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these folks don't have time to go to the post office they use stamps.com all the services of the post office only cheaper get a 4-week trial plus postage and a digital scale go to stamps.com/try and never go to the post office again. good evening. as increased numbers of russian troops gather near the ukrainian border and key world leaders met today to ward off a possible invasion, president biden and
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germany's chancellor stood before reporters to try to put an end to reports of a divide between the two nato allies. they pronounced themselves unified in their countries' opposition to russian aggression. and both, they and the leaders of france and russia meeting in moscow agreed on the need to find a peaceful conclusion, which means today could be a turning point. or just the calm before the storm. i'm john berman, in for anderson. at the white house, with germany's olaf scholz, president biden said the two countries were unified and that they were working in lockstep. the german leader, at one point, actually switched from speaking german to speaking english to emphasize, quote, we will be united, we will act together. but the effort at chumminess could not hide the fact that they do not, in fact, appear to be totally in lockstep. issues include sending lethal aid to ukraine, and what happens to a multibillion-dollar pipeline, that travels between germany and russia known as nord stream 2, if russia invades. the president was unequivocal. quoting him now. quote, we will bring an end to it. the german chancellor?
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well, he won't even mention the pipeline by name, and he avoided a direct response both during the news conference, and later in an interview with my colleague jake tapper. at the news conference, he chose to, instead, reiterate what he had already said, quote, we are acting together. we are absolutely unified. and while there is a lot of hope for a diplomatic resolution, russia's vladimir putin, after meeting with the french president today, again, blamed ukraine for the conflict. he, again, alleged mistreatment of its russian-speaking citizens, which is something many analysts believe he is just using as a pretext for war. the pentagon, today, said there are now more than 100,000 russian troops in the area, with more arriving every day. and war is exactly what ukraine is preparing for tonight. as cnn's melissa bell who is in ukraine will document for us in our next hour. here is a preview of what they want the world to see. >> sudden will i, the apparent calm left behind by the 1986
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soviet-era accident is broken. ukrainian forces run drills in what remains a radiation exclusion zone, free of any inhabitants. they are practicing urban combat. of course, this is also an information and propaganda war. everyone waits for russian president vladimir putin to decide. >> reminder of what is at stake. let's start at the white house, and cnn's mj lee. mj, the president and german chancellor were clearly hoping to put on a united front today, but seemed to disagree on the critical nord stream 2 pipeline. which would allow russia to export natural gas directly to germany, bypassing ukraine. president biden was forceful saying the pipeline would not go forward in the event of a russian invasion. but the u.s. does not oversee the project, so how exactly would that work? >> yeah, john, it is very clear after today that this pipeline is going to remain a major sticking point, as you said, when president biden was asked about this, he specifically said if russia were to invade
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ukraine, that this pipeline would be no more. i should note, though, when he was pressed how can the u.s. do that? he didn't get into specifics. he just said, well i promise you that this is possible. and then, in real contrast, the german chancellor, when he was asked will you commit to doing away with this pipeline, not letting it go forward if an invasion were to occur? he didn't make that commitment. he talked about it in broader terms, saying you know, our front is going to be noounited. we are going to be on the same page. but that lack of commitment is going to continue raising questions act how united that front is, and also just how feasible is it to put a stop to this project if germany is not actually onboard? >> yeah, chancellor scolz clearly was trying to avoid that question. mj, what level of support does the white house think it has from germany and other key allies in the event of a russian invasion? >> well, you know, publicly, the
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administration is clearly trying to say that the u.s. and germany are on the same page. you don't get more categorical language than some of the language we heard from the president today. he said things, like germany is completely, totally, and thoroughly reliable. he also said that there is complete trust between the u.s. and germany. but the reason that president biden and other u.s. officials have been so emphatic in trying to stress this point is because germany has been a little bit reluctant in talking about some of the things that they would do if russia were to invade. so, we're talking about questions about sanctions. we are talking about the issue of sending weapons to ukraine, and also, of course, the nord stream 2 pipeline which, as this press conference showed, the u.s. and germany may not exactly be on the same page. and the added complication that i think is worth mentioning, too, is that this is a new chancellor, new leader of germany that biden was meeting with today. right? he doesn't have the same
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relationship with this chancellor that he did with the former-german chancellor, angela merkel. so, he made clear that one big mission that he had in having this bi-lat meeting today was simply to get to know his counterpart better. >> we will see what the results are in the coming days. mj lee, at the white house, following developments there. now, to moscow and our international diplomatic editor, nic robertson. nic, what is the latest from moscow? and what they are saying about the diplomatic efforts? >> you know, i think you get a clue, john, the way both leaders decided to characterize the meetings. putin said that they were businesslike, that they were interesting, that they were use. whereas macron described them as lively and substantial. substantial, they were. they lasted more than five hours. but really, in the press conference afterwards, it seemed to be president putin who was landing most the criticism, and president macron who was not pushing back so hard.
