3.8 or 9 trillion and now it's down to 1.75 or 1.8. it's hard not to get caught up in the numbers as opposed to the contents. jayapal thinks it will get done son. "don lemon tonight" starts right now. hey, don. >> when you talk about the number -- good evening to you, sir. when you talk about the number of people believe they're doing god's work. i'm not sure that matters if they want to believe it or do believe it. they believe it in some sense, right? >> they're taking action on it. some would say michael, don't be so ridiculous, they know it's bogus, they're trying to make it more difficult for people not part of their constituency to cast a ballot. 60% think it was stolen. it gives them the power to go out in a state like pennsylvania and say that secretary of state position, let's make it an

elected gig. >> you talked about this before on your radio show and weekend show here on cnn about and i've often wondered if it's -- are people being co-opted, their being exploited by right wing media or is it that they want to be? is it naive? is it a combination of all three of all? >> the air waves, maybe a subject for a different day but where people are -- don, i watch you. i watch everything. i'm constantly using that clicker and listening to all perspectives. too many among us, they're just listening to one particular outlet and getting just one take. that's not healthy. >> yeah, so we'll watch you and then watch me and then after they watch me, they'll click over to something else. i got to run. see you tomorrow. nice show. this is "don lemon tonight." we have breaking news now. i want to take you live to the house floor. that's where the vote is set to

happen at any minute now. any minute on whether -- look at that. on whether to refer mark meadows to the doj, the department of justice for contempt of congress. this is unprecedented. i can't believe this is all happening on our watch. this is the time in our history that people write about as we have been saying and this is a time in our history that really shapes the future of where we go and what we consider a working and normal democracy in this country. someone who is a member of that body to be able to defy and all of a sudden now that is not a member of the body to say it doesn't matter what that body does. it's complete hiypocrisy becaus when they remember the body, they want the people to follow the rules. we'll bring that. keep a close eye. you won't miss anything, as soon as that happens. that as we get so many new revelations tonight. they keep coming in one after another. and the more we learn, the more we see the whole thing, the big lie, then president's attempt to

overturn the free and fair election, we see it in a new disturbing light. there is no other way to put it. no matter if you're a staunch trumper, never trumper, completely left leaning democrat, there is no other way to see it or put it unless you want to be. i don't know, misled. liz cheney revealing today that a sitting member of congress was working with jeffrey clashrk, t doj official that helped the then president to come up with a plot to oust the acting attorney general, give himself the job. get the doj to intervene in you guessed it, georgia. to flip the state for trump. >> as mr. meadows' non-privileged text reveal, he was communicating multiple times with a member of congress currently serving colleague of ours who was working with mr.

clark. mr. meadows has no basis to refuse to testify regarding those communications. he is in contempt. >> it is outrageous. adam schiff reading out a text, we don't know who it's from. a text praszing clark and saying he'll make a lot of so-called patriots happy. >> one of the texts to meadows on january 3rd came from an unknown colllar and referred to efforts to preplace the leadership efforts. i heard jeff clark is getting put in on monday. that's amazing. it will make a lot of patriots happy and i'm personally so proud that you are at the tip of the spear and i could call you a friend. >> as i said, unless you just want to look the other way. and then there is a text from an unnamed lawmaker the day after

the election, the very next day as a matter of fact putting forth a quote aggressive strategy to overturn the election. >> on november 4th, a member of this body wrote to meadows here is an aggressive strategy, one day after the election. why can't the states of georgia, north carolina, pennsylvania and other republican controlled state houses declare this as b.s. where conflicts and election not called that night and just send their own electors to vote. >> that's the new stuff we're learning tonight. everything that we are learning tonight is on top of what we learned about how the fox propaganda networks laura ingraham, brian kilmeade, sean hannity begged mark meadows to get the then president to put a

stop to the violence. even his own name sake don junior, they knew the truth. they all knee exactly what they were seeing with their own eyes, even though now they're acting like nothing happened. no big towel. tourists. the fraud was everywhere. they were watching live. everyone knew it was wrong. those hosts knew, the trump supporting law mangers knew it. trump's own family knew it. so now what? >> we're watching what you are on the house side and it will be interesting to hreveal the participants involved. >> interesting. it sure will be interesting to find out exactly who said what to whom on january 6th.

