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sandy hook victims after routinely failing to comply with records request related. these default cases are rare in the legal world and they're related to the lies that jones has spread about the 2012 shooting. 20 children and six adults murdered that day. we won't repeat jones' lies here only to say that they were lies and horrible. nine families who lost loved ones filed lawsuits against jones. a jury will be convened to determine what jones must pay in damages. cnn has reached out to attorneys for the plaintiff in the case. alex jones' attorneys have declined to comment. the news continues. let's hand it over to chris cuomo for "cuomo prime time." chris? >> interesting aspect of default charges that ordinarily the relief sought is what's granted. that's the risk in not doing what you're supposed to do, in other words, defaulting, so we'll see. appreciate that. let's see if there's history on our watch tonight, my brother. this is a big night. i am chris cuomo. welcome to prime time. is are we going to see history?
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will president biden get the biggest infrastructure spending bill done ever, certainly since the new deal? does he get that and the largest spending bill ever on a raft of rescue money for working families that is popular everywhere, all places or faces? or does he get nothing, at least tonight? the progressives are now in charge of that party, often dismissed as the fringe, radical, socialist. they are in control. they are the stewards of president biden's agenda. the speaker has three hours left to unify her party around this $1.2 trillion infrastructure bill. and she is still signaling there will be a vote tonight. in fact, she's been optimistic all day. >> we're on a path to win the vote. think positively. >> how strong is the power of positive thinking?
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because pelosi said she would only bring the vote to the floor if she had the votes to pass it. and the progressives are being pretty clear about how any vote would go tonight. >> you're not worried about the caucus not voting the way you want them to? >> i'm so proud of our caucus. i've never seen our caucus so strong. >> no deal on the bill of the spending bill, no infrastructure. that's what the progressives are saying, and jayapal who you just heard, that is the head of the progressive caucus in the house. she put out a tweet that was basically a smackdown to the speaker, reminder her caucus, stick to the plan. pass both bills together. and to show how far apart this party is, you got jayapal here, right? you have josh gottheimer, who is a leading moderate. he's one of the problem solvers caucus. he says he's 1,000% certain that
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the infrastructure bill is going to pass tonight. are they in the same party? are they in the same universe? let's go live to capitol hill to chief congressional correspondent manu raju. manu, where are we? >> i just spoke to bernie sanders. he was in a meeting with democratic leaders to cut some sort of a zeal on that larger bill. he told me just moments ago if the infrastructure bill comes to a vote in the house tonight should be defeated. he's calling on progressives to defeat that bill, and he calls it absurd that there is late night deal making on this massive package they're trying to move and to expand the safety net. he said this has been negotiated for months. we shouldn't be working in the last minute before a major vote on this larger package. we should continue to discuss,
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get a deal and move both pieces of legislation together. that is significant. what the white house and democratic leaders had hoped was to get a deal to be signed by all the major players. and then sell it to the progressive caucus and say we're going to approve that $1.2 trillion infrastructure plan because we know a bigger bill will come forward. but bernie sanders just signaled, he said i'm not ready to do that right now. let's defeat the bill. that's a real challenge for pelosi, as she's pushing forward for this vote to happen in the house tonight. >> i have two questions, brother. it's interesting, because everybody is trying to put the stink on manchin, and it's bernie saying don't even vote for that bill tonight. was manchin and/or sinema in the
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meeting you're talking about right now between cinema and the white house. >> they were not in the meeting, but they did meet for about 45 minutes together. we know they've also been asking discussions with various white house officials through the course of the last several days, including today. so there have been communication back and forth, but they were not at that meeting. this was a meeting between chuck schumer's staff and white house staff, including susan rice. she also is on the house side of the capitol, trying to sort out an agreement. the house was supposed to back into session this hour. they've delayed it for the next hour. so they're still scrambling to get a deal. nancy pelosi is just not ready to pull the plug. >> let's talk about nancy. that was my second point here. people can say they like her, don't like her. it's hard to find somebody who knows the rules and knows how to use power and leverage within their party better than pelosi.
