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wait, a minute? but what have you been doing for the last two hours? ...delegating? oh, good one. move your xfinity services without breaking a sweat. xfinity makes moving easy. go online to transfer your services in about a minute. get started today. i think debbie downer goes to saying everything is bad. that's not what i'm saying. i'm saying we need to start asking why aren't things getting better? "don lemon tonight" starts now with the big star d. lemon. >> i think there are a lot of things that are getting better. i saw the debbie downer and thought the smirk is going.
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i see both sides, i see the glass half empty right now and there are a lot of things going right. >> such as? >> well, such as there is a possible pill that helps people when they get sick with covid, that the covid numbers are coming down despite the vaccine hesitant people in this country. that there may be a deal, it looks like a deal is in the works when it comes to infrastructure in this country and that will help. so i think there are some good things. and also on the other side i think the concern should not be whether republicans love trump. we know that, duh. i think the concern should be with joe biden's approval ratings at an all time low reflects 58% to 38%.
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>> you have to see the relationship between the two. >> i don't see the relationship. one is looking at a reality. there is a president in office. people aren't happy with the job he's doing. other is a hypothetical. what would happen if he gets back, what have you. there is a difference between an approval rating i'm talking about trump now, a high approval rating and whether or not people want to see him run. but that -- i think let's not get ahead of ourselves because that may happen or may not happen. i think people should be concerned with the actual reality of what is happening now. the person who is controlling the levers of government or party controlling levers of government now. that's a democratic party. that's joe biden's party for democrats and that also shows if he doesn't get his agenda across the finish line, it's going to be an uphill battle or climb. that's where the concern should be. not if what, if, could have, is he going to run or desantis? don't get ahead of yourself. what about can the democrats and the people in washington
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republicans, as well, can they get the work done for the american people? can they get the work done for the people who put this current president in office? that is where the focus should be for the time being. >> well, that's always the focus. it's just that the answer is an obvious no and the reason that the answer is no is because of what you're saying doesn't matter that much, which i differ with. >> i'm sure it doesn't matter that much but i'm saying priorities, people. >> i know, but the state of play is that biden's numbers are upside down for two main reasons. one, he's got no big wins and two, things don't feel better in terms of the nature of the spirit of the country. he's got his own party going at it with one another and you can call that big ten politics. i call that b.s. the other part is it is very much the reality that republicans overwhelmingly want
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donald trump again and kissing his hiny is also proof that they are going to play to his return so that's a reality. and also why biden can't get anything done with the republicans because they are playing to the animus. the parties aren't even. it's true. democrats are making their own problems and the republicans are trying to make problems for biden. >> they are trying to make problems for the country. they are harming the country by trying to harm this. i just think that, you know, we overindex trump and the trump supporters. before he was president, what do they think -- >> they're a minority and we make it sound like they're half the country. >> right. thank you. so i'm saying the same thing is happening with the oh, what is he going to -- he may run, and
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we'll deal with that. >> i actually don't think he does. >> i don't know if he does if he could actually win. because as you say it's not half the country and the people polling it's among likely voters for republicans or just republicans -- >> leaners. >> leaners, okay, fine. of course we know that. duh, republicans love donald trump. duh. >> he likely won't win. and him taking a double "l," i don't believe he can destroy the democracy. anything is possible, but i think this country and its institutions are stronger than the challenge presents itself. >> i'm not saying we don't -- we're not aware of it -- we shouldn't be aware of it. i want to make sure because people get things out of context. i'm saying that let's look at what's important in front of us
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right now. what's the best thing for the american people as far as elected officials are concerned? what's the best thing for an informed electret as far as you and i are concerned? the people in power now, what are they doing holding them accountable. donald trump is no longer in power. let's keep joe biden, his administration and republicans and democrats in office now. let's keep their future to fire truth to power in the moment that we're in and worry about donald trump if that time comes. >> deal. >> when the time is. >> that's what's in the interest of the american people. deals on all the issues that matter and then they can judge the deals and that should elevate the outcome of the election. >> deal. handshake. see you later. >> love you d. lemon. >> i love you -- [ laughter ] >> see you soon. this is "don lemon tonight" on a big breaking news night with major developments that's why i have to hurry up and get to it because it's a busy night. there is a texas six-week abortion ban, the most restrictive in the nation. a federal judge in texas issuing
