there is no papering over the breaking news tonight that the federal agency in charge of presidential records say has asked the judge department to investigate the former president's habit of ripping up official documents, and/or squirrelling them away to mar-a-lago.

john berman here in for anderson. we will have more on that shortly. also, the house january 6th select committee subpoenas another highly visible player in the scheme to overturn the election. committee member adam schiff joins us for that. first, though, new information on the making of the censure resolution against two members now serving on the committee, and the genesis of language in it describing what happened at the capitol as, quote, legitimate political discourse. senate republican leader mitch mcconnell, as you know, stands in contrast to that. >> we're here. we are -- we saw what happened. it was a violent insurrection with the purpose of trying to prevent the peaceful transfer of power after a legitimately certified election from one administration to the next. that's what it was. >> so, in the face of that, last night, republican national committee chair ronna mcdaniel put out an op-ed, which quickly

became fodder for talking points including on this program. bottom line, it's our fault, the media. quoting her, if corporate-news meetia wants to know why americans don't trust it anymore, they should look no further than the shameful, outrageous, and patently false coverage. she goes on to say she has repeatedly stated violence is not legitimate mill discourse, and that media outlets who pretend the rnc believes it are acting in bad faith. in other words, believe what she says about the party's position but not the actual words in the party's resolution, which we and others accurately reported. if we got it wrong, well, so did mitch mcconnell. and now, information from a source involved in the broes who tells us those three words -- legitimate political discourse -- were not included in early drafts. instead, representatives cheney and kinzinger were condemned for taking part in a democratic-led persecution of ordinary citizens engaged in nonviolent and legal

political discourse. which invites two interpretations. one is pretty grim, namely that the rnc views this and everything else that day as nonviolent and legal political discourse. more charitable interpretation is that in a hand-fisted way, the resolution's drafters were trying to draw a distinction between the mob you see here, and those who did not invade the capitol. but if that is the case, if this this draft language truly was intended to make that point, however indirectly, then why didn't it end up in the final version? why was it replaced by the legitimate political discourse characterization? now that we are talking, why wasn't there language in the resolution simply saying what mitch mcconnell said? i'm not going to keep you waiting. here's why, of course.

>> the january 6th rally was a protest against a crooked election carried out by unhinged democrats, big tech, and working with the fake news media. all, working together to defeat republicans and your favorite president -- me. the real insurrection took place on election day, november 3rd. >> they just can't quit. so for all that ronna mcdaniel scolds us for failing to hear her repeated condemnations of the violence of the capitol. and a republican lawmaker stands up and wa says what mitch mcconnell says about it, one voice matters more. meantime as we mentioned at the top, a source familiar with the matter tells cnn national archives has asked the justice department to investigate his handling of white house records. the former president, as you know, habitually tore up official documents after reading them. archive officials suspected he might have broken laws on handling government documents including potentially classified

material, and reached out to doj. joining us now, cnn special correspondent, jamie gangel. cnn political analyst and "new york times" washington correspondent, maggie haberman. and cnn chief legal analyst, jeffrey toobin. jeff, i want to start with you on the purely legal matter here. "the post" says that donald trump was warned about tearing up documents by two chiefs of staff, and maybe also the white house counsel. so, could he be in legal jeopardy here? >> well, i think the only way he could be in legal jeopardy is if someone could prove -- if the justice department can prove he was tearing up documents in order to avoid disclosure to a specific investigation. if he just did that as a matter of course, or if he did it just, um, in violation of the presidential records act, that is not a criminal violation. in order to be a criminal violation, you have to look at his intent. and only if his intent was to make sure those documents didn't get into the hands of

investigators, whether it was robert mueller earlier or the -- the congressional investigators later, that's the only way this could be a criminal problem. >> and even if he was warned, specifically, by chiefs of staff and white house counsel? >> yes. i don't think there is any way that could be seen as a criminal matter, unless he was specifically trying to avoid or interfere with or -- or frustrate an actual investigation. >> all right. maggie, i am just seeing "the new york times" has some new report ongoin the documents fout mar-a-lago. what can you tell us? >> john, my colleagues mike schmidt is reporting tonight there is possible classified material that archivists found when they got these, you know, many boxes back from mar-a-lago. they have yet to figure out exactly what it is.