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so given how obvious the state of play is to bernie sanders, to j jayapal and mamnchin and many others, what are you hearing about the thinking behind this forced timetable by pelosi? >> she feels she has to do it because of the promise she made to the moderate democratic members. some of those moderate democrats may walk away from that larger bill, so they believe that they can get some assurances that that larger bill could move forward. that could be -- at least they can get this one victory tonight and get the second victory later on. the problem she's facing is something she can't really control. a lot of these progressives simply don't trust joe manchin. they don't trust kyrsten sinema. they needed all 50 votes in the senate, including manchin and sinema, to agree to that larger bill. that's where the trust deficit is coming from.
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you're talking to democratic members in the progressive caucus, they want that bigger bill approved in both chambers before they vote yes on the infrastructure bill. so even a framework, an outline of the deal that is signed off on principle, that is just the beginning of the process, and that is simply not enough for a lot of those progressive members. can she change their minds, can biden change their mind before tonight? it seems doubtful, but they've been working all day. we'll see if anything changes, chris. >> so it's fair to give a little bit of criticism about the timing, because making a promise to the moderates what, are they really going to walk away from the biggest spending bill ever? what are they going to have to show for the midterms? but it is not fair to say, oh, i guess pelosi has lost her touch or her power because she can't twist the arms of the progressives. they don't have a problem with her, and she doesn't have the leverage because it's about the senate.
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>> reporter: agreeing to that date, september 27 to bring up this infrastructure bill. she had to do that, because they needed to pass the first part, the budget resolution, which sets the stage for that larger bill. that had to be approved in the house. she had to agree to bring up the infrastructure bill by september 27. but i asked her today was it a mistake to make that september 27 agreement? she said no, it wasn't, because tomorrow, midnight tonight, funding will expire across the country. transportation program also expire. she said this is needed to extend transportation funding. but chris, the reality is, they could pass a schism simple ext for a couple of months. so this date has put them in this awkward position and they look like they're unable to govern and they're facing a lot of criticism for not being able to deliver.
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>> you are a fair and fearless questioner. have you ever spoken to a speaker or a leader and asked them if they made a mistake and they said yes? >> reporter: i can't remember. >> you can't recall, you mean. manu, do me a favor. get in my ear and let me know if there's something happening we have to update on my watch. democratic congressman ro khanna is on the democratic side of the party, very active. seen as a fair broker and it's been good to have him on the show. congressman, thank you very much for joining us again. >> thanks, chris. good to be on an an shuck filled day. >> does manu have it right? >> he does. we have a progressive meeting coming up. i spoke with senator sanders. here's the thing. progress seems to have been made today. at least senator manchin has offered a framework. i also hear senator sinema is engaged but we can't approve
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everything at midnight. we'll have to see what the framework is, we'll have to have progressive input into the framework. but if the deadline has created a forcing function to move the debate forward, that's good. i just don't expect that the bill is going to pass today. >> let's be honest, the timing, the urgency, the confusion. that's catnip for the media. will it happen, won't it happen? to me it's tertiary. it's not first, it's not second. it's like a third consideration. really, what matters here is what does framework mean? when you say -- because manchin will say, look, i told chuck schumer in july what my number was and what my concerns were with how you pay for this. that beyond what your tax rates are and what revenue you'll get, everything else is to him magic. it doesn't really exist, dynamic scoring and the rest. when you say you have a
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framework, what is that? >> i don't think we have one, we're working toward one, but i'll tell you what senator manchin did that's constructive. he said we need to repeal a lot of the trump tax cuts. that means he's open to raising the corporate tax rate. he's open to raising taxes on the very wealthy, he's open to raising certain capital gains taxes. you can earn $2 billion in revenue to start that. he's open to expanding the child tax credit, to investing in our seniors. there are areas of disagreement. i don't think we need to be mean testing these things. there are areas -- >> let's talk about that because a lot of people -- we don't use this vocabulary all the time. manchin says, i'm open to giving money, because people say everybody in west virginia wants this, they vote on culture issues down there, too.
