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hours later. have a good night, my friend. thank you. >> see you in a few hours. >> that's right. i am laura coates. and this is "cnn tonight." we have breaking news tonight on the unexpected death of comedian and actor bob saget. his family has just shared the final conclusions from authorities on what caused saget's sudden passing, and we'll share that with you ahead. we also have big breaking news from "the new york times." the paper is reporting that the national archives has discovered what it believed was classified information in documents donald trump had taken with him from the white house as he left office and has consulted now with the justice department about their very discovery. now, according to "the times," the doj told the national archives to have its inspector general examine the matter, and frankly it's not clear what might have transpired since then. as you know, mishandling classified materials is a big deal, and donald trump should
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know because he made it the centerpiece of his campaign against hillary clinton and her handling of emails and prompting all the "lock her up" chants that we all remember so well. they apparently discovered the information at mar-a-lago after the former president returned 15 boxes of documents to the government just last month. "the washington post" is also reporting that the archives asked the doj to investigate trump's handling of white house records. so of course the question is does this put the ex-president in any criminal legal jeopardy? here was the house intelligence committee chairman, adam schiff, his take on cnn just moments ago. >> it looks very willful, and if there's evidence of potential willfulness in the destruction of documents, that is the kind of case that if any case is going to be prosecuted, might be prosecuted. >> to be continued, it seems. and meanwhile, president biden has been in office for over a
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year now, and yet we're still learning new details about just how far some were actually willing to go to try to interfere with, let alone overturn, a free and fair election. and tonight yet another revelation, and this one has to do with one of the central figures of the coup attempt, rudy giuliani. now, "the washington post" reports that trump's former lawyer along with some others actually called a prosecutor in michigan in the days after the election and asked him to seize voting machines and give those voting machines to the trump team. now, i want you to think about that for a second. he wanted the actual voting machines, not the tally. he wanted the machines. now, remember this is antrim county, michigan. and why is this county important, you ask? well, frankly, remember this is the county that made a mistake.
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the republican county initially had biden with a 3,000-vote lead on election night. but they later saw there was an error in their count and that it wasn't biden who had won by more than 3,000 votes. it was actually donald trump who won by more than 3,000 votes, and they corrected the error and quickly to reflect that trump, in fact, did win there. and they realized it on their own apparently. translation, the system worked to reflect the truth and correct the error. but despite that, this county became the poster child for trump and company to try to suggest that widespread fraud was all across the country, and examples like this mistake were so rampant as to justify their endeavors. now, the antrim county prosecutor, james rossiter, told "the post" that he declined the request to hand over the voting machines, saying, he, quote,
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never expected in my life i'd get a call like that. well, similar calls have happened in other places like georgia, i believe. and as for giuliani, well, he also declined to comment to "the washington post." but will he do the same with the january 6th committee because they certainly have a lot more now to ask him about. now, that panel was apparently supposed to meet with giuliani just yesterday, but we're not sure what happened, and apparently it's being rescheduled. so why does this matter? well, frankly, it's not just the rehashing of things you may have known or trying to figure out ways to find the connective tissue. it's the anatomy of the big lie and the apparent catalyst for what you are seeing on your screens right now. what you saw on january 6th, that violent insurrection. and make no mistake, it was a violent insurrection, not -- what was the phrase that was used? legitimate political discourse.
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that's how the rnc describe the it as in a resolution last week when they were censuring gop congress persons cheney and kinzinger for their roles on the january 6th committee. you know who else says this was a violent insurrection? well, the senate's top republican, who happened to once press his colleagues to oppose a bill to create an insurrection commission. you guessed it, mitch mcconnell. >> it was a violent insurrection for the purpose of trying to prevent the peaceful transfer of power after a legitimately certified election. >> now, you can kind of tell maybe from the body language or otherwise that mitch mcconnell, he wants this whole mess within his party over how to define and talk about january 6th to go away. frankly, i'm sure republicans want nothing more than to be able to capitalize on what they perceive as the shortcomings of
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the biden administration. and there is room for fair criticism of the biden administration, and i'm sure they want to talk about those issues. but instead, they're facing a kind of circular firing squad that the former president obama thought was happening when biden was vying for the dnc nomination. remember that? and mcconnell realizes that the midterm elections, they're coming. i mean nine months ago just yesterday, they'll be here. and the more the capitol attack is, well, downplayed and they're wrestling with how to define it, well, it could very well undermine the republican effort to reclaim congress and the majority. and meanwhile, that divide shows you what's happening in the house. you see gop leader kevin mccarthy. let's just assume and give the benefit of the doubt that he is racing not to get away from a reporter, but he has someplace very important to be although he appears to be initially running away from questions about the rnc's use of the words -- what was it again -- legitimate
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political discourse. and then, well, defending it. now he's saying that he actually agrees with mitch mcconnell that the attack was a violent insurrection. but also today, he's saying the committee had a right to do their resolution just how they wanted. so while mcconnell and mccarthy are worried about the perspective political consequences of a divided gop in the upcoming midterms, well, they should keep an eye on the movement growing in a place like north carolina, to have a political consequence felt, well, right now. there's an attempt right now to block the republican congressman madison cawthorn from being able to even run for re-election over his role in january 6th. in a court filing, the state's elections board says it has the power to disqualify the congressman from even running because days before the attack, the congressman said it was, quote, time to fight.