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putin criticized the leaders in ukraine for not following through on the minsk agreement to bring a cease-fire to -- to the region, the pro-russian backed separatists in the east of the country. you know, if you listen to secretary of state antony blinken, today he said look, it is the ukrainian authorities who are doing pretty much everything they are supposed to do over the mi minsk agreement and russia pretty much doing nothing what it is supposed to do over that agreement. so there was a point where macron could have pushed back against president putin. he didn't. president putin criticized nato. said that nato was the aggressor, russia wasn't the aggressor. macron didn't push back on that. um, part of what putin was doing was putting pressure on macron because he is going to kyiv tomorrow to speak with ukrainian leadership. and both leaders said, look, uh, we have got some points of convergence. there are places where we agree. we can take more steps forward. but putin framed it this way, which was a lot more of pressure
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on macron than macron putting pressure on putin. putin said let's see how macron gets on in kyiv tomorrow. what progress he makes on the points that i'm making to see how much more progress we can make going forward. macron was the one stressing the point, it's really important to keep the dialogue going. we owe it to find a peaceful solution, let's keep the talking going. it came out feeling somewhat unbalanced, john. >> any sign that macron, if this goal was to get putin to deescalate, that he made any headway at all? >> you know, no. it was hard to sort of come away with it, that kind of read. they did talk about you know, they used the language here rather than reducing tensions, the language that -- that macron and putin are using is sort of bing -- bring a broad security guarantee or new security dispensation to europe. this is something that gives russia what it wants, and europe gets what it wants.
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um, but on that key point of russia deescalating, which is something putin said he -- rather, macron said he was going to come to moscow to do. that didn't seem to land. look, the talks they had were in private. lasted over five hours. he may have said it behind closed doors. but out in front of the cameras, he did not want to appear to be derailing everything. he wanted to appear as if there was reason to be optimism, reason to keep the process going, rather than -- rather than, um, you know, put putin in a corner which he didn't do, john. >> significant. nic robertson, thank you very much for that. perspective now from two experts on the situation in eastern europe. jill dougherty, former cnn moscow bureau chief and now an adjunct professor at the wall school of foreign service at georgetown. and retired general wesley clark, former nato supreme allied commander. general clark, as you know, u.s. intelligence estimates now say that putin has about 70% of the military personnel and weapons on ukraine's border he would
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need for a full-scale invasion. but u.s. intelligence also indicates that russian officials have doubts about whether or not a full-scale invasion would work. where do you see things standing at this moment? >> i see president putin looking at this as an operation in three phases. the first phase is to build up forces and extract as much discord and as many concessions from nato and ukraine as possible. second phase is, depending on how the first phase works, go in big. use that great-armed forces he has built. he's got incredible weaponry now. he's got things we don't have at our arsenal. we could not stop this if we deployed the u.s. military there the way it's organized. he has got electronic warfare, jamming cyber, he's got a nuke hear weapons capability standing by. he's got the ability to gain air supremacy over ukraine. so, will this -- this could be really ugly and that's what the