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that's why trump won by 40 points. he says not everybody in this country is equal. not everybody in west virginia is equal. you must means test, and that, he says, is taking a look at who needs this kind of help and who doesn't, drawing a line and then figure out how much to spend. why don't you like that? >> for some things, i think it makes sense. if you're talking about the child tax credit to help working families, that makes sense to give that to working families. for other things, it makes no sense. for example, we don't means test school. when i had first grade, i had working class kids there and there were some rich kids there. it would be awful if everything was based on economic class distinctions. we would be more polarized. so when it comes to universal p preschool, i don't think that should be means tested. >> why should rich people get
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free preschool? >> just like rich people can go to public school. public school and public college ought to be universal. >> why should rich people get free college? >> because i want people to still go to public college. first of all, most of the rich folks go to ivy league schools, anyway, or other private schools. there have got to be places in this country, public schools or public colleges, where we have a mixing of economic class where everyone can go. there have to be some universal problems like social security, medicare. we're all in this together, chris, as americans. >> why can't you means test social security? just because you pay in, if you don't need the money, why don't you figure out a mechanism where you don't get the money because you don't need it. >> if you're paying tax over $250,000, you're going pay in a lot more to social security, but i think it's important as a principle that every american participate in that program. >> me, too.
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why don't you raise the cap, that would get you a ton of money. >> obama ran on that. >> is manchin in favor of that? >> i don't know. why didn't you get -- we had these silo conversations, manchin and sinema are talking to the white house or the progressives are, but why not get everyone -- have manchin, the progressives, the white house, the speaker in the same room. >> i don't know. why zdon't you get 50 of you gus and go to camp david? >> we'll have a framework and we should just get the key votes in one room and say where do we agree, where do we disagree and get an agreement. but tonight this is going to move us forward. what manchin has done is constructive in saying -- even sinema voted against the trump tax cuts.
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every democrat is on the record opposing those tax cuts. >> i've got to tell you, ro khanna, this is helpful, because you're explaining it in a way that will make sense to people who don't follow parliamentary minutia. but you don't believe there will be a vote today on the infrastructure bill. and who knows, maybe that's a good thing if it allows you to get more done. so good luck to you going forward doing the business of the people. >> thank you. thank you forgiving me the opportunity. >> thank you for taking it. stay with us, because ro could be wrong. pelosi may put out a vote any way. why would nancy pelosi -- i mean, strategists, why would she put something on that's not going to win. would that send a message she wants to send? i don't know. i've never seen her do that before. but that will happen on our watch. we are seeing the biden agenda face its biggest test, unfolding on our watch. what happens tonight could make
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a very big impact on his presidency and on your life. our political a-team on whether or not the democrats are doing this the right way, the wrong way, and what is likely to come as a result, next. stomizes car e so you only pay for what you need. how much money can liberty mutual save you? one! two! three! four! five! 72,807! 72,808... dollars. yep... everything hurts. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪
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as democrats scramble to break this stalemate -- i don't know if that's even the right word. they were not even in the same time zone about this. they were talking amount, but they were worlds apart on amount. bernie sanders wanted $6 to $9 trillion, then they came to $3.5 trillion, which they thought was a grand bargain, then you have manchin at 1.5. and that's not new. i don't care who tells you that it's new, it's not new. it's been around since july, and if you need proof of it, one of the guests we're about to have on brought it up weeks ago about where it came from.
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let's listen to this. >> what's the overall number on the budget bill? >> i think you'll have to find out what you're able to do through a reasonable, responsible way. >> how do you know it's not $1.5? >> we don't know where it's going to be. >> you just said $1.5 trillion is your number. >> i'm saying we look at the numbers if we have a tax code -- that's in the $1 trillion, $1.5 trillion range. >> it is about how do you pay for it and what he thinks. but manchin is clearly out of step with the rest of his party. he said, you have to elect more liberals because this is crazy liberal and i'm not liberal. so we've got your best here to analyze it. dana bash who you just saw sticking it to mamplg -- manchin to get that number out of him
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and paul begala. having seen this kind of game before, paul, have you had, other than maybe obamacare, democrats going at democrats and seeming like they're not in the same party as we're seeing now? >> oh, yeah, the biggest game. that's the oldest game in the democratic playbook. i was struck in your interview with ro khanna. ro is one of the smartest people in the caucus. listen to what he did. he wasn't blasting joe manchin, in fact, he was respecting him. he was listening. he heard the right thing. manchin is sending a signal here. he's saying i don't like the trump tax cuts, i do want the rich to pay more. i want to spend at least $1.5 trillion is how i hear him. people call it a top line, and i don't know what that is. what it is is a floor. the least that the democrats are going to get out of this is $1.5 trillion over and above $1.2
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trillion for infrastructure. this is going to be most remarkable win for progressives they've ever had if they can just accept it. >> it's like, take the win, dana, right? they really are poo-pooing that even if the numbers are what everybody wants least, it will be the most spending since the new deal, and almost all of it is in categories that the american people have said from everywhere and every level that they want. >> no question about it. so many of the democrats who were serving, especially in the house right now -- first of all, a good number of them have not done this kind of thing before. the freshman, and even those who are in their second terms, were not familiar with having and haven't been in office when there has been a president of your own party. where you had the ability to get things tone that you campaigned on. for them, what they argue is, we
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waited too long. we've waited generations. we kicked the can down the road and say we'll run on it the next election and we'll take a little bit now. >> now or never. >> i'm looking at paul begala. and i'm thinking of how far the democratic party has come since the dlc democrat, the moderate democrat bill clinton became president and he was campaigning and he governed from the center. now the democratic party is in such a different place. you sear jayapal, the progressive chair, talk about how just 4% of the democratic caucus who don't want this. i don't know if that is right, but she's not wrong that the moderates have either retired or lost. for the most part, what you have is the so-called moderate president. that's the guy they thought joe biden was, he's the one pushing this progressive agenda, and it really is remarkable.
