good evening. chris is off tonight. a special late edition of "360." with lawmakers struggling to bridge the divide on the agenda, president biden went to the hill to tell lawmakers take all the time you need. >> i'm telling you, we're going to get this done. it doesn't matter when. doesn't matter if it's in six

minutes, six days, six weeks. we're going to get it done. >> his visit and the words give house and senate democrats time to agree on size and scope of the new social spending and vote on the house on the in infrastructure bill that was held up in negotiations. a short time ago, speaker pelosi, pushing to get this done this week, sent a dear colleague letter to members, agreeing that more time is needed. the last hour, i spoke with the chair of the progressive caucus, who was pleased by tonight's outcome. >> we are doing the work we need to do, to go back and look at our priorities on what we need to have in this bill and how to come to an agreement. that's the negotiating process and i'm thrilled that it's happening. we will do the work we need to do. i'm confident that we are going to get there. >> the house passed 30 days of

stop-gap money for the trust fund to last overnight. lauren fox at the cop tcapitol, on how the republicans bridge that divide. first, the white house, and jeremy diamond. how is the white house feeling tonight about the meeting between the president and democrats on the hill. the progressives are at least now going to be -- are going to be going back and looking at the priorities, and coming from the 3.5 trillion. >> that's one of the reasons that white house officials i've spoken with, feel good how the president's visit to capitol hill went today. they feel the president went there to remind the members of what is at stake to bridge the divisions between the progressive and the moderate factions of the democratic party. more importantly, it was really to try to relieve some of the pressure that has been building up on capitol hill over the last

several days. now, what's interesting about that is the white house and the president have very much been a part of that buildup, that pressure that was building up over the last several days. very much pushing yesterday, for example, for that vote on the infrastructure bill to actually happen. since that collapsed, the president went in with a mindset of trying to release some of the pressure. and they believe, the white house believes, that is going to give space for the negotiations to go more in depth and to happen in a way that both sides have kcrystallized their positions publicly and are committed to getting to a deal. >> is there any timeline from the white house? the president said it could be as long as forever. speaker pelosi, if you think she should have set a deadline or not, she did bring this to a head, if there's no urgency, this could just drag on. >> that is also one of the risks here. even earlier today, the white

house press secretary told me she believes some of the artificial deadlines are helpful. now, we hear the president talking about six days, six weeks. ultimately, this surface transportation bill was reauthorized for another 30 days. that's the timeline that the white house is looking at. they're not going to take a tauz here. the president returned from capitol hill. he went into the oval office and sat down with some of the senior aides to debrief and talk about the steps ahead. being involved with the negotiations, but traveling across the country to use the bully pulpit and bring up pressure from that side of things, rather than just here from washington. >> jeremy diamond, in the capitol. lauren fox is there. how are the scenes with moderates and progresses are willing to bend to get a compromise?

>> some moderates are frustrated tonight, anderson. they had been promised this vote on monday. then, that was shifted to thursday, and then, we end the night knowing there will not be a vote on the floor of house of representatives on that bipartisan infrastructure bill. the frustration is -- you know, very much a part of how moderates are feeling tonight. but progressives, i think making clear that they want to have more conversations. what they wanted all along, was clarity, from manchin and sinema, who progressives in the senate, that they didn't think they wanted. it had manchin saying $1.5 trillion was his number. he didn't say it once. he said it repeatedly. and that was a big moment for progressives, feeling like the negotiation is really going to take off. there's a lot of work to do. and the speaker devote into how much more work there is.