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and he spoke, if you recall, at the stop the steal rally that deadly day. >> wow, this crowd has some fight in it. and at 12:00 today, we will be contesting the election. our constitution was violated! my friends, i want you to chant with me so loud that the cowards in washington, d.c. that i serve with can hear you. >> well, someone's been listening, and it's, well, in north carolina. now, cawthorn, he has denied any wrongdoing. he's even filed a federal lawsuit just last week to try to shut down this challenge. we have a key player of that effort. our first guest is a former north carolina supreme court justice who's representing the voters who are now challenging cawthorn's legitimacy. bob orr joins me now. bob, good to see you. thank you for being here. >> my pleasure. thanks for having me. >> i got to tell you, first of all, my mom is from north carolina, so i see you're from god's country as she would say.
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we'll bypass that for a moment and get right into the meat of the matter here because i think many people look at this and say how is this possible? how would you be able to prevent him from running for re-election? it all comes around the 14th amendment. explain why. >> well, that's exactly right. it's actually the constitution of the united states that disqualifies madison cawthorn from being a candidate for office in 2022. north carolina has a challenge statute in which voters in the district in which the individual files, in this case the 13th congressional district, filed this challenge saying they have reasonable suspicion that cawthorn is disqualified based upon the 14th amendment, section 3. and so there is a process in place in the statutes in which we can both undergo discovery and depose mr. cawthorn, but also present our case to an election boards panel with the
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burden on him to actually show that he is qualified. >> now, that's fascinating. first i remember if people recalling the last impeachment, recall this same section was being used as perhaps the undercurrent as to why to impeach an outgoing president, to prevent re-election under the same premise and theory. but the idea of who has the burden here might surprise people. so you're saying that he, himself, would have to prove that he actually is entitled to still be on the ballot. what's behind that notion, and what would he have to essentially show contrastingly to what you would have to prove when you bring this case? >> well, the state board of elections serves as a clearinghouse for anybody who purportedly wants to run for public office. and so there are a number of disqualifying procedures or aspects both in the united states constitution and in the north carolina constitution, and
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so it's incumbent upon the state board when that challenge or question is raised to have a process to weed out people who are simply disqualified from public office and therefore not clutter the ballot with anybody and everybody who thinks they ought to be elected to some office. >> now, he does think that he ought to remain in office not just because he wants to be a part of it. of course, his attorney has come out pretty forcefully on this issue, and he said, the undemocratic scheme contained in the north carolina challenge provisions supplants voters for state bureaucrats who will determine who can represent the people. this is fundamentally anti-democratic and contemporary to the public interest. of course i note you must and necessarily disagree on this notion, but what do you say to the criticism that suggests this is just a tactic the democrats are using? you don't like him. you don't want him to be in office. you're pointing to january 6th as a pretextual reason.
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what do you say to that notion to have a retort? >> first of all, it's the constitution that we're seeking to enforce, and it's important to note that after the voters filed this challenge under the north carolina statute, cawthorn's attorneys went into federal court in the eastern district of north carolina and filed a lawsuit seeking to stop the challenge procedure from going forward. and just this past week, the legal team representing the voters sought to intervene in the federal court proceeding and the state board of elections represented by the attorney general's office in north carolina filed their response in opposition to cawthorn's efforts to try and stop what is a very fundamental process under the laws of north carolina. >> the operative words here, of course, this is rooted in the constitution. i do wonder, bob, to what extent this might create a blueprint
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for others who are challenging on similar premises because, of course, this is all about the constitution. but as you know, i'm sure he's not going to go down without a fight absolutely. we'll stick with this story. bob orr, thank you so much. >> my pleasure. well, there is breaking news on bob saget's cause of death. the beloved comedian suffering head trauma apparently before going to sleep. and the question so many people are asking is how -- how could this happen? america's doctor, sanjay gupta, has the answers next. two milld bath fitter into their homes? it just fits. bath fitter. call now or visit bathfitter.com to book your free consultation.
