we visited, for example, california. they have a different take on some of this because they've been doing it and seeing some really good results and we get into all of that as well as talk to a lot of different drives who have had a lot of issues when it comes to being pulled over and the majority of them are black. erin? >> looking forward to seeing this. don't miss "traffic stop: dangerous encounters" sunday night at 9:00. it's time for anderson. good evening on a busy night that includes a massive snowstorm about to hit the eastern seaboard. we begin with breaking news in the january 6th investigation. the house select committee is now taking direct aim with subpoenas at the former president's scheme to get around the problem of losing the electoral college by putting forth his own bogus electors. listen to stephen miller at the

time laying out the game plan. >> as we speak today, an ultimate slate of electors in the contested states is going to vote and we'll send those results up to congress. this will ensure that all of our legal remedies remain open. >> that was december 2020 and that same day in michigan, some of those re-electors tried to gain attendance to the state capitol as the legitimate electors were of convened inside. they were blocked by police. so as comical it might have looked on the surface, it was an openly stated plan. there they are, not how do you feel names perhaps, junior officers on their failed assault on democracy. they would have to provide documents by the 11th of next month in addition to appearing for depositions. with us is hector bo ler ross in new mexico.

good evening. i wonder what your reaction is to the news by this. seems to be on a parallel track to this fake electors scam >> i think it's prudent. thank you for having me, first of all, this evening. i think it's prudent. there are multiple investigations in multiple states both at the state and federal level. but i also think law enforcement has been paying close attention to the select committee. we are watching very closely because we're trying to determine, really, what the intent was of these electors and conspiracy seems to be the greatest risk at this point. but at this point we're just gathering information, evidence, and we are thinking about how best to apply the rule of law in a very unconventional and peculiar situation. >> new mexico was one of the states targeted with these fake electors. you were one of the state attorneys general who referred the case to the justice department. what do you think will actually come of it?

do you expect the people involved will be charged? what would charges actually be? >> well, i want to be clear, these investigations are not targeting lawful auditing, free speech. every american has a right to protest, challenge, litigate, and sue in a court of law. what is brazen is that there might have been some type of coordinated effort by a small group of individuals, and we really believe when we confirm some of this conduct in each respective state that the doj was the best positioned to gather the evidence because of the multistate, multijurisdictional challenges in gathering all of this information just to determine what happened. >> is it clear to you who was on top of this pyramid? i mean, can we assume that the president of the united states at the time was in the loop on this scheme? >> well, first i want to remind

all americans, we have a very unique electoral system. it's a combination of state law and federal law, and ultimately it's intended to bring voters together with poll workers and ultimately to certify a president at the federal level front of congress. and so it's a multifaceted process. if americans were just acting freely and challenging within their own state elections, i believe that would be appropriate. but if there was a coordinated effort by an elite group involving two or more individuals and they took overt actions to subvert or commit fraud on the united states, that would be a serious risk to our government and to our democracy. that is why we need to investigate and we're monitoring the select committee as they produce information and evidence. >> if that were the case, if it was, you know, an orchestrated thing from an elite group, not

just a thing we're doing in individual states, that would be illegal? >> it would be illegal because what we're trying to review now, where these independent electors acting on their own fruition, independent within their rights, or were they being coerced, forced, pressured into taking action they wouldn't take otherwise? i will remind our country, the electors and the rules engaging electors is rather simple. we have winner-take-all states, and these electors take an oath to certify the elections that is a reflection of the will of the people. and so for some reason, the seven states took a different route, and it's important right now to get to the bottom of it to see if there was a conspiracy behind some of those questionable conduct. >> but that conduct in order -- the wording you're using, i just want to drill down on it a little bit.