but, you know, this would obviously raise significantly the questions about what trump took, what the purpose of taking it was, what other possible classified material, if any, there might be. again, we don't know specifically what we are -- what we are -- what they think might be classified but it does, you know, heighten the questions around it. that's very different than simply, you know, the original copy of a letter from kim jong un or the copy of a -- the original of a letter from former-president obama. this would be something very different. >> okay. jeffrey toobin, does that raise the legal stakes here? >> i don't really think it does because, you know, presidents have the power to declassify anything they want at any time. i mean, again, this is really bad procedure. it -- it's not the way the government is supposed to work. and by the way, hillary clinton may have lost the 2016 election because donald trump criticized the way she handled classified material on her e-mails. but as a criminal matter, i find

it very hard to believe this is something the justice department would prosecute. >> irony, not always against the law, i suppose, you could say. jamie gangel, in terms of the january 6th committee, um, how much does the destruction of these documents or the tearing up and retaping of them -- how much is it getting in the way of their investigation? or factoring in to what is going on there? >> to jeffrey's part, this is not a surprise to the january 6th committee because, after all, as maggie has been reporting since day one, he's been ripping up papers -- uh -- and did it for four years. so, the committee has known this was going to be a stumbling block. i think that's the reason it's so important that they have all of these interviews with witnesses, with people who worked at the white house, firsthand. some of those people are handing over documents, texts, phone logs, but i -- i think just to go back to jeffrey's point for a moment, i spoke to someone last

night about exactly this issue and the question this person said -- this was a source with knowledge of the investigation -- was he trying to circumvent something when it comes to january 6th? and i think that's a very specific question we should look at. i also think the national archives are really angry that he just did this over and over, again. >> maggie, i want to turn to the january 6th committee and the subpoena for former-president trump's trade adviser peter navarro. who -- he documented his efforts to overturn the 2020 election in his book. place peter navarro in the trump orbit. how important was he? >> sure. let me just really quickly say i appreciate, jamie, the credit on the paper-ripping story but that was my colleague annie and it was one of the best stories of the presidency and i was very jealous of it when she was a competitor and broke it. peter navarro was sort of a jack of all trades around the forler

president, john. you know, he was somebody who, yes, he was trade adviser but he clearly liked running all kinds of other errands for trump. he inserted himself in trying to figure out who the author "anonymous" was, and devoted enormous amount of energy to it. he viewed himself and portrayed himself as one of the, you know, defenders of the president's political movement, and so he was somebody who went out -- it's not clear to me whether trump actually asked him to do this or whether he volunteered to do but he went out and he did all kinds of, you know, quote/unquote, work around the election after november 3rd and before january 6th. and he issued this report -- and i think he held a press conference -- where he talked about its findings. and now -- and he talked about this all in a book. it's not surprising to me that is he is not cooperating with the january 6th committee. um, but navarro one of trump's favorites. >> jamie, peter navarro out and out says that he wanted congress

to -- to stop the certification process on january 6th. he writes it. he says it in interviews whenever he can. what does the committee want to get to him -- get from him? >> i don't think they expect to get anything from him. to maggie's point, what he told cnn was the committee must negotiate his potential appearance. that is not exactly, guys, what day, what time do you want me to show up? but in talking to the committee about people like peter navarro, steve bannon, rudy giuliani, dan scavino, they don't expect them to come. but for the record, they are putting out this that they should come. >> and, jeffrey -- >> if i can just make a point about this, i mean, the idea that peter navarro and mark meadows can write books about their their interactions with donald trump, which they disclose freely and for profit and then

say oh, by the way, in response to a subpoena, i am not going to answer those questions. i mean, it is just outrageous but it is also a matter of the clock ticking. i mean, this is just not time to have a legal fight with these people. steve bannon -- remember, he -- he is actually under indictment but that case is on a slow boat to nowhere. the committee just doesn't have the time or the resources to fo force recalcitrant witnesses to testify at this point. >> thank you, all, very much. so we have more breaking news tonight. it comes from the winter olympics in beijing where the medal ceremony for the figure skating team event is on hold and a gold for russia is in jeopardy. cnn sports analyst, christine brennan, one of the premiere figure-skating reporters on earth, broke this story and joins us now. christine, what on earth is going on with these doping allegations? >> yeah, john, i mean, the russians are living up to their -- their reputation or living down to it.