>> did you speak with president trump on january 6th? >> yeah, i mean, spoke with the president last week. i speak with the president all the time. i spoke with him on january 6th. i talked with president trump all the time and that's -- i don't think that's unusual. i would expect members of congress to talk with the president of the united states when they're trying to get done the things they told the voters in their district to do. i'm actually kind of amazed sometimes people keep asking this question. i talk with the president all the time. i talked with him last week. >> on january 6th, did you speak with him before, during of -- or after the cap toitol was attack. >> after -- i think after. i'd have to go back. i don't know when those conversations happened but what i know is i spoke with him all the time. >> what had happened was, uh.

[ laughter ] okay. so look, that day i saw what was happening on tv. i called my producers like are you guys watching cnn right now? are you watching air? and then i called my mom and said are you watching cnn? right? not even the president of the united states. but i remember because it sticks out in your mind. i remember what i did for 9/11. i remember getting called into work. can you make it to new york? i don't know. traffic is -- who knows. on days like that, things stick out. and the president of the united states, darn, he just can't remember when he spoke to the president of the united states the day the capitol was attacked by rioters? is the brooklyn bridge still for sale? if you believe that. come on, people. the more we learn about january

6th, the closer we get to the truth about the gop's cult leader and echo chamber personalities. >> for a party such as the republican party, my parents were members of, for them to turn the whole apparatus over to one person means you no longer are a part of what you're now and that is what is happening and it's time for the right thinking people in this country to step away from cult worship. >> never forget what this is about. this is about an attempted coup, an attempt to overturn the results of our free and fair election. an assault on our democracy itself. we know more now tonight than we ever did before and we're bound to learn a lot more. so now what happens?

cnn's ryan nobles is on capitol hill for us. matter of fact, i remember when i was staying in a hotel because we would be working late buecaue they would be working late to certify the election. i remember pretty much everything about that day. were they going to get it certified? going back and forth with the producers. if he talked with the president of the united states on that day. come on, really. so let's talk about why you're there, ryan. good evening. the house is set to vote any minute to hold mark meadows in contempt. what's the latest, sir from capitol hill? >> that's right, don. this vote has slipped late into the evening because of some procedural hurdles and other bills that have come up on the floor of the house tonight. right now in fact, they are dealing with a couple of procedural votes before they'll pass the bill that will raise the debt ceiling, which of course was a bit of a concern a couple weeks ago but the senate passed their version of that after some debate and now the house will pass it as well so

they will avoid the debt ceiling crash and that calamity that could come with it. after they're done with the debt ceiling, which is about two procedural votes before they get to that point, they'll vote on this criminal contempt referral for mark meadows. they passed a rule to deal with this and had a full debate on it and we expect it will pass largely along partisan lines. there will probably be two republicans that vote yes and that on course will be adam kinzinger and liz cheney members of the january 66th committee. every other republican will probably vote no. the republican leadership is encouraging members to vote no. republican haves largely stuck together when it comes to this. there are enough democratic votes to get this over the finish line. from there it goes to the department of justice will decide whether or not to prosecute but, you know, don, i don't think we can really put enough significance on the fact

that not only was mark meadows a former white house chief of staff as high as you can get in american government in a non-elected capacity, but he was also a member of this body, a member of congress. it is remarkable that this congress which he was a former member of will take this step of holding him in criminal contempt. it's something they don't do often and rarely if ever do to one of their own, don? >> let's talk about some of the evidence that they are presenting. lawmakers revealing new text messages today sent to mark meadows. what did we learn, ryan nobles? >> yeah, it seems like every day we're getting new bits of information out of this trove of documents that meadows shared with the committee voluntarily. he handed these over and said they weren't privileged pieces of information. that's part of what the committee wants to ask about. there were two that stood out to me today during the presentation on the house floor. the first and i think you've played it but i want to read it again. i heard jeff clashlrk is gettin