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>> paul, you know i love you. i had you on the radio show today. you're a spin doctor, baby. this is a sea change for your party. your party is now controlled by the progressive wing. maybe you'll go back to saying liberals, you guys used to like that word. jayapal, forget about aoc. jayapal is the adult in the room who just told speaker pelosi, i hear you, and then she sent out a tweet saying, stick with the plan, guys. i've never seen a flex like that on pelosi let alone on any speaker. do you really believe this is status quo? >> no, it's not status quo. i think dana is right, as well. a couple years ago, hillary clinton is running for president. she proposed the biggest infrastructure plan in history. $275 billion. are you kidding?
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joe manchin has called for as much spending as the entire obama care package, plus the entire federal highway system. that's how vast this is. so on the subtabs that the progressives are getting the w. but if you look at the elections, the moderates have won almost every important primary against the leftists. new york city, the cleveland house district, the louisiana house district. the moderates have the better of the political argument and they're giving the liberals much more than the liberals realize. joe manchin is where bernie sanders was 10 or 20 years ago. >> i really do believe this is going to be a studied time in our history. we are seeing a pendular swing. do you remember -- with you, paul begala.
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the air oi -- era of big government is over. now it is bigger than ever. dana, thank you for getting that number out there from manchin. it's been out there for weeks. paul, we'll see what your party is about. if they blow this, it will be the most epic stealing defeat out of the jaws of victory we've ever seen. we'll keep an eye. thank you. again, this will likely happen on our watch tonight. that means even if it doesn't happen, because that's going to mean something about the state of play in that party. we have more breaking news. also on the manhunt for brian laundrie. there is a reason to analyze this. this is not just about morbid curiosity. we have to understand what doesn't make sense in this story, and there are two things.
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and her fiance brian laundrie. and we get a better sense of it before utah police pulled them over for a traffic stop. it's a long conversation. but i think it matters because the police ask about a mark on her face. now, watch and listen and then we'll discuss its relevance. >> is there something on your cheek here? did you get hit in the face? it kind of looks like something hit you in the face. then over on your arm, your shoulder, right here? that's new, huh? kind of a new mark? >> yeah, i don't know. >> can i see the other side of your face? so what happened here and here? >> i'm not sure. i was just trying to get in the back of the car and the backpack got me. >> so the backpack got you? so there's two people who came to us and said they saw him hit you.
