couldn't check any more boxing that we need here. good to he sue again, bobby. first of all. >> thanks, chris. >> the analysis there of why the date matters beyond accuracy, do you agree? >> i absolutely agree. it could be very much the case where the lawyer they had hired initially told him that the phone he had while he was traveling with gabby the one we saw on the utah, mow ab police body cam, the lawyer probably told him that phone is going to

be taken by you -- if you want a new phone -- he probably went out and got a new phone because he knew the one that was traveling with when he was in wyoming and utah was going to be take tony him. >> he said to the cops in utah, i don't have a phone. i don't know if you remember that, on the video. who knows what is true or what isn't. he gets it on the 4th. he disappears on the 14th. that's ten days of data that they have on that phone. valuable? why? >> look, i have mapquest on my phone, other mapping -- google maps and things, if i am going to take a trip oftentimes i see how long it is going to take me and what route it is going to send me on and i can choose what route i want to take. if he was doing research on that phone as far as where he was going to go, routing and times and places are going to be in those mapping applications. >> also, it wasn't a burner phone. they say out there it's a burner phone. as we know, those are very limited device. this was a real phone, smart phone.

now. how does he avoid any detection for two weeks? people saw him all over the place? everybody is looking for him, his picture is everywhere. he's got the best in the business trying to find him. >> he had a huge headstart. has the number one thing. he had a number of days to plan his kind of getaway before anybody knew what was happening. right? gabby's body wasn't found yet. there were no charges lodged against him. he had probably some serious conversations with his criminal lawyer and his parents about what to do about the situation. and so he had that headstart. so when he decided to actually take action on whatever plan they had come up with, that was it. he had -- he probably put the means into place, if he got enough cash, you for example i would be looking to see if his parents liquidated any assets those first two weeks of september to provide him with any cash. so he probably had a plan put in place. when he was ready to execute that plan that was what was going to happen, he was going to

go under the radar? it was a big move if that's what it was, if he didn't just do what the parents say, he went hiking and didn't come back and he is in there in alligator land because the best thing that investigators have going for them right now other than gabby petito being killed and it being a homicide and their understanding of what the cause of death was was this knowledge of guilt of running. running created a lot of what they are going to use to build a case. we will see how it turns out. >> sure. >> bobby, i appreciate you very much. i hope to speak to you again and soon because i hope we have more information to go on. let's turn to a big decision in what is really a human rights battle for one of the world's biggest stars. free brittney to me has never been a celebrity story. we don't cover entertainment on this show. it's about why somebody's rights were treated so perversely. a conservatorship is a very

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now, these are not people who are, like, legal advocates, all right? britney spears has a huge fan base, the britney army, right, #freebritney is a big part of the energy around this situation. for us and for you it should be about the law and equity here, and what's fair because somebody who is young really had their life taken from them, their money taken from them for a long time. if it could happen to a famous person it could happen to any of us, right? today, big day. a los angeles judge suspended jamie spears, that's britney's father as deserve for of her $60

million estate. i can't believe it is not worth more than that. 13 years, the pop star has lived under the arrangement. we have only learned in recent months the extent to which her father controlled every aspect of her life which she described to the court as ef f'ing cruelty. the legal battle isn't over yet. why? her court appointed deserve for is still in place, the serve the device, the vehicle is still there. and new accusations that her father placed secret recording devices in his daughter's bedroom. let's bring in britney spears' former attorney. good to have you. >> good to be back. >> what's your reaction today? >> let's start with what the judge said, which is that the current situation is untenable. what was sad and ironic is that britney had the foresight and the capacity to understand that that situation would be untenable 13 years ago when she asked me to go to court and

argue, don't put my father in control of me. if anything, put in a private professional. but what britney and i didn't know at the time when i walked in the court is that the court had already put her under a conservatorship without any notice to her. so she had no legal right to engage any lawyer of her own choosing and got a lawyer appointed by the court she didn't choose who never advocated for her and instead sent saying, yes, your honor, jamie is doing a great job. for that yes, he earned $3 million. and he said jamie is doing a wonderful job for britney. >> why didn't the judge just remove him, remove the whole thing? >> the judge could have done that. what was really interesting is you had jamie's lawyers arguing, urn, terminate the conservatorship right now. which is very unusual, right?

very strange that all of a sudden jamie is saying, well, now i have heard britney and she says she doesn't want this and let's terminate the sk conservatorship and do it right now. and britney's lawyers said just suspend him and let's pursue the investigation. >> thank you. you reminded me. i want to play some of the documentary. they don't want him to just walk away. they want a pound of flesh for what was done to her. let's play some sounds. >> it really reminded me of somebody that was in prison. and security was put in a position to be the prison guards, essentially. the reason for the monitoring was looking for bad influence, looking for potential, you know, illegal activity that might happen. but they would also monitor