that conduct that these individuals and the states took, it would be illegal only if they were coerced by others or pressured? if they were just asked by others and jumped at the chance to do this, would that -- does there have to be a level of coercion? >> doesn't have to be coercion in order for it to be a federal crime there has to be an overt act and there has to be an agreement or coordinated effort. i think right now -- this is why i'm being cautious with our investigation. we're supportive right now of state investigative authorities getting involved and completing their investigation. we have already turned over information to the u.s. attorney's office. but at the end of the conclusion of the gathering of facts, there absolutely needs to be an application of federal law to make that determination whether we do think it was a conspiracy or not.

and yes, we're kind of already sparsing out facts between you and i, but criminal intent would be required. but what might appear as a normal factual, you know, nothing important could be turned into a conspiracy later on. so it's really important for us to drill down, but it's too premature to determine what level of criminal culpability could exist. >> if there are not charges or legal repercussions, is there anything to prevent something like this from happening again? >> well, that's the both beauty and weakness of our electoral system. the will of the people is a guarantee and this is why we have the rules and that in new mexico we had well over 100,000 votes cast for the presidential victor: yet we had these submissions that were in alternative process. but the subversion of the will of the people, which is just an

accounting, really could then our democracy. and so it's very important. we've looking at penalties both in state and the federal statutes, and they're not very clear. i think that congress will at least learn from this incident and if there's any direct correlation to some of the rioting and some of the violence, the other election guarantee is the peaceful transition of power and clearly that was under duress. we'll make these much more clear. >> attorney general, appreciate it. thank you. there is late word as well tonight of another subpoena, this one very high-profile, very close to the former president on january 6th. gloria borger joins us now, jeffrey toobin. what have you learned? >> former deputy white house press secretary has been subpoenaed by the committee because he was in the white

house january 5th and january 6th, and they believe that he can shed a lot of light about the president's state of mind during those two days. he was involved in issuing, say, releases from the white house, also about the violence, about the insurrection. i think there's a question about whether he was there when the president taped his infamous video to the american public. but specifically, one thing they point out that is so telling is a meeting inside the white house on january 5th. the president called in his staff, and you could hear the crowds outside. and the president said to his staff, you know, there's a lot of anger out there right now. and then he also said and asked them, what are your ideas for getting the rinos, republican in name only, for getting them to do the right thing tomorrow?

how do we convince congress? so this is what he is telling his staff, and that speaks directly to what the president was thinking at that moment, which is asking everyone how can we turn this election around after it already had been had? >> jeff, what's the instance of this? how important are these smaller actors in terms of not knowing perhaps widely, but also in the room where it happened. >> what makes someone like deere important is this congressional investigation is fundamentally, i think, about donald trump and what did donald trump do to initiate the riot in the capitol, what did he do to stop it, if anything, and what did he know about how violent it would become. so the critical evidence will be people who had some access to him, and deere is someone who had access to him.

it's important to remember also, there are going to be hearings. and the congress is going to need -- the committee is going to need witnesses who can tell a story that will be compelling to the american people. i don't know if deere is going to one of those people, we'll see if he agrees to testify. if he does, he could tell a story that's very important. >> gloria, we heard earlier in mark meadows' right hand was being -- seems like people are smaller players in terms of where they are in their careers, not well-known names, they don't have the same resources of attorneys and willingness to fight a prolonged battle that a steve bannon has or even a mark meadows may have. it's interesting because that's sort of a weak link in terms of

if the white house hopes to have a wall of silence, that's kind of some weak bricks in that wall. >> sure. we talked to people on the committee and what they tell you is that people have just come in over voluntarily saying i want to tell you what i saw at the white house. i want to tell you what i heard at the white house. and it's not just, you know, the bright, shiny objects. meadows' documents have been important, but it's the people who worked for mark meadows, the people who were in and out of the oval office, it is the people who stand in the back of the room when the president is saying something. and the place was insane that day, as one person said. so you can just imagine the kind of testimony they're getting. and what they're trying to do, piece it together. so they subpoenaed judd deere because he perhaps didn't want to come in voluntarily, but he