you know, the lifetime achievement award that is russian doping. and here we are, again. um, as i am reporting, the -- there was a positive-drug test among one positive-drug test among the six members of the russian olympic figure skating team that won the gold medal a couple of days ago and that team competition dominated the competition. so now, everything has been thrown into disarray and chaos. the question, of course, is if, in fact, the russians would be disqualified for this positive drug test by one member of their team, the u.s. was second, japan was third, canada was fourlgt. logical thought would be russians would be disqualified. the u.s. would move up to gold-medal position, which would be, by itself, a big story. then, as you know, john, you have covered olympic games. we worked together on the games. the next step is the rest of the competition. the men's, the women's, the pairs, the dance. so all those skaters on the russian team will continue to compete in their own individual events, casting doubt about

literally everything moving forward in the last week and a half of these games. >> even the one athlete who tested positive? >> well, i mean, the question would be would that athlete name some places -- we are not going to name the name right now -- would that athlete be able to compete or not snt? um one would expect that athlete would be tossed out of the olympics. we are dealing with russia which has had nine lives in terms of coming back to the olympics. they shouldn't even be here because of previous doping violations but they keep getting a chance to come back. you know, their hands get slapped and then they show up again, when they should not be here at all because of state-sponsored doping, very different than like a lance armstrong that was not state sponsored. so there is the question moving forward, russia, you got the international olympic committee, you have got the international skating union. people want to see all these skaters, these russian skaters compete. they need the tv ratings throw it all into the mix and it is a big mess. >> right. and potential to get even bigger

because, again, we are not naming who it is. we don't know who it is. but there are huge name skaters on that russian team, and it could have a major impact on the games going forward. this substance that we are talking about here -- if i am saying that correctly, what did it even do? >> it fights fatigue. it is something that is used as a stimulant. it can actually help -- um, talking to a source about these issues just a few minutes ago, john -- it could help with red blood cell -- getting a chance to have more blood cells, which makes you feel better. which makes if you are tired, you can compete better. a version of one of these drugs was used by the soviets' soldiers in afghanistan to stay awake. and to just be on top of trying to feel better, and on top of their game, so to speak. maria sharapova, the great tennis star did test positive for a similar drug and was

banned from tennis for a while. and again, it is the notion of the drug is supposed to treat heart problems and angina. we're talking about young skaters at the top of their game, and physically so fit. why in the world would they be taking -- this one person taking a drug that treats angina? >> you are going to hear excuses, it doesn't make you bigger, faster, stronger. but a lot of performance-enhancing drug are about making it possible for you to train longer and harder over longer stretches. christine brennan, thank you very much for being with us tonight. i expect we are going to hear more from you in the coming hours. >> thank you, john. next, the january 6th committee member, adam schiff, joins us to talk about the document news. and also, new subpoenas. and later, could scenes like these in canada be coming to the united states just in time for the super bowl? we will tell you about a new warning out just moments ago from federal authorities. that, plus a look at who the

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whether it's the possibility the justice department will investigate the former president for destroying or sequestering official documents, "the new york times" reporting on potentially chasfied documents being involved. there is plenty to talk about with my next guest. california democratic congressman adam schiff. chairman of the house intelligence committee, and member of the january 6th select committee. and author of "midnight in washington, how we almost lost our democracy and still could." congressman, i want your take on the fact that the national archives is asking the justice department to investigate the former president's handling of these white house records. do you think there's any possible criminal exposure, particularly if there were any classified documents he took to mar-a-lago as "the new york times" is reporting toent? tonight? >> well, first of all, think

they are absolutely right to make the referral to the justice department because there is public reporting and the archives may know more than this, that the president was repeatedly warned that he couldn't destroy these documents, that he would be violating the law if he did so. and so, it looks very willful and if there is evidence of potential willfulness in the destruction of documents, if any case is going to be prosecuted, might be prosecuted. now, there is not much precedent for vigorous enforcement of this provision, so i wouldn't want to lead to the conclusion that that is going to happen. but if it would happen, it is a case like this, where it appears to be a willful decision. and -- and the classified allegation is much more serious, in my view. that is, that donald trump brought to mar-a-lago, in an unsecure location, in boxes that others may have access to, classified information if that