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an order blocking the ban, blocking it. it is a victory for opponents of the law, but it may be short-lived. it could be temporary. the state promising to appeal here. that is happening as it is time for democrats -- for democrats to make up their minds if they want to get the president's multi-trillion dollar agenda across the finish line, the agenda he campaigned on, the promises he made to the american people, they're going to have to make some very hard choices. will they take what they can get or risk losing it all? and make no mistake that's what's at stake right now. this is a defining moment. and it is coming as mitch mcconnell who has vowed for months that there will be no republican help on the debt is now offering democrats until
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december to figure out how to avoid something that has never happened in the history of this country, a default. talks continuing. >> senator mcconnell is now offering to have his caucus step aside and let democrats all 50 of us come to the floor and vote for a short term debt ceiling raise and i think we will accept that so we can move forward with finishing the work to pass the build back better agenda. >> listen, avoiding a default is of course a good thing. getting a few more weeks gives democrats time to work on the president's agenda without the threat of our economy collapsing. but make no mistake here, what's happening now is just kicking the can down the road. the white house said it and that's exactly what it is. we could be right back in the same place in december. a default looming while
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democrats battle their own. meanwhile, president biden's approval rating is sinking. the latest poll puts it at 38%, the lowest since he took office. like i said, it is a defining moment for the president's party and for his agenda. and there is news tonight that i want you to listen to. out of minneapolis, remember during george floyd so much of the focus was on minneapolis. we have this stunning new body camera footage of minneapolis police officers, they're responding to protests in the days after george floyd's death. revealing officers talking about hunting civilians as part of a response to unrest in the early hours of may 31st, 2020. according to court documents, that night this particular unit had been going down lake street in minneapolis clearing out people who were not adhering to the curfew with 40 millimeter non-lethal rounds. okay? as part of a debriefing with this unit afterward, a
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minneapolis police commander, pay close attention, said this. >> a busy night. >> it's nice to hear that we move -- today was just nice to hear we'll go find some more people instead of chasing people around, we're on a hunt. you're hunting people now. it's just a nice change of tempo. >> yep, agreed. >> [ bleep ] these people. >> so that was the attitude for officers there that you heard. cnn reviewed more than two hours of body camera videos and we have got more to come on this very story tonight. okay? there is more. this is happening as this day marks nine months, can you believe it's been nine months since one of the worst attacks in american history. that was the day that blood
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thirsty trump supporting rioters attacked the united states capitol, the capitol of the united states. storming the building all caught on live television beating police trying to defend the capitol within an inch of their lives and hunting lawmakers who were forced to flee. nine months since we watched all of that in horror. watched as it was happening. now the clock is ticking for several top aids and advisors to former president, the former president to turnover documents to the select committee investigating what happened nine months ago and sources say they haven't been able to physically serve the subpoena to one of those aides, and that's dan scavino, the communications guy. they want to find out what he knows about videos like this one. >> go home. we love you. you're very special. you've seen what happens. you see the way others are treated that are so bad and so evil. i know how you feel. >> meanwhile, the disgraced twice impeached one term ex
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president is showing that you just -- why he is disgraced putting out a statement actually it's nothing but a rant, really claiming the real ensure recollection happened on november 3rd, the day joe biden won the presidency with more than 81 million votes. more votes than the former guy. that was the day the ex president lost. it's just another rant/statement he's been putting out since he was kicked off twitter on january 6th because they feared that he would incite more violence and he is still pushing the big lie. the lie that exploded into violence at the capitol and here is the thing about pushing lying. when you lie to people over and over and over and over, when you tell them their government is lying to them, they won't believe you even when you're trying to save their lives. okay? that is why the health and human services, that is why health and human services is putting out a series of new ads aimed at convincing people still vaccine