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. the winter storm about to hit a big part of the country. amtrak just canceled because of how bad things could get tonight and through weekend. the national weather service talked about feet of snow, near-zero visibility, high winds, and flooding in a massive area affecting 75 million people. with the latest, tom sater. let's talk about what's ahead. >> well, for days now about almost five days we knew a storm was coming. but we didn't know how much snow we were going to get. now that the storm has formed on the southeastern coast of the u.s., we know it's going to be historic. we got high confidence. but let's take a look at boston. when you look at two-day snow event, the greatest snowfall, 1978, that held the record for decades. we beat it in 2003. this is a one-day snow event, so let's look at one-day totals for boston. and again, it's that 2003. everybody talks about global warming, how can we have all this snowfall coming, that's just global warming, a warming

atmosphere holds more moisture, which falls to the ground as heavier rain or snowfall. look at these years, 2015, 2003. i mean, this is going to be an event that is going to be crippling for many, but extremely dangerous and life-threatening. we weren't sure what path it was going to take, hug the coast and push the snow to i-95? or was it going to hang out to sea and not provide much at all. it's heading right to the sweet spot. it gives the heaviest snowfall for new england. not much in washington, d.c., but it's ocean city, you'll get several inches. philadelphia, still pretty good. talk about 4 to 8 inches, but it's atlantic city, 12 to 18. new york, that's a hefty total for you, but it's eastern long island. boston, that's the heart of the storm. easily 2 or 3 feet of snowfall, rhode island as well, coastal maine. coastal fronts bringing the cold air. it's light snow with this. this is all you're going to get

in areas. the sleet and freezing rain will not fall with this storm on the coast. that's all out to sea. that means this is all snowfall. so overnight tonight it moves north and it starts to crank. tomorrow it really feeds off these warm waters in the gulfstream, so it's going to create a bombing effect, almost like a hurricane. it will drop to a category 2 hurricane pressure. with that it's all snowfall. it's a one-day event, but we're going to see bands of snowfall that are more than 1 or 2 inches per hour, possibly 5 inches per hour. that's staggering. depends on where the snow bands form. you're going to see lightning, hear thundersnow. warning is in effect, but it's the ten states with the blizzard warnings. for a blizzard, you need winds of at least 35 miles per hour. they'll be stronger than that. that's going to cause a lot of issues, anderson. >> tom sater, thank you very much. breaking news to report in the u.s. response to a threat of

another russian invasion of ukraine after the pentagon warned an invasion would be horrific. president biden spoke to reporters about when u.s. troops would be moved into eastern europe. >> have you decided how soon you would be moving u.s. troops to eastern europe? >> i'll be moving u.s. troops to eastern europe and the nato countries in the near term. >> again, the president is saying u.s. troops will be moving to nato countries in eastern europe, no specific timetable given. comments came the same day as he and his ukrainian counterpart appear to be publicly at odds about how imminent the threat may be. ukraine's president pushed back on the idea, quoting his translator now, there's a feeling abroad that there's war here. that's not the case. a senior ukrainian official tells cnn a call last night between him and president biden, quote, did not go well. the white house disputes that account and it also sees events differently. the president's top military

adviser said today that compared to our previous movements, this time feels different. and he laid out in stark terms when what an invasion would look like. >> given the type of forces, the ground maneuver forces, the artillery, the ballistic missiles, the air forces, all of it packaged together, if that was unleashed on ukraine, it would be significant, very significant. and it would result in a significant amount of casualties, and you can imagine what that might look like in dense, urban areas, along roads and so forth. it would be horrific. it would be terrible. >> a lot of conflicting information. joined by retired general mark hurtly, former commanding january fortunate u.s. army in europe and by steve hall. generally, i wonder what your reaction is to the president saying he will send troops to nato countries in the near term.