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head on something, thought nothing of it, and went to sleep. no drugs or alcohol were involved. i want to bring in our chief doctor and neurosurgeon, sanjay gupta. i'm so glad that you're here to help break this down because first of all, he's a beloved comedian as you know. >> yeah. >> but people also are very fearful and afraid of what this could possibly mean. how likely is this that it could occur to other people and how could this happen? >> it's so sad, laura, certainly what has happened here. >> yes. >> you know, i think what may have happened is he may have had a significant blow to the head. sometimes, you know, in the hotel room, on the headboard of the bed or in the bathtub or something, if you have a significant blow, you may develop some, at the time, what is sort of slow bleeding, not significant bleeding right away, but the blood starts to accumulate over time. if he was in bed, went to sleep, he may have lost consciousness,
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and that blood continued to accumulate, ultimately leading to his death. this is called a subdural hematoma. i don't want people to immediately get frightened that every time they hit their head, this sort of thing is going to happen. if you look at that image, that slow bleeding may accumulate on top of the brain. the brain, because it's encased in bone, it has nowhere to go. as a result, that can lead to pressure on the brain stem and ultimately take someone's life. that's typically what happens in these situations. that's what's called an acute subdural hematoma, something that happens suddenly. we don't know for sure exactly what occurred here. we know he had bruising, it sounds like, on the back of his head. you read the report just now. that's what the examiners have sort of concluded. that's sometimes the sort of process that takes place there. but again, laura, just so sad in a situation like this. he was alone, so there wasn't someone who could check in on him as well, you know, are you
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doing okay? are you feeling confused? are you nauseated? do you have worsening headache, all those sorts of things. >> of course he went to sleep afterwards. maybe he thought he was okay. it does break your heart to think about it. all of us travel or thinking about your husband traveling and that last phone call and maybe they mentioned it on the phone, and you thought kind of nothing of it. we just don't know. but i think about the way, and maybe it's the lawyer in me thinking it this way, sanjay. how do you sort of work backwards then from that? if you're looking at the way in which you conclude how the death may have occurred, would there have been something visible, say, on the head? would there have been sort of an outward bump of some kind, or are you saying because the way a hemorrhage could work, it would really be almost inwards-projecting? >> first of all, in terms of the actual conclusions of the medical examiners, there may have been bruising on the back of the head. they may have done a -- you know, an autopsy that actually, you know, concluded this, actually finding this blood
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collection. they may have combined that with evidence, like you said, of a phone call. yeah, i hit my head earlier, it was pretty bad, but i think i'm going to be okay, and putting all that together. in terms of the image there, yes, you wouldn't -- that bleeding is all on the inside. again, you may see some bruising on the outside, on the skin. but all that bleeding i'm showing there is under the skull, on top of the brain. so that wouldn't be visible immediately. again, somebody may think, hey, look, i hit my head pretty hard there, but i feel okay. that's a message, you know, to people. if you've had a significant blow to the head, if you have a headache and the headache's worsening, if you're developing confusion, if you have nausea and vomiting, if you're slurring your speech, if you're on blood thinners, that's another indication that you're more likely to develop a bleed like this. older people, laura, because their brains are shrunk a little bit more, they have more room to have this blood sort of accumulate on top of this brain.