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hesitant, ads that don't sugarcoat what it's like to have and almost die from covid. >> been in the hospital for 7 six days now and by the grace of god, i'm still here. it was a lot of dark times then. i died three times. they gave me a 5% chance at living. so i highly recommend everybody to get the vaccines and really protect themselves because this is no joke. >> no joke. no joke. that's the brutal truth for those who get covid. this country is averaging 133,000 cases a day. the vast majority unvaccinated people. but listen to what happened. okay? pay attention. have a seat. i don't know what time -- if you're having a cocktail, whatever it is getting ready for bet. have a seat, pay attention to this. lindsey graham tried to convince
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people to think about, just to think about getting vaccinated. here it is. >> so the bottom line is i took the vaccine. i've had it. it kicks your butt. if you haven't had the vaccine, you ought to think about getting it -- >> no! >> no! >> i don't tell you to get it. you ought to think about it. >> no! >> no! >> i'm glad i got it. 92% of the people in the hospitals in south carolina are unvaccinated. >> oh, my god. >> lies. >> i'm with you on -- >> lord jesus. >> i'm with you that it's probably unconstitutional -- >> god help me. >> she's right. lord help me. that is absolutely right. lord help me. is it any wonder why far too many people don't trust vaccines when they have been fed a steady diet of lies and misinformation from the very beginning? >> no. not getting that vaccine.
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no, no, no, no. them vaccines are not good, hun. >> are you vaccinated? >> no, but i have a lot of hydroxychloroquine at my house. >> have you got your vaccine shot? >> no. >> why? >> they haven't tested it enough from my opinion. >> i don't trust the government. i don't trust the cdc, i don't trust none of them. >> do you know any people that got sick or died? >> i know three people that got it and died but i know people that got cancer and died, too. >> you know three people that died from coronavirus and you won't get the vaccine? >> no, i like i said, i don't need the vaccine. >> have you guys gotten vaccinated? >> no, won't do it. >> can i ask why you chose not to? >> i'm allergic to a lot of the things in the chemicals and stuff like that and freedom. you get to choose. if you can have an abortion and choose your body, i should be able to choose if i get a shot. >> i know. i know. i know. i know. i know.
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look, they've been fed this steady diet of misinformation, so there is that. however, they are adults. let's remember that where those lies and misinformation came from. >> i said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do through the skin or in some other way and i think you said you're going to test that, too. sounds interesting. and then i see the disinfectant knocks it out in a minute by injection inside or a cleaning. it gets in the lungs. >> so, you know, we live through that.
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hard to believe, right? you know, sometimes i feel bad because i laughed about it but it's not funny. i mean, it's laughable. it's ridiculous to think that. that is -- that was the president of the united states at the time talking about a deadly pandemic and light inside the body, of bleach and all of that. that's where that came from. and then if they didn't see the -- how ludicrous that was, why would they do it now? right. same thing with the polls. we love trump. people romanticize history. they move on. things don't seem bad in the rearview mirror. january 6th wasn't that bad and the pandemic wasn't bad. it was awful. all of it. that's where all of that b.s.
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came from. that guy. but now he's no longer in power so it is the people who are in power now still making excuses for him because they want to hang on to power, not that they want to educate people or do what's right for people or save their lives, they just want to hang on to power and they think that's the best way to do it because people's ignorance -- people have been exploited for their lack of knowledge. let's put it that way and because people want to have their believes confirmed and reconfirmed and reconfirmed. how could he be wrong? we voted for him. he lied to you. lies about the pandemic. lies running on facebook and the big lie that fueled that violent attack on our nation's capitol nine months ago. i have said it before, lies and misinformation. they are killing us. and they are killing our democracy. if i have to say it over and
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over every single night, i'll say it over and over and one day you'll look back and say wow, that guy was right. we should have paid more attention. our breaking news tonight, a federal judge in texas issuing an order blocking the texas six-week ban on abortion. what does it mean for women in texas, and will that order hold? [♪] cooking and eating at home more often means food odors get trapped in your home's fabrics and released back into the air so you smell last night's dinner the next morning. for an easy way to keep your whole home smelling fresh try febreze fabric refresher. febreze's water-based formula deeply penetrates fabrics to eliminate trapped food odors as it dries. spray febreze fabric refresher when you clean up after meals to ensure your entire home smells fresh and clean.