how significant is that? >> i don't think it's very significant at all, anderson. in fact, i suspected that it would happen. when the early discussions were ongoing, the president and the national security apparatus were talking about waiting for a nato call forward for the nato response force. we don't need that. the united states does not need that. we have alliances and partnerships in many of the eastern european countries and for the last six years, in fact, even when i was there as commander of europe, we were beginning to build bases in many of the eastern european countries like romania, bulgaria, poland, the baltics. you can move to those locations without going under nato control and we've been practicing that for the last six cesar steve, we've seen reports of friction between washington and kyiv. the biden administration describing a russian invasion as, quote, imminent, while the president of ukraine trying to portray the situation as

dangerous but not as dire. how much of this do you think is actually a disagreement and how much is just sort of different emphasis? ukraine obviously has been living with the threat. they've had russian forces in crimea for quite some time now. they've lost thousands of troops over the last several years. and they also don't want the economy ruined as they're waiting for whatever vaush going to do. >> anderson, to a certain extent, it might be a bit of how many angels dance on the head of a pin, some semantics involved. but i think another factor is sort of internal ukrainian politics. you know, ukraine is still a new democracy, and there's a lot of political maneuvering that's going on behind the scenes. you may recall a number of days ago the former president poroshenko returned. he's a very nationalistic type of guy. i think the current ukrainian president zelensky is probably aware that have and aware there

are others who are eager to criticize how he's handling the situation. so there's some domestic internal politics in ukraine, and he's walking -- it's a fine line he's walking. his country is under threat of invasion. i mean, our military leadership says you don't amass 100,000 troops for no reason, so zelensky is not correct if he says everything is going to be fine. we just don't know yet. but he doesn't want to kill his country's economy, mass exodus, that sort of thing. so he's in a bit of a difficult circumstance. >> and how could vladimir pu putin -- clearly he's interested in exploiting any wedges that exist between ukraine and the united states, between nato countries, between politicians in the united states. >> yeah, any opportunity that putin has to point out even the smallest of differences, he will milk for everything because, of course, from the 30,000-foot

level right down to in the weeds, that has been his primary plan is to divide the west, divide western democracies so as to weaken them. he'll take every opportunity no matter how small, whether it's a difference between allies or whether it's something larger. he will try to stick something in that wedge to make it as wide as he possibly can, and i think he'll use this opportunity as well. it would surprise me if he didn't. >> i want to talk about the russian troops that are stationed at the ukrainian border. we got a troop map there, ukrainian intelligence puts it at 130,000, more arriving every day. there's a lot of focus on the troops at the border and when they start or if they started to move. i heard you say that's not where entirely the focus should be in terms of signs of an invasion. >> yeah, anderson. what i'd say is when you're looking at the russian way of war, they are not going to roll a shock army across the border

in one fell swoop. that's something that he used to do back in the '70s and '80s. they had various echelons of forces. they had a huge army. the resources were strong, but the capabilities were not that good. but russia has changed their way of war. they have learned a lot from us in desert storm and in the early days of iraqi freedom and afghanistan. they know they have to prep the battlefield in a very different way. and i think what you will see is certainly a use of cyber, if it hasn't already occurred and i'm banking some of it already has. but in a growing nature. the potential for other things going on in various cities throughout ukraine before that army moves. so anyone that's showing overhead pictures of large tank motor pools and saying look how much stuff they got on the ground, and nothing's going to happen until those start moving, that's not the case. they know they have to prep the battlefield, and they also could potentially even do it kin

netically with long-range air forces. when you're talking about how they wage war, it's not the world war ii approach of sending everyone across the beach to kill as many as possible. they are going to try and disrupt the society of ukraine. they've already started doing that with not only cyber, but with with misinformation. you know, we have seen in the past small elements of cyber warfare. it's limited use of cyber against one type of industry or one part of the government. when you start unleashing cyber in a very big way, it almost becomes like a nuclear weapon. it can get out of control between countries very quickly. and i think we got to be very careful in terms of how we address that and what the russians might do in terms of cyber activity in the near future.