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there's two people who said they saw him punch you, independent witnesses by moonflower. >> i slapped him. >> you slapped him first? >> i wanted him to shut up. >> how many times did you slap him? >> a couple. >> and his reaction was to do what? >> he grabbed me. >> he just grabbed you? >> yeah. >> did he hit you, though? it's okay if you say you hit him. we understand if he hit you, we want to know the truth if he hit you. >> i hit him first. >> where did he hit you? >> on my face, i guess. he didn't hit me in the face or punch me in the face or anything. >> did he slap you in the face or what? >> he grabbed me with his nail, and i guess why i was cut
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right here because i could feel it. >> why does this matter? one, forget about everything that we're looking at. it's an interesting look at how police deal with these situations, or at least this situation. everything that you just saw, if you talk to any expert, and you will hear them commenting on this and you probably have already. this is an abusive dynamic, okay? gabby is evidencing all the signals of somebody in a situation where she is afraid of getting brian in trouble, she is afraid of what that might mean for her, and she is aware of what happened, and instead of tell the truth, she tries to take the blame. that happens all the time. and the reason it matters is that if that is the dynamic,
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when police get involved in those dynamics, and then the two parties are separated, which happened in this one, it is not unusual for an abuser to become incensed at the loss of control and what they perceive as betrayal. so now when they get out of those hotel rooms and they're back together again, there can be a very ugly reestablishing of a control dynamic. what can that look like? let's get perspective from retired fbi agent and attorney investigator bobby chacon. bobby, i know this chapter and verse because guys like you have been teaching me this for 20 plus years. >> chris, you're right on the money with this one. you hear the officer say we just want the truth and he's trying to talk to gabby. you're not going to get the truth from a woman in an abusive
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relationship when the guy is 20 feet away. they have to be removed from there. bring them down, separate them physically. bring her down to the station, him somewhere else. and there are jus di jurisdicti. over 50% of women homicide victims are victims of an intimate partner. if there's a complaint or domestic violence call and one of the parties have an injury, the other party has to be arrested. they know that these partners tend to make excuses for the other person, particularly the woman in these type of abusive relationships. so a lot of jurisdictions, the police don't have that discretion. we often see the woman not want to press charges or they cover for the other person. so the laws are being changed to say, if somebody has a visible injury, someone has to go to jail. >> right. now, look, that's true. and we'll figure out the
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jurisdiction here. but it's a side bar, although god bless the petitos and the schmidt families for wanting to talk about abusive relationships and putting out a message to women in a situation like that. them thinking outside of themselves in this moment is a real demonstration of what they're about. but we care because if that's what this dynamic is, and they were separated, now they're back together. remember, they're in the middle of nowhere, and they wind up at that campsite most likely. next, how reasonable is it that in the reapproachment, it's going to get ugly first? >> it's very likely. gabby said they had been fighting for weeks and it's been getting worse. i believe she related to her mother that she was dpetgettinge
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anxious because things were getting more awkward between the two of them. they're not living in a house, they're living in a van. they are on top of each other. and arguably co-depenco-depende. when you take off in a van like that, the controlling party is going to have more control. if they lose that control or the other person starts exercising independence, it's going to be trouble. >> people are say, it's not like she went missing the next day. >> doesn't have to be the next day. these are periods of constancy and pressure and building and the fight at the restaurant. then they're at the campsite. i'm just saying that circumstantially, it's going to be a familiar pattern for prosecutors. and then gabby's body being found, not hidden, speaks to a suddenness. if the cause of death is evidence of a crime of passion, this plays to a pattern that
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then you put together with someone going home alone and saying nothing to the family of the loved one and neither does their family for ten days undered a vils of counsel, highly suggestive. we'll see what the case is. but we're trying to tell the story. bobby, what's your fake on the fbi going back to the house, saying they want some more scent material and the suggestion reportedly that they may be narrowing things down? >> well, i think people should understand that, you know, we're in a period where no stone is going to be unturned. so if they are taking that scent material to give to tracking dogs so that they can finish the swamp search or go up to the park and search there. again, we have to cover every single lead. we don't have the luxury of picking and choosing what we want to do. so they're going through every
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single thing to determine and then rule it out if they don't find them. so they probably have tracking dogs. so they go back and the best thing to use on a tracking dog is an item of clothing that the person has worn directly against their skin. so that's probably what they took out of there in a bag today when the agents were there. >> spitballing it for us. two plus weeks, with a head start. what is the percentage chance you find somebody in these situations? >> you know, unfortunately, i would love to say it's higher. but i think if they do it right, they had the time to plan, they had the time to get the funds together. we're almost in a post pandemic environment, where everybody is wearing masks. less people are out and about. you know, i think that there's a chance that he could be successfully off the radar for a little while. >> bobby, thank you very much. >> it mains me to say that.
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>> absolutely. but you have to deal with the realities. it is not easy to evade authorities. i know it's a swamp, but unless an alligator tucked him under a tree trunk, it's not easy to hide with this kind of pressure. thank you very much, brother. busy night. we're keeping watch on breaking news. we will turn, however, to a story you just got to see. have you ever seen a guy do what this guy did? did you see this? i have -- this guy, forget about superheroes. this is my man right now. he had never done anything like this before. he figured out that trap door thing, taking on that alligator. did you see what he did afterwards, down in florida? he's not even from florida, by the way.