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u.s. military, that's what lloyd austin was trying to say. and the third thing is that after he does it, if he does it, he then is prepared to absorb the punches. he has got 650-or-so billion in foreign exchange. he is pretty sure that he could use gas to leverage the europeans. so, you know, he's -- he is riding high. as far as our european allies are concerned, of course they are going to go talk with him because first of all, president macron's in an election campaign. he is going to do the best he can. he knows all this talk from putin about a threat from nato is -- is malarkey. but -- but nobody wants to see ukraine as the beaten zone for russian military action. we don't want to see it. ukrainians don't want to see it. and if it happens, it will be a challenge to pull the sanctions together, and make them lasting and make them very painful because we are dependent on russian energy so it's going to be tough. >> jill, as the general noted,
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there is a whole lot of talking, right? president biden meeting with german chancellor, french president emmanuel macron with vladimir putin. conducting shuttle diplomacy. going to kyiv, now. what do you think will come of all of this? do you think that putin might want some kind of off ramp here? >> you know, i think right now, if you look at the conversation that took place with president macron, i think it's president putin saying keep 'em guessing. keep him guessing. i mean, i looked really carefully at the comments he made and they were really noncommittal. you know, these proposals could be the basis of foundation for something but, quote, it's too early to begin talking about this or about details. so i think president putin now, as usual, has set up the situation. he has, i think general clark described it quite well. but now, he's watching and he is allowing the europeans to run all over europe, come to moscow, go to kyiv.
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but really, the real game for putin is not the europeans. it's the united states. and so, i think if he has -- if he can allow this kind of show of diplomacy and there is a chance that he's still interested in that, uh, to go, then the -- the big game is the united states and what the united states will do. >> one of the things that you do, jill, that is so useful is you monitor russian media and russian television. what are they saying about this? how are they framing this? >> you know, tonight -- and every night is a little different -- i think the -- the thing that worries me is that there is -- there's a really strong feeling that enough is enough. time for negotiations is over. we have been dealing with this -- there are a lot of really strong comments. this is -- i should set the scene -- it's a big discussion group with a lot of people yelling at each other. but essentially, they are talking about politics.
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and several of them were very critical of the united states. the united states, you know, didn't do anything for us at the end of the soviet union. and they are greedy, and now it's time no more talking. we can do what we want. and -- and also, i think rhetorically setting the scene, as president putin said, they are violating the rights of the russian speakers. that could be a justification for russia to go in. there are many ways that they could do this. >> general clark, we have about 30 seconds left. nato supreme ally commander job -- or nato secretary general, i should say, said that nato is considering a longer-term military posture in eastern europe to strengthen deterrence. how would that work? >> i think what you would see is a great number of forces forward deployed. i think the united states would have to relook at its commitments worldwide. might need to put another division back into germany with
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forward deployments into poland or romania or elsewhere. but the important thing is that from this point on, the world is different. the fact that putin has massed these forces is offering these threats to the world, has the military, you can't go back. even if he deescalates, this is a marked change in the way russia relates to the world, and nato has to acknowledge it and take the proper actions. can't have this happening again. >> general wesley clark, jill dougherty, appreciate you both being with us. thank you. up next, we do have breaking news. several states among the first to impose strict covid restrictions made some surprise announcements today that they would soon start relaxing them. which states made the moves, and why? and later, why some voters in florida are claiming they were duped into changing their party affiliation for democrat to republican. our randi kaye has that for us tonight on "360."