conversations with her friends, with her mom, with her lawyer, sam. her own phone, her own private conversations were used so often to control her. i know for a fact that jamie would confront britney and say, hey, why did you text this person? >> if true, trouble. but i have got to read a couple of full screens on this. jamie spears' attorney on this report. all of his actions were well within the parameters of the authority conferred by him by the court. his actions were done with the knowledge and consent of britney, her court appointed attorney and or the court. jamie's reports as conservator speak for themselves. the security firm firm speak for jamie spears on this report. mr. yes, ma'amy and black box connected themselves within professional and legal bounds and they are proud of their work

of keeping ms. spears safe for many years. jamie spears saying i have to be clean here, streisand because the court appointed attorney and or the court and britney all say i did well? >> let me say one thing. i don't believe for a second the court knew this was going on. the conservator actually has very limited powers. but what was happening here is that the conservator with the sort of wink and nod of her court-appointed lawyer were abusing those powers, manipulating her to believe they had far greater powers they they really did. there is no way. you can't put somebody on house arrest. can't spy on them. there is no way a court would agree to that. >> it is interesting. now the shoe is on the other foot. it is jamie spears who wants this to enas quickly as possible. and britney and her lawyer who want to keep it going so that they can fully litigate what was done to here. adam streisand, to be continued hopefully with you.

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we are the only developed country in the world who has access to the vaccine and is intentionally refusing to take it. to the degree that we are. think about that. here's what we know. most of you are in favor of vaccine mandates at work. even setting the politics of covid aside, we have seen that for other diseases.

t they just work. united airlines is case in point. it is even more true when it comes to this pandemic. they are looking at a 99% vaccination rate among employees. why did they do it? is it a win? what does it mean going forward? scott kirby, ceo of united. good to have you, sir. this is controversial because we are hearing about staffing shortages all over in all of these different industries. even in health care, entire states. because people don't like the mandate. you decided to do it anyway. why? >> well, we decided at united to do it because it was the right thing for safety. i have written letters to the families of every employee that lost their life to covid from time to time this crisis began. and once the delta variant picked up i started having to write letters again i spent time and just realized, i can do something to put an end to this. it is tragic. it is so unnecessary because these vaccines work. so we made the decision to do it

because it was just the right thing to do. instead of worrying about the complications, we decided we are going to do good. once we made that decision then the team figured out how to make it work, how to make it effective, how to get us to 9%. it was really about doing the right thing to stabilize and that's the number one priority. >> 99% is great. however, if 99% becomes a coefficient of losing a lot of staff, then that's bad for business. you say it's a win but you have got 500 employees who are going to have to go. 2,000 going on unpaid leave. why is that acceptable as a win? >> well, again, it comes down to the trade-off of saving lives. no matter how big those numbers were, saving lives would have been worth it. but those numbers at less than 1% of our work force that are going to leave. i wish it had been 0% but less than 1% is manageable in our ability to hire. ironically we actually have hundreds of potential ployees

showing up at job fairs. it wasn't intentional but it has become a recruiting advantage where we have people showing up and saying i want to work for a company that puts employee safety first, stands for something, doing the right thing. it has made recruiting easier at united. >> we have heard the opposite, that the mandates are making people sweat work force because they are choosing this perverse sense of personal freedom and they are not going to do it. you are saying that you have seen a recruiting bump after this policy? >> yeah, we have. i understand the concern that other businesses have. we had the same issue. you know, we had over -- less than 70% of our work force vaccinated when we put the requirement in just seven short weeks ago. now we are at 99%. i think this is the point. you know, if you put -- you said it recaller why, vaccine mandates work. you put the mandate in the you are not wishy-washy, you say here's the date and you stick to it, the vast majority of people

go out and get the vaccine. then we can just all move forward and put covid in the rearview mirror. >> you can, except we are leaving out a big piece, right? have you considered mandates for people who are going to fly on un united? >> no. we really think -- i think if that ever is going to happen -- it already has happened for international travel, by the way. but for domestic travel i think that's in purview the government. they have got more data, science, experts. really, this is about getting the whole population vaccinated. if every company will go out and do the same kinds of requirements that united has done and get to 99% of their work force, look, we are going to be there. instead of creating friction every time you get on a suckway or an airplane. i think this is what the administration has said, that the much more efficient way is to do it through employer mandates. that's why the government is coming out with rules to apply across the economy. i hope the rules are strict and

cross the economy and don't have wiggle room and outs. it will get us over the hutch, well past heard immunity and people won't be dying. >> we are having brawls over masks let alone the vaccine mandates. i understand your hesitation there. scott kirby, thank you. good luck going forward. >> thank you. all right, now, remember which business led the way with its covid response early on. the nba. so why does it suddenly find itself so divided over vaccines? star players, we seem to see an increase in them wanting to be involved in our social dialogue, but not on vaccines. mixed messaging. so is the league. let's bring in the man, bob costas to help us understand how the sport that came up with the bubble is now getting blind sided. next.