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he was 65. that's not old. but as you get older, your brain does start to shrink a bit. these are things we have in the back of our minds in terms of likelihood of someone developing this sort of a problem. it's unusual in that he was by himself. he was in a hotel. there was nobody to witness exactly what happened, so they had to sort of piece together. >> i know we are speculating on some parts of this. we know the statement, and we're thinking about it. but you were the perfect person to ask these sort of questions with, dr. sanjay gupta, because i think for so many, we're all sort of in that world of web m.d. and trying to diagnose. i know that must drive you crazy, and people come in and say, i've actually googled this. and you probably think, actually, let me tell you what this this is. for those people out there right now, it feels very scary for me and everyone hearing about this. what do you look for? you mentioned the idea of slurred speech. you mentioned the idea of feeling confusion. is there a certain window of time? i know if you have a stroke,
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there's sort of read the signs and there's a window of opportunity. blood thinners are supposed to be provided in some way to give you a chance for survival. is there a window in which you need to get to the hospital if you're feeling this way? >> yeah. i mean the thing about this is these types of -- these bleeds, which are on top of the brain typically, if that's what he suffered from, which it sounds like, if you get to the hospital quickly within, you know -- with stroke, it's really within three hours. with this sort of thing, you have to think about getting there as quickly as you can as well. if you can take the pressure off of the brain simply by removing some bone, removing this blood collection, take that pressure off the brain as quickly as possible, you greatly increase the chances of survival. i mean it's just as simple as that. basically it's a pressure issue at that point. again, the brain has nowhere to go because it's encased by bone. so, you know, i think the message is, again, i don't want to frighten people. people do bump their heads all the time, and it turns out to be nothing. but if it's a severe blow to the
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head, if you have some of these symptoms, worsening headache, confusion, nausea, vomiting, slurring of speech, anything else that's just unusual like that, if you're on blood thinners and especially if you're an older person, those really do increase your chance of developing something like this. again, it's not common. i don't want to unnecessarily frighten people. but those are some indicators, some clues that you should get this checked out. sometimes it will just be a neurological exam in the emergency room. sometimes you'll need a ct scan, but there are ways to quickly diagnose this and quickly do something about it if this is the problem. >> thank you, sanjay. again, as you mentioned, this is not common but should be taken very seriously if it does happen. it's just overwhelmingly sad to think this was the end of his life in that way. thank you, sanjay. up next, more blue states announcing plans to drop mask mandates in schools and also businesses. but the cdc, well, they're still
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so, look, now more blue states are joining the bandwagon and easing covid restrictions as all cases are seeming to drop across the country. you've got massachusetts and new york and rhode island and
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illinois all joined other states today in lifting mask mandates either in schools or indoor public spaces entirely. it now puts them frankly in conflict with the biden administration's guidance, which still calls for masking indoors, and that's regardless of vaccination status. cdc director defended the agency stance today. >> we are working on that guidance. we are working on, you know, following the trends for the moment. what i will say, though, is, you know, our hospitalizations are still high. our death rates are still high. so as we work towards that and as we are encouraged by the current trends, we are not there yet. >> so, look, who are we supposed to listen to? is it the cdc? is it our governors? what's the deal? i want to bring in a practicing internist, dr. lucy mcbride, to help me understand a little bit more about who we should be listening to. dr. lucy mcbride, thank you for being here. i appreciate it. >> thanks, laura, for having me.
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>> you know, obviously there's confusion. we've heard for months now there's been tension about the messaging. now we have messaging issues for a very different reason. i have to ask what should people be following? obviously politics has a way of seeping into all these discussions, but when the average person is figuring out to mask or not to mask, that is the question, who are they listening to for the answers? >> it's a great question, and i think for two years, people have been starved for clear, transparently communicated facts and data and a framework within which they can make complex decisions to protect themselves, their families, and their communities. i'm a primary care doctor. i don't know everything, but i do know a few things about helping people manage risk. managing their risk for severe outcomes from covid-19, managing their risk for depression, anxiety, diabetes, dementia, heart disease. at this moment in the pandemic, laura, where we have been