>> interesting. really appreciate it. thank you. coming up next, president biden under increasing criticism for openly pledging to nominee a black woman for it supreme court. the question doesn't amount to a litmus test or him just making a promise and keeping it. also, are his critics open to charges of hypocrisy. we'll talk about it when we continue. [school bus passing by] [kids laughing] [bikes passing] [fire truck siren] [first responder] onstar, we see them. [onstar advisor] okay. mother and child in vehicle. mother is unable to exit the vehicle. injuries are unknown. [first responder] thank you, onstar. [driver] my son, is he okay? [first responder] your son's fine. [driver] thank you.

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the senate democrats falling in line on a notion confirming a successor to supreme court justice stephen breyer. a number of senate republicans are continuing to criticize president biden for limiting his choice to a black woman. senator josh hawley who serves on the judiciary committee typifies in reaction. >> here's what i'm going to do. i'm going to do my duty, which is i swore to uphold the constitution and i'm going to ask whomever joe biden sends up to the committee, i'm going to see if they are a pro-constitution judge, actually believe in the constitution and are willing to follow it. that ought to be the litmus test, not race, not religion, not gender, not anything else, but are you willing to follow the constitution of the united states? >> president biden made a campaign promise to name the first black woman to the high court. now he appears to be keeping it. does that amount to a litmus test? there's one thing to talk about. so is this. in a column for the "wall street journal," law professor jonathan turley seemed to suggest the president's decision would have been fine if he had been a

little less forthright about it. he used threshold exclusions is neither unlawful nor judicially reviewable, yet it's also unnecessary. mr. biden could have maintaining that he would consider all possible candidates on their records. in other words, do it, just don't be entirely hocnest about what you're doing. minority leader mcconnell's suggestion that the president might outsource this important decision to the radical left. two commentators, south carolina state lawmaker bakari sellers, author of the fun and beautiful children's book "who are your people." also scott jennings. i want to play something that former president trump said at a rally in september 2020 about nominating a woman to fill justice ruth bader ginsburg's seat on the court. >> it will be a woman, a very

talented, very brilliant woman. [ cheers ] who i haven't chosen yet, but we have numerous women on the list. >> so what's the difference between that and what biden said? >> no difference, but i happen to agree with professor turley in his op-ed that you referenced that biden is doing a disservice to whoever he picks because the list ai've seen is full of experienced people that can stand on their own without biden having backed into this the way he did. but i don't think republicans should really focus on this. what they really ought to focus on is having full hearts. my heart is full that an african-american woman is going to be on the supreme court because there's not been anybody in washington over the last 36 years who's fought harder against putting african-americans and hispanics on the bench than joe biden. look what he did to clarence thomas. he used the jim crow filibuster,

their words, not mine, against janice rogers brown and priscilla own and miguel estrada. joe biden has an atrocious record, and our hearts should be full that an african-american female can get past skbrbd joe biden's record, so we ought to question them vigorously, look at their qualifications, look at their experience, and that's perfectly fine. but we ought to rejoice that joe biden's decided to stop trying to prevent minorities from making high federal office in this country. >> bakari, i want you to respond to that. keep in mind former gop south carolina governor nikki haley tweeted would be nice if he chose someone best qualified without a race, gender, litmus test. >> my republican colleagues respectfully are just full of it tonight. i'm actually glad that scott's heart is full. it warms me to hear him say that.

however, turley's reasoning was rooted in a white male privilege that many times you don't acknowledge you have. before thurgood marshall, it was a given that every justice nominated to the supreme court was going to be a white male. do we look back at that asization that -- that is some affirmative action. the fact is you played that trump clip, but the republican savior ronald reagan said he was going to appoint a woman to the bench. now we have joe biden saying -- let me just clarify joe biden's record for scott and others. he's actually appointed the most diverse federal judges this country has ever seen, included in that has been the most african-american women to the bench at this rate. so joe biden's record on that, it needs not even being said.