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a federal judge issuing an order to block the restrictive texas abortion ban. state attorneys will appeal the ruling but tonight's decision comes as a victory for opponents of the law after the supreme court decided to block it. analyst and prosecutor laura coates joins us. good evening to you. the perfect person to talk about this, let me just read from the order and his order, judge pitman writes and i quote the other courts may find a way to avoid this conclusion and it is theirs to decide. this court will not sanction one more day of this offensive deliberation of such an important right. it is a strong denunciation, laura, of this law. >> the supreme court of the united states, their decision not to actually rule on the underlying constitutionty or somebody thumbing their nose at the valid roe v wade. remember, this is about the
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deprivation of what has been established under the supreme court press dealt for roe v wade talking about equal protection to the 14th amendment. they sued this particular state based on this in violation in part of the clause as well about federal law being able to preempt and of course, the establish precedent of roe v wade and about how the end runaround judicial review actually might create a blueprint in other states here and so, this is really an indication that this judge is completely a verse to the notion that that which was contemplated as a way for people to not be able to be able to exercise their rights, it was already in effect. it was already acting as a deterrent. people were not able to go and perform or be able to obtain abortion related services and so it had the chilling effect.
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this is actually going to be a temporary measure, though, don in reality. >> okay. yeah, temporary measure because the order could be short lived. any appeal and it could go to the fifth circuit court, correct, that declined the request from clinics to block the law so how might this play out? >> of course, it is one of the most notoriously conservative courts in the entire country so it might ultimately if they decline or they find that the law is constitutional and they don't take issue in the same way that the district court level judge did, it could mean it would not reach the supreme court of the united states if they then decline to under take this. remember, they already have a mississippi state law on the docket to decide an even later abortion ban i believe after 16 weeks.
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this could actually be a very decisive moment in terms of the longevity of this particular district court ban if it goes to the fifth circuit court of appeals, it might in fact be able to be reinstated. right now it is a victory for those who are in favor of abortion related services and of course, roe v wade but might be short lived but for now, it's a clear rebuke of an attempt to have an end runaround very clear precedent. >> let's talk about how restrictive this law is, laura. we discussed it before but aside from the six-week abortion shs the most shocking part of the texas law is how it deputized citizens of those who they use suspect getting an abortion or offering a 10,000 bounty. is that central to the legal argument against it at this point? >> absolutely. the idea of you calling it deputization, to stop a law from going into effect or to sue over constitutionality, a state official or actor is one who has to enforce it. here you have people who could be totally unrelated and unaffected by any person who is attempting to or aiding somebody trying to get an abortion, which
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raises issues about whether you have a right to even bring an action. and it incentivizes people to be able to bring the causes of action, don. because if you are successful you get attorneys fees and you get a $10,000 bounty. this is one of the reasons why it's been so offensive to the department of justice and one of the central arguments in addition to the 14th amendment constitutional issues and of course the idea of the supremacy clause, why it has been so offensive, why it has been sued. and why this district court judge said not on my watch. >> listen, laura, we always listen to you. you have such great insight on these legal matters, and if must say so i had the honor of prereading laura's -- laura, your book is fantastic. it's called just pursuit. i was honored you allowed me to read it earlier than anybody else. i didn't want to put it down. i didn't want it to end. congratulations in advance and we'll talk about your book. i really mean it.