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so today, a guy from the right wing camp that brought us shut up and dribble decided he's going to support black athletes, those who have expressed skepticism of the covid vaccine or haven't gotten the shot. senator ted cruz tweeted, i stand with kyrie irving, andrew wiggins, bradley beal, jonathan isaac, #nba, your body, your choice. he's vaccinated, by the way, cruz, just so you know. the senator's comments come in the bake of lebron james confirming he received the covid vaccine despite being initially skeptical. important comments from a key player while the nba and other leagues grapple with vaccine hesitancy among athletes and what to do about it. speeb says billion 90% of nba players are vaccinated. what could the 10% of holdouts

mean for the up coming season. let's bring in best, bob costas. good the see you. >> by the way, when senator cruz says hats off, i stand with, that's further proof that when the crowd that says stick to sports makes that statement all it ever meant is stick to supports when you are saying i don't want to hear or i don't agree with. but if you are saying something i agree with, the microphone we want to hear. >> exactly. so lebron james, big voice, big presence says i was skeptical but i did the research. i asked the right people. it's the right choice for me and my family so i did it but i'm not going to use my platform to tell other people to do with their body. what down think? >> it's good he got vaccinated. he's had, i think, some missteps but by in large he's an admirable person personally and public intentions but he could

do so much more good in this case than just i'm vaccinated and it's not my place to tell anybody else anything. if he did the research, then that research also includes that virtually everybody who is hospitalized, seriously ill and virtually everybody who dies is among the unvaccinated at this point, and even though you can get covid if you're vaccinated, it mitigates the possibility of that happening. it mitigates the possibility of passing it on and it mitigates the possibility that you'll become seriously ill. all those things are beyond dispute unless you're in the dark recesses of the internet or someplace else other than cnn and a few other places on the cable dial. so that's -- it's beyond dispute if we're dealing in objective fact and if someone is influential and popular like lebron james and other nba players and athletes in other sports would come out and say i've not just been vaccinated but hey, do this, it's the right thing to do it could have a

practical effect. post tifr itive practical effec >> they spoke about things as controversial than this. what do you think it is about the? >> it may be some people and i'm only speculating here, some people in lebron's circle may have their own doubts about it. so perhaps he doesn't want to alienate some of those people. i don't know. including the 10% of nba players who are not vaccinated. now, it's worth saying that 90%, not only exceeds the general population, it's well past the point where president biden and everybody else with cdc would be thrilled. we'd have herd immunity. 90% is a good number. the nfl is at roughly 93% but you have situations where even if somebody doesn't become seriously ill, the if you have close contact you have to be quarantined and go on a short injured list. some teams can't practice at full strength and in the case of new york and san francisco,

there are city ordinances that say that you cannot play in an indoor situation, not outdoor but indoor like basketball. >> if you're gnat vaccinated. >> you can't play if you're not vaccinated. that means kyrie irving and wiggins. that puts them at a competitive disadvantage. >> shouldnba say you get vaccinated or you don't play? >> michelle roberts head of the nba's player's association and da morris smith, he heads the nfl player ease association, they both strongly advocate vaccines but say it's their duty until something is collectively bargained to protenct the right of those for whoever misguided reasons decide not to be vaccinated but then, when i asked what if in a new collective bargaining agreement or effort to open the present one the league sited extenuating circumstances this is in effect something like a clause we're

putting in here unexpected calamity and everyone should be vaccinated, they both expressed a willingness to consider that. >> the employees have to be. >> if you work with the players, you have to be. >> all the referees, coaches, everything. >> while i have you, i have to ask you something. >> okay. >> yes or no. >> yes. >> elih -- >> yes? >> elih and paton, the biggest gift to football watchers since john madden as a color personality. >> yeah, tony romo made a ripple recently. chris collins worth is excellent but it's different. it's sustained excellence over time and now this? and as the technology evolves, i think what is going to happen in sports is you'll get more and more alternatives. there are already little niches if you want to watch a game and be your own director and watch only from the end zone and a high camera, you want the audio or don't, it's only a matter of

time in a situation like a world series where fans always say i want my local announcer where the network will say okay, we paid all this money for the rights as long as you carry our commercials and we include your rating with our rating. >> can be whoever you want. >> you can watch and listen to whoever you want. this is really an alternative but it may be even though this is a business of invitation as you know and there will be i imit imitators, there is only one peyton manning and one combination. >> i know. the brothers' vibe. >> it's great. >> there is magic there. i hate it because it's up against me on monday and it's killing me. you at the olympics, the way you bring people into sport, the way john madden did it, the way the tnt guys do basketball. i think this is the next iteration of that. we'll see but i want your take. bob costas, always a pleasure. we'll be right back with the handoff. when did you see the sign? when i needed to jumpstart sales. build attendance for an event.

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these are interesting conversations we're having because whether or not your aware of it, this country is in the middle of figuring out who we are, what you're about and what it will mean going forward. let's keep the conversation going. thanks for watching me. time for the big show "don lemon tonight" and the big star d. lemon. >> so much on the line in washington. i mean, everything from if we're going to default on our debts, meaning america. if america is going to default. >> we won't. >> if we get an infrastructure bill and if it comes to vaccinations. i'm interested in what you're thinking about the nba players and them losing money, you know, when you -- millions and millions of dollars from not being vaccinated. >> well, look, the league has to make that move. i think they're afraid of pl