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and next tuesday, 65% drop in cases since the peak of a omicron. the pandemics net end is near renewed normal that we will be able to live with code for the long haul? elizabeth cohen, what you make of how fast it happened in what is behind a quick >> a couple of things. >> first of all, crime rates are really dropping in many parts of the country. so high just weeks ago, getting much lower, the other thing that's happening, as one-state sees another state, and the mandates, it gives them permission to do the same thing. and and the cdc says there should be indoor mass mandates, for areas of high transmission, virtually the entire country is in an area of high transmission, the white house spokesperson, jen saki talked
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about this, and it appears the states. and we don't really care they said, we will get rid of them anyhow. >> states that are dropping the mess mandates schools, only children have been vaccinated quick >> this is the interesting thing, if there are high rates of vaccination, you might feel better about taking away mass mandates for schools. with take a look, children aged 5-11, what you see when you look at that, for example in connecticut, 34% of children ages 5-11 are full effect, delaware 23%, and organ 30 person. and not a big first centage, then telling children and teachers to take of mass when most children are not vaccinated. >> interesting, thank you very
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much. another health authority, all for relaxing restrictions at the right time, is that time now? the author of lifelines, a doctors journey, do you agree with the move quick >> i do. >> a time and place, they would be removed this is began, and in this case circumstances have changed, case counts are declining in the sciences changed, we know that vaccines protect very well again smoke omicron, the dominant variant, everyone 5 and over have widespread access to vaccines and we know about one-way masking, even if other people roger not wearing masks, if you worry high quality mask it protects you the wearer. in this case i'm not saying, i
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don't think anybody is saying that no one should ever wear mass, but rather that the responsibility should ship from a government mandate imposed from the state or the local district of the school, it should shift to an individual responsibility by the family who can still decide that their child can wear massive needed. >> take new jersey, case new jersey for instance, the new case averages just over 4000. is that an accident will never do this or are they projecting out to march 7 at this point? >> i don't think we should be looking at case counts at all when we are dealing with a milder variant and when so many people who are exposed to omicron and therefore have at least some level of protection through vaccination or immunity, the key number we should be looking at his hospitalizations. if the icu and the hospitals not particularly region are not overwhelmed and over capacity, we can set a number, 75% or 80%
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full, and restrictions, with the first restriction, should be the restriction on children. while for adults you can say what's the harm of adults masking when they go into a grocery store, there is a harm that we should be discussing of children continuing to mask. it doesn't mean that it doesn't have its place for children, there are high rates of hospitalization and a new variant in the future, children are particularly susceptible to, we might want to bring them back but we should be intellectually honest and say that asking has had a cost especially for the youngest learners, people with english as a second language, children with learning disabilities, there has been a cost to them. the risk-benefit calculation has changed. >> do you think case counts are the right metric to use here? you have to reframe how we think about this going forward. i want to ask, what about the administration, the white house was asked about this today, the
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decision being made in largely democratic states being made to do this in the white house is the cdc's toe recommends masking in schools, is it time for the white house of the federal level to push for change recommendations? >> yes, it is, while we are seeing states and locales take their matters into their own hands, that means the federal government is becoming less and less relevant. of the cdc guidance of their putting out is now not being followed by virtually anyone, that makes the cdc and our federal public authorities, of less credibility, i believe they need to change your guidance, and they don't have to do it overnight, they can say here's an offer after masking, meet these criteria and this is how you can begin to remove mass and other restrictions, but we need to hear the leadership, the cdc has lost a lot of trust and credibility, this is their time to rebuild and remove restrictions as quick the as they were put in>> don't want to drag you into politics.
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and coming to a place, things need to change going forward, they may not have been the right ones, the decision is made,>> steffi lee the former, i don't want anyone to think that now that things are changing, it means that we never should've had mass policies in the first phase. actually the beginning of the pandemic, masking was on the few things that we had, we didn't have vaccines or testing or other treatments, we had masking, masking was really necessary at the time, even last month masking was necessary because we were seeing omicron overwhelm her hospitals, they were at the brink of collapse and we needed it. but just as there was a need then, things of change, we have to have an honest and nuanced conversation that is based in science but also thoughtful.