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blessed with incredibly effective and safe vaccines that take the fangs and claws away from the virus and turn it into a more manageable disease, where we have more widely available oral antiviral medications to help our highest risk population patients be at lower risk for severe consequences, and where we have abundant data showing exactly who is at highest risk for severe outcomes, it's really time to, number one, think about who you trust, and for a lot of people, it's their primary care doctor if they're fortunate to have one. and, number two, to think about shifting the responsibility of protecting you in your classroom, for example, from the government to your own personal risk tolerance. at this moment, it's appropriate to think about unmasking kids in schools when they face the lowest risk for poor outcomes from covid and are right now subjected to the strictest
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measures. >> well, you know, i of course have two children who are in elementary school, so this is an issue that's top of mind in our households and neighborhoods across the country. we know and we heard -- i think a lot of us are comparing what we were told then versus now and sort of making educated guesses based on what we're hearing and filtering. but there's still that notion of the under 5 population still has not been vaccinated and you do see the rates of people being infected even when they're vaccinated. i agree, of course, you do have the embarrassment of three riches in the form of vaccines. so how do people go about assessing what their risk tolerance is? am i being an irresponsible parent if i don't have a mask on my kid even if they're vaccinated? is there peer pressure of society or the schools? how do i go about assessing my own views of risk? >> right. it's really, really complicated. this is what i spend time doing with my patients every day is so rt of marrying the broad public health advice with evidence, and
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then the patient's unique medical vulnerabilities. let me say this. so i hear people who have kids under 5 who are unvaccinated. those kids have not yet had the benefit of the vaccine. at the same time, the under 5-year-olds are generally at very low risk for poor outcomes. the under 6 month kids are at a little bit higher risk, but those kids can be protected if they're lucky enough to be breastfed by antibodies transferred from the mother through breast milk. for people who are worried about whether their child is going to spread to teachers, for example, because we all want to care for our communities, i would remind people that the data are clear that kids tend to spread the virus less than adults. kids have been assumed to be these vectors of disease when actually they transmit the virus less. and then when they've been vaccinated, while the vaccine doesn't eliminate the risk of transmission, it reduces it somewhat. moreover, we don't have good, clear, real-world evidence that
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masking kids in schools has a meaningful effect on transmission of the virus. and so when you have an intervention like a mask, it's not appropriate to mandate it when the benefits aren't clear and the harms are non-zero. i'm not anti-mask. i recommend masks to my patients. before we had vaccines, i recommended masks, you know, in 2020. it's just that the conditions have changed, and now it's time to really think hard about the data and take fear out of the driver's seat and put the facts in the driver's seat with the help of your primary care d doctor, if you're lucky enough to have one. >> that's a big contingency, right? really quick here, so if you believe that about masks and not being necessarily essential in the same way, is that mean you necessarily must require vaccines, then? >> i think there's a lot more
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nuance than what would appear in the public square. i think vaccines are extraordinarily safe and effective. i recommend vaccines to my patients, particularly my high-risk patients. but remember masks were supposed to be temporary measures until we got vaccines, and now we have them. and now we have declining case and hospitalization rates and we have widespread availability of vaccines and oral therapeutics. so it's a different time. it's 2022, and it's time to really, really think about lifting restrictions and put the responsibility into the individual's hands. >> well, many individual governors are saying that same thing. we'll see what happens. dr. lucy mcbride, thank you so much. >> thanks. commissioner roger goodell now admitting today that the nfl is falling short on hiring minority coaches, says captain obvious. he's not vowing, though, to take a hard look at whether policies need to change, but is it enough? we'll discuss next.
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listen, we're days away from the super bowl, but instead of talking about the big game, the nfl commissioner roger goodell today addressed accusations of
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racial hiring discrimination. listen. >> well, they are getting into the room, and they're getting the interviews. in fact, they're exceeding anything in the rooney rules as far as the interviews. it's the what we want to try to see is the outcomes, right? we want to see black head coaches in the nfl, and people of color. >> his comments come in the wake of a class action lawsuit by former coach brian flores, who is alleging discrimination against black head coaches and executives. here's the facts about the league's hiring. currently about 70% of nfl players are black, yet the league has only two black head coaches. and between 2012 and 2021, nfl teams hired 82 white head coaches and general managers as opposed to only 17 head coaches and managers of color. that's nearly, for those doing the math, five times more.