more time is needed to complete the task. our priority is to create jobs on the health care, family and climate agenda. that's a shared value. our chairs are working for clarity and consensus. clearly, the bipartisan infrastructure bill will pass, once we have agreement on the reconciliation bill. once again, anderson, moderates saying that was not the deal. the deal was to bring a bipartisan infrastructure bill to the floor. they are expressing frustration. that's where things land tonight. and hopefully, over the weekend, as members go home and they have some time apart, perhaps they will come back next week, ready to dig back in. >> what about house republicans? there's new reporting that they may be thinking support for the in infrastructure bill. >> we expected there was going to be a handful of republicans. many aides i was talking to was saying that number was probably around 12 to 20, who might vote for the bipartisan infrastructure bill. remember, it passed in the senate with 19 republican votes. and some of those senators who were supportive were working

their colleagues in the house of representatives, thrying to get republicans across the capitol to support that bill. some of the republican leaders were whipping against it. now, we're learning that some of the republican members who had been thinking about voting for the infrastructure bill may not do that now. they feel the announcement tonight by pelosi, she was not going to bring the bill to the floor, means this bigger $3.5 trillion or smaller package, however large it turns out to be, social safety net bill, is so tied to the bipartisan infrastructure bill and they're concerned. the argument behind the scenes that leadership has been making, is that bipartisan infrastructure bill is a gateway drug to the bigger democratic socialist package. that's what republicans are calling it. that means if you vote for the bipartisan bill, you're helping bring that bigger bill along. some republican senators are trying to say that's not the

case. but now, that pelosi is saying these two bills are so linked, that really gives republicans who are thinking about helping pass that bipartisan bill some pause. anderson? >> appreciate it. joining us now, one of the recipients of the dear colleague letter, ro khanna. thankman, thanks for being with us. you heard the suggestions, that they're going to negotiate a lauer dollar figure of the $3.5 trillion safety net. do your agree with that? and how tough do you expect the negotiations to be? >> i do. the president always said we will negotiate. the president was inspiring today. i rap as a moderate democrat. we need a consensus on the b bigger bill to pass infrastructure. the other thing he said that was

so important, is tell me what you are for. we're for child care for everyone. we're for making sure people get to go to community college. we're for seniors getting dental and vision. those opposed, tell us what policy you're not for. that will help us get the consensus. >> in your view, what has changed from a day ago. aside from president biden coming to the hill and telling the democratic kcaucus to take more time on this? >> presidents matter. a lot of people frankly are looking for direction from the president. it's like reading tea leaves. everyone wanted to interpret the president to fit their vision. today, the president said here's what i think. for the moderates, he said, we have to do both bills. to the progressive, you're not going to get $3.5 trillion. he was clear. i've been spending hours for the two senators.

i want the $3.5 trillion. i wrote the bill. we're not going to get it. compromise. tell me what you need. he was such a straight shooter and he's going to get a response from the caucus that will be more unified. >> the figure $2 billion seems to be on a lot of people's lips. what do you think when you hear that? >> i think we should do what the president suggested. what from the priorities? add that up and see what the totals. and see where senator manchin and senator sinema disagree. they don't want to fund addition and dental visits for seniors. they don't want to fund community college? don't want to fund paid family leave? and we can have the conversation. i don't think we can start with the top line, with the programs. they may have programs they don't want. >> at this point, you're not clear on that? you don't know where they stand?

>> i am not clear. i don't think the president is clear. at least with senator sinema. we don't have specifics. there's been progresses. i think senator manchin has put out a detailed proposal. sen senator sinema has started to engage. >> one of your democratic colleagues, stephanie murphy, released a statement, saying, i'm profoundly disappointed and disillusioned by this process. she criticized the speaker's decision to delay the vote again, as well as democratic colleagues, who congresswoman murphy said was misguided over the reconciliation bill. >> no one is going to exert leverage over president biden. he beat donald trump. this is what he wants. that's what we were saying. the idea that a few is going to exert leverage over the president, it's not true. he wants to help people.

and stephanie murphy has been a constructive voice. i hope she will get behind the president's vision. >> appreciate it. thank you. next, two political professionals, years of experience and the moments that make or break presidencies. their decision on the president's decision to call a time-out. and new developments on the manhunt for brian laundrie and possible sightings in the search. how realistic those might actually be. we'll be right back. 72,807! 72,808... dollars. yep... everything hurts. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ new projects means new project managers. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. when you sponsor a job, you immediately get your shortlist of quality candidates, whose resumes on indeed match your job criteria.