allegation proves correct. the justice department, in my view, will have to investigate. um, it would be, i think, intolerable for the department to have investigated hillary clinton over handling of classified e-mails and ignore allegations that donald trump may have brought classified documents, um, and violated classification by bringing them to mar-a-lago. um, so beside the jaw-dropping, heart-stopping, grab you by the throat hypocrisy of it, i think the -- the justice department, um, would have to look at those allegations very seriously, and investigate them. if, in fact, there are reasons to believe there are materials among those boxes. >> has the january 6th committee, have you received all relevant documents at this point? is there anything missing? >> no, we haven't received all the relevant documents.

certainly, the archives is beefing up their -- their staffing on this task, which we need them to do because there is a real urgency here. the court, all the way up to the supreme court, have ruled in our favor. um, but while we have received several tranches of documents, there are more documents to be produced and the same process has to be followed. that is, the archives notifies the current president, notifies the former president, if the former president objects, then there is a -- a litigation process. now, i think that process will be even more expedited than the first time and the first time it went up to the court -- the supreme court -- very quickly. but -- but no, we expect to get many, many more documents from the archives. >> i want to ask you about peter navarro. he put out a statement which reads in part, as the domestic terrorists running the january 6th partisan witch hunt are well aware, president trump has invoked executive privilege, and it is not knot my privilege to waive. end quote.

so what is your response, obviously, to that -- that defiant, absurd statement there? and how far is the committee willing to go to get him to talk? >> you know, that kind of statement is really worthy, i guess, of the former president which he is modeling himself after. the kind of alice in wonderland. know the people who viciously attacked police officers and the capitol -- they are not domestic terrorists. it's the people who are investigating them who are. so, you know, it -- it's certainly true to form of someone who, by his own admission, um, was creating a plan to overturn the election. a plan, which he claims the president -- the former president supported. if he is willing to talk about it in interviews, if he is willing to write in this book, he should be willing to come and talk to our committee about it. and -- and it's difficult i think for him to maintain, as it was for mark meadows, the things he can freely talk to the press in his book are somehow covered by privilege, preventing him from testifying to congress.

>> rudy giuliani, the former president's attorney, asked a michigan prosecutor to give voting machines to trump's team in the weeks after the election. so, is that something your committee is investigating or wants to investigate? >> we are certainly investigating the whole constellation of issues around efforts to, you know, attain voting machines, either by the campaign or by the trump administration. to me, this is one of the most shocking revelations are these public reports. at this point, i can only refer to the public reports. that there were multiple efforts to persuade the president to either use the military or the justice department or department of homeland security or some other government agency to seize the voting machines of state and local jurisdictions. that's the kind of thing you see in the third world. um, you don't expect to see that in what we would hope would be the best democracy in the world. but it's real tin-pot dictator

kind of stuff. and if these allegations prove to be correct, that you have someone who was a very top adviser to the president, who is integ integrally involved in this. you know, it's another line of responsibility going very high in the trump hierarchy in one of these very important lines of effort to overturn the election. >> congressman adam schiff, appreciate you being with us tonight. thank you. >> thank you. so more blue states announced plans to drop mask mandates in schools or businesses but the cdc is saying it may be too soon. we are going to talk it over with dr. sanjay gupta and leana wen next. and we have also got breaking details on the death of comic, bob saget. welcomed bath fitter into their homes? it just fits. call now or visit bathfitter.com to book your free consultation. (vo) what makes my heart beat? having everything i want in the place i love.

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tonight, more states are dropping mask mandates. massachusetts, illinois, and rhode island announced plans today to begin rolling back these mandates. also new york which will keep masks in schools for now, while relaxing restrictions at indoor businesses starting tomorrow. meantime, cdc is facing pressure from governors to issue new guidance on masks. and that's coming soon but for now, the cdc director has this message. >> our hospitalizations are still high. our death rates are still high. so, as we work towards that and as we are encouraged by the current trends, we are not there yet.