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it was really, really great. thank you, laura. >> don, thank you. look, i don't have on waterproof mascara. stop it. >> it's the truth, though. i don't have as much time to read but this one is really great. if you can get it preordered now, do it. thank you, laura, i'll see you. got other stuff to do. >> thank you, don. possible break through to avoid an economic catastrophe, proposing a short-term deal to raise the debt ceiling but will it be enough to end the deadlock? we are the next. the next generation of visionaries. rule breakers. game changers. and world beaters. we certainly aren't here to do what's been done before. and neither are we. at palo alto networks, we are ready
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republican leader mitch mcconnell appearing to blink before the u.s. government is set to run out of money to pay its own bills. now proposing potential options to avert default by passing an emergency debt limit extension into december. looks like democrats will go along with it. i want to bring in ron brownstein and laura barone lopez. good evening to both of you. who is actually in charge here, republicans or democrats? trying to figure that out. that is the question. laura, it appears the country is avoiding economic collapse for now but the white house is asking why kick the can down the road so much time and energy wasted and we'll be back right here in a few months. isn't that why everyone hates washington? >> it's a big reason why people
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don't like d.c. yeah, that's right. and it does -- >> as you broadcast to us from d.c. >> from d.c. look, i love d.c. i personally love living here. capitol hill aside. but this definitely sets up a big battle in december. democrats, you know, majority leader schumer and others came out of the meeting saying that they only took part of mcconnell's offer that they are still not going to pass the debt limit or increase through the reconciliation process, which is what republicans initially wanted and mcconnell wanted to see them do because he could make it a painful process by voting it out and putting out amendments but democrats say that will only take part of his offer and do this outside of reconciliation. again, it will be a big issue come december. >> yeah. ron, go on. what were you -- what did you want to say? >> the answer to your question really is that republicans are maintaining a veto over what
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democrats do solely because of the choigs choice -- primarily because of the choice of two democrats. i mean, joe mansion and kyrsten sinema really have watched over the last ten days as you seen maybe the most egregious modern example of abuse in the filibuster. mitch mcconnell created a heads and tails i win, you lose situation where he said on the one hand democrats have to provide all the votes to raise the debt ceiling. that's not particularly unusual when republicans had unified control under bush, democrats did not provide many or in several cases any votes to raise the debt ceiling. the twist that mcconnell added was an oh, yeah, while i say the majority party has all the responsibility, we'll retain a veto by filibustering your attempt to raise the debt ceiling, which democrats pointedly did not do under bush. and under trump when they could have filibustered raising the debt ceiling, they provided as many or more votes to raise it
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as republicans did. so mcconnell took one step back as they came to the brink but i think this is the clearest example of how on so many issues, basically anything that can't be shoe horned into reconciliation, democrats particularly mansion and sinema are providing leverage to the point you can ask that question legitimately, what is running washington? the majority democrats or minority republicans? >> will this be enough time, ron, for democrats to get their act together and pass president biden's build back better package? >> you would think. i'm curious what laura thinks. you would think between now they would get a deal between now and december or they're not going to get one at all. there are a lot of ways to try to get a deal. you know, one thing politicians can do very well is find a mid point between two different numbers. there are a lot of creative ways to do that. we talked last friday. the idea that you can get a political two-for by starting programs and getting credit for
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that and phasing them out to save money allowing you to go back, if you like universal prek and the tax credit, you have to reelect a democratic congress to give them to you. one thing that's not talked about a lot, a trillion dollars or more of the 3.5 trillion are actually tax cuts. so could you convince manchin and sinema you're holding down spending and still get the total up somewhere north of $2 trillion by treating the tax cuts differently? if they're not going to get a deal by thanksgiving, they're not going to get -- >> what i find interesting -- >> that's the challenge -- >> if you look -- >> that's not a challenge. >> if you look at the polling in both states, it shows voters want these two things to go through. right? they want the -- or they want the infrastructure package in both states, i should say. laura, i want you to respond to