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joining us now, two veteran democrats and cnn political commentators that have southeastern a lot of moments like this unfold from the west wing, paul begala and joe lockhart. we've seen that tamp down tensions between progressives and moderates. what do you make of how split

the party has become and where it goes from here? >> i think he did a good job of tamping things down. i thought it meant the deal was done. you don't deploy the big gun just to seal the deal. that wasn't the case. he needed to go. he did something very artful. one of the ablest, smartest members. he is happy. listen to what biden did. i got to have both, the roads and bridges infrastructure package and the health and education and child care package. that made khanna and the liberals happy. we have to go down about 40%. and still, the liberals are happy about that. that's an artful things. moderates are unhappy. in the moderate driistricts, they'll hear, you need to get

something done. biden knows what he's doing. >> joe, how do you see it? >> yeah. i think paul's right. what the president did was go up there and split the baby. gave both sides a reason to go forward. broke the log jam. he needed to do it. i think what is getting lost is what is in the bill. it's a shift. it's a shift that's long overdue that reenforced the safety net that's been under attack since the 1980s. and everyone will have to look at the benefits of universal pre-k, community college, paid family leave. expanding medicare and a lot of stuff on climate. and i think it does reflect the bill itself from an ideological point of view, reflects a shift in the democratic party. it has moved from the party paul

and i worked hard on, bringing it to a centrist party to where the country is. it's become more progressive. >> does that mean republicans are enjoying this and enjoying on running on socialism taking over america? >> yes. it probably will. joe's right. if they get to the specifics, right? if they say, i think your child care should cost less, i think your health insurance premium should come down, i think your grandma should get help. those are popular things. they have to move away from the price tag. when they do, that's fine. that will be good for the democrats. she said 19 senators voted for this. if you do the same path in the house, it should be about 80 house republicans for this. it looks like it's dwindling

down to a handful of zero. they can slogan about socialism. and they did that about bill clinton who was a moderate. if you get to the specifics, do you think your kid should be able to go to community college if she wants to without having a bunch of debt? that's a good hand for the democrats. >> republicans can do what they were already doing, which is criticize it, don't vote for it. whi when it passes, that's popular in the districts. >> they haven't had opponents run gechbs them. i think you see a lot of ads about republicans talking out of both sides of their mouth. there was a press release for an ad person's dream. and picking up on what paul said, what the republican party is revealing itself is a party that once again, and we've seen this over the last five years,

puts politics ahead of the country. they are saying, i would rather hurt joe biden than help people. and i don't think in the long term that's a very good strategy. >> interesting how overtime people's perspective changes. there's a lot of people that say, this is socialism, this is too much. they also like medicare, social security, which, you know, a few years ago, or when it started, was viewed in the same way. >> yeah. a lot of the voters that democrats are talking to are theoretical conservatives but operational liberals. is government too big? does it spend too much? heck, yeah. do you think your grandma should be able to get a hearing aid under medicare? of course. she has to hair. the fact that medicare doesn't cover hearing and dental and vision. i'm pretty old. lockhart is probably older than

i am. we need that stuff. you can't see, can't hear, can't eat. that's a practical thing. people become liberal when it's practical. >> that's where you see them taking this, in terms of the midterm? >> i do. and i did hear that, i can still hear. i do. the one thing i would add to this, is the other piece of this, this is paid for. it's paid for by something very popular. the rich have gotten away with everything. during the pandemic, the billionaires have flourished, while the rest of the people have suffered. when you add that in, we're shifting the burden to where it belongs, while providing service to the people that need it, that's a powerful combination. >> thanks, have a good weekend. both seem like spring chickens to me. up next, breaking news. the u.s. covid -- there's good news on covid today, should point out. the u.s. covid death toll