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the two sides if you will have become more extreme and polarized. the nuance conversation based on thoughtful positions, that is what we need to have at this time. >> we certainly appreciate your willingness to have that thoughtful discussion, you for being with us tonight. how the quest for some white house records is running up against the former presidents preferred method of document destruction, and why some documents were found at what was once dove the winter white house, when we return. no ink! ugh! i need you to print, i need you. you think you're empty? i'm empty. do you suffer from cartridge conniptions? be conniption-free,
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white house documents from the president and his allies has been a difficult task for the january 6 committee, more so with the reports by the washington post and the and cnn that the former president had the habit of ripping up documents and even taking boxes of information from the national archives to mar-a- lago. josh has helped lead the coverage for his paper, particularly documents that ended up in mar-a-lago, what do we know about these records that the archives got back from mar-a-lago? what types and how much is there? because the national archives went to mar-a-lago, the beachfront resort last month to to get 15 boxes of documents that were not turned over to
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them, at the end of the presidency as they should've been. among the items were love letters, and the former presidents words with kim jong- un, the letter that barack obama wrote him when he took over his presidency and other mementos and gives things that should have been turned over after the national archives. the new york times reported as well that there was the famous hurricane sharpie map and those items. what we know about those items is that they were a collection of things of the president deemed personal, the former president, should've been turned over according to the national archives, when he left the white house. >> i did know that you had experts telling you it was much more than usual. and unusually high level of documents that had been turned over, the trumpet administration officials are continuing to search for additional records. what do we know about what might still be missing click >> we don't know a lot, for many months the national archives didn't know that these documents were missing, what
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they started to do was looking for certain documents that were public domain that people told them about and realized we don't have these documents, we need to get them. there were two things that we've learned that were unprecedented. one, the number of materials that went to mar-a-lago with the former president instead of the national archives and number 2, the number of materials turned over to the national archives that were actually damage, ripped up, some of them put back together and some not. but they had a painstaking task with this president, the former president, trying to retrieve documents and put them together that were already turned in order to make sense of the documents because they were ripped. >> hold that thought, normalizing, a former counsel to the democrats, during the first impeachment and a cnn legal asked -- legal analyst. what stands out to you? >> well, that that we need
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another example john, but it is another example of the illegality of former president trump's conduct on a grand scale. the presidential records act, nothing i was responsible for helping enforce when i was working in the white house counsel's office, requires that these documents be preserved, and got to be left in the custody of the national archives, and for goodness sakes, the root of documents, some of which you have been able to put together, is a wholesale violation of the act, too, raises criminal penalties for the destruction of government documents and whether one of the possible criminal referrals that the committee might be looking at is conduct in and around these documents. >> to the best of your knowledge, has there been any attempt by the former president or his team to impede the handover of documents to the
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national archives?>> i'm not aware of any sort of effort to them impede, he took them improperly according to the national archives, his team says it was not nefarious, and he did not view things as things that had to go to the national archives, and the national archives feels differently, not aware of any effort but we have a lot of reporting to do on this, some of the facts of come out, and there's a lot more to know if it's because the reason i'm asking that, this is due ambassador, the national records law opens the like the archives has the archives police force and not as if these laws are typically enforced, it's basically an agreement, a handshake agreement from each white house to abide by the letter of the law, i get their wrists slapped and they tried to comply later on. what would cross the line do you think in this case, that
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would bring some kind of charges? to have the actual intent to destroy and hide?>> you would need that criminal or wrongful intent, but we know that probably these boxes at mar-a- lago are just a violation of the law, how incredible it is to say that, those words about next president, when it comes to the documents that were ripped up and destroyed, that might be more serious because of obstruction of justice prevents a president, any american, from string records that they think may incriminate them in a possible investigation, and we know that some of these materials, according to reporting that have been turned over to congress, were torn up, and something not been able to put back together again, that's where the intent questions become more serious, imagine