>> hospitalizations are down 21% from a week ago with just more than 100,000 people currently hospitalized. daekt deaths are down bmore tha 2% but still high. cl nn medical analyst, dr. lien, former baltimore health commissioner and author of lifelines, a doctor's journey in the fight for public health. and cnn chief medical correspondent, dr. sanjay gupta, author of "world war c, lessons from the covid-19 pandemic and how to prepare for the next one." sanjay, this is the first time you have been with us since go governors started announcing plans to live these mandates. what do you think especially since dr. walensky says we are not there yet? >> there is a lot of virus out there still. that is the thing. you and i have you can talked about this a lot. the idea of thinking about this like the weather. it is still raining a lot of virus out there. part of those cdc projections, they still think over the next four weeks, 60,000 more people could die. i mean, these are still just tragic numbers. at the same time, the numbers are coming down and we know omicron is not as -- not as

deadly. doesn't make people as sick as these previous variants. let me show you, quickly, john, oregon. these -- this is one of the states where they are talking about rolling back these mask mandates at some point soon. you can see if you -- if you see, you know, previously what happened, sort of midfuldle of e of last year, they lifted mandates and, you know, pretty soon after that, the -- the delta surge and sort of straight up, the numbers went and they reinstated mandates at some point around masks. this was a -- the hospitalizations that -- that went up at that point. and you can see the hospitalizations are still high. again, they are coming down. it's tough. it is a tough call. they are trying to sort of anticipate what things are gonna look like over the next several days and weeks, and we know there's been a lot of changes. the metric i keep coming back to is hospitalizations. hospitals are still pretty full and if you start reducing, you know, some of these mitigation measures at this point, you do run the risk of -- of keeping those hospitalization level too

high. >> dr. wen, when jen psaki was asked by cnn today who parents and teachers should listen to, their governors or the cdc? she said the white house advises americans to follow the cdc guidelines, which of course still calls for indoor masking in school. so, what are parents supposed to do? >> right. it's extreme ly confusing. first of all, i think the cdc really needs to do a lot better here. no one is expecting cdc to say overnight, everything is safe, go take off your mask. people want a roadmap. it would be great if they can lay out metrics, for example, as sanjay was saying if hospitalizations fall below a certain number. that's when mask mandates can start coming off. laying out that kind of roadmap is just common sense as to what parents should do, assuming that their school is going to be allowing masks to be optional, i would advise them to think about three things. one is what is the medical circumstance of their household? two, is the value of going maskless for that family.

and the third is what about is there -- is there an alternative that they -- that they have? how do they view this risk of contracting covid? and so, specifically, if a family is fully vaccinated, the child is vaccinated, everybody else is boosted, it would be reasonable to say let's really think about do we need masking in schools? do we really value not contracting covid, versus somebody else who has vulnerable family members, that child should be wearing a high-quality mask in school because we know that one-way masking works very well to protect against covid even if others are not masking, too. >> so, sanjay, the new york governor, kathy hochul, wants to wait to lift mask mandates in schools until after the february break. she wants parents to have home tests, and will be asked to test their child twice. is that a safe way to approach this? >> you know, i think this is one of those other -- these -- another one of the measures that we're talking about. i think testing does make a big difference here, and you know i have said many times i think it's the original sin that we've not had enough vision on exactly, you know, the data.

being able to really quantify this problem. so, you know, she says, at that point, after i guess the break, being able to do two tests and determine at that point whether or not they are going to lift mandates. we are probably going to see a different sort of position by that point, overall, in that -- in that community, as well. the cases may come down even further and as leana is saying, as long as there is a specific benchmark in terms of hospitalizations, i think that is key. hospitalizations right now, still higher than they were during delta. so it's going to continue to come down but still a bit of an issue right now. >> we have a bit of breaking news, sanjay, and it has to do with bob saget. his family put out a statement saying authorities determined he passed away from head trauma. the statement saider authorities concluded he accidentally hit the back of his head on something, thought nothing of it, and went to sleep. he was staying at a hotel in orlando when he died. i know you weren't involved in the investigation but as a neurosurgeon, what do you think when you hear that? >> it -- it's just sad. i mean, that's the first thing i