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the death toll from covid has crossed 700,000 people. that's 700,000 families mourning the loss of a loved one. california has become the first state in the country to mandate a covid vaccine for k through 12 students to be in the classroom. it will be phased in. there's good news about a drug taken orally, that could make a denlt in how the virus is fought. talk about all this, dr. sanjay gupta will join us. but first, dan simon about the action in california. why did the governor want to make this mandate before the children are eligible for the

vaccine? >> first of all, if all goes well, the vaccine for younger children will be approved soon. the fda advisory committee mating later in the month. the governor wanted to create the expectation that if you are a young child or older child in california, k through 12, you need to be vaccinated for covid-19, if you want to attend in-person classes. the governor making the argument and it's a good argument, that you are required to be vaccinated against a whole host of diseases, like chickenpox and polio and measles and mumps. the governor invoked his own children, two of whom tested positive for covid. >> i have four, young kids. i can't take this anymore. like most parents, i want to get this behind us and get the economy moving again. you don't want to get a call saying they can't go to school because one of the kids or a

staff member tested positive. >> and how and when does this mandate go into effect? >> first of all, a medical and religious exemption. if the parents or the student opts out, they can go into a study. it will be rolled in, in terms of phases. 12 to 17 years of age, once the fda grant is full approval. and that will happen, either -- i guess in the next couple months, it will be rolled into california, january or july, whichever comes first. and later for younger children. he has been entirely predictable. the same positions that people had for wearing masks, and other vaccine mandates, the same position applies here. >> appreciate it.

thanks. dr. sanjay gupta joins us now. before we get to the new data in california, the u.s. just passed 700,000 deaths from covid. when we first started covering covid, we shuddered at 50,000 deaths, then 100,000 deaths, now, 700,000 lives lost. did you think you would see this? >> i did not. i know there were models and projections that were all over the place. you kept thinking, here in the united states, with all the resources we have, the public health infrastructure, we wouldn't see this. i remember talking to deborah burks. she suggested that after the first 100,000, we grappled figuring things out, that almost, you know, every death after that, was preventable. that was hard for people to hear. but so many on these deaths were preventable.

it was in action. it was ineptitude. it was a fact that we don't have a true health care system as much as a sick care system. it was the inequities that were unmasked with all of this. i thought about this a lot, anderson. we work in a system and dedicate our whole lives to help save lives. it's very hard to believe that this many have died and so many of the deaths are preventable. >> that didn't have to happen. that's especially true now. i want to talk about the bill that is being reported a lot about today. wlst last hour, scott gottlieb said it would be a game-changer. i wasn't reading closely enough. it was vaccine in a pill form.

anybody that was sick with covid, could potentially take this and how effective would it be? we have to be getting clarify on who would benefit from this. the people that have the breakthrough infections, that are sick, they could benefit from this. they weren't part of the initial trial. but i think -- let me show you the data on this. this is the trial. it was -- you split the two groups, 385 were given the drug. 28 were hospitalized. and in the placebo group, 377, 45 were hospitalized. eight died. that's 14% to 15%. that's where the 50% benefit comes from. that's where they calculate that. it is a treatment, as opposed to a preventative. these are people that have

covid. while it seems to be an effective treatment, as i showed you, there's still -- a lot that we don't know about this virus. people are going to say, hey, now that this exists, should it make the vaccine less important? no. you still don't want this disease. we don't know what it does to the body. i don't know how this can isolate a loss of smell. how does it do it to the brain? you don't want the disease. that's what you should strive for. if the data pans out and the fda authorizes it. >> one of the things that g gottlieb said in the last hour, it could have an effect on consumer confidence. somebody that's been vaccinated, if they get a breakthrough infection, knowing they could take a pill that would reduce

the risk of diagnose or being hospitalized certainly, or getting -- feeling really bad, it would encourage them to engage in public. you say the flipside of that is people taking risks? >> yeah. i don't know. human behavior, pretty unpredictable here. i don't think this should dissuade people from getting the vaccine. that's the most important message. now that this exists, i don't need to get the vaccine. i hope that's not the message. you want more tools in the tool belt. prepandemic, i remember you reminding that half of the country gets a flu shot. and people had tamiflu in their cabinets thinking, i'll have the tamiflu. we have the wherewithal to prevent the diseases in the first place.

as a surgeon, someone who treats people and the stage of the disease, i would think that prevention has to be a better ail ternty. cheaper, as well. about 700 bucks for a course of this. the covid vaccine, about $20. >> sanjay, appreciate it again. sanjay's book will be out soon. ahead, an update of the investigation of the death of gabby petito. possible sightings of her fiance, trying to look at how real the sightings are. and a report on the days, weeks and years. how long high-profile manhunts have lasted.