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what it's going to be like when there's a hearing and there's some incriminating document, they put it up on the screen and it has been torn and taped back together. that speaks volumes. so we are not jumping to any conclusions but i think some hard looks will be had, with respect to some of those documents about january 6. >> and noticeable in the reporting that the president knew that you were not supposed to destroy documents, this became an issue inside the oval office, the president knew, and continue to do it. normalizing, fantastic analysis, thank you both for being with us tonight. florida democrats raising concerns after some voters claim they were duped into changing their party affiliation from democrat to republican, investigating next. could affect your portfolio, you can act quickly. that's decision tech, only from fidelity. ♪ i see trees of green ♪
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florida's democratic party is demanding an investigation and possible voter registration irregularities, after some people claim they were duped into changing their party affiliation, that you're
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sending it to the secretary of state, senior citizens and a miami-dade public housing conflict unknowingly had their party changed after updating their voter registration, with people working on behalf of the florida republican party. highlighting comments by governor ron desantis last november. >> today for the first time the history of the we have now overtaken democrats, more registered republicans afforded the democrats.>> [ applause ] >> 360s randi kaye has the story.>> they say they will change the party. >> reporter: 77-year-old juan salazar is a democrat, or used to be, someone wearing a bright red baseball cap approached him and switched his party affiliation without his consent.>> you were a lifelong democrat. >> from 1978. >> now all the sudden you're republican? but you don't want to be quick >> i don't want to be. >> reporter: it happened that
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is housing complex in miami, florida, home to elderly low income residents who speak little english, he now believes it was a republican who told him he needed to update his registration. keep in mind in florida, once you register to vote, there is no reason to update the registration unless you want to make a change like your party affiliation. that was not the case with any people we spoke with. >> this is the old card.>> it says right here, democratic party. the new card says republican party. of florida. that is not what you want? figure no, i want to be a democrat. >> reporter: he is not the only one who might've been targeted, miami resident ernesto city lady and a redhead came to his door to register him as a republican, even though he's a democrat. >> now, i asked her, are you a republican and she said yes.>> reporter: he refused to sign the form but he says his sister and brother-in-law, democrats who live elsewhere in miami-
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dade county had their registrations changed after being fooled. >> it doesn't seem like a one- off kind of mistake, it's a concerted effort. >> reporter: the senator is the vice chair of the ethics and elections committee and the florida senate, after receiving a dozen calls from concerned democratic voters, she sent this letter to the florida secretary of state requesting an investigation. >> 10 minutes from where one lives, another woman said her voter registration was change from democrat to republican, she lives here, she didn't want to go on camera but says a woman had on her door and said she needed to update her voter registration because it had expired. the woman's daughter said this these pictures the mother took of the woman she says recently change the voter registration. look closely at the id, are pof, republican party of florida. the woman starters is the mother signed the form and after that someone checked the
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box, can party under party affiliation. in no way her mother could've checked the box on her own. it doesn't >> reading this,>> the registration was change. >> we democratic party. the new card of the right shows is not registered with the republican party of florida. all this could have real consequences, and a primary election, you can only vote for a candidate is aligned with the party you are registered with. >> it seems like they are feeling out the form for them, filling out, because lifelong democrat, they never would've checked republican party of florida. it does raise some very big red flags. speakers are randy is with me now, what does the states republican party have to say about this. >> we reached out to the
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republican party of florida and the executive director told me that the party conducts voter registration in accordance with all applicable laws and regulations, she said they will review any report of concern and election integrity is important and continues to be a priority for the republican party florida but i can tell you there are hundreds of these third-party voter registration organizations throughout the state and it is legal for them to reach out to voters. when it becomes a problem is that they didn't register with the state were filling out the forms with voters instead of having voters do it themselves, or changing party affiliation without the voters consent and it becomes legal, i should also note, all the voters we spoke with have reached out to the board of elections, asking that their party affiliation be changed back to the democratic party, eagerly awaiting the new voter registration cards hoping they will come in real soon, they're looking forward to becoming a member of the democratic party in florida again. >> thank you so much randi