the fact is, the front-runners, michelle childs, ketanji brown jackson, leondra kruger, i mean, they are the best of the best. you're talking about the sentencing commission, an expert in labor law, you're talking about a chief justice or a justice in the california supreme court and clerk for justice stephens. these black women have it all. so i don't want to get into games about discrimination or quotas or affirmative action because it's black women. these women are bad as hell despite what anybody else says. they need to have their voices heard and of the 115 justices ever to the united states supreme court, all but seven are white men. so tonight you can save me white man tears. i don't need to hear that. >> scott, while they minority leader mcconnell's initial reaction be the first nomination of a black woman to the court is somehow going to be tied to the,

quote, radical left? is that sort of a line they're testing out to see if that's kind of what they're going to repeat from now on? why automatically would it be radical left? >> yeah, great question. look, i think the republicans are going to focus on this person's record and experience and stated views. i think there's little doubt that the people joe biden is looking at are all highly qualified and experienced and highly liberal. and some you might call radical in some of their views. that's how the republicans are going to go after this. they're going to put mark kelly and senator warnock and something senators who are in tough election fights this year, they're going to put them on the spot do the voters want to vote for somebody far outside the mainstream and they're going to put joe biden on the spot saying you can't be a moderate but you're setting up highly liberal judges. that's how they're going to set up this debate. it's not going to be over race. i think everybody is going to be very, very pleased that an

african-american woman is going to be on the supreme court. i am, a lot of republicans i know are. i'm not going to agree probably with most any decision this person will ever make because i think joe biden's highly likely to choose a very liberal person. but that doesn't mean we can't be happy about it. but it also doesn't mean we can't have a real conversation here about their views about biden's views and about what that means for the voters in some of these senate states this fall. >> scbakari, we put up the wron book cover when we introduced you. i don't know how that's possible, but here it is again "who are your people" the new children's book out. i read it to my son just the other day, and he enjoyed it. although he's a little young for it. but it's beginning. appreciates it. up next, explanation rife with which republican might face president biden in two years. we have new data about what the 2024 presidential election could look like and how potential

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with more than two years to go until the next presidential election, it's a little early to talk about potential presidential matchups, but since tws harry hinton, it would be fun. new reporting shows president biden's approval rate has declined while also revealing

how people would fare. harry, is it data or data? >> i don't know, and i don't really don't know why i have a title. you can call me dude or something. >> i like -- i'm going with data reporter. the former president is leading the gop field in early 2024 polling. are there any danger signs for the purpose of? >> i do think they are. ron desantis, what do you see? you see that trump's rating is at 72% in a recent poll. among those who have an opinion of both of them, look at that, zro ron desantis has an 83% approval versus trump at 73%. are you more of a supporter of trump or the republican party? you see most republicans said trump, but now, in fact, most republicans say a supporter of

the republican party. so the ground shifting underneath him. >> where do you see the former president's numbers for 2024? >> right now he's tied with joe biden. if you take a look at the polls, they're tied at 43%. i think that's actually quite weak for the former president. the reason why is if you look at generic candidates, a jesus christ democrat versus a jesus christ republican, you see the generic republican is actually leading the generic democrat at this point 47% to 43%. and i think that really just gets at the unpopularity of former president trump at this point. republicans would be better nominating somebody else according to the polls. >> i'm supposed to ask you about the football odds this weekend, even though i don't really know who's playing. >> yeah. we have a slide up here. what's so interesting is we have the logos for the teams. i'm wondering if you actually know who these teams are.