put in on monday. this is a text from an unknown person to mark meadows ocn january 3rd. that's amazing and will make patriots happy and i'm proud you're at the tip of a spear and i can call you a friend. he's a former department of justice official who is currently under subpoena and has actually already been referred for criminal contempt by the select committee because he too is defiant but he's considered to be one of the key architects inside the department of justice who is attempting to convince the leadership of the department of that time to look into these false claims of fraud in the election results and mark meadows, the fact that he would have been in contact with someone that thought this was a good idea and we know from our reporting he was in direct contact with jeff clark is significant and it shows exactly where the committee is going in terms of their investigation. the other one that's important and it was a small one. it was short but very significant is from a member of congress to meadows where all

they said was please check your signal. so if you're familiar with signal, that is a messaging app that is encrypted and the messages often disappear. so keep in mind this is a member of congress in communication with the sitting white house chief of staff and they were basically saying we'll have a conversation here that won't be recorded in history. mark meadows was a member of the administration. his communication especially with another member of congress, another member of the federal government, that is something that is of the public record that should be stored in the national archives. we had a debate over hillary clinton's emails and the committee is concerned there are many communications mark meadows may have had that have gone to history because he deleted them or used encrypted acts and there is a lot of information they won't get from that. it's part of why they want to talk to him, don.

they want to get him in a room and ask these questions to learn more about the role he played on not only on january 6th but in the days and weeks leading up to what happened here on that day. >> ryan, you'll be there until it happens right? we'll come back to you. you'll be covering it. >> that's right, don. here for you. not going anywhere. >> you're here for the viewers. here for me but here for the viewers. we'll check in if you get new information. let us know we'll get you back on. that's ryan nobles. they know. the lawmakers know that day will stick in their memory. okay? look, i'm sure like you there are days i don't remember, what did i eat for dinner? don't remember where i went. on days like that when there is an insurrection and something happens like 9/11 or a giant tornado that hits the south and midwest, you remember things. it sticks in your mind. they remember. we all do. because we saw it playing out with our eyes and we couldn't believe it and now we are learning more and more about what happened on january 6th but think about this, we didn't know

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breaking news, the vote is set to happen any minute on the capitol floor, on the house fl floor. you're looking at live pictures now. that vote will be whether to refer meadows to the contempt. they refused to show up to answer questions so joining me now, bob woodward, bob is a co-author of the book "peril," the best selling book. bob, thank you for joining. good to see you. >> let's talk about your reporting with carl bernstein including president nixon's chief of staff. how would you assess what is happening now with mark meadows, former president trump and january 6th?

>> i think these are all very significant pieces of the puzzle. and to understand the importance of meadows and his pieces where nixon was the driving spirit and chief of staff was the operator and i remember it was very significant development when we discovered watergate was a holderman operation. he had to do the dirty working the imp henation and turned out he wrote a book after he left office, after he left jail and really turned on nixon. he kept a diary, also, in the case of him.

i don't think he kept a diary but you're dealing with the person meadows has his book out now called "the chief's chief." that's an accurate description. i haven't read the book but the guy that has that job, it's 24/7 you have a president who has ideas who is breathing down your neck fix this, find this, do that and of course we're at the moment on january 6th, very important this this was donald trump taking the position that the election was stolen, that it was fraudulent and as we know, there is no evidence to support that claim. >> what an ego. there is no way i can lose. you did lose. he's lying. the text messages, bob, other