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that but you're reporting the white house is seriously entertaining across the board cuts to biden's social safety net package. is that going to be enough to get a price tag everyone can agree with? >> well, so that's the tricky part here, don. the white house prefers across the board cuts because they know there are so many items in this package that democrats across, you know, moderate, progressives want but there are probably going to be a few big items that end up on the chopping block because it is going to be hard to get down to that range that manchin and sinema are saying they're willing to support and it is manchin and sinema that are pushing the party towards this smaller number. manchin even today kept reiterating that he is not for anything above 1.5 trillion. now, that's a lot of posturing going on from manchin, from
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sanders. but again, the white house is trying to continually talk to not just the two senators but also keep an open communication with senators in the house, because after last week they're trying to rebuild a bit of trust with house democrats who were pretty frustrated with how everything unfolded. i am hearing to be honest a lot of optimism from democrats feeling as though they're starting to right the ship a bit, and they think they can make the new deadline nancy pelosi set at the end of the month. >> all right, thank you both. see you soon. so speaking of deadlines as laura just mentioned there's a key deadline tomorrow for trump insiders to comply with subpoenas issued by the house committee investigating january 6th. problem is one of them can't even be found. where you can pay a little less and enjoy the ride a little more. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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the show, today marks nine months since rioters attacked the capitol. tomorrow is the deadline for some of the key insiders to turn over documents. but multiple sources tell cnn the committee has not been able to find former deputy chief of staff dan scavino to serve the subpoena. and tonight we're learning the facebook whistle-blower will be interviewed by the january 6th committee. wow, there are a lot of developments. good evening to you, congressman. we all remember the image of you in the chamber during the insurrection. the select committee hasn't been able to find dan scavino, but the deadline is looming. what kind of information are you hoping the committee gets from these trump allies? >> hi, thanks, don. thanks for having me on. i think the key take away for folks at home here is if you think the danger and donald trump and his key allies and
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cronies is gone not only to the american people but to our democracy writ large you are sorely mistaken. they clearly don't want to say what they know. they're clearly avoiding the legal process here. and even more so than that they continue to scoff at rule of law. if we don't have rule of law in america, we have nothing. we certainly can't have a democracy. and here we have in essence president trump, a former president explicitly ordering his top advisor to not comply with a lawful, legal subpoena. if that doesn't trouble folks i don't know what will. >> congressman, are you concerned that the committee won't have enough substantive findings about the truth before we're in the middle of another campaign season? >> there's a lot of information the committee has already gathered. what we have to remember is this was a crime that was committed in front of the american people. it was televised live on tv. as you mentioned i was sitting there trapped in the house gallery with my colleagues. it was filmed live.
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we have over 140 police officers, metro police and u.s. capitol police officers who are brutally beaten, several who died after their injuries from the attack. and we have a continued extremist movement in america that continues to spread because 06 the big lie and donald trump's incitement. so there's plenty of evidence and plenty of facts out there. now, it is important that we actually find out who was talking to donald trump and what they were saying. and that's why we formed this committee that had subpoena power to gather that information. so if they continue to disregard the subpoenas, i'm going to highly encourage the authorities to pursue criminal contempt. because, frankly, that's what would happen to any american. if you refuse any american right now, if you refused a subpoena, there are consequences for you. so there darn well should be consequences for the president and his top enablers and cronies here. >> congressman, rioters shouted
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hang mike pence on january 6th but now he's down-playing the danger, just calling it a day in january. and trumping is saying the real insurrection was on november 3rd not january 6th. i mean these are lies, but millions of americans, unfortunately, will believe it. how do you stop -- how do we stop the reframing of the insurrection and the danger of january 6th? >> accountability, number one. there needs to be truth and accountability. and that's what the january 6th commission is about. that's why we continue to go out in our communities and tell the truth and stand up against those lies, push back on the false media and conspiracy theories sold on social media and other places. but it's hard. i'm not going to sugar coat this at all. this was a hard challenge that our democracy is facing. and i think we have to understand something really important here not only the