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authorities in north carolina are telling our randi kaye that there's possible sightings of brian laundrie. this mondayh manhunts require manpower and patients. randi kaye has that. >> we won't stop until we have

the convicts captured. >> reporter: it was one of the biggest manhunts in history. it was in june of 2015, after richard mann and david sweat pulled off an escape from a prison in new york. they drilled out of their cells and escaped through this manhole. more than 1,000 federal, state and local law enforcement searched through the neighboring towns, fields and forests surrounding the prison. they also received more than 1, 400 tips. one led authorities to mann, who was shot and killed. and then, to sweat, who survived. they were on the run for three weeks and made it 30 miles from the prison before they were found. in 2013, excop christopher dorner went on a shooting spree. he was look for revenge after the los angeles police department fired him. he ended up allegedly killing four people.

police pursued him deep in the san bernadino mountains in the middle of the winter. authorities used snowcats and armored vehicles to search the area for dorner, a trained sharpshooter who was still armed. california wish and wildlife wardens called in a sighting of dorner in his car. which led to a standoff in this cabin. police hoped to drive him out by setting a fire. but dorner's remains were later found among the ashes. police believe he took his own life. he was on the run for only nine days. in 1996, eric rudolph set off a bomb at atlantic park, killing two and wounding dozens. he would carry out three more bombings before he was identified by police two years later. they picked up his trail in north carolina. hundreds of law enforcement officers searched through the dense forest. but rudolph had advantages over authorities.

he had a military background, he was very familiar with the deep woods of north carolina and he may have had people helping him along the way. rudolph was only caught after a rookie police officer found him rummaging through the trash behind a building in murphy, north carolina. he was on the run for five years before he was caught. he is serving a life sentence in a maximum security prison. and then, there was the case of whitey bulger, the notorious crime boss from massachusetts. in 1994, he got a tip he was about to be indicted and quickly went into hiding. he assumed a new identity, along with his girlfriend. the fbi put him on their ten-most wanted list, along with osama bin laden. he was finally apprehended in california, after a tip was called in to authorities. whitey bulger was on the run for 16 years. he was later beaten to death inside his prison cell. >> randi kaye from outside of the laundrie home in florida.

brian laundrie's family told police they have not seen him since september 14th. what's the latest? >> reporter: the days in this manhunt are adding up. they reported him missing on the 17th. the next day, the authorities started searching on september 18th. today, october 1st, marked the 14th day of the search. the fbi, leading the charge. it's a very targeted search. we're getting trips from around the country. and still, no sign of brian laundrie. >> should point out alleged sightings. randi kaye, thank you very much. so, let me -- i mean, people must have -- i mean, authorities must get alleged sightings all the time. how did -- you know, especially when something is as watched and

there's so much interest in this, what do you do from a law enforcement standpoint with all of the alleged sightings? >> you're correct. good evening, anderson. thanks for having me on. right now, brian laundrie is getting a whole lot of attention. this is a full-court press on behalf of law enforcement. there's a lot of dedicated resources, state-of-the-art equipment, manpower, money. going after this guy. they have to. they have to stay ahead of the curve. there's tips coming in all the time. they have to vet these tips out, knowing the case, knowing the players involved, a trusted circle of friends. you put that puzzle together as a fugitive investigator, you will know what tips are good, which ones are valid, which ones you need to take a look at. others, you have to exhaust all these leads. the public has to remain vigilant. >> and exhaust the leads. they have to keep searching these areas, even though they're

doing it for a while. and no sign. >> absolutely. randi mentioned the four cases. i'm aware of four of them. whitey bulger, i compare to him to sweat and matt. they popped out of a sewer. the woman that was supposed to pick them up, they were working with inside the jail. they run into the woods and don't have a clue what they were doing. i don't think he preplanned any of this stuff. he's scared. he's off the grid. not communicating. he's going to make mistakes. i told you earlier, he -- he's sleeping with one eye open. hopefully law enforcement closes in on this guy. they bring this thing home. >> seems like authorities in north carolina have been downplaying these alleged -- possible sightings of laundrie. how do investigators usually go through all of the -- you said