documents turned over by mark meadows paint a very damming picture. if that is what he voluntarily shared, what do you think he doesn't want the committee to see? >> wow, that's -- you really need somebody to testify nothing but the truth. i don't know whether meadows is inclined to do that turning over this much information voluntarily as we know in this process, somebody can always obstruct, delay, refuse to cooperate at least there is partial cooperation and as the text messages show, there is communication with members of congress, presumably republicans. they're working together, their thinking together and this idea

of the fraud leulent stolen election. robert and i spent months looking at this. if we find evidence there was fraud and something was stolen, we would have an obligation to publish it and we looked and looked and discovered that some of trump's biggest supporters, lindsey graham and mike lee of utah investigated these claims. they're on trump eastside and came up with absolutely zero evidence so you know we're still waiting to see that. normally when a politician, a president makes a claim, there is some basis. this case no basis that i have seen at all. >> none. none. you reported extensively for your book "peril," you reported

in that book about the president in president trump's ear leading up to the insurrection like john eastman, steve bannon. was meadows in the loop on the efforts to overturn the election? >> well, he was there. we didn't have much, we didn't have the detail but he's the one that called a meeting in his office, the chief of staff's office down the hall from the oval office with senator lindsey graham and some others and said okay, what have we got here? rudy giuliani, trump's lawyer was there and turned over these incredible documents, which we have published and shared with people where they say tens of thousands of young people voted

when they weren't eligible. it hard to get 18-year-olds to vote. how could you get 10,000 people and again, you look at the names, they submitted names. it does not hold up. it's just not there and when something is not there, then you dig and of course, that's what the committee is doing and i think it's one of the more important investigations congress has conducted ever. >> yeah, agreed. so i've got to ask you about some of the new texts from lawmakers, bob, like the one that talks about and i quote here an aggressive strategy to overturn the election. it wasn't just trump or white house officials or his allies at the doj. it was also members of congress. how does the scope of this compare to watergate? in watergate you have the

president and a few people but how does the scope of this one compare to that? >> it's much larger. i think the central mystery and it still is a mystery, who were the operational cord y-- coordinators? in this case on january 6th when is the law and constitution designating that is the day and 1:00 is the time when they will certify who won the presidency. so they found that moment a thousand people, how did -- who got 1,000 people together? certainly not donald trump and i would like to know and lots of people. there are names out there we don't know because to do this

and execute it is horrifying as it is, it's an organization. it just didn't happen and so you need all these communication links and what meadows provided is very significant and they're saying january 6th committee has lots of people cooperating, lots of people to talk to, knock on doors and invite them to come tell their story and if they've been charged unfairly, clear their name. >> yeah, i got a long quote i want to read for you here about general kellogg testifying today that he was a national security advisor to the former vice president mike pence. you reported on his interactions on trump on january 6th. this is a quote from the book about what happened when he went to see trump in the oval office

to tell him about what was happening and that pence was safe. okay? mr. president he added, yo u sh should do a tweet. on capitol hill nobody is carrying a tv on their shoulder. this is out of control. they're not going to be able to control this, sir. they're not prepared for it. once a mob starts turning like that, you've lost it he said. so yeah, trump said, trump blinked and kept watching television. >> yes, and here general kellogg a true trump loyalest, somebody who is national security advisor to pence and you know, what is pence doing now? is he cooperating? people around him seem to be doing what kellogg has done here. i think very significant that somebody in this position would be telling what happened and our

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non-privileged, they are texts that mr. meadows has turned over and they are evidence of president trump's supreme dereliction of duty for 187 minutes and mr. meadows testimony will bear on another fundamental question before this committee and that is whether donald j. trump through action or inaction corruptly sought to obstruct or impede congress' official proceeding to count electoral votes. >> what she's saying there corruptly sought to obstruct or impede an official proceeding, she now repeated that a few times. she's referencing a criminal statute. >> section 1512 don, yes. this is a statute that the justice department has used or attempted to use with a number of the actual insurrectionists.