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and look at the offensive and defensive coordinators. well, the pattern is still there as well. 168 white hires versus only 51 people of color over a ten-year period. let's discuss now with ba mani jones. he's the host of the right time with bomani jones podcast. good to see you. how are you doing? >> i'm doing all right. how about you? >> i'm good although those figures are quite disturbing when you think about the overall league in and of itself. and you heard goodell say they're investigating into the matter and that the rooney rule is getting interviews, but they want it to actually translate to something. isn't the problem that the rooney rule more and more about having to have at least diverse coaches be interviewed, that it really is phoning it in when it's already a preconceived or determined conclusion? >> well, the thing i always say about the rooney rule is that when it was initially implemented, i think you can look at the numbers in the hires that took place at the time and see it was actually pretty
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effective. at this point, it feels like teams are more concerned with circumventing it than honoring the spirit of the rule itself. but i'm always very cautious about blaming the rule because the problem is, in fact, the people, right? like the thought behind the rooney rule in part is honestly this thing where we're just so insistent upon making sure we don't treat any white person like they're doing something wrong. so the idea is, oh, this hiring before, you just didn't know who the people were. but if we put those people in front of you, we'll see what it is. >> when you look at this, of course, spoken almost like a true lawyer in that sense. it's not the rule, it's the people who are doing the wrong thing in following the rule. how does an investigation change this? how do you look at the issue if you're goodell and people who are looking at goodell, wanting to actually believe there could be the spirit of the rule actually enforced? where do you go? is it satisfactory to say that there's not the answers yet, but they're looking for them? >> no, no. you're going to have to go to
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court. that's the thing about flores. >> are you a lawyer? hold on. are you a lawyer after all? i heard go to court now. >> i just have a basic understanding that all progress on race in this country typically involves having to take somebody to court. you'll note that the hires that we saw that took place after brian flores decided to put this paperwork in, it seemed like somebody happened to be listening, at the very least in houston. the expectation that people are going to come around and be like, wow, we've been triptripp that's not going to happen. >> it is one of our favorite pastimes, really litigation. the idea of how this goes down in terms of those court filings in particular, you know, there has been pushback on these issues and not just in the nfl, really across corporate america and the like that people are averse or are calling this things like playing the race card or that people, if you're firing someone for a legitimate
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reason, they will say, well, if that person is a person of color, they're afraid that they're going to be labeled a racist in that sense. do you buy into that, or is there a way to navigate around that and actually recognize that there are often pretextual reasons? >> no, that's just a damn lie. the questions they're fielding right now about whether or not that institution is racist, and that's from not hiring people. just think about this for a second. if your thought process going in is i would hire that dude, but if we fire him, then they are going to call us racist, why are you going into this thinking about firing the person that you just hired? that should be the most optimistic day in the world. so when people are saying that, they're walking in with a level of skepticism that you don't think that they would ever express when dealing with the other candidates. that's just -- i mean, i couldn't believe that was actually printed as though it was something that you should consider because that's such an obvious and transparent lie. >> well, it is. let's see what actually comes of this class action lawsuit as
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arguing it will strip protections from lgbtq children, and will lead to more bullying, and suicides within an already-marginalized community. now, whz president biden is even weighing in here calling the ledge shagz quote, hateful. now, of course, parents should have a say in what their kids are being taught. i know when it comes to my own children, i would like someone to try to stop me from at least weighing in on their education. but making it illegal for educators to discuss sexual orientation, gender identity, and actually encouraging parents to sue if they do? how is that okay? i mean, why is one sexual orientation or gender identity or the discussion of it the new voldermort? i thought we saw that figurative movie of discrimination, we didn't like it, and we progressed. maybe i'm wrong. but proponents of the law say that discussing the reality of sexual orientation, and gender
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identity hurts children. you know what's hurting children most? being constantly thrust into the middle of america's culture wars' battlefield. the white house puts it this way. make no mistake. this is not an isolated action. across the country, we are seeing republican leaders take actions to regulate what students can or cannot read, what they can or cannot learn, and most troubling, who they can or cannot be. sin cynically treating our students as pawns in a game. pawns. do you agree? well, if they are, indeed, pawns, as they suggest, then frankly, i am afraid to even guess what is really the endgame? and yet, all over the country, the gamesmanship of culture wars are enveloping our schools, whether it's the hysteria over critical-race theory, teaching about race or racism in american
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history. alabama approved resolution that actually bans the teaching of so-called divisive concepts, associated with critical-race theory. as if children need to be shielded from learning about inequality. or as if critical-race theory was ever actually a part of any elementary school's curriculum. i believe the course you might be referring to only has one word, history. now, virginia's new governor actually set up a tip line for parents to tattle on teachers who engage in any quote inherently divisive teaching practices, like crt. there is anti-critical-race theory bill in the west virginia house now, too. and according to an education week tally, since january of 2021, do you realize 37 states have introduced bills or taken other steps that restrict teaching critical-race theory?
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governor, it is entirely inappropriate for teachers and school administrators to have conversations with students about their gender identity. more than 100 anti-transgender bills were introduced last year, all across the country. and many more this year. what kind of message does that send our youth? look, i'm old enough and i am young enough to remember that we wanted our classrooms to be a marketplace of ideas, where curriculum was not a synonym for indoctrination. where ideas were tested and philosophies, challenged. opinions, were to be formed, not assigned. look. read fiction. but teach the truth. or it won't just be our kids you hurt, it will be all of our future. i rest my case.
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