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risks but especially acute in a former president. i hear people say we're a nation of rule of law and no person is above or below the law even a president. it's not even. it's especially a president. the more power you have in this system the more important it is for you to be held accountability and to be subject to accountability in truth. so we'll not stop pursuing that truth in the house of representatives. >> congressman crow, always a pleasure. thank you very much. court documents reveal who helped play a key role in the far right conspiracy outlet, one america news. and apparently it involves at&t executives. a chip in your windshield... trust safelite. this couple was headed to the farmers market... when they got a chip. they drove to safelite for a same-day repair. and with their insurance, it was no cost to them. >> woman: really? >> tech: that's service the way you need it. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪
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at&t executives played a key role in the birth of far-right conspiracy channel one america news according to the network's founder. this and other details coming from court documents reviewed by cnn. oan is notorious for pushing misinformation, promoting the big lie and propping up the former president. it is as corrosive to our democracy as anything we have seen from facebook. so just look at some of what aired on that channel. >> if anyone can fight this fight and root out corruption it's donald trump. >> we found multiple crimes in the ukraine the bidens have committed. >> one ballot equals a vote how do we get decimals? >> in north dakota election fraud, okay? this is on a crime of history. >> some find it difficult to believe five states decided to stop counting votes on election night. >> they cheat on the elections. they don't need votes. >> okay.
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so listen, i have to note here that at&t is the parent company of cnn and joining me now cnn's media reporter oliver dorsey. good evening. thank you for joining. this is interesting. what are you learning about at&t's relationship with oan? >> we knew that they have strong ties to good journalism and this network. but apparently they have strong ties to a far-right wing conspiracy channel. at&t executives played a strong role, a key role in the founding of this network, one america news, which promotes all sorts of nonsense as you just showed, regarding vaccines, nonsense regarding the big lie. frankly, nonsense we spend a lot of time on this platform debunking. this is all according to oan's founder in court documents over a number of years for giving the idea of starting a conservative news channel. he said that executives wanted a competitor to fox.
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reuters published a report today explaining how at&t helped to build up this channel. reuters also cited a sworn testimony from an oan accountant which said that according to the accountant about 90% of oan's revenue was due to at&t deals, deals with at&t on platforms. this is causing a lot of controversy, especially as we talk about facebook and the poison it injected into our democracy. i want to read to you a statement from the naacp just came out. the president says, we are outraged to learn that at&t has been funneling tens of millions of dollars into oan since the network's inception. it says, as a result, at&t has caused irreparable damage to our democracy. the press should inform the american public with facts, not
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far-right propaganda and conspiracy theories, according, don, to derrick johnson, the president of the naacp who added that he is, quote, sickened by these revelations. >> do they name names? when you said executives, do they name names of the executives in this report, or no? >> there are thousands of court pages, frankly, don. so there are a lot of details regarding this. but there are names that are named. >> what's at&t saying? >> at&t is come out with a lengthy statement. it gets into these details that is confusing to explain on television. it says at&t has never had a financial interest in oan's success and does not fund oan. when at&t acquired directv refused to carry oan on that platform and oan sued directv as a result. four years ago directv reached an agreement with oan as it has with other hundreds of other
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channels and oan did with other tv providers, it says, directv offers a wide variety of programming including many news channels with variety of viewpoints but it doesn't dictate or control programming on the channels and continues to say that the decision to review oan will be up to directv which is a separate company of at&t. i should say we followed up on this statement with an at&t spokesperson. very specific questions on the actual reporting that we did and that reuters did and that spokesperson, frankly, deflected. >> okay. having said what you just said, does at&t still distribute the network? is oan receiving any money from the company? >> yeah. so oan is distributed, don, by at&t platforms. >> thank you. appreciate it. breaking news tonight. a federal judge issuing an order that blocks the six-week abortion ban in texas. we will go through what happens next in just a moment. ng at home more often
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