it tends to be historically used for witness tampering type things. we've never had an attempt to stop certification of the electoral college votes. we never had this kind of violence in the capitol. so d.o.j. is using thisrecently in the district court in washington d.c. held that it can be used for january 6th and defendants across the country have been saying listen, it's improper. this isn't supposed to be used for counting of electoral votes and this judge said no, it's an official proceeding, a, and b, you don't actually have to be damaging evidence or tampering with witnesses or destroying documents so long as you corruptly attempt to impede those votes. that's enough to get past a motion to dismiss the indictment. so that's the question. i think for donald trump, it will come down to whether the

concept of corruptly typical donald trump can apply to him or will he say listen, i thought that mike pence had this power, i didn't mean to do what people think i meant to do. it wasn't my fault. i didn't know. and that's really been an argument that has done well for him in a civil litigation realm before he took the white house and then also with the various investigations that went on including the impeachments while he was president. >> just for just for a little bit, what has happened that the truth doesn't matter, the law doesn't matter, it doesn't apply to me because i'm not getting what i want. i will continue to defy the law. look, what is -- have you ever seen anything like this in your -- the years you have been doing what you do? it just seems -- it's crazy to me. >> well, you know what? you know, don, as i tell my law

students, if -- a speed limit doesn't actually make people slow down. it's the consequences for speeding, right? so if there is something hiding in the bushes a machine that will put the ticket in the mail the neglixt time you drive down that street you slow down. what are the consequences for blowing through the stop signs and red lights we call the united states constitution and there aren't any. people have become emboldened. it started in the white house and the u.s. congress and it's leaked into the courts and this was the problem with the 60 lawsuits from a law professor stand point and a lawyer's standpoint. these lawyers time and again floated the basics. then you have people publicly, members of congress and others claiming and politicians and, you know, trump loyalists claiming that these are legitimate, claiming for example that mark meadows can raise executive privilege.

we can have a half an hour conversation about how bogus that argument is as a legal matter but when regular people hear it over and over again, it sounds like there is something there. there isn't. >> there is nothing there. what donald trump has injected into society is just -- it's yet to be seen. the magnitude of the dishonesty and litigation and on and on and on corruption that he is injected into this society. i don't know if we'll ever go back to normalcy or if we'll ever get over it. >> well, no, and it's also the enablers and the problem is and i think liz cheney understands this very well, the problem is we might see the end of democracy in the coming years. january 6th was no joke. and it could happen again successfully and that's why all of this voting legislation is so important and that's why the midterms are absolutely vital because if the u.s. congress goes to the republicans, this

process, the january 6th commission will probably stop and if we have another january 6th with the republican congress and a democrat who wins the electoral college, we could see a successful over throw of the voters. not politicians, the voters and that is the end of american democracy when votes are cancelled, ignored, thrown out. we're no longer we the people. it's we the powerful. >> i love having these conversations with you, we'll have you back and continue on because there is a lot more to talk about. thank you so much. appreciate it. >> thank you, don. >> more than 800,000 people, 800,000 people, 800,000 people dead from coronavirus in the united states. now, there are concerns growing over the omicron variant as an explosion of cases hits cornell university. is it a sign of what's to come? not again. oh no.

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so breaking news as we told you it would happen, the house has begun voting on the resolution to hold mark meadows in contempt of congress. it will take awhile for them to count the votes and go through the process but again, they're voting now to hold mark meadows in contempt of congress. we said it was going to happen so there we go. we'll talk about it. we have breaking news about the united states reporting more sadly than 800,000 deaths from covid-19 since the start of the pandemic. that grim as omicron is on its way to becoming the dominant coronavirus variant in this country. cornell university shutting down the campus after reporting more than 900 cases of covid in students. more than 900 cases of covid