they have to kind of vet them. how do you vet -- people say, i saw him on this trail in north carolina. >> well, they come in a variety of ways, whether they saw him or they had a friend and saw a friend in a bar. there's one guy they identify. could have been his twin brother. they have cameras all over the place. there was a guy thinking, i think where he was. a shot of him in the cell phone. these tips are going to come in. you can't ignore them. whitey bulger, a perfect example. i know the u.s. marshal that found him. he went back and dusted off the files. he looked at the tips that came in. a couple of good ones. he spoke to sh this woman that was overseas. she got back to him. and she said, he's my neighbor. we know how that ended. >> good to talk to you.

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days after youtube banned disinformation about covid and other vaccines on its site, there remains the question what effect that can have this far into the pandemic? and with misinformation deeply entrenched in so many segments of society. donie o'sullivan spoke to a former-google employee who worked on the youtube algorithm about how this happened. >> as long as possible because as long as [ inaudible ]. >> and that didn't matter if it was bs videos about vaccines, didn't matter if it was misinformation because all these people are watching videos? youtube announced this week that it would crack down more on vaccine misinformation.

but almost two years into the pandemic, the news left many people asking what took them so long? >> reporter: the company saying it will now ban well-known false claims about approved vaccines including that they will cause autism, cancer, or infertility. or that substances in vaccines can track those who receive them. >> i'm sure you have seen the pictures all over the internet of people who've had these shots, and they're magnetized and put a key on their forehead, it sticks. >> that's anti-vax conspiracy theorist sherry tenpenny, who despite a history of making unhinged claims like that, was only recently suspended by youtube. >> this is not content without consequences. these -- these -- you know, this misinformation when it takes hold in communities, it can have a profound impact.

>> reporter: and taken hold, it has. sherry tenpenny's conspiracy theories have spread far and wide. >> my own doctor tried to get me to get the shot and i told him to go watch dr. tenpenny. >> so you trust this woman on the internet? more than your own doctor some. >> uh-huh. i do. >> another superspreader of covid misinformation only banned by youtube this week, joseph mercola, who had almost half a million followers on the platform. >> it's an unproved vaccine. it's just being accelerated, eliminate virtually every safety study. >> reporter: he still has almost 2 million followers on facebook, and more than 300,000 on twitter. reacting to his youtube ban, he said in a statement he was being censored an attack on his freedom of speech. but the conspiracy theorist had little to say when confronted by cnn's randi kaye in august. >> reporter: do you feel responsible for people who didn't get vaccinated, possibly got sick and died because of what you told them about the vaccine? what do you say to families who

have lost loved ones? >> reporter: companies like youtube have spent too much time focusing on growth, and not enough on safety says this former-google engineer whow worked with youtube. >> one anti-vax video, for instance, the algorithm designed to recognize similar videos that share the same interest. when -- when i started to work on youtube, i thought i would help build -- make the world a better place. and get people to learn more information. but by doing an algorithm, that doesn't take into account that sometimes it took people down this rabbit hole of misinformation. >> and donie o'sullivan joins us now. how wide ranging could the effects of this new rule be, considering how often other websites link back to youtube? >> that's right, anderson. yeah, i mean, the effects of this go well beyond youtube and the effects of youtube's

inaction on this go well beyond youtube. as you say, videos from youtube get shared all over the place. on facebook, on websites. i mean, the big question is how effective will they actually follow through with this policy? will youtube actually live up to their word? i should mention a spokesperson for the company told us that since that employee we spoke to there in that piece, since they worked for the company a few years ago, that youtube says it sort of gotten its act together a bit more on vaccine misinformation. they brought in new rules, new changes to their algorithms. but all that being said, i mean, it is pretty stunning, anderson, that we are almost two years into this pan demmic and it's only now the company is putting in a widespread ban on the ridiculous claim that the vaccine have microchips in them. >> donie o'sullivan, appreciate it. thanks. we'll be right back. wealth is your first big investment. worth is a partner to help share the load. wealth is saving a little extra. worth is knowing it's never too late to start - or too early.

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