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en and he's in flip-flops, he's in like slides or something. did you see what he did after? i have it for you. we're back with the man himself. this is who i want to be, the reptile wrangler, next. rience. improve our workflow. attract new customers. that's when fastsigns recommended fleet graphics. yeah, and now business is rolling in. get started at fastsigns.com.
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the football game is lousy, anyway, tonight, so it's good for you to watch the next two things. i guarantee it's going to change your disposition. have you seen this video coming out of florida, this epic showdown between a man and an alligator? of course, like all good things in america these days, his buddy decides to just video it with his phone than help the guy, but he is taking on the alligator with the trash can. he has never done this before. he knows nothing about alligators. he's not even from florida, he's from north philly. his kids were playing outside this week, they heard hissing, realized it was the gator. he springs into action. there is his boy right there with the cell phone. like he couldn't help. he even uses the lid as a trap
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door on this. and it works. amazing. then he lifts it up. what else do you need to see to make this man someone you absolutely call whenever anything happens in your life that needs help? he then -- this is the even more beautiful part. what do you think he does with the alligator? look what he does. you would be thinking kill it or call the cops, you know what i mean? leave it somewhere, put a big rock on the top. nope. he goes across the street, down a pond with a big ass angry alligator in there, okay? in slides, walking backwards. goes to the pond, taking his sweet time, and then he lets it go.
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and takes back his garbage can, because they're expensive. eugene joins us now, and i finally figured out why it makes sense. eugene's last name is bozzi, b-o-z-z-i. italian blood. i knew it had to be in there. north philly, italian blood. that alligator never had a chance. good to see you. what do you make of the celebration of that alligator sensation? >> basically i take it like this. i think the alligator was really deprived and tired after going through that ordeal. i really just wanted to make sure all parties were safe. that's why i put the alligator back in the lake. i love animals and i respect the wildlife and all that. i just wanted to change the environment for my children and get them out of that concrete jungle. the world is rough right now, so that was the decision we made on behalf of our children. >> obviously you love your kids, because who takes on an alligator?
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what made you think this is the way to capture the alligator? >> i had a few encounters -- my daughter go on bikes all day because no cars come to the street at all. they saw a small one a few weeks ago. a small one, i grabbed him by the tail. i threw it back in there. so fast forward to that day, my daughter actually came and got me and said, dad, come here. i said, what are you talking about? she showed me and i said, let me get the trash can. i used my war marine techniques. steve irwin came out in me a little built, you know, steve irwin before youtube, when you watched steve irwin videos, there was no rewind unless you wanted to rewind the tape. so fast-forward in the situation, and i treated him like a hungry hippo mouth. >> that was absolutely hungry hippo all day long.
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you say your military training. how did the military help you in this situation? dealing with the adrenaline? >> when i say military, i'm not saying train like actually attack or apprehend alligators, but to be under pressure and not panic and approach the situation and finish the task and eliminate the threat so you can make the environment around you safe. that's kind of what i did in afghanistan with my other veterans, and i'm proud i served this country and i hope the country is happy for me serving. i've got seven daughters. they embrace me -- >> seven daughters. >> yeah. >> i make ends meet and it's tough, but we make it. we're happy. we're comfortable. >> an alligator is the least of your problem with seven daughters. i know you know this is dangerous stuff and you got to be careful.
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next time, god willing, just call the wildlife cops. >> absolutely. i'll tell everybody to come in the house and call police. i appreciate that. thank you. >> no, i appreciate it. eugene, thank you for giving us a good story with a happy ending. god bless you and your seven daughters and your entire family, and thank gold you're safe. thank you for letting us see somebody do something remarkable. >> thank you, sir. i appreciate that, and i'm a big fan of you and your brother. i think you're doing a good job in the world. i appreciate you. >> let me tell you something, neither one of us would have been within a zip code of where you were with that alligator. you win. but we're all italian, so there's hope for us yet. eugene, be well. >> i'm half and half, black and italian, but i appreciate it. >> that's fine. i'll take half. >> that's a narrative we have to change. black fathers, we're going to step up and start taking care of our kids. we're changing the future for them from this day forward.
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