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no shortage of controversy with virginia's new governor, glenn youngkin. between trying to roll back covid prevention measures, to setting up a tip line for parents to tattle on teachers, now the republican is facing heat for a tweet that went out on his campaign's official account saturday. here it is. it attacks a high school student named ethan lynn, a 17-year-old senior in high school. why? for retweeting a report over the weekend from a richmond public radio station about youngkin pote potentially having -- months ago with former virginia governor ralph northam who once had a racist picture surface from his yearbook. writing, here's a picture of
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ethan with a man that had a blackface kkk member in his yearbook. ethan is 17 years old. the tweets ignited a storm of criticism from democrats for attacks on a minor. the youngkin team has since removed the tweet. the governor tried to do damage control earlier posting this, quote, on saturday night an unauthorized tweet came from a campaign account. i regret that this happened and it shouldn't have. i've addressed it with my team. we must work to bring virginians together. there is so much more that unites us than divides us. that wasn't a direct apology to ethan lynn, though, and ethan is not satisfied. we've reached out to youngkin's team for comment and have not heard back. in the meantime, we got ethan's parents' permission to interview him and he joins us tonight. i want to get to governor youngkin's response in a moment. but first, can you tell me, what went through your mind when you saw the governor's campaign put out a tweet that went after you? >> well, john, i was surprised. i could not believe this was real. i never thought we would get to the place where a governor is
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attacking his constituents online. that's something donald trump would do. he promised he would be different than trump and take out and that our politics have become too toxic. so not only do i hope he apologizes, i hope he condemns what happens in a stronger way. >> let me read again what he put out. this is more than 24 hours after the original tweet. he wrote, on saturday night an unauthorized tweet came from my campaign account. i regret that this happened and it shouldn't have. i have addressed it with my team. we must continue to work to bring virginians together. there is so much more that unites us than divides us, unquote. so what do you make of that statement? >> i thought it was a non-apology. he was just sorry that the whole situation happened. he's not actually sorry for what was said. he didn't even take credit that it was his campaign team account. he said it was a campaign account and did not, you know, strongly condemn the situation in any way, shape, or form. >> do you expect to hear from the governor personally? >> i don't know what to -- my
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expectations are on the floor, so i don't know. i have heard nothing from him or his staff since what happened saturday night. so, likely not. >> do you want to hear from him? >> yeah, of course i would like an apology to me and my family. but the only way to stop this is by publicly condemning this type of bullying and rhetoric and politics. the governor should be setting a better example for students like me because he is our state figure that we have to look up to. >> so "the washington post" reports that there may be confusion by youngkin's campaign staff about your age and whether you work officially for the democratic party. what do you make of that? you're 17 years old, which they would have seen on your twitter account. >> right, exactly. first off, in my bio, it literally says high school senior. so regardless of how old i was, you shouldn't be going after anyone in high school. it shouldn't make you long going
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through my tweets, i'm a public school student and i am 17. if you just don't look at my bio. but i've been active in politics from a young age. but whether i'm a democrat or not, active or not, governor youngkin should not be attacking or cyberbullying his constituents online. he promised he would be different as governor, and unfortunately he's been proven wrong by this. >> what age do you think is fair game to go after someone for a politician? >> well, i -- i honestly don't think it should happen that much, especially from an official account of someone, you know, who is a state -- a state-wide official. but certainly, you should never go after a minor. i know that that's the -- that has always been the golden unwritten rule in politics. >> do you think people should save up if they have gripes with what you've been putting online, they should save up until your birthday and tweet about you then? >> they can. i think that would be a waste of time because it's not like i'm going to just disappear. i'm going to continue to call out the governor and be a voice for students.
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>> i guess that's what i'm saying. this is an asymmetrical relationship right now where you can say whatever you want about the governor but at least for now his campaign can't say anything about you. >> right. i think it goes to the point where, you know, you never attack minors on twitter. and also i had just simply shared a public radio report about what happened. that should not have prompted that response of them posting me with the former governor. and mind you, besides him attacking me, a minor, it is completely unprecedented for a governor to attack their immediate predecessor, especially after youngkin had, you know, explained about how good friends he was with governor northam. >> ethan lynn, i wish you a wonderful rest of your school year. >> thank you so much, john. >> thanks for being with us. still to come, a live report from the white house. we'll get the latest from cnn's kaitlan collins on the showdown over ukraine, the diplomatic moves made just today.
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