during the past week. a lot to discuss with dr. peter hotez, professor and dean of tropical medicine at baylor. thank you. wow. more than 800,000 people and now we have cornell university more than 900 students that tested positive this week. these students were fully vaccinated. school says most of the cases are the omicron variant. how contagious is this variant and how effective are the vaccines against it, sir? >> some tough news today. that 800,000 number isn't slowing. we're headed for a million american deaths by the first quarter of next year of 2022 tragically because of so many people refusing vaccinations. so park that one and then now we have the fact the omicron variant is rising faster than exp

expected. when you look at the delta variant, we had a four to six week lag before things start picking up. i had thought this wouldn't be accelerating like this until january but it's starting. we heard pretty startling news from the cdc director what row sh -- rachial walensky, this is going to be upon us before christmas. one of the things we're looking for, one, we saw a lot of pediatric hospitalizations in south africa with the omicron variant. that's one of the things i'm looking for. i'm worried about our children's hospitals, we'll see a lot of pediatric cases, maybe more so

than previously. the other is hearing if you get three doses of the vaccine you get a big bump in the protective immunity against symptomatic illness, 70 to 75% is coming out of the u.k. that's not as high as 95%. that means we'll see a lot of break breakthrough symptomatic covid and the good news out of germany showing virus neutralizing antibodies declined quickly. 70 to 75% is the high point and that it could come down accordingly. so the reason i bring that up is because i think we're going to -- we could see a lot of health care workers in our hospitals who actually have symptomatic covid and not so much that they're going to get very sick and go to the hospital but it's going to knock them out of the work force. so that could create a very destabilizing situation where you have a lot of people going into the hospital but not enough people taking care of them.

so that's -- so there's a lot of moving parts to this very, very fast moving epidemic here in the united states and i think we have to take it very seriously and especially our health care administrators, our hospital administrators need to get ready for a very concerning surge over the next few weeks. >> it is very concerning. listen, so concerning there is much more to speak with you about. doctor, if you stick around, i want to get back with you after the break. we're coming up on 800,000 people. the doctor says it's going to go to about a million people will die because of covid-19. we have 900 students testing positive at cornell university and we heard from dr. rachial walensky. the vote has begun. mark meadows former chief of staff, the house is voting whether to hold him in contempt of congress, criminal contempt

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so as we watch the vote on the house floor, we'll talk with dr. hotez because we have this news. we said we'll talk about what the cdc director said. she said the science is evolving saying today the omicron variant is doubling every two days or so, meaning it may become the dominant variant in the united states sooner rather than later. it may prove to haveless severe symptoms but the rapid spread means a lot more people could get it. so what does that mean for our population and our hospital system? you said before the break it

will take a toll, correct? >> yeah, i think that's the weak link that not enough people are talking about because if you have a lot of health care providers, don, who are getting sick with covid even though they have gotten a third dose, if they have a breakthrough infection, even if they're mild, it's enough to knock them out of the work force. the question is, you know, what is going to fill the gap and i think we don't really have a adequate planning or thought enough about the potential for that surge on our hospitals in light of partially incapacitated work force. that's how aggressive this omicron variant is. so even though the reports it's mild illness and hard to count on that because we've had reports early on with the alpha and delta variant that didn't turn out to be true and we also are seeing a lot of children get hospitalized. so i'm particularly worried about some of the children's

hospitals, as well. i think we need very careful planning at this point. the other possibility to think about, don, is if vaccine immunity against the omicron variant is declining quickly even after a third dose, should we think in order to stabilize the health care work force and keep them in the work force, whether they should be considered for a fourth immunization. >> oh, boy. >> i think that has something that has to be put on the table, as well. >> doctor -- >> just to keep them going. >> it's hard enough people to get one or two, now -- >> i know. i know it. >> thank you, doctor. appreciate it. we have to get to breaking news. see you soon. the house voting whether to refer mark meadows to the justice department -- to the justice department excuse me for a criminal contempt of congress. we'll be right back. d. so when my windshield cracked... the experts at safelite autoglass came right to me... with service i could trust. right, girl? >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪

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