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here. but it's -- it's pretty tragic but it can happen just -- just the way that i described. >> you have to take head injuries so seriously. sanjay, thank you very much. dr. leana wen, i appreciate you being with us tonight as always. just ahead, we have more breaking news on the canadian-trucker blockade. what the department of homehand security in the u.s. is now saying about those kind of protests happening here and the major events it could potentially disrupt. also, donie o'sullivan in the canadian capital talking to the protestors about why they are dead set against vaccine mandates. migraine attacks? qulipta™ can help prevent migraine attacks. it can't prevent triggers, like stress or changes in weather. you can't prevent what's going on outside, that's why qulipta™ helps what's going on inside. qulipta™ is a pill. gets right to work to prevent migraine attacks and keeps them away over time. qulipta™ blocks cgrp a protein believed to be

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more breaking news. this on the canadian trucker blockade protesting vaccine mandates. department of homeland security is telling law enforcement authorities it's receiving reports that a similar kind of convoy could, soon, begin in the u.s. and could potentially try to disrupt the super bowl, state of the union address, and more. donie o'sullivan at the center of the protest in the canadian capital of ottawa. >> i want all these mandates gone, and i am not leaving until all the mandates are gone. >> reporter: what is the stuff that you can't do right now as -- as a nonvaccinated person? >> i live in quebec, so it is a

bit more intense than other places in canada. but look, i can't go skiing, i can't go to walmart. i can't go to home depot. i can't go to restaurants. i can't go to bars. i can't go to the gym. >> truckers here in canada have brought part of the country's capital to a standstill right outside the national parliament. >> i was hired on at a job, not too long ago, for a transport company out of ontario. and i was let go due to not willing to get the vaccines for my job, and i mean that's not right for companies to be able to decide that. and take away our right to earn money and support our livelihood. >> reporter: now, this is all happening despite these protestors representing a small minority of canadians. more than 80% of eligible canadians are fully vaccinated and the canadian trucking alliance, the primary advocacy group for canadian truckers, which has condemned these protests, has said about 85% of canadian truckers who regularly

cross the u.s. border are vaccinated. why is it important for you to be here today? >> well, because -- >> sorry. >> because like -- >> don't talk to them. it is fake news. >> reporter: but despite the fact that these may be part of a minority in canada, they are receiving a lot of support from conservatives and other right-wing figures in the united states. >> we are now aware of a significant element from the united states that have been involved in the funding, the organizing, and the demonstrating. >> the canadian truckers are heroes. they are patriots, and they are marching for your freedom and for my freedom. >> reporter: this is very much a 21st-century protest. playing out as much on the internet, as it is on the street. viral memes and sometimes false and highly offensive historical comparisons that circulate online are being repeated verbatim here, like this. because you are not vaccinated, have you -- is there businesses, is there stuff you can't do in canada now? >> yeah, i'm like -- well basically, if you want to

compare canada to anything, it's like hitler's germany and we're like the jews. one of the goals is to simply is to get a group of people that you can get angry with and this case it's the unvaccinated. >> reporter: there is a lot of people here streaming live online. >> i am just going to follow you guys and make sure you tell the truth. >> good. >> reporter: documenting every moment on social media. >> take those cans off of that truck! is that your property? >> reporter: in an effort to clear the protestors, police have begun confiscating gas canisters, resulting in encounters like this, that clock up thousands of views online. >> my name is jim kerr. how do you feel? hi my name's jim kerr and i care about human beings, especially ones that are trying to keep themselves warm in a truck while fighting for freedoms of canadians. how do you feel? >> the main problem i have is all the censorship that is going on.

that's the main problem i have. there is censorship everywhere, yeah. people's accounts get taken down. even facebook, if you don't say the right thing. even this convoy, people are even live-streaming and all the sudden, i heard yesterday in the restaurant my feed was cut. my feed was cut. >> facebook shut down some groups on its platform supporting the truckers after the online outlet grid news found they were being administered by a hacked account that had belonged to a woman in missouri. so, whoever was really running the groups wanted to hide their identity and gofundme shut down a fundraiser for the truckers. but organizers here have still been able to raise millions of dollars through an alternative service, a self-described christian fundraising platform. organizers say the money will help keep the truckers on the street. [ speaking foreign language ]