you know, kc, that's kansas city. >> it's chiefs. >> yes, they're still called the chiefs. >> those are the bengals. >> very good. the chiefs are favored over the bengals by nine. >> giants? san francisco giants? >> no, san francisco 49ers. >> oh, i should know that, of course. that's obvious. i don't know the l.a. swirl. the l.a. yellow swirl. >> it's a ram. that's a ram. that's supposed to be a ram, you know. >> have they always been the l.a. chargers? they're the rams. >> these are the rams. there's another team called the chargers, but these are the rams. they used to play in st. louis, before that they played in los angeles. the chargers once played in los angeles, now in san diego, now again in los angeles. los angeles is favored over -- >> sorry i fell asleep for a second. thank you. good to know. i will lay down those odds. >> do whatever you want, man. i love football. it's like talking to you. it's a fun time. >> thank you so much. coming up, an out-of-control

space rocket is on a collision course with the moon. astro physicist neil degrasse tyson tells us what to expect next. it's our january sale on the sleep number 360 smart bed. it senses your movements and automatically adjusts to relieve pressure points. and, it's temperature balancing so you both sleep just right. save $1,000 on the sleep number 360 special edition smart bed, queen now $1,999. plus, 0% interest for 48 months.

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an old rocket launched into space by elon musk spacex corporation may soon crash into the moon. they launched the observatory in 2015. it's been floating around for the last 7 years. it could create a 65 foot crater on the far side of the moon when it crashes in march. neil degrasse tyson joins us. excuse me while i wipe my eyes as i talk to you. how high are the odds of this rocket booster actually crashing into the moon? >> i thought you were getting emotional about the universe. >> i'm not. i don't know what's going on. i'm a wreck. >> i have no reason to doubt the calculations done by others about the trajectory of this

booster. and just so that people understand, this noaa satellite that was originally put into orbit by this booster is one of the more important satellites that we have monitoring not only earth but also space weather, if there are any explosions on the sun how we might have to warn the world for what consequences it would have for our -- how dependent we are on electronics. it turns out that orbital trajectory, that second stage did not -- it lost fuel and could not come back to earth. and so it was adrift in space. and it turns out that there are these sort of fuzzy boundaries between gravitational attract t t ers out there where something can float for a long time and be tugged slowly in one direction or another. in this particular case, it drifted toward the moon, in an arc that will take it to collide with the moon on the back side of the moon.

so, we're not going to be able to see this. but i did a fast calculation. and it'll impact with about the energy of 2% of a stick of dynamite, if you want to get a sense of what that would be. >> oh, wow. that's very small. >> yeah, yeah. so, don't think the moon is going to break apart or anything. the moon has been hit by much worse. >> there's craters on the moon. it's been hit a lot. >> yeah, take a look. the moon will shrug this off, not a problem. >> wow. as the rocket booster -- i mean, it's -- is it so possible that it might not crash into the moon? >> well, these orbital trajectories, you know, as a matter of fact it is rocket science. so, these calculations, you know, we faux had what we're doing when we do that. it's gravity. what makes it a little more interesting is that it's a multibody problem. so, there's sort of chaotic

pathways within there. as we get closer to the march 4th expected collision date, the precise time and the precise arc that takes it there will be known. right now even with the uncertainties being this far in advance, the moon is a large enough target it's not going to miss. there's a whole industry in my field of people observing the unlit side of the moon to see if you can see a flash from meteors that strike it. >> wow. >> you've got to go to the unlit side so that you can notice when the flash occurs. it's on the lit side it's happening all the time. you would never notice it. it's too bad we're not going to be on the other side of the moon to check it out. >> neil degrasse tyson, thank you. we appreciate it. sorry about my watery eyes. >> oh, san francisco giants are baseball, by the way. >> thank you. i appreciate it. extraordinary day in new york, remembering fallen police

officer jason rivera next.

-- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com today the city of new york and the country paid respects to a fallen police officer, jason rivera. thousands police officers turned out today to a service to honor officer rivera. many came from around the country. a sea of blue all in appreciation of a man who made the ultimate sacrifice in the line of duty. officer rivera and wilbur moro were killed a week ago after officers responded to a 911 call at a harlem apartment. his wife also spoke, saying she'd be lost without him. that's it for us. the news continues here on cnn with jim acosta and "democracy in peril." jim? >> anderson, thank you very much for that. i'm jim acosta,