>> we want those great canadian truckers to know that we are with them all the way. >> reporter: trump indicating he is supportive of truckers descending on washington, d.c. other american right-wing figures goading their audiences to act. the question is how long before protests, like this, come here? >> will we need our own trucker rally to end all this insanity once and for all? >> what is the main goal, the main objective of the truckers here? >> freedom. >> and just into us, department of homeland security in the u.s. is warning law enforcement that truckers might start protesting in the u.s. our colleague geneva sanz attaining this. it read in part, while there are no indications of planned violence, if hundreds of trucks converge in a major metropolitan

city, the potential exists to severely disrupt transportation, federal government, and emergency services, through gridlock and potential counterprotests. so john, as you heard there, you heard how right-wing personalities, both on television and online, are calling for these sort of demonstrations in the u.s. the dhs, tonight, out with a warning. and i should just mention, john, as -- as we said in this piece. look, there is enough trucks here to -- to bring downtown ottawa to a standstill. this part of the city here. but it -- they are a minority. 80% -- 8-0 percent of canadians are fully vaccinated. >> doesn't take a lot. donie o'sullivan, thank you so much for being this. in a moment, the family attorney of amir locke, benjamin crump, on no knock warrants, the shooting death of a 22-year-old m black man the police weren't even looking for.

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protesters in minneapolis have been demanding justice for amir locke, a 22-year-old black man killed after police entered an apartment using a no-knock warrant. last night we told you about the arrest of locke's 17-year-old cousin wanted in connection to a

murder. he was one of the people police were looking for when they entered the apartment. body cam video indicate the police entered the apartment calling commands. they found locke under a blanket on a couch. family and friends say amir was an innocent victim. i spoke with family attorney benjamin crump earlier tonight. mr. crump, thanks so much for joining us. i want to first start off with the locke family. how are they doing tonight? >> well, they're still devastated. they can't believe that their son was killed while he was sleeping on the couch. >> that's a lot to take for any family, it goes without saying, counselor. the 17-year-old cousin of amir locke, who prompted the police raid in the first place, has now been arrested according to law enforcement officials. what are you able to tell us about where that stands tonight? >> well, we don't know anything about where that stands, but we

do know that amir locke should not be killed because of something that a relative did. when you really think about it, he was sent to death when they executed that no-knock warrant by something that was done by somebody else. that is why these no-knock warrants are so dangerous, because you don't give innocent people an opportunity to know who's breaking into their home. >> so as you know, the city of minneapolis updated their no-knock policy in 2020, indicating that officers would be required to announce their presence and purpose for entry except in instances like hostage situations or imminent threats. in your view, was this one of those instances? >> absolutely not. and when you think about the

fact that they execute these no-knock warrants disproportionately against black and brown people, it further raises alarm to me and other civil rights advocates that you must do away with these no-knock warrants if you're going to do them only against marginalized people of color. when breonna taylor was killed, they did a study of how the no-knock warrants were being issued in the previous two years, and they found out that 82% of the no-knock warrants executed in louisville, kentucky, were against african americans. 68% of the time, they found absolutely nothing after they busted into black people's homes. >> just to be clear, was amir locke listed on the warrant itself that law enforcement had? >> amir locke was not listed on the warrant that the police had to do the no-knock search.

he was an innocent young man sleeping on the couch, who woke up to these people yelling and screaming, and he did what any reasonable, law-abiding citizen who was licensed to carry a gun would have done, and that's reach for his weapon to protect himself and his castle. >> you're talking about the gun. he was licensed for that gun. he did legally possess it? >> he did so. and black people have a right to the second amendment. >> so, councilselor, you represented george floyd's family. and now the minneapolis police department is once again under scrutiny. what needs to be done to prevent situations like this going forward? >> the minneapolis police department and the city of minneapolis, just as many cities in america, have to have policies that don't violate the constitutional right of black people against excessive force. what we believe killed george

floyd just as much as derek chauvin's knee on his neck was the fact that they had a policy that allowed police officers to choke black people and use excessive force against them. and we believe in amir locke, what killed him just as much as the bullets from the police officer's gun was this flagrant policy of no-knock warrants that allowed them to violate the fourth amendment rights of marginalized people of color whenever they chose to do so. and we have to say that the constitution applies to every american, even black and brown americans. >> ben crump, i appreciate your time tonight. thank you very much. >> thank you so much, john. >> and we'll be right back. ade. not all plastic is the same. we're carefully designing our bottles to be 100% recyclable, including the caps. they're collected and separated from other plastics, so they can